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There isn't enough memory in those boxes to add more apps

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The answer if you want Prime is to get a more modern box. There's no point in VM adding it if it won't work with the outdated technology.

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Can someone explain to me what on earth itvX will be? i've read the press release and i can't get my head around it...

basically they will have

1) ITV Player
2) Britbox for exclusive shows in partnership with BBC
3) ITV X to air exclusive ITV Shows in advance of them appearing on the ITV channels.

Utter nonsense it seems to me to just keep releasing more and more streaming services...

Do we as VM customers get anything for free from ITV X?

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

ITV did buy BBC 10% share in Britbox UK.

ITV Player and Britbox UK is set to merge to become known as ITV X.

Seen reports that ITV X will be on Virgin Media from launch. https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/britbox-ar...n-virgin-media

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You're not wrong mate, there's enough shit on as it is.

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It was confirmed in the press release , see Post 590

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The trouble is that TV only customers can't upgrade to a more modern box, so have to use the old TiVo.

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It's a replacement for ITV Hub, so on the Free tier you will get what as you do now. The other elements are for the Pay tier. Whether VM will give us that as part of our sub is not known yet.

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Netflix has been on TiVo for years before the V6 box launched, whereas Prime Video didn't launch until after the V6 did so the choices were different for both Virgin Media and Amazon.

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That's not correct, it's not another streaming service, it's a combining of their existing streaming services and the addition of new content.

I don't think ITV Player has been used as a brand for 6+ years.

'ITVX, which will replace ITV Hub, ITV Hub+ and BritBox UK when it launches...'

https://www.reuters.com/business/med...rm-2022-03-03/

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The replies above explain it, but basically ITV is modernising itself in preparation for the changeover to IPTV. This is likely to be a much more attractive proposition than Britbox and ITV Hub on their own. Britbox has mainly old material on it, which will not attract the kind of numbers they may have originally envisaged. The promised new material for ITVX should ensure that it is more successful.

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but to me ITV X sound like a well known adult channel.

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Just wait until ITV tell you it's pronounced Cross, like the button on PlayStation controllers. :D

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No, that’s ITVXXX. :D

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There is a video on ITV Website showing and explaining what ITVX is and how britbox will work on it
https://www.itvmedia.co.uk/making-an...u-need-to-know

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Don't forget the ITV App that only shows Australian soaps, dramas, comedies, and documentaries - ITV XXXX

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

2022:
New deal time for Virgin to broadcast local Channel 4 HD Channels when launch?

2019:
New deal with Channel 4 signed to launch All4 app on TV360 and V6 boxes in 2020.

2017:
Channel 4 buys old BBC THREE Slot on Virgin for E4.

2016:
4Seven HD launches on Virgin
Virgin sign new deal with Channel 4 - Their music channels moved channel numbers.

2013:
More4 +1 and More4 HD both launch on Virgin.

2012:
4Seven launch on Virgin
Virgin signs new deal with Channel 4

2010:
E4 HD launches but some other channels get move to new channel numbers.
https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...nels.html#more

2009:
Channel 4 HD launches on Virgin.
Channel 4 signs new deal with Virgin.

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All4 app launched on Virgin in June 2020
https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...to-tv-platform

So perhaps a new deal was agreed then ?

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I did forgot about that - now added to my list.

Thanks.

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I ask That's TV UK if they has any plans to launch UK wide on Virgin UK (Bar the local ones on Channel 159 in some parts of England and Wales)

I got a following back:

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Very possibly because as you say, it will combine both new and archive content.

I read that ITVX subscribers will get Britbox as part of their subscription. However will Britbox subscribers get ITVX as part of their Britbox subscription?

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Thanks for the reply Ben.

I would conclude that Amazon Prime will work perfectly well - albeit rather slowly - on Tivo boxes and that the decision to withhold it from TV-only customers was purely a business decision.

I also seem to recall that when Amazon first showed live Premier League matches, TV only customers were able to access the games whereas this was discontinued and that TV only customers can no longer access any sport that Amazon Prime shows.

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And that seems to be part of the problem as TV only customers are getting an ever more inferior product compared - includng less content - to VM's internet customers but presumably paying the same amount.

Out of interest, why are TV only customers not allowed to have a more modern box?

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VM don't have a modern TV box model with inbuilt internet. The last model to have this is the model TV-only customers currently have.

All the modern boxes connect to the separate broadband routers. Since TV-only customers don't have VM broadband routers there would be no way to update the EPG or use apps.

I'm guessing most customers take multiple VM products and VM don't think it's worthwhile for the development costs involved in developing another model box.

