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Tezcatlipoca 09-11-2003 22:37

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scotsbraveheart
does anybody have any idea what the elo stands for on the stats screen when you play this live?? :shrug:

Quote:

Originally Posted by XiceWolf
Apparantly its some kind of rating system that is used in chess to determine skill. It was posted on bxb but that may not be accurate.

I've just had a look for the message at BritXBox about this, but can't find it.

But, from what I can remember:

Yep, it's based on some chess ranking system. If you beat someone higher up in the ranking than you, you score a lot more than beating someone below you. So if anyone preys on newbies, it won't get them any higher in the rankings.

Tezcatlipoca 09-11-2003 22:38

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XiceWolf
ye man get it tommorow, every night you are missing out big style !! I just spent about 2 hours in a 12 player game and it kicks ass. Smoke is my friend in this game :D

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna get it tomorrow (if I get back from work in time before GAME shuts!)

I've just emailed the monkeys at Tesco & cancelled my order.

Boom 10-11-2003 12:50

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Things I hate about RS3:

[rant]
1. Where's the rate of fire selection for the automatic weapons? You can only simulate single-shot or burst by how quick you pull the trigger.
2. Where's the choice of weapon add-ons like sound-suppressors, larger ammo clips, and mini scopes? You get what you're given with the weapon. Complete *****e.
3. The single-player levels are more confined and more restrictive in the order of completing objectives.
4. The enemy AI on Elite is complete *****e, can't imagine how bad it is on Veteran or Recruit.
5. Where the h3ll is the prone position?
6. Team members don't die, there just incapacitated and up and ready to fight in the next mission no problem.
7. Explosive barrels? How unimaginative is that?
8. Defuse mp mission? Where?
[/rant]

Things I like about RS3 over the PC version:
1. Shadows are good and accurate weapon modelling in the shadow.
2. Dieter Webber sounds like Arnold.
3. Sounds are excellent.
4. Rag-doll physics are improved.
5. No stealth missions (although can be fun sometimes, it can be a pain on Elite on PC).

There might be other things I like and hate about the game, but that about somes it up. This game is dumbed down in the extreme from its PC counter-part. While the online mp game is fun it still suffers from the limitations mentioned. The developers made this game to be like a CS style of gameplay (though movement is still more restrictive in RS3) and, although it might appeal to a wider audience, CS will beat this hands-down. I expect the RS6 series to be a more realistic type of game, not to move towards a more arcade feel.

I think I'm going back to Ravenshield on PC, despite all its patches and occasional server problems and I eagerly await a cheat-free CS on Xbox.

NEONKNIGHT 10-11-2003 17:36

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
I still like RS6. Sure, it's got some problems with it (AI could be better, voice commands sometimes don't work as they should) but overall I'm impressed. IMO a top FPS for Xbox.

zoombini 11-11-2003 12:00

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom
Things I hate about RS3:

4. The enemy AI on Elite is complete *****e, can't imagine how bad it is on Veteran or Recruit.
5. Where the h3ll is the prone position?
6. Team members don't die, there just incapacitated and up and ready to fight in the next mission no problem.
8. Defuse mp mission? Where?

4. The enemy AI is shi!te? how come, they are little buggers & pop up when you least expect them. Can you expand some more on your opinion of them?

5. That I miss too.
6. And how the heck would you play more games if your team got killed off.
You only have a few to go through.
8. Apparently that is going to be a downloadable update as it was not ready when the game was launched (sourced from someone who emailed UBI about it).

Boom 11-11-2003 12:16

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zoombini
4. The enemy AI is shi!te? how come, they are little buggers & pop up when you least expect them. Can you expand some more on your opinion of them?

5. That I miss too.
6. And how the heck would you play more games if your team got killed off.
You only have a few to go through.
8. Apparently that is going to be a downloadable update as it was not ready when the game was launched (sourced from someone who emailed UBI about it).

4. They don't respond and co-ordinate their actions as a team like they do in Ravenshield. They just come out into the open and stand there like pylons when another terror is shot (though sometimes they do take cover when rushing). Other terrors around corners have just shot straight into the wall. In Ravenshield, they will come from multiple directions (once again the confinement of the Xbox version of the game comes into play) and try to pin you down, while another team moves in to try to finish you off.

