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That quote does not support your unusual argument that Sky has a "woke obsession".

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Listening to OBs fantasy predictions maybe? :D

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Backchat? :D

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Did I really say that? I thought I said the BBC had a woke obsession, or something along those lines. :erm:

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:D

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From yesterday, less than 24 hours ago...

Your memory's going... ;)

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As posted on May 18th:

RichardCoulter information now been confirmed by Media Boy Sources.

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If only….

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Ah, yes, I understand why I said that. It’s not as woke as the Beeb, though, to be fair.

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Sky News was owned by Murdoch for decades. He's like the anti wokeness. I really dislike the term "woke" its been way overused recently by the right wing press. Its really ironic that people on the left who complained a few years ago were called "snowflakes" now people on the right can complain about every little thing going on and they're not called "snowflakes" they're called "anti woke" its absurd.

If you want to accuse the bbc in general of having a liberal bias in its regular tv shows then i can completely 100% agree with you.

But BBC News being woke? What does that even mean?

Woke has become an insult used by opponents of movements such as Black Lives Matter, often to mock or belittle supporters of such causes.[69] Among American conservatives, the term is often used mockingly or sarcastically.[18] FiveThirtyEight's Perry Bacon Jr. writes that as of 2021, woke is mainly a pejorative used by centrists and conservatives to denote progressive politics that emphasize race or identity, often alongside the idea that critics of "woke" ideas are the victims of cancel culture.[7

How in any point has the BBC News become woke? The BBC News reports on black lives matters protests and certainly doesnt celebrate them. The BBC regularly reports on immigrants crossing the channel too? They are showing both sides?

As well as BBC news making Laura Kussenberg its head of politics as she keeps in contact with all the tory big brass and basically at times became the spokeswoman for the governments message as well as announcing hints at postal votes favouring the tories the day before THE ELECTION which definitely could have influenced people.

BBC News has also given a platform for people like Nigel Farrage and Lawrence Fox. Like Nigel Farage has never been elected to an office in this country and had some of the highest coverage of a political figure in the last ten years. How is the BBC woke?

The cambridge dictionary defines the term "woke" as:

aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality:
She urged young black people to stay woke.
disapproving He said that many of these so-called woke individuals never actually engage with the marginalized groups they claim to defend.

Whilst BBC News continues to give voices to people on the right who as a result have become household names. Also to the fact two of the Corporation’s leading politics programmes, the Daily Politics and The Sunday Politics, were both presented by Andrew Neil, who has also served as the Chairman of right of centre magazine, The Spectator.

To end with:

Other research has suggested that the BBC’s output may be weighted in favour of the right. Although over a decade old, a previous study by Cardiff University found the ratio of right-wing, establishment coverage to be significantly greater than left-wing viewpoints in both 2007 and 2012. Across both periods, Conservative politicians were featured around 50% more often than Labour politicians on the weekday bulletin BBC News at Six.

To summarise is the BBC bias to the left and "woke" in terms of its television output= I can see how people may think that myself with some of its entertainment and documentary output.

But the BBC News I would say definitely leans slightly to the right with Laura Kussenberg on board. Lets remember the infamous Jeremy Corbyn superimposed into Moscow with a russian hat on. Thats forgotten....imagine if the BBC had superimposed david cameron with a pig.

So can we stop just labelling bbc news as "woke" without giving some indication as to why you think the bbc is "woke". It just becomes a sort of strange chant now for anything people dont like "its too woke..." "its woke...." "wokkkkeeee" its almost like people are zombies. I could accuse people who say everything is woke are snowflakes but thankfully i don't get my latest buzz words to use in conversation from the dailymail! Its just lazy!

Feel free to criticise the BBC News but at least give rational behind it rather than parroting "its woke" without giving any facts or evidence. Myself i'm looking forward to the lollage GB News will bring as it'll be like a slow moving car wreck but I'll always switch to BBC News for the sudden death of elder statesmen and the outrage of the wrong colour ties reverting to the polar opposite of "too much coverage" for phil.

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Are those channels going on Disney+ ?