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as the BBC has dropped their stake in britbox

however BBC Programs will stay on as there still partners, and will include ITVX Exclusives
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/itv...ox-1235195054/

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An app run slowly is itself part of the business decision, and app developers will have metrics as to what they class as 'perfectly well'.

As an app provider would I risk the customer experience impact and potential brand impact of having a newly launched app run slow enough to frustrate people using it? Unlikely.

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Isn't Britbox effectively being folded into ITVX ?

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Well Media Guardian did report on March 18th:


https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...ther.html#more

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Virgin Media O2 top bundles now include Netflix

Virgin Media O2 has refreshed its top packages, the Ultimate Volt bundle and the Biggest TV bundle, to include a Netflix Standard Plan.

https://advanced-television.com/2022...clude-netflix/

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They missed a trick there, if they had announced that at the time of the price increase many folk would maybe have been OK taking the increase, however I wonder if you will be able to pay the difference to have the full 4 screen UHD Netflix.

TBH I am getting better value on my SkyQ deal which includes the 4 screen version and Discovery plus which now would be £21 a month between the 2 alone.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

You can upgrade to Netflix Premium for an extra £5pm
https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2022...-new-packages/

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Interesting observation, I had previously always assumed that requiring VM broadband in order to get a more modern box was a deliberate incentive to upsell.

Of course, they might have taken this into account when deciding whether to pay for the development costs too.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Media Boy UK sources says "UKTV eventually want all their channels FTA and on Freeview, plans are already in action to get Alibi and GOLD FTA and on Freeview, the general feeling is EDEN will be scrapped and morphed into yesterday."

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

That's the impression I get. After all, all ITVX customers will receive britbox. Whether Britbox customers will get ITVX doesn't seem to have been announced.

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As had I and part of me thinks this might still be the case - downgrade the product more and more for TV-only customers in the hope they will get VM internet which I presume would make that customer a lot more profitable, and a lot more of value to the business.

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Thank you for this, and I guess they could achieve this almost straight away by replacing any timeshift channels with these other channels.

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From the launch of ITVX later this year BritBox will also be available to Virgin TV customers within the premium tier of the new ITVX app on Virgin Media O2’s TV platform.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/britbox-ar...n-virgin-media

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but of course I will have no access to this due to me being a TV only customer.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Why o why do you think that you must get the same "perks," as higher paying customers , it's called up selling , if you want it put your hand in your pocket . :erm:

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It's probably a load of bollox anyway, how much garbage can anyone watch.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Have you considered getting VM broadband, Rillington?

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Media Boy UK EXCLUSIVE: Sky UK to close SYFY +1 on March 30th.

Sky UK are set to close SYFY +1 at 10am on March 30th on Virgin UK Channel 229.

SYFY +1 listings say "channel no longer available" from that time.

Source: TiVo.

---------- Post added at 21:20 ---------- Previous post was at 20:55 ----------

Digital Spy Forum is reporting tonight that FIVE Sky owned SD Channels will close on March 30th on Sky:

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_100675461

Also some Sky Cinema rebrand has been reveal:

April
1st Family > Wizarding World
1st Oscars > Gangsters
8th Gangsters > Adventure
15th Adventure > Epics
19th Wizarding World > Family
29th Action > Monsters

May
2nd Monsters > Action
5th Epics > ?

Information thanks to kriZbii

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NBC News Now HD has now launch on Channel 614.

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This Week Changes on Virgin Media:

Wednesday:

Channel Closures
Channel Number - Channel Name
229. SYFY +1

Thursday:

Channels rebranded:
Channel Number - New Channel Name - Old Channel Name
313. MTV 90s - MTV Base
316. MTV 80s - MTV Classic

This weeks Freeview Changes:

Monday

Launches:
Channel Number - Channel Name
025 - W
272 - Asharq News - (IPTV)
273 - Al Arabiya - (IPTV)

Moving Channels Numbers:
Channel Number - Channel Name
060 - Drama +1
069 - ITV4 +1
074 - Dave Ja Vu
104 - S4C HD [Wales Only]
110 - Channel 4 HD [Wales Only]

Need to retune to watch:
Channel Number - Channel Name
060 - Drama +1
678 - Adult Xpanded TV

Changes to coverage
Channel Number - Channel Name
083 - Together TV

Channel Closures
Channel Number - Channel Name
094 - Ideal World Extra

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Should we not call this the "yawn fest"? Just saying.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Why all the space for Freeview info? I know I'm guilty of mentioning other platforms but I don't see any relevance whatsoever.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Some viewers of Virgin Media will have Freeview on their TV or a Freeview box in a bedroom.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Some viewers have Sky and/or Freesat too.

