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The governments approach is interesting politically. If the UK followed other similar countries with lockdowns, etc. then I don't think most people would blame the government if things did go pear shaped as the approach seems sensible on the face of things. However, the government seems to be going a different way from our peers with this 'soft start' approach to things. If the infection and mortality rates do drop below those of our peers, then that's great news. However, if things get worse than our peers, the government will be seen to be directly to blame for this.

Politically, this seems a bit of a risky gamble. Of course a five year cushion before the next election softens the risk

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You have no medical or sufficient medical qualifications, so your opinion is irrelevant.

Yes, as for demanding protection in the form of quarantine, when it is the RIGHT time to do so as already adequately explained to you. So stop it with your incessant whinging, I have seen enough.

The only embarrassing thing, is you trying to mock professional intelligent experts with a Degree or two to their name.

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l think this is a good idea and hopefully the UK supermarkets will follow.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/15/coron...ning-12402597/

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There are similarly well educated scientists of the opposite opinion, including from Harvard and to the advisers to governments around the world so I fail to see why that's relevant.

You equally have no such qualifications.

The only person mocking here is you mocking me in this thread for having the audacity to believe the UK government could be wrong.

Singapore have just banned travel from the UK as a result of us making no efforts to contain the virus. It's only a matter of time before we are Italy - a fact acknowledged by your experts.

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I think you need to look at population dynamics and so forth to see the best means to legislate. How we tend to live and relate is different to Italy, France, Korea etc. How we respond to authority is also different.

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What age is elderly 50+ 60+--70+

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Just been to the post office people are standing about 6 feet apart in the queue,so the advise is getting through.

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Elderly people are classed as over 70's.

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That’s it. You are now banned (quarantined) from this thread. Sick of your pathetic repetitive nonsense and FYI I do have healthcare qualifications, that are required for the health and social care work I have done for over 25 years. I trust the science and experts. This has absolutely nothing to do with which side of the political fence I reside on.

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With all this panic buying of pasta why are all the pasta sauce shelves still full?

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My kids told me i would have to self isolate for 16 weeks co's i'm old, i'm 63 ,they also told their mum the same she's 51 she was not impressed [and that's putting it mildly];)

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Strange that there are plenty of pasta sauces unless many make their own but personally l doubt many do pip.

My cousin went in Sainsbury's this morning and there was no pasta , no eggs and a few other things but most of our grocery list they still had in stock.

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The time of day might be a bit off, as the free travel with elderly and disabled bus passes doesn't start until 9:30am. An added danger is they will be travelling at the same times as loads of other people at that time in the morning.

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Surely given the situation that time limit can be temporarily suspended.

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But have they? It's an automated checking system, although the driver could wave you through. Still leaves travelling on public transport at a peak time.

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Because carers have their own lives to lead in the outside world, do you think there could be problems with them then going in to care for isolated people?

I have chosen one of my carers to live with me for the duration, but the four months quarantine is now being reported as possibly lasting a year!

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Well actually it’s very frightening Richard because in the last 24 hours, I’ve just been informed that a patient, I had dealings with on Friday, just tested positive for Covid-19.

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Mcdonalds latest advert features Coronas 90's classic Rhythm of the Night. Launched on TV in the past week. Appropriate?

https://youtu.be/_IhoCBTyQPI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b5e1ZBFVKek

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I think i speak for all on here when i say, I hope you're tested promptly and found to be safe.

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Yes, it’s appropriate.

The only people who will say otherwise are the permanently offended thought police that have nothing better to do all day than be outraged on Twatter.

These adverts have long lead times, and the song will have been selected (and covered, because it isn’t Corona’s version they’re using) many months ago.

In other news, Corona beer is still on sale at my local Thresher. Outrage!

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Oh no, let's hope that everbody is ok.

Maybe there is a case for having the same carers live in? But the problem is that there won't be enough staff beds and carers will still need to sleep.

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+1

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The DWP have suspended all face to face assessments for ESA, PIP, DLA for three months.

The free TVL for all over 75's has now been extended until 1 August, I guess that they don't wsnt them going outside to buy a TV licence. In fact, come to think of it, they should also suspend TV licence inspectors from making house visits too.

