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thenry 15-11-2024 16:28

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186079)
I guess her new boss didn't check her CV

It's a shame Claude Littner is a conservative :LOL:

Itshim 15-11-2024 19:18

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186065)
Chancellor Caught Changing LinkedIn CV After ‘Economist’ Myth Exposed


fibbing on her CV who'd a thunk it
https://order-order.com/2024/11/15/c...-myth-exposed/

My guess is uncle starmer knew this all along, :rolleyes:

jonbxx 18-11-2024 09:45

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186065)
Chancellor Caught Changing LinkedIn CV After ‘Economist’ Myth Exposed


fibbing on her CV who'd a thunk it
https://order-order.com/2024/11/15/c...-myth-exposed/

Textbook Guido there. They seem to ignore where she worked before for HBOS for some reason I can’t possibly fathom, so let’s help out. From 2000 to 2006 she worked at the Bank of England. Her roles were working in the International Economic Analysis Division (2000-2002) as Second Secretary in the Economics Division at the British Embassy in Washington (2002-2003) and the Structural Analysis Division (2004-2006)

papa smurf 18-11-2024 09:54

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36186200)
Textbook Guido there. They seem to ignore where she worked before for HBOS for some reason I can’t possibly fathom, so let’s help out. From 2000 to 2006 she worked at the Bank of England. Her roles were working in the International Economic Analysis Division (2000-2002) as Second Secretary in the Economics Division at the British Embassy in Washington (2002-2003) and the Structural Analysis Division (2004-2006)

i hear she was heavily involved in the ordering of office supplies

nomadking 18-11-2024 11:19

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Fraud Act 2006
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In each case:
  • the defendant's conduct must be dishonest;
  • his/her intention must be to make a gain; or cause a loss or the risk of a loss to another.
  • No gain or loss needs actually to have been made.
  • The maximum sentence is 10 years' imprisonment.
Fraud by false representation (Section 2)

The defendant:
  • made a false representation
  • dishonestly
  • knowing that the representation was or might be untrue or misleading
  • with intent to make a gain for himself or another, to cause loss to another or to expose another to risk of loss.


thenry 18-11-2024 11:39

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How comes you geniuses have figured this out and yet there's no mention of it on SkyNews, or similar?

papa smurf 18-11-2024 12:42

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Ive just updated my old CV from working for VM to owning it ;)

1andrew1 18-11-2024 14:41

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36186206)
How comes you geniuses have figured this out and yet there's no mention of it on SkyNews, or similar?

It was all over the media at the weekend.

thenry 18-11-2024 15:01

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36186215)
It was all over the media at the weekend.

Was it a storm in a teacup? I'm generally aware of breaking news. I've only become aware of this on here in this thread :confused:

papa smurf 18-11-2024 15:06

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36186221)
Was it a storm in a teacup? I'm generally aware of breaking news. I've only become aware of this on here in this thread :confused:

just google [rachael reeves cv ] and be amazed

thenry 18-11-2024 15:28

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186224)
just google [rachael reeves cv ] and be amazed

I did. I failed to find SkyNews. Yournews. Everyonesnews. Except my news so it felt a little storm in a tea cup like.

Hugh 18-11-2024 16:02

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I did. I failed to find SkyNews. Yournews. Everyonesnews. Except my news so it felt a little storm in a tea cup like.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1731945747

thenry 18-11-2024 16:05

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Yes I saw some results. I'm just questioning it's severity because not everyone is following up on the news that never broke the internet.

Itshim 18-11-2024 17:54

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186201)
i hear she was heavily involved in the ordering of office supplies

:clap::clap::clap:

1andrew1 18-11-2024 19:15

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36186230)
Yes I saw some results. I'm just questioning it's severity because not everyone is following up on the news that never broke the internet.

Much ado about nothing seems to have been the over arching reaction.

papa smurf 18-11-2024 19:57

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36186234)
Much ado about nothing seems to have been the over arching reaction.

she's incharge of the nations finances,people have a right to react.

any hoo if the government need staples or A4 paper ordering she's your girl

thenry 18-11-2024 20:22

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Who's reacting?