Disney is really becoming disproportionate to being closed off to only SKY, as there's quite a lot of channels gone to their own Demand platform.... it was about time Disney+ came to Virgin their exclusivity should come to an end

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The plan is all Disney owned content will be on Disney+ including Nat geo stuff.
Disney+ is available on many devices yes it's nice having it on you stb but often you get more options with apps via a dedicated streaming device aka Roku, Firetv, Nvidia shield, google tv etc with no need to pay a monthly rental fee for the device.
You do pay a rental fee btw for vm, bt, sky devices over the term of your contract and beyond if you keep the services.

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A good post. I think we're all thankful they didn't expose us to that image. :eeek:

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There are black Continuity Announcers that do the job correctly, there's one on Radio 4 that is very good. The black newsreader on BBC News is very good too.

I'm talking about the CA that wouldn't sound out of place saying "This is BBC1 innit bro". It's absolutely vile to hear and has no place on national television.

There are occasionally disabled people on screen and this is good as it helps to normalise disability. However, I would be the first to complain if almost every programme was about disabled issues or if programmes were suddenly stuffed with disabled people to the point of misrepresentation.

This wouldn't do anything for disabled people, in fact it would damage the progress made thus far as the current BBC obsession with everything black is doing.

I have always been a general supporter of the BBC, but it's now getting to the stage where I can no longer listen to this propoganda being shoved down my throat. I actually enjoy the odd programme highlighting black issues as these are both informative & educational, but this is no longer tolerable and for the first time i'm considering cancelling my TV licence.

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I have no problem with anybody doing anyjob no matter what the race, colour, disability, gender, etc.

What I think is wrong is somebody getting a job because they are needed to fulfil a 'quota' rather than they are best for job.

It could be that all continuity announcers are black - because thet all were the best applicants. But then it could be there are all white for the same reason.

If you are offering 20 jobs - then it would be wrong that one or two people have to be taken on to fill a quota when two other better qualified people will loose out.

If we are all equal - then putting too many specialised presenters / programmes out - is making some more equal than others. BBC are very good at that mis-match.

I no longer watch BBC News unless they are covering some major live criminal event - or sports news.

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:clap:

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The plan is that Disney close all their international channels, with all content being available via Disney+. They’ve also stated they won’t renew other 3rd party deals in order to prioritise Disney+.

Disney are reportedly favourites to purchase BT Sport, which could lead to further linear closures and the launch of ESPN+ in the UK.

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Didnt know Sky had exclusive access to disney? If disney do buy BT Sport I hope they start getting some of the rights back from other channels. Get Serie A back and La Liga. At that point we'd only have to pay two different subscriptions at least!

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Talks have broken down between Disney+ and virgin media.
Not sure what's happened yet but looks like it's down to money VM want a bigger cut than what's offered.

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It’s a shame. I suppose that driving a hard bargain gets a better price for customers, or maybe simply a bigger profit for VM, but in the end, it looks like the ambition to be a ‘super aggregator’ is a bit pie in the sky.

Sooner or later, there will be a better proposition that will benefit customers that will neatly contain everything integrated in one box, including terrestrial and Sky. That will see VM dead in the water.

The opportunity is there I think for Sky to seize. If it does so, they will get my custom, that is for sure. They are almost there, actually.

A great pity, and a wasted opportunity.

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Dont see virgin around in the next ten years or so. At least not with its current offerings my guess cable tv as we know it will be a thing of the past. Good grief even a ludite such as myself use the tv live side less and less :D

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Are Sky any better at "super aggregating"?

Ultimately all of these content owners want to vertically integrate their way past platforms. It's not for existing successful platforms to prop up fledgeling streamers. Many of whom will go the way of Eleven Sports who you would have had propped up by both Sky and Virgin driving up the costs they have with their own content owners.

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Once FTTP is rolled out more widescale VM are in trouble one would think.
But that is still a long way away.

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Well, yes, of course they are, but I agree they could do better. Even so, they are leaving Virgin, who initially took the lead, well behind.

You can quote Eleven Sports as much as you like, but their failure in the UK does not come near to proving your point. Any business can fail. Vice TV didn’t do too well over here either, did it?

Existing platforms need to support streamers, which are the key to the future. Those who do not will suffer the fate they deserve.