6. Your team, in EVERY other Rainbow game, has comprised more than just 4 members and each member has different characteristics, thus making it possible for subsequent missions more difficult to complete if you choose to finish a mission with dead teammates. Thus there is an emphasis on beating the missions with your team intact instead of them coming back from the dead in a storyline that takes place over a number of days.

8. Dumb, very dumb. The only reason I can see them including HH and Defuse at a later date is so that they can soften the blow that CS will make in early December. All game types should have been included from the start.

Caspar 11-11-2003 17:38

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Win yourself a copy here! ;)

Caspar 11-11-2003 17:42

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
I think the big question is "Is it better than GR:IT?"...I think yes on so many levels...although, like Boom...I played Ravensheild on the PC to death...and get confused sometimes how things are different :( esp the map positions..same textures....but the buildings [that we know] are all different! :confused:

I'd play this before GR:IT any day...and will make a comparison to CS when it comes out....but tbh..I never really clicked with CS :confused:

Boom 12-11-2003 07:14

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Caspar
I think the big question is "Is it better than GR:IT?"...I think yes on so many levels...although, like Boom...I played Ravensheild on the PC to death...and get confused sometimes how things are different :( esp the map positions..same textures....but the buildings [that we know] are all different! :confused:

I'd play this before GR:IT any day...and will make a comparison to CS when it comes out....but tbh..I never really clicked with CS :confused:

It's better than GRIT, but I still enjoy the slow, calculating style of GRIT and it was added to when it came to XBL with voice. It actually improved when it came to XBL.

Rainbow series is obviously a different style of play from the GR series. GR is about large open maps and distanced combat. Rainbow has always been about close quarters combat in urban/industrial environments. Both game series though had a sense of realism, but Ravenshield on PC was the best of the series to date. The Xbox version of Ravenshield has strayed away from that realism and moved more towards CS.

Not that's entirely bad, but the developers must be aware of the fact that CS dominates that area on PC and will most likely pull the same trick on XBL. It's not that I prefer one gamestyle over another, I just prefer them to be more distinct as then it's less of a choice between them.

As I said, I eagerly await a cheat-free CS on XBox.

Ste Riley 12-11-2003 11:23

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Caspar
but tbh..I never really clicked with CS :confused:

BURN HIM!!

Might have something to do with you getting your arsed kicked on it all the time :PP:

Caspar 12-11-2003 12:26

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SteRiley
BURN HIM!!

Might have something to do with you getting your arsed kicked on it all the time :PP:

yeah, but you're the main one I played...and u're the dog's bites when it comes to CS!!!...no wonder I didn't enjoy you kicking my arse!!!! :p :(


CS/Xbox - things will be different my man! :D

Ricky G 17-11-2003 14:01

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Got this over the weekend and it rocks! I was worried it would be too much like Ghost Recon which was a little slow for my liking. With RS6 you can be cautious and reckless at the same time. Slower but faster. Fr or some reason, even though the plot is completely different I can't help but get the feeling I used to get playing Goldeneye on the N64. There are so many 1st person shooters out there and with the exception of Halo they've all been pretty bad (and that includes Soldier of Fortune 2 as well as Ghost Recon) Even RTCW lost its appeal after a couple of hours. But this just seems so real especially with your orders being barked at you through the headset. Alovely touch for a lovely game and I hope to see you online soon.

NEONKNIGHT 17-11-2003 17:53

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky G
Got this over the weekend and it rocks! I was worried it would be too much like Ghost Recon which was a little slow for my liking. With RS6 you can be cautious and reckless at the same time. Slower but faster. Fr or some reason, even though the plot is completely different I can't help but get the feeling I used to get playing Goldeneye on the N64. There are so many 1st person shooters out there and with the exception of Halo they've all been pretty bad (and that includes Soldier of Fortune 2 as well as Ghost Recon) Even RTCW lost its appeal after a couple of hours. But this just seems so real especially with your orders being barked at you through the headset. Alovely touch for a lovely game and I hope to see you online soon.

Yep! totally agree with your 'Goldeneye on the N64 feeling' about this game, now that you mention it. Good analogy that!

:)

zoombini 18-11-2003 11:44

Re: Rainbow Six 3
 
With GR I tend to hang back a lot & wait for the enemy to come to me, with this I am attacking more, mainly due to the lack of decent safe points. Most areas can be penetrated from several directions.
Clever.


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