Paul 19-11-2024 03:18

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36186236)
Who's reacting?

You are.
If its so insignificant to you, move on.

Russ 25-11-2024 18:48

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186235)
she's incharge of the nations finances,people have a right to react.

And people also have the right to think “a politician who lies…who’d have thought it?”

Itshim 25-11-2024 18:55

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186536)
And people also have the right to think “a politician who lies…who’d have thought it?”

How many years does it take people to learn all politicians lie :erm it just depends on how much it hurts you :D if it's important or not. Ie Boris and his parties, don't care, Reed and what she did before entering politics, is for me it's more concerning :mad:

Russ 25-11-2024 19:12

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186538)
How many years does it take people to learn all politicians lie :erm it just depends on how much it hurts you :D if it's important or not. Ie Boris and his parties, don't care, Reed and what she did before entering politics, is for me it's more concerning :mad:

Spot on, all politicians do lie. I mean if someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about “all guidance was followed” regarding lockdown while the likes of us couldn’t even attend funerals of loved ones, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about there being no parties in Downing Street during restrictions, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about not being told directly about Chris Pincher, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about the NHS getting £350m a week from Brexit, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about there being no cross-border checks after Brexit, fair enough. All whilst he was Prime Minister.

But no, let’s just focus on what the current Chancellor said about what happened before she was in office (all the while overlooking Boris’ shining record of lying before he was PM).

papa smurf 25-11-2024 19:21

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186541)
Spot on, all politicians do lie. I mean if someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about “all guidance was followed” regarding lockdown while the likes of us couldn’t even attend funerals of loved ones, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about there being no parties in Downing Street during restrictions, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about not being told directly about Chris Pincher, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about the NHS getting £350m a week from Brexit, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about there being no cross-border checks after Brexit, fair enough. All whilst he was Prime Minister.

But no, let’s just focus on what the current Chancellor said about what happened before she was in office (all the while overlooking Boris’ shining record of lying before he was PM).

All i can think about is that song from Frozen

let it go let it go

Russ 25-11-2024 19:32

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Yeah for certain people who lost loved ones during those times, it’s not that easy to “let it go”.

Chris 25-11-2024 19:59

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186543)
All i can think about is that song from Frozen

let it go let it go

A song in which someone is showing the first signs of getting drunk on power, and eventually comes close to destroying everything.

Appropriate.

Pierre 25-11-2024 21:08

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36186546)
A song in which someone is showing the first signs of getting drunk on power, and eventually comes close to destroying everything.

Appropriate.

I see you take your Disney seriously.

papa smurf 25-11-2024 21:12

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36186552)
I see you take your Disney seriously.

Totally ruined it for me :(
i'm going back to elmer fudd , kill the wabbit - kill the wabbit

Chris 25-11-2024 21:32

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36186552)
I see you take your Disney seriously.

House full of teenage daughters and a film studies graduate for a wife. I have little choice :disturbd:

Paul 26-11-2024 03:18

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186541)
Spot on, all politicians do lie. I mean if someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about “all guidance was followed” regarding lockdown while the likes of us couldn’t even attend funerals of loved ones, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about there being no parties in Downing Street during restrictions, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about not being told directly about Chris Pincher, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about the NHS getting £350m a week from Brexit, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about there being no cross-border checks after Brexit, fair enough. All whilst he was Prime Minister.

:zzz:

You dont like Boris, I think we worked that one out years ago. :sleep:

Russ 26-11-2024 08:21

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Damn right I don’t, you’ll ban me on the spot if I said what I really think of him on here. Because of him I couldn’t attend a funeral while he and his mates were enjoying parties together. I also can’t stand the hypocrisy of people keeping silent about his lies but pulling up other Parties up whenever they screw up. If people want to have double standard then fine, just be honest about it.