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Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

I did also post a changes for Sky and Freesat on their own thread.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Here you go - enjoy.;)

This weeks Sky UK Changes:

Monday

Moving Channels Numbers:
Channel Number - Channel Name
109. W/W HD [Outside Wales] - Moving to Channel 132
110. W/W HD [Wales Only] - Moving to Channel 132
132. Alibi/Alibi HD [Outside Wales] - Moving to Channel 109
132. Alibi/Alibi HD [Wales Only] - Moving to Channel 109
209. W +1 [Outside Wales] - Moving to Channel 232
210. W +1 [Wales Only] - Moving to Channel 232
232. Alibi +1 [Outside Wales] - Moving to Channel 209
232. Alibi +1 [Wales Only] - Moving to Channel 210

Wednesday

Channel Closures
Channel Number - Channel Name
252. SYFY +1
259. Pick +1
308. Sky Cinema Comedy [SD Channel]
309. Sky Cinema Crime & Thriller [SD Channel]
310. Sky Cinema Drama & Romance [SD Channel]

Thursday:

Channels rebranded:
Channel Number - New Channel Name - Old Channel Name
352. MTV 90s - MTV Base
353. MTV 80s - MTV Classic

This week Freesat changes:

Monday

Launches:
Channel Number - Channel Name
156 - W

Wednesday

Channels Closures:
Channel Number - Channel Name
145. Pick +1

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

I read virgin TV as virgin TV not sky ( can see on tablet) or Freeview ,( again I can get) so please don't waste everyone's time scrolling past it . Many thanks:)

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Poor news day so:

Can you remember this? (It was 12 years this month)!!!!!!!

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-channels.html

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Not something I will watch but a launch date for Talk TV confirmed - April 25th
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2045612.html

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The WarnerMedia and Discovery, Inc. transaction is expected to be completed on April 5, 2022. And become know as Warner Bros. Discovery.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

My two 360 boxes have received a software update overnight. Virgin Media seems to have skipped version 4.38 and gone straight to version 4.39. I can't find anything new at first sight, just the usual bland message.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Yes, I wish these messages actually stated the changes that had been made.

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This won’t affect Virgin Media at all, MB.

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https://community-ziggo-nl.translate...n&_x_tr_pto=sc
4.38 info update from The Netherlands, no mention of 4.39

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Talks are ongoing as Warner want to end the HBO deal with SKY early, but it might cost them a fair whack to do so.

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It’d be worth it if HBO Max’s European launch is fast-tracked. Short-term pain for long-term gain by WBD.

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Long term gain ????? People are starting to cut back on the number of services they sub to.

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Is that people in your house, MM? There’s no cutting back here! :D

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Consumer programmes are recommending people to cut back on streaming services (and pay TV) to cope with the exponential rise in the cost of living, so I expect that they are.

People can't eadily (or at all) cut back on National Insurance, petrol, food, gas, electricity etc, so are being advised to cut back on things that were paid for out of their disposable income when they had it.

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Cutting back here Netflix is potential one more price hike away from joining Disney+ and Prime in getting cancelled.

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It will.

Unless Virgin Media UK signs a deal with Warner Bros. Discovery.

Virgin will need to payout two payments per month to a same company.

The following Channels may launch as part of this new deal:

-CNN HD
-Boomerang HD
-Discovery Turbo +1
-Food Network +1
-Quest Red +1

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I doubt that, MB. CNN is now the streamer, CNN+ and the linear TV channel has closed down. I would not have thought that any new +1 channels would launch on Virgin. As for Boomerang, I can't see Virgin paying more to get that channel, since they didn't pay to keep it last time.

Incidentally, the CNN app is still showing on the 360, and when I checked the other day, it was still working, too.

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Erm, CNN+ literally launched on the 29th of this month.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN%2B

Or did you see something about their Spanish venture of the same name that closed at the end of 2010?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN%...sh_TV_network)

And the linear broadcast versions of CNN International channels are still operational and are still on Sky 506/884. I'm assuming you mean closed on VM.

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I believe CNN isn't on Sky Glass , i suspect it's a contractual reason why it's still on Sky TV platform , I doubt CNN is coming back on Virgin or even CNN HD launching either.

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Sorry, there should have been a second comma after CNN+.

Yes, I was talking about VM (as this is the Virgin thread), and if Virgin wanted to bring the subscription channel to our screens, it could have done so already.

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CNN+ is offering the same three channels that CNNGo offered - doesn't seem much different.
The US cable provider subscription option opens them up too.

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I am happy enough with the CNN app on my 360. I don’t know how it differs from CNN+ except I’m not paying for it.

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No it’s people all over the world , whilst being far from loaded I’m comfortable enough to afford the streaming services I want but there are only so many hours in the day and I don’t spend all of them glued to the TV.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

The app on VM seems to be mailny news story clips.