Technology is a fast moving industry and you either keep up or fall by the wayside.

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Which streaming providers do Sky “aggregate”?

I absolutely disagree with this statement. That’s like paying a subcontractor to eat into your own business.

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Virgin could succeed in my opinion, but it is looking to me now that it is unlikely, because of their attitude. They just don’t have the passion for it.

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Gigabit connectivity to millions of homes. I’d not be sweating for a while yet because someone doesn’t like the fact they don’t fund fledgeling streamers.

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Netflix, Amazon, Discovery+, Disney+ - hell, jf man, you can do your own research.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...to-bear-fruit/

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Which can you buy in one single integrated package?

Having an app on a box isn’t the same thing.

I can indeed do my own research but to be honest I’d prefer you justified your positions first.

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The fact is old chum, that the streamers are taking content away from Sky. If Sky cannot offer their subscribers the content they want on their platform, their customers’ eyes will wander elsewhere.

Surely even you will be aware of the potential damage Disney could have done to Sky by taking away their programming.

Your one dimensional view of things really does throw up some strange arguments, jfman! Sky cannot afford to disregard the future of TV as you do.

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It’s not just about money. It’s about getting all your searchable content in one box. That’s what most savvy customers want.

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A foolish conclusion.

The average person - in particular due to the massive economic impact of COVID-19 - does not have unlimited income. Does not have unlimited discretionary expenditure.

Potential.

Equally it could damage Disney in the long run.

Yawn, they literally operate a streamer.

Not at unlimited cost I’m sure. Neither do streamers want their content presented below another provider because they ponied up more.

It’s literally all about money. Your wet dream of them all striking wholesale agreements with some streaming box provider is just that. Fantasy.

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Tbf if you want all streaming services on one device you'd be better of investing in a mini pc or windows stick.
I say those as ROKU, Firetv, android tv do have one or two missing aka shield missing nowtv, firetv missing peacock (USA only) but some in UK use it, Roku missing HBOMAX (USA) a mini pc can be got for as little as £100 if you only want it to watch streaming services.

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The problem for OB isn’t the availability of device but he wants existing pay-tv providers to fund their competitors and also promote them to the top of the EPG!

Inherently unlikely.

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As someone who deals with providers i can confirm that will never happen it would not be financially suitable, not to mention deals are already in place for EPG numbers the channels there pay a lot of money for their EPG spot.

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Sky customers also have the added benefit of free Discovery + and heavily discounted Netflix (last time I looked it was something daft like £2 a month with a free upgrade to 4K for 4K customers).

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That's your argument, not mine.

Anyhow, there won't even be an EPG in the future, so I don't see how VM will be able to compete with Sky on the TV side without becoming a super-aggregator, which is what John Malone was aiming for at one point.

Despite a late start, Sky has got this message and now offers all the main streaming services. Your apparent belief the VM cannot do this for the reasons you have given is shown up for the nonsense it is by the fact that Sky is already doing it!

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There will always be Live content so there will always be a need for an EPG, or equivalent of, even if it's just for a handful of Live-content-only channels.

Virtually all prerecorded programming will eventually be on-demand, possibly maybe a few shows will be used to fill short gaps in Live channels.

There might even be a few genre-themed and/or provider-authored channels for trailers. My argument is that some people might find it helpful to have something they can turn to to know what's available on the various on-demand services. These would likely be automatically compiled streams rather than broadcast. The Live-content channels will remain broadcast until lag is sorted, possibly longer as there will probably be reasons that aren't obvious to us end-users for broadcast continuing.

Something being streamed rather than broadcast doesn't mean channels will disappear, it doesn't stop being a channel because it's delivered differently, Live-content will require navigating, and comparing side-by-side so the viewer can decide which, if any, Live content to watch, so a grid guide system of some sort for Live content will likely continue. But awful navigation has never stopped stopped a service being a success, just look at Facebook.

Given EPG stands for Electronic Programme Guide and those words could describe the interface to every existing VOD service, maybe the term EPG will simply be redefined. If we were looking for a more accurate name for what is currently called an EPG we would probably call it an Electronic Channel Schedule instead.

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Sorry Hugh, you posted as I was typing/composing.