Pierre 26-11-2024 09:34

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186541)
Spot on, all politicians do lie. I mean if someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about “all guidance was followed” regarding lockdown while the likes of us couldn’t even attend funerals of loved ones, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about there being no parties in Downing Street during restrictions, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about not being told directly about Chris Pincher, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about the NHS getting £350m a week from Brexit, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about there being no cross-border checks after Brexit, fair enough. All whilst he was Prime Minister.

I don't care anymore, he was removed from office and he hasn't been in office for two years. He has no bearing on the future

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But no, let’s just focus on what the current Chancellor said about what happened before she was in office (all the while overlooking Boris’ shining record of lying before he was PM).
She is in office and what she does, and says does, have a bearing on the future.

Boris may still have a big part to play in your life, but I would wager most of the country has moved on.

Russ 26-11-2024 09:48

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The rest of the country is free to think what they like, I’m not trying to speak for them.

What she says and does may or may not have a bearing on the future, the point I’m making is I don’t recall the same noises from the same people when the last government was lying from day to day.

Taf 26-11-2024 12:39

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A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

Pierre 26-11-2024 17:00

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36186577)
A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

you're telling me, Fillet Steak at the pub used to be around £25, £32 presently.

Itshim 26-11-2024 17:26

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186541)
Spot on, all politicians do lie. I mean if someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about “all guidance was followed” regarding lockdown while the likes of us couldn’t even attend funerals of loved ones, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about there being no parties in Downing Street during restrictions, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about not being told directly about Chris Pincher, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about the NHS getting £350m a week from Brexit, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about there being no cross-border checks after Brexit, fair enough. All whilst he was Prime Minister.

But no, let’s just focus on what the current Chancellor said about what happened before she was in office (all the while overlooking Boris’ shining record of lying before he was PM).

What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.:cool:

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36186577)
A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

Don't think labour has grasped this.and definitely Richard hasn't :D

nomadking 26-11-2024 18:00

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36186577)
A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

If each stage in a chain has their costs increased by NI, then those links add up. Eg 0.2% increase in costs in one stage, might not look too bad, but after 5 of those stages you get a 1% increase by the last stage

Hugh 26-11-2024 18:12

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186588)
What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.:cool:

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Don't think labour has grasped this.and definitely Richard hasn't :D

Not everyone is solipsistic…

papa smurf 26-11-2024 18:19

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36186594)
Not everyone is solipsistic…

no most people are just selfish barstewards :)

Itshim 26-11-2024 18:50

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36186594)
Not everyone is solipsistic…

Really , love your faith in mankind. Clearly charity's have not got the right mailing lists:rolleyes:

Hugh 26-11-2024 19:06

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36186594)
Not everyone is solipsistic…

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186595)
no most people are just selfish barstewards :)

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186596)
Really , love your faith in mankind. Clearly charity's have not got the right mailing lists:rolleyes:

Probably says more about you than others…

mrmistoffelees 26-11-2024 19:54

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36186587)
you're telling me, Fillet Steak at the pub used to be around £25, £32 presently.

Depends on weight dry or wet aged etc

For a 7oz dry aged ex dairy fillet iirc last time I had one I paid about £36 not including sauces and sides

Russ 26-11-2024 20:06

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186588)
What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.:cool:

So a proven liar who lied before he took power and continued to lie while PM didn't bother you at all, yet someone who doesn't actually have the power to change anything (all Chancellor decisions need to be signed off by the PM) says one thing and that worries you more?

I mean, if you just admitted you have double standards when it comes to political parties, that would be something.

Reeves has already said Labour won't put up any taxes for the remainder of this term. That's something to set your yardstick by. If she goes back on that then yes, you'll be heading in the right direction.

Pierre 26-11-2024 20:31

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36186599)
Depends on weight dry or wet aged etc

For a 7oz dry aged ex dairy fillet iirc last time I had one I paid about £36 not including sauces and sides

Too much.

I’ve had to downgrade to Rib Eye / Rump, which is ok, if cooked right with sauce …still good.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186601)
So a proven liar who lied before he took power and continued to lie while PM didn't bother you at all, yet someone who doesn't actually have the power to change anything (all Chancellor decisions need to be signed off by the PM) says one thing and that worries you more?