The CNN+ app and full episodes of most CNN shows available as well as libe streams of CNN, CNN International and HLN.

But I don't think it is worth paying more than £1.99pm for.

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Media Boy UK Views: Has Virgin signed a new deal with Paramount Global as MTV 80s and MTV 90s plays 'musical chairs'?

Virgin Media UK has given MTV 80s and MTV 90s new channel numbers.

313. MTV 80s (Was set to be on Virgin UK Channel 316.)
316. MTV 90s (Was set to be on Virgin UK Channel 313.)

Last deal was signed in October 2019. https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...gin-media.html

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I doubt the jigging of 2 channels about to have them in order would have anything to do with a 'new deal'

Despite the deal from October 2019 being in place MTV Play was yet to launch on the 360 when I left in January.

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It’s not a good thing to be glued to the set all day, I agree. I have a number of streamers so that when I do sit down of an evening at about 9pm, there’s actually enough choice to ensure I can watch something I actually want to see.

The area I may cut back on when my contract expires is the pay TV channels. These are providing less and less value for money as far as I can see. That will leave me with only the basic TV channels (mainly the terrestrials), to which I will add the Now TV entertainment and film packages, Netflix, Prime, Apple+, Disney+, Discovery+, Stabal TV and ITVX (when available). Given that I already subscribe to most of these, the saving should be pretty worthwhile, I believe, and I won’t be losing any choice.

I’ve given up on Virgin getting more streamers very quickly and integrating the searches for them, so I’m coming to terms with having several watchlists with the associated fiddling around, but you have to go with what you can get.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Have a look a the series links options. If you select the pen and go to advanced - for new series still being made I think you can now change it to record 'new' only.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

That’s a good development. I will try that out later.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

epsilon did report over a past week on DS Forum:

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_100692776

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_100717406

QVC to launch QVC HD and QVC Style HD on Monday on Sky and FreeSat.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Thanks, Ozsat, I have yet to find that. I will check it out later. A step in the right direction. Hopefully, we will get an undelete option with one of the next updates.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Tat in HD......

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Exactly, and there's loads of the shite.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

B****** expensive tat !

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

BT Sport / Discovery merger latest:

Information was posted on DS Forum by "TSE". https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_100730463

DS Forum user "TSE" also posted a link to a Pay wall story on The Times website: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...dent-n5kh6l6tg

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

epsilon has posted a following on DS Forum tonight:

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_100735636

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Can’t wait. :rolleyes:

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

With you for once !

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Don't worry. There'll be a subscription QVC streaming service eventually.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

BBC Three Struggles To Find Audiences After £80m Relaunch: Critics Slam “Complete Waste Of Money”

https://deadline.com/2022/04/bbc-thr...ey-1234993201/

You don't say.....

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Julian Knight and John Redwood being the 'critics'.

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Fleabag was poor in my own view.

I was hoping to catch Normal People when BBC THREE was relaunch - but it so far no where to be seen. (I even got my TiVo set up for it)

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

And Nigel Mills - it’s almost as if they have something in common…

---------- Post added at 17:36 ---------- Previous post was at 17:35 ----------

It’s on iPlayer.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

I wont "sign up" just to watch it.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Maybe he can't get away from playing Candy Crush for long enough to watch tv.

---------- Post added at 18:28 ---------- Previous post was at 18:26 ----------

;):D

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Why?

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Only one reason I can think of ! :erm:

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

That’s just silly, MB. You’ll have to sign up to everything before much longer.

If you want to see the programme, just sign up and be done with it!

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Just use the iplayer on kodi no need to sign up.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

I don't have Kodi

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

I guess you’re screwed then, MB.

Just sign up, old chap. I promise it won’t hurt a bit!

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

FYI: WarnerMedia - Discovery Inc deal may close as early as Friday Afternoon.

Warner Bros. Discovery WILL LAUNCH on Monday (April 11th).

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/dis...se-1235225258/

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

More musical chairs last night as MTV 80s returned to 316 and MTV 90s returned to 313. Maybe Virgin unsigned the new deal. ;)

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Same order as Sky now - MTV 90 then 80s.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

If anyone wants a clue as to why they actually returned to their original channel numbers. These are the channel numbers used on MTVs on screen promos. Oops! did Virgin move them without agreement?

Next time it might be a good idea to get rid of 316 and move whatever they were going to put there to 314. But unlikely, what's the point of an EPG without gaps? :D

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Coming soon:

Additions to look out for:

SID 1209 BBC Parliament HD
SID 1420 Test 1420 (may just be an internal service, time will tell)
SID 1510 Talk TV

Happy searching DBR watchers. ;)

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 

Might be BBC Alba HD since all the others are done, bar the AD ones.