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Yup, one week today. This campaign has seemed a lot less dramatic presumably because COVID has dominated the world instead.

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Indeed. I suspect, even disregarding his inept Covid response, being unable to control the narrative has impacted the Trump campaign.

His populist bullshit has been drowned out.

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I really hope Biden wins by a landslide so there is no way trump can cry"fix".Purely to stop the carnage that would follow on the streets of america if trump gets four more years.

What a choice;Sleepy Joe who will struggle to last a term or the most unsuitable/unintelligible person ever to grace(disgrace) the white house.

America deserves better than these two choices(or does it?)

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Agreed. It's also a bit harder for him to talk about some of the policies he had last time:
- "Lock her up" Sensibly not pursued
- Build the wall - not happened
- Large infrastructure projects - not happened
- Bring back manufacturing jobs to the rust belt - not happened
- Kill Obamacare dead - not happened

As an impartial observer, it's only fair to point out that the Obama jobs boom continued under Trump's leadership but his handling of Covid (Or Covid itself depending on your viewpoint) put an end to that. And he's set the agenda for relations with China and negotiated a peace settlement between Israel and the UAE. But I don't think the latter will hold much interest for his core support.

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What they should be obsessing about is climate change, a far bigger threat to the World than the virus. However folks and politicians can't see further than today.

Given Donald's views on the matter this election matters to us all. It may already be too late, but its last chance saloon for Planet Earth.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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And today it's cold :dozey:

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Point proved ! How is your ever eroding coastline doing?

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It's concrete mate

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The problem with your inept analysis, yes you have been totally incorrect when it came to Brexit, saying initially it will be reversed or cancelled, it was quite amusing to see your smugness eradicate and you squirm when you admitted your side had lost its fight.

The problem here, you’re writing off Trump like others did in 2016, the chances in the polls that Clinton would become President... echo right up to today’s forecast and people like you, could be making the same pathetic mistake.

Trump, may lose and become a one term president, but he’s made the history books, and he has reshaped the Judiciary system for decades with his picks for Federal Judges and Supreme Court Justices, the last one confirmed right on Crooked Hillary’s birthday, yesterday, what a gift. :rofl:

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My suggestion to any Trump fan here is prepare for Trump to lose and if by any miracle he doesn't then you'll be super happy. Pretending he has a good chance of winning may lead to serious disappointment.

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I did believe the Establishment would try to reverse it - I think you'll agree three years of obstacles would qualify as this. Brexit had to clearly win another referendum or clear mandate at a GE. That happened.

The observational analysis was quite good on reflection.

I am writing off Trump - you are correct.

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FYI the forecast is no longer the same as it was with Clinton as at this point she had started to drop. In terms of popular vote Biden has been much further ahead of where Clinton was and in terms of Battleground states he is a bit further ahead.

Obviously, after what happened in 2016 nobody wants to call it though.

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Surely its 'crooked' to make Court appointments based on politics. Thankfully President Joe is going to review the whole system ;)
BTW 'Trump may lose' ? Fake news. Done lose faith Mick, he's a shoe in :)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36055097) Surely its 'crooked' to make Court appointments based on politics.

It's only the court that has to be neutral,not those nominating judges.

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Presidential Pardons only count for Federal offences, and don’t count for charges/convictions brought by States.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1603803653

That’s not how it works....

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...104896513.html

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Nigel Farage insists with '100% certainty' Donald Trump will win US election next week


"It's all a replay of what we saw back in 2016.

"I say 100 percent of those that go out to vote on November 3, Donald Trump will win a majority in the electoral college.

"I say that 100 percent.

"What I don't know is the extent to which this early mail-in voting is being used and potentially abused.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...2020-latest-VN

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It’s not crooked, by 2016, Obama was a lame duck president, he had no Senate so when he made his court pick, the Republican controlled Senate, blocked his pick. They cited that it was an election year. Fast forward to now, Republicans have fast tracked Trump’s pick, hypocritically. That said, they did right thing. The way the pathetic Democrats treated Justice Kavanaugh with his confirmation, with fake allegations trying to discredit him to keep seat open. Democrats also changed the 60 vote confirmation requirement, when they controlled the Senate in 2013. Paving the way to allow the Republicans last night to confirm Amy Coney Barrett, on 52 votes to 48. The Democrats reap what they sow.