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The BBC and Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport have issued the following statement on TV Licences for over 75s.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/st...C-A0DFC28169F1

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Are you still going to let out your room for the time being? I'd be wary of allowing strangers into the family home, but there again i'm in poor health and am self isolating.

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They no longer test people unless they’re showing signs of symptoms of Covid-19 and more crucially, have been admitted to hospitals.

The basic advice is that as soon as symptoms show, I’m to go in to self isolation. If symptoms show and I deteriorate further, then that is when I assume I will get admitted, they don’t want people turning up in A & E Departments unless symptoms are a threat to life.

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I thought that testing was going to be made fully available to medical professionals/first responders (similar to how the US intend to act)

Regardless, I hope you stay safe

Best

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Carers are selflessly putting themselves at risk by caring for those who might have the virus. Those who find themselves in a position where they have to self isolate obviously can't attend work.

This will be why volunteers and retired people are to be asked to care for people. However, these good people probably won't have the experience & qualifications that you and your colleagues have, so it will be interesting. They could unintentionally cause damage by not knowing how to use a hoist properly etc.

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That they've detected. Given they aren't screening anyone who isn't seriously ill or dead any longer the real figure is probably a heck of a lot more. The stats on this are meaningless given the testing criteria now.

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For once, I agree with Mr K, he is right. Even the Chief Medical Officer and his team say there is thousands out there with Coronavirus, that just haven’t been detected. Though one thing that is positive for the UK, is that we have tested a hell of a lot more people than the U.S has.

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Our B&B is still operating. We only have self-enclosed units, and due to other pressures we’re only actually using one of them this year - a shepherd’s hut that sits outside our house. It’s a small space, easily wiped down between guests, and I’m only in the space with them for 30 seconds while delivering room service each morning. I don’t even need to do that - with a little thought I could deliver breakfast to the storage locker outside the hut. It will be a little less magical than the big wicker hamper we normally deposit on their bed, but needs must.

Nobody living here is in an at-risk group so I’m not concerned. We will either get it or we won’t. And even though I will welcome a few hundred strangers here during the season (assuming they don’t all start cancelling), that’s still fewer than some of you will see at the station or in your workplaces every day.

The air is very clean in the highlands!

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Living remotely does give you an advantage right now.

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More than 10,000 armed forces staff put on standby over COVID-19 spread.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...andby-11958144

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UK coronavirus cases rise to 1,543 - up by 171.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...y-171-11958319

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SOP would have kicked-in ages ago, with groups isolated and equipped. Groups would be made up of those who had not been infected, those who are infected, and those who have been infected and recovered.

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Growing signs that the over 70's are indignant about being told to self isolate when the time comes.

Reasons include becoming lonely, bored or needing to go out for food as they have nobody else, expressions that this is draconian or an assault to their civil liberties or that they survived the war as soldiers and intend to fight this or ride it out. Some say that they don't care if they get it, with a whatever will be will be attitude.

This mornings Jeremy Vine show featured a doctor who said that they must take this seriously as nobody under the age of 102* has ever seen anything like it as this is no ordinary virus.

* In 1918/19 up to 50 million people died.

What will we do if they refuse to co-operate? Let them die? Use the police/army to escort them back home and keep them there?

What about the over 70's who have something like dementia who tend to go wondering off?

One solution might be to use any spare hotels that aren't being used as makeshift hospitals to alleviate loneliness and have no worries sbout food supplies and effectively put them under house arrest.

The problem with that is that if one of them has the virus, all the rest will probably get it.

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I imagine the exact answer will change based on the current strain on the NHS.

Most will probably be able to survive the virus, if they are seriously ill they will probably be taken to the hospital and treated. Once the NHS is above capacity, however, triage rules come into affect which will mean they will prioritise people most likely to survive.

If shit hits the fan I imagine Boris will send in the army.

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So would you prefer carers, volunteers and retired people to withdraw their services because they don't know how to use a hoist properly?

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No, because an untrained carer is better than not having one at all.

Hopefully they will have enough experienced carers that can deal with matters that require training and the volunteers can deal with things that don't. However, they might not have that luxury...

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I don't think anyone is suggesting this is comparable to Spanish Flu?

in regards to mortality. Yes a lot of people are going to get ill, some of them seriously and then some of them critically but the overwhelming majority will get over it.

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World Health Organisation throws down gauntlet to countries that are not doing enough to test potential cases and says countries must "Test, test, test."