On-topic. I've not noticed Colors Gujarati stream on Digital Bit Rate yet, despite it supposedly launching on VM soon.

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It's not Netflix is £5p/m and HD and UHD is a extra £11p/m.

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Probably should've looked on the bloomin' EPG. :erm::D

Colors Gujarati is now on Channel 825.

Must've been added just after the DBR scan I looked at.

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AIUI if you pay for UHD you get also get Netflix in UHD too at no extra cost.

The cost of Netflix via Sky seems to vary, it was £2 last time I looked on Black Friday. It does always appear to be cheaper than subscribing via Netflix directly though.

Given that Disney+ talks appear to have stalled with VM over them wanting a bigger cut from Disney, I wonder how Sky can offer their customers Netflix at a lower cost than Netflix themselves. Maybe it's a similar set up as VM have with BT Sport??

Rather than burying their heads in the sand, Sky seem to be embracing the streamers by obtaining good deals for their customers and viewing them as another income stream.

By having them discounted or free on the Sky STB I imagine that their thinking is that customers are less likely to subscribe to a streamer directly and be tempted to cancel Sky. Probably a more sensible approach as the streamers aren't simply going to go away.

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I pay £4p/m for Netflix uhd ;) with work arounds
In the office we suspect Discovery will be next to start leaving pay tv platforms and being exclusive to Discovery+ won't happen for awhile as contracts still have quite a bit to run yet.
UKTV are another one to watch been talks about their pay channels being added to UKTVPlay for a small monthly fee.

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I think you're right Re: Discovery. Two or three years ago I was privy to a document that showed that the ultimate aim of Discovery was to put everything onto their streaming service and keep only one linear channel to showcase their content.

I wonder if the shares that Malone has been building up in Discovery will have any affect on the Discovery linear channels leaving VM? Probably not given the merger with O2.

Do you know if the UKTV plan is to complement their linear pay channels or replace them? I'm assuming that their FTA linear channels will be unaffected??

It really does seem to be a growing trend for broadcasters to cut out the middle man and retail directly to consumers via streaming apps. Another reason why Sky seem to have taken the sensible approach by embracing them and making the emerging situation work for them as best they can.

In time I can see the pay TV platforms being given no choice but to offer their pay TV element via apps. Instead of packs we could see discounted bundles being offered according to how many apps a person subscribes to.

I doubt this will be as profitable for them; maybe this is why Murdoch sold Sky before the company lost value because of this??

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Atm UKTV would probably offer them on UKTVPlay as a alternative so still keeping a good relationship with VM and SKY whilst they build their pay model on UKTVPlay.

Viacom will be another one would think as they roll out Paramount plus to more markets, i'm off work for rest of week so wouldn't get anything concrete until i return to work (if anything develops).

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Okidoki.

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That could be useful if they fail to reach a carriage agreement with Virgin next time. I don't know how well this would work other than for linear channels and catch up. BBC Studios can make their archive content available via BritBox and maybe shouldn't need an additional svod streaming service.

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My TiVo box confirmed Colors Gujarati is broadcasting on SID 810 using the C002 Stream (where Talking Pictures is SID 801).

SID 810 is not listed on DBR yet.

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Their homepage indicates that the Virgin Media monitor is offline, so their listings won't be getting updated at the moment.

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Does anyone know anything about this rumour that i've been told?

'A rumour currently circulating is that Virgin has added a whole new range of subscription codes, very light on choice, very few specialised channels, +1s and a distinct lack of many of the FTA channels. I don't have any details and don't know if this is a new alternative for existing subscribers. It could be something to do with Virgin's network extensions with third party involvement and is maybe some hybrid package that could be offered to supplement Freeview (similar to the BT model).'

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… or maybe just an IPTV offering for existing BB only customers.

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I bet you're right. There was talk of a new TV entertainment service a bit back for BB only customers. Those trialling it get it for free by having the charge refunded on their bill.

Over the last few years the spectrum for BB has been expanded at the expense of TV capacity. If all goes well, maybe the plan is to make all customers BB only, scrap traditional cable TV and deliver the channels that they have left over the internet just as they are in the process of doing with their traditional phone service by changing it to VOIP.

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I can't get that link to work, but i've found this:

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...t-service.html

I wonder if this will allow VM to offer their TV service via 3rd party BB in uncabled areas?

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Andrew Neil has explained that he would probably not have launched GB News if the BBC had treated him with more respect:

http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co....article/182846

(Scroll down that page to read that part of the comments section).

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This is the reply after saying it was believed that these new codes were for the new TV Entertainment service for BB only customers:

'Possibly, but I think those trials were already in place before the codes were added. I'm not sure why codes would be needed on the TV platform to provide an IPTV service, wouldn't any codes for IPTV be held within the online system? Virgin already offers many of its channels over IPTV for devices, I would have thought that they would have used that system for the trial. As an afterthought, there is also a problem for BBC channels, where the BBC insists on their own platforms being used for online content.'

I wonder if SP knows what's going on and is able to say without getting into any bother :D

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Now TV is to scrap the kids pack and put them back into Entertainment. Sky Cinema is going back down to £9.99 per month too.

Now that Disney have pulled their channels and considering that a lot of the kids channels are available FTA the kids pack represents poor value, so I wouldn't be surprised if Sky & VM put the kids channels back into mainstream packs too.

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...and the HD "Boost" (which also allows you view on three screens instead of two) is going up by £2/month at the same time.

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Oh, that's just great! I do resent having to pay more to get a decent PQ on my TV.

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….. and if you don’t take the boost you can only stream on one device at at time from July.

Less and less interesting and more expensive overall.

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No and no ;)

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No, drops from 3 to 2 devices without HD Boost...

From Now's website -

NOW Boost is the way to enjoy sports, movies and shows with better picture and sound quality than ever before on NOW.

Not only that, but Boost also lets you stream on 3 devices at once instead of the usual 2. All for just £3 a month until 14 July 2021, increasing to £5pm from 15 July.



What do I get with NOW Boost?
Full HD: Watch all the Sky Sports channels, plus selected shows and movies, in 1080p video quality instead of the usual 720p.
Smoother sporting action: 6 Sky Sports channels – Main Event, Premier League, F1, Football, Cricket and Golf – are available at 50 frames per second (except on Xbox One & Series X/S and LG TV).
Awesome audio: Got a surround sound speaker system or soundbar? Boost lets you enjoy a fully immersive audio experience with Dolby Digital 5.1.
An extra stream: Another handy benefit is that you get to stream on 3 devices at the same time. Perfect for families that can’t agree on what to watch!

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I’m sure those that have to pay for internet connections and upgraded internet connections will say the same in your dystopian future.

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https://help.nowtv.com/article/we-ar...g-some-changes

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Ads coming and 1 stream unless you pay for the Boost :D

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Well Nowtv will be going bye bye otherways to get their content if they want to play silly games lol.
(i'm talking about waiting for them to come on Netflix/Amazon before i get ppl knocking my door with torches lol).

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Entertainment and boost now £14.99 (£9.99 + £5) making it dearer than Netflix Premium tier for less concurrent streams and no UHD included oh and the small matter of no Movies included in that option of Now TV unlike Netflix.

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I think those are the upper prices - I'm sure Now will continue with its discounting policy. ;)

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It will have to as I don't see many paying the full price.

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Many thanks :)

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That's quite a lot of changes in one go on Now

Single stream unless you pay an extra £5 effectively combats password sharing your account.
A paid service with Adverts is taking the mick though. I tolerate it on the terrestrial catch up streamers as they're free but on a paid for service is hard to accept.

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Disney+ is only £7.99 a month, with 4 concurrent streams, 4K options, 1200+ movies (including Disney, Pixar, MCU, Star Wars), documentaries, Fox/ABC libraries. Plus premier access to theatrical films for an extra fee. Makes the newcomer more lucrative.

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This price rise for Boost is completely out of order.
Except for Mare of Easttown there's been nothing of note on Sky Atlantic this year. I've been offered Now Entertainment for £5/m until the new year but I'm not sure I'll bite. Hate the way the HBO content is whisked away so soon after broadcast.