Democrats get all they deserve, if they pack the Supreme Court should they gain the Senate this year, at every other election, Republicans could regain power and make changes how they see fit and it’s just an endless cycle of power grabs by each side.

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Wasn't the 60 vote thing about the filibuster? I.E You only needed 51 votes to confirm but 60 votes to override any attempt to filibuster so short of either party getting above 60 the other party could just hold up the entire process.

They need rid of the filibuster anyway, it's a stupid system.

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Kinda...

This Time article best explains it:

https://time.com/5324365/harry-reid-...supreme-court/

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Yeah. The filibuster is another mechanism of American politics I don't understand. It should just be removed. The Democrats doing in 2013 may have backfired but then they shouldn't be allowed to filibuster this nominee all the way until the election anyway, plus nothing would stop the Republicans from getting rid of it either. If the Senate is Republican then thems the breaks.

America seems to love these arbitrary ways they have to block elected politicians from doing stuff. Same with the fact any law congress does actually pass can be litigated all the way to the Supreme Court who themselves seem to be able to do their own little bit of legislating from the bench based on the political learnings of lifetime appointments. The timing of when these justices die can impact the nation for decades to come.

I do like the American system for sheer drama and the mechanisms of how the Government works make for interesting scenarios but I am becoming more convinced it's a bizarre way to run a country. I may not like the recent results of our elections but at the system allows things to happen.

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If you think that is bad. Watch this https://youtu.be/dDYFiq1l5Dg

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Joe Biden calls his VP Pick Sen. Kamala Harris’ husband, Doug Emhoff, “Kamala’s wife” oops:

https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/statu...74534921981952

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Has she always been a chick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDn9D7E7i7Q

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Hope Nigel us going to self-isolate for 14 days when he gets back from the Trump rally in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Hmm, I thought he'd have had a better position than just being in the audience.
He now seems to be focusing on his financial tips newsletter. https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/nigel...-plan-22912149

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He’s with Senators, so probably VIP - not a lot of masks/social distancing on display, though...

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Surely if your names Nigel and your surname rhymes with Garage the rules state you have to self isolate, for 14 years ?

He"ll probably retire to the continent soon like most high profile Brexiteers. Trump will join him, buying Portugal and turning it in to a mega golf course.

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Hope he makes a better job of it than Tony Blair
https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/18/tony-...trip-13440361/

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This is the FT's latest US election polling figures with less than one week to go before US election day on November 3.

https://ig.ft.com/us-election-2020/

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Appreciate it's a bit lengthy, but having read the article in your link, both seem exempt from self-isolation. One rule for the establishment elites like Farage and Blair, another rule for us plebs. ;)
Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/18/tony-...1/?ito=cbshare

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Words just fail me- i hope the virus knows about this exemption.

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This is very scary: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...lection-night/

Pennsylvania has a lot of postal votes and there could be a large discrepancy between votes on the day and the postal votes counted afterwards. So on the night, Trump could be ahead and if this is the deciding state then there is going to be an almighty argument about how long they can count postal votes before shutting it down and declaring a winner. The Supreme Court upheld a decision giving them three days to count them but that can be appealed.

So if Trump is ahead the Republicans could go right to the Supreme Court - which is right leaning - to try and get them to shut down the count ASAP.

Again at the moment, the current evidence is the court will allow votes postmarked before election day to be counted. That's what other states do with postal votes and what we do in the U.K. Flordia usually takes time to fully finish their vote do a few others.

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This is allegedly the 'World's Greatest Democracy' yet they make it incredibly difficult and bureaucratic to vote and try disuade certain sections of society from voting.
Then they struggle to counts any votes that do get cast
and will do anything to avoid counting votes where they don't want them counted. Then it ends up in court that have been politically stuffed with the Govs own supporters.
Sounds like the World's biggest Dictatorship.

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Worlds greatest democracy in the same way their baseball champions are “world” champions

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Don't forget boxing

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U.S Department of Justice official have announced there is an active criminal FBI investigation open on Hunter Biden, son of U.S Presidential Democrat Candidate, Joe Biden, probing money laundering.

https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/w...raine-dealings

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Too late to affect the election, unless if Biden wins and as a sitting president is found guilty of some wrong doing with his sons business dealings.

In any event to late to help Trump.

As much as I would love to see everyone lose their minds if he won again, I feel he’s up against too much this time.

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I like the way God is on all their sides, that should stop them and make them think for a moment, if it did they'd probably find all their lives suddenly became a bit easier. For our sakes I'm hoping for donny does it again but I don't he's what's best for Americans or the World though.

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White House Press Secretary says Trump has took lead in Arizona according to Realclearpolitics poll. Up by 0.6.

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Federal appeals court says MN (Minnesota) cannot count ballots after Election night. A Potential win for Trump.

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So you don't think peoples votes should be counted? :confused:

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I thought they just had to keep them separate - haven’t seen a ruling on not counting them.

https://patch.com/minnesota/southwes...il-ballot-case

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Firstly, it's not my judgement. But thanks for promoting me to Federal Judge.

Secondly - Do we normally count ballots received after an election event, say days after?

America has had ample time to cast it's vote especially by mail - there is potential to cheat after 8PM on Election night, by keep counting ballots after the cut off time, there has to be "closure" to the election, otherwise the result cannot be determined for weeks if ballots keep on coming in, days after the election has ended.

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If they have to keep them separate, then they are not being counted towards the official tally. ;)

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https://mobile.twitter.com/carlquint...3%2Fframe.html

Well thats a few less votes he's got..

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"Estimates", so in other words they don't fecking know either way. :rolleyes:

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The ballot thing isn't too bad as its votes arriving after election day. They can still count ones they've received before. So long as everyone whose voted before or on the day gets counted them I am fine with that.

Most states were saying they would still count votes so long as it was postmarked by election day, i.e they sent it before, and there are some challenges about that.

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That is not what it said. Only posted ballots recieved after election night must be separated.


Link

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https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/1...t-be-separated

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And so in essence they will not still be counted towards the "official tally", the "official tally", is when all counting has ended including any order to permanently discard them, if they have been told to keep them separated after election night, then the "official tally" isn't final. I am still correct in my original statement and I stand by what I said as I always do, you never learn Hugh. :rolleyes:

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Never mind Mick, Hugh will admit you're always right someday i'm sure ;)

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Hugh can admit to whatever he likes, just like I can agree or disagree on whatever I like. If ballots have been told keep separated, then they are not part of the final official tally. The clue in the word is "separate".

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Anyone staying up to watch the results?

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:wavey:

Though I think if it is close, then we won't know results by morning.

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I’ll probably give it til 4/5am but yes it could go on a while if close.

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Until and if a final order is issued finding them unlawful they will be included in the "official tally".

It makes this statement incorrect.

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"If" another clue -

It does not, they are still to be "separate."

we can argue this as much as you like, but I stand by what I said. Let's just agree to disagree and move on. :)

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Do you have no work to go to? ;)

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Same :wavey:

But unless it's anything other that a blowout (Biden winning Flordia, Trump clearly killing it in all the swing states as what happened last time) then we won't know even in the morning. The sheer amount of postal votes will take time to count hence the 'blue/red shift' worries where a state switches candidate in the days following.

Here is a good breakdown of when states will report and the assumption on if a blue or red shift is more likely: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...esults-timing/

So the networks might call some states if a candidate is far enough ahead that they think the remaining postal votes either won't make up a difference or are only likely to increase the leading candidates lead.

So if Biden were winning in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin but then also won Florida which will likely be called on the night/morning then they might call it but otherwise it might take days.

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Former U.S President Barack Obama was at a campaign event in Flint, Michigan today when he had to resort to calling his former VP. Sleepy Joe, three times, missing his initial intro to the podium.

https://twitter.com/FrancisBrennan/s...13557448609792

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Whose call do you think Biden will return first when he's President?*
a) Boris Johnson
b) Angela Merkel
c) Xi Jinping
d) Justin Trudeau
d) Another leader not listed

* Prediction based on Fox News showing Biden ahead by 8%

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President of the Ukraine? :D

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:D:D:D

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Predictions then?

I think Biden will win but it is closer in the swing states so who knows?

My big fear at the moment is legal battles over ballots not yet counted on Tuesday night.

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All the clever money is on Biden as l expect him to win quite comfortably.

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Given up predicting elections and referendums. I make the mistake of thinking the best of people and crediting them with too much intelligence ;)

If Trump is re-elected the American people will be confirmed as the dumbest on Earth. Wouldn't be so bad if it just affected them.

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https://twitter.com/dailycaller/stat...907005962?s=21

One for Mick.

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Trump will be re-elected for sure.

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Biden will win ... Just *







(* I'm usually wrong on election guesses...)

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BREAKING: U.S President Donald Trump set to win US presidency by electoral college landslide Sunday Express Poll finds.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...n-swing-states

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Different from the other polls certainly, not long to find out now.

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Unsure of their methodology in finding "shy Trump voters" among "likely voters". If they were shy surely they'd be claiming they are unlikely to vote?

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Does appear to be an outlier compared to other polls.

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Not really - The difference is obvious, those not willing to tell anyone who they'd vote for, including people close to them, would vote Trump, does not make them a non-voter.

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Already seen it, it's beyond parody that they (The Democrats) have allowed this to continue on, gaffe after gaffe and stupid senile mistakes from Biden.

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I know what the difference is I just don't understand how their methodology better finds the "shy Trump voter" than any other.

If I was reluctant to tell a pollster I'll vote Trump I'd probably say I'm probably not going to vote or undecided. I don't know how they extract me from those figures.

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Because 2020 can't give us anymore nightmares, I feel it can and give Trump another 4 years.

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No need for all this fakery when there's doubtless genuine videos out there.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...rtan-ntp-feeds

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This is concerning.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...rtan-ntp-feeds

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nothing wrong with joe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAHoul4IYMY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzBdBj5QWyY

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You cannot fake ALL his gaffes Andrew so no, they are not fake.

Sleepy Joe has said many many things that make no sense, like when he said he was running for Senate, when he was actually running for President, he said he joined the Senate 180 years ago and when he said only last week that we cannot have another 4 years of George. It's elder abuse letting this man run, with all his dementia like symptoms.

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Joe Biden's mind is like a web browser. 19 tabs are open. 17 are frozen and he has no idea where the music is coming from.


:D

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Latest from Trump's campaign manager who has tweeted a series of tweets in the last hour:

https://twitter.com/BillStepien/stat...29137734397954

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Election Day votes cast margin is certainly a curious way to phrase it.

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Whoever wins there's going to be riots.


Link

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Because there’s a ton of research that suggests the substantial amount of postal votes are putting Biden ahead. For a variety of reasons democrats are more likely to post their votes and republicans are more likely to vote in person on the day. The wording is carefully constructed so as to focus on the very specific metrics that favour Trump, whereas the overall picture certainly doesn’t.

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Pennsylvania bakery's election-themed 'cookie poll' is now showing clear front-runner.

https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/p...ner-owner-says

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So more people want to bite Trumps head off ........... :erm:

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Could also just be one very gluttonous Trump supporter as well....

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Think it's less of an outlier than that Daily Express poll. ;)

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Vote George.

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This pollster called it correctly last time.

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With Pennslyvania unlikely to declare tonight looks like Flordia might let us know if it's going to be close or if Biden is going to win.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Walldo/st...07046331883521
Trump introduces rapper 'Little Pump' as 'Little Pimp' :D

Either he's got dementia ( there's a lot of it about) or he's a very nasty person. Probably both.

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The fact that is this is the closest contest in years speaks volumes. It's either a vote for dementia or the demented. Either way there's no winners this time around.

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So far it's not the closest contest in years.

It's one of the least contested elections in years. More so than 2016. 2012 was closed. 2004 was close. This not so much.

Doesn't mean it won't turn out to be close if the polls are wrong.

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Well, voting is well underway.

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Interesting video on biden

https://www.850wftl.com/video-weekend-at-bidens/




opinion piece on election outcome

https://nypost.com/2020/11/02/if-bid...ckly-drop-him/

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There really is no excuse now....

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/stat...25227487100928

Joe Biden introduces his granddaughter by saying, "This is my son, Beau Biden." ... "This is my granddaughter, Natalie. No wait, no wait. We got the wrong one..."

His son Beau Biden has been dead 5 years...