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Coming back to this after watching the latest WHO briefing.


I wonder why when the WHO are saying' Test everybody that shows symptoms' are we not following this path.

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Not enough test kits, not enough trained people to interpret the results, remember this is a new virus and lastly, in the UK's case, if there is over 10,000 people now infected, the NHS will collapse if everyone suddenly swamps A & E Departments with these symptoms.

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Would you agree that the world (and as much as i like to bash Boris it's not just him) has slept walked into this situation? Whilst COVID-19 is relatively new to the western hemisphere. It's been a known issue since late November in China & Hong Kong. (I was temperature scanned in HKG airport at the end of January. whilst on a business trip.)


I can't help but feel there's been a degree of 'It will never happen here' taken by those in charge globally.

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They are now saying that pregnant women are in the higher risk group now as well.

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A war veteran called in to the Jeremy Vine show to say that he survived the war, had had grenades thrown at him etc and that if he got it, he got it. She (in a nice way) told him that he must take this seriously and added that this is the worst pandemic ever for anyone under the age of 102, so I took this to mean that the Spanish flu epedemic was worse, but that this is right behind it in terms of seriousness.

It's been said that about 1/6 of elderly/disabled/ill people will die from this, so whilst what you say is correct, that's a hell of a lot of people and i'm not going to risk it. I'm not afraid of dying, but care about how I leave this Earth when the time comes for me to progress to the spirit world.

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Oh no, they were previously said to be relatively safe. The situation seems to be changing by the hour!

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Just been up to my local Sainsbury's and the place is stripped of all fresh meat, all kinds of potatoes, all tinned meat, beans etc. Bread, eggs, pasta, noodles and a lot of frozen stuff. Such greed and panic. Never seen anything like it. :rolleyes:

I got most of what I needed except an Iceberg lettuce even though a couple of items I got the last but one. Plenty of broccoli though. :D

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Same here all panic this morning because the government is going to lock all old people into their homes for several months :shrug:

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They've just announced that everybody should now cease all social contact and that no unneccesary travel should be undertaken.

They aren't banning mass gatherings, but will no longer support them with emergency services. Pubs won't be closed for now, but people are advised to keep away from pubs, clubs and other social gatherings.

Schools may be closed and nobody should use the NHS unless an emergency.

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Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said 53 people in the UK have now died after testing positive for the coronavirus.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-51903319

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I think that is because a baby has tested positive for COVID-19 and they are not sure of the route of transmission, the womb or normal airborne or touch routes, after his/her birth.

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W.H.O pretty much give the World a shake this afternoon. Specifically to do more tests.

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Glad we are taking the right measures at last.

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There was a pregnant women the other day who had just had a baby and they both tested positive for Coranavirus.

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l think quite a few of the elderly and those with serious underlying conditions knew these measures were inevitable as my Mum and Dad started to self isolate early last week and likewise with myself.

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Canada is now shutting it's borders to non-citizens/residents of the country.

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BREAKING: France expected to announce in the next hour that they are to introduce mandatory curfews starting at 6pm tomorrow night, and may be enforced by their military, according to a French diplomat. The measures are being urged as people flout the restrictions already put in place there.

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As someone who's been watching the leaks from China for 2 months, yes this is exactly what's been happening. If you've watched HBO's chernobly it's been like that in slow motion.

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will this lead to riots on the streets, the French are a funny bunch especially when you threaten them.

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Oh yes, milk goes up a penny and they riot, whereas Brits tend to just sit back and accept things.

I (and the government must) fear something similar happening here, either because of a backlash to government orders or due to food riots. Denphone posted a link about the army being put onto standby earlier today.

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Its mothers day this weekend, people have plans they are not going to give up easily.

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Social Distancing? Hell I've been doing that all my life.

#TheJoysOfAspergers

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With a few exceptions, every contact I have in the pub trade has said that their figures are down. The government has played a blinder here as, because they haven't ordered pubs etc to close, they can't be sought after for compensation. In addition, because they have not been ordered to close, business interruption insurance will not pay out.

However, because they have now said that everyone must cease all social contact and avoid unneccesary travel, I suspect that most venues will not find it cost effective to open.

Adult children tend to take their mothers out for a meal on mother's day, meaning that a sizeable chunk will have a mother who is mature in years.who may now be too afraid to go out to eat.