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Exactly so rounding of numbers lol D+ £8p/m, Netflix £10p/m (can be got cheaper), Amazon prime video £6p/m total = £24p/m you get quite a nice selection of shows and movies and a bit of live sport for that.

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So vote with your feet and leave if your not happy its the only way they'll realise problem is many times people complain but then just continue to pay.

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You are right bit in out house it's probably the one that gets watched the least.

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Been saying this for years it won't happen .to many will pay regardless:td:

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These are now showing on digitalbitrate but are still not added to the EPG:
https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...ve=209&lang=en

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Media Boy HQ thinks the extra BBC Red Button channels will launch on their channels numbers on or around June 24th.

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1andrew1 HQ suspects they may launch on 28th June as that's the first day of Wimbledon. ;)

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Base on past BBC Red Button "Summer" channels both Virgin and Sky launch them about four days before the first day of Wimbledon.

They did launch on the Thursday before the launch on Wimbledon 2018 & 2019.

2018: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-launches.html

2019: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...ed-button.html

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BT are offering Now TV Entertainment (they call it the Essential pack) for £5 a month for two years:

https://www.bt.com/packages/essentia...FUMfBgAd1AcE1Q

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That's the way to do it!

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What's this a Punch and Judy show :D

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I fear I may now read all future OB posts with a Mr Punch voice... :erm:

Hopefully not.

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To BT customers i'm not with BT though, thankyou for the heads up though.
Atm i'm with SKY for tv but contract ends next month already given my 30 days notice.

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Four unknown channels has been added over night to Virgin Media Scotland.

But as of time of posting no new channels has appeared on the EPG.

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Based on Total Channels in box settings or Digital Bit Rate?

I didn't notice anything on the latter earlier.

Any particular reason you mentioned Scotland specifically? You don't normally mention regional information when telling us of these sort of things.

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It occurred to me, since I couldn't think of any other possibilities, that maybe the 4 channels could be the missing Channel 4 HD advertising regions?

It's obviously not the temporary BBC Red Buttons as there's 6 of those and you've already mentioned those.

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Bit of a cheeky set-up charge of £30 too, but they do give you AMC as well as Now TV.

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That's the Future of TV thread. :D

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It was on Total Channels.

I only say Scotland due to some Virgin Media areas maybe higher as in Scotland.

Virgin do not carry That's TV Scotland on Channel 159.

Or the ITV alternative regional variation in select regions on Channel 870/871.

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Thanks MB. :)

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Sky Sports announces new partnerships with Top Rank and BOXXER until 2025

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...xer-until-2025

Is Sky set to launch an Sky Sports Boxing HD Channel in August???

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Now it all makes sense. In future I'll read that thread substituting the word "sausages" for "streamers". "Linear TV will be completely replaced by sausages in twenty-something five" said Mr Punch. Hmm! :D

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No, boxing will be on Sky Sports Action.

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Did think so. I saw an Sky Sports Boxing dog on Sky Sports News when the news was breaking.

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They'll prob just change the name temporaily on SSAction or SSArena to promote the boxing more.
Similar as they do for cricket, golf etc.

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VM have pulled the page. It was a link to trial for BB-only customers to have TV content by "another route".

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It's rolling out in beta atm i'd imagine.

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Is it in connection with this?
https://www.libertyglobal.com/the-mi...t-set-top-box/

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I wouldn't be surprised. That device has been around for some time so, if it is that, Virgin's trial will be more of an assessment of user satisfaction with the device than a beta test. It doesn't seem to have much to offer to customers wanting more hard drive space.

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Why do you say that?
This screenshot from the video suggests that it has the full Horizon 4 function, including Saved, which presumeably comes from the Cloud, as is available with some countries with the TV 360 box.

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Recording to the cloud is fine if broadcasters are ok with it. So far that doesn't seem to be the case in the UK.

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Recording to the cloud may be the future - however my big concern would be the time limited availability of programmes compared to that of recordings on my hard drive.

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The retention period would be a concern for me too but there is little point in discussing recording to the cloud until it starts to happen in this country.

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The request for trial users was very vague, but specified it was only for those who had BB only.

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 

Do they still do “refer a friend” to virgin media bonuses? Sister is having trouble on sky due to huge trees behind them now causing pixelation