I mean, if you just admitted you have double standards when it comes to political parties, that would be something.

Reeves has already said Labour won't put up any taxes for the remainder of this term. That's something to set your yardstick by. If she goes back on that then yes, you'll be heading in the right direction.

Jesus………..

I think we’ve heard it….all before………many times……….we get it………….you don’t like Boris…………or double standards………WE KNOW….

Taf 26-11-2024 20:36

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36186592)
If each stage in a chain has their costs increased by NI, then those links add up. Eg 0.2% increase in costs in one stage, might not look too bad, but after 5 of those stages you get a 1% increase by the last stage

And, of course, it's not just the increases of employer NI behind it.

Do not forget that whilst households have had a bit of insulation from rising power prices, most of industry has not. And then there is the government edict that employers increase their wages to at least The Minimum Wage. And fuel costs.

It all "trickles down" to consumers in the end, to make them poorer, not richer.

But at least HMG profits from it all by higher VAT, NI and Income Tax receipts. :rolleyes:

mrmistoffelees 26-11-2024 20:42

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36186605)
Too much.

I’ve had to downgrade to Rib Eye / Rump, which is ok, if cooked right with sauce …still good.

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Jesus………..

I think we’ve heard it….all before………many times……….we get it………….you don’t like Boris…………or double standards………WE KNOW….

Rump I’m not such a fan of but a decent rib eye done right is a cracking steak as is plank

GrimUpNorth 26-11-2024 21:50

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186588)
What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.:cool:

Except the actions of Boris and his elk brought about the downfall of the last government which has resulted in something you feel does effect you. Cause and effect, ironic isn't it.

Russ 26-11-2024 23:05

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Boris had an elk?

Is this another scandal we’ve yet to hear about?

Hugh 26-11-2024 23:58

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186618)
Boris had an elk?

Is this another scandal we’ve yet to hear about?

Well, he’s had quite a few stag nights (at least three*, so far…)

*Carrie’s about halfway through his first marriage** duration, so she must be getting a bit concerned around now…

** ‘when a man marries his mistress, he creates a vacancy' - Sir James Goldsmith

Itshim 27-11-2024 17:49

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186601)
So a proven liar who lied before he took power and continued to lie while PM didn't bother you at all, yet someone who doesn't actually have the power to change anything (all Chancellor decisions need to be signed off by the PM) says one thing and that worries you more?

I mean, if you just admitted you have double standards when it comes to political parties, that would be something.

Reeves has already said Labour won't put up any taxes for the remainder of this term. That's something to set your yardstick by. If she goes back on that then yes, you'll be heading in the right direction.

Do you or anyone else what her qualifications really are. Seems to me that she is making a lot of changes to taxes, that do businesses no favours at the end of the day it them and only them will create the wealth needed. Of cause All parties have double standards

papa smurf 27-11-2024 18:00

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186666)
Do you or anyone else what her qualifications really are. Seems to me that she is making a lot of changes to taxes, that do businesses no favours at the end of the day it them and only them will create the wealth needed. Of cause All parties have double standards

We know she worked in customer complaints,and the party is getting plenty of them

Russ 27-11-2024 18:02

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186666)
Do you or anyone else what her qualifications really are. Seems to me that she is making a lot of changes to taxes, that do businesses no favours at the end of the day it them and only them will create the wealth needed. Of cause All parties have double standards

It’s not the Parties I’m talking about with double standards.

It’s their fans.

Itshim 27-11-2024 19:07

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186668)
It’s not the Parties I’m talking about with double standards.

It’s their fans.

My standard is simple support , my family ,my dogs and one neighbour. Sod any thing else . Fed up with supporting lazy, stupid and illegals.just of clarity, have given a 5 figure amount to good causes or even directly. They are how ever my choice , not the government's :D

Russ 27-11-2024 19:13

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Very telling but ok

Itshim 28-11-2024 15:11

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186676)
Very telling but ok

Never pretend to be anything I'm not :p:

Maggy 29-11-2024 10:46

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Let's stick to the topic please.


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