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:D:D:D

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What seems quite surreal now is still seeing adverts on TV advertising holidays and cruises abroad still.

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That may be the case in England but here in Wales my pass is 24/7. Perhaps N.I. is the same?

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I guess they have paid for the slots and the tv advert schedule was created. So can't really take them out.

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True. Ironically as TV viewing will rocket whilst people are stuck at home, I expect ad revenue to actually fall as there's no point in advertising closed venues and companies hit severe cash flow problems.

The only ones likely to want to advertise will be the likes of Netflix etc. Even companies like VM & Sky won't want to be sending staff into people's homes, even if new customers would allow them inside.

I have a friend who works for Openreach and he says that the Communication Workers Union is considering a plan to request that telephone engineers only do jobs that entail working outside only.

Tesco are to suspend their plastic bag free policy, leave shopping outside and will no longer require customers to sign the electronic device thing that they have.

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China Data (pinch of salt time?)

WHAT ARE THE CORONAVIRUS MORTALITY RATES AMONG DIFFERENT GROUPS?

Conditions

Heart disease: 10.5%
Diabetes: 7.3%
Chronic respiratory disease: 6.3%
High blood pressure: 6%
Cancer: 5.6%
None: 0.9%

Ages

0-9 years: N/A
10-19 years: 0.2%
20-29 years: 0.2%
30-39 years: 0.2%
40-49 years: 0.4%
50-59 years: 1.3%
60-69 years: 3.6%
70-79 years: 8%
Over 80 years: 14.8%

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Totally a precautionary approach, there is no evidence to suggest they are more at risk.

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Well that should be the case in any event.

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Most, if not all, had pre-existing conditions.

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To be fair, if Mrs B was pregnant I'd want her to take every possible precaution.

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A question I have about the high blood pressure figure, and perhaps it also applies to diabetes, is whether those are untreated/badly managed conditions or untreated/managed? IE If you take blood pressure medication, the idea is that you end up not having high blood pressure.

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The engineers could be careful what they touch, and the person could be in another room. Many people need the phone line.

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Just seen a watchparty on Facebook that shows footage of riot police on the London Underground.

I'm hoping to God that this is fake by some idiot, can anyone who is in London put my mind at rest?

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Nothing reported online, so i'm guessing/hoping that it's fake, possibly from a film??

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Sorry to be a dunce but what’s a watchparty?

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They really don't get it, do they?:rolleyes:

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Loads of people watching the same thing at once. I.E You invite a bunch of people around to watch the finale of whatever show. In this case I assume it's a virtual version of it, like people all watching a live show on YouTube or Twitch.

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham...trategy-deaths

Better link is locked behind a FT paywall. The report in question: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imp...16-03-2020.pdf
Not sure if they're relevant to the situation, as in a repeat of the open letter by 'scientists' the other day. Edit: They apparently are, just says they're advising the UK government. So if he was following their advice before and is adapting to continue following it, not sure how a few managed to use it to take a swipe at Boris or the UK. Even in dire times, petty shots here and there, twitter is rife with it.

Formatted from the report, so the general idea of the UK Government still applies and the evidence of why is above. Unless every country with cases remain under complete quarantine until the very last country is done with it then it'll simply just pop back up, or downscale that to a national level like above and the same applies. I have absolutely no relevant experience in any of this, but can understand that closing everything doesn't just make it go away. It is those people however that are helping to stir a decent panic on all forms of social media.

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Update: Without the bait title.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...gy-has-changed

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We’ve just cancelled our meal out at a pub on the Otley Chevin - mum is 91, has various heart and respiratory challenges, so we’re not risking any impact on her.

Anyhoo, stuck in Orlando International Airport (changed flights to fly back tonight, rather than the original Thursday night, luckily just before the US ban on UK/Ireland travel was imposed, which takes effect from midnight tonight (our flight was at 22:25 originally, now 23:50 - the incoming flight from Dublin is getting in just under the wire).

The airport is heaving (everyone (US and other) trying to get home before more travel restrictions come into force), so we have treated ourselves to some passes to the MCO Club - free booze and food, so as well as some nice Bajan Chicken soup and Creole Chicken and rice, I’m getting outside a few glasses of Napa Valley Pinot Noir, and will have a couple of large Cognacs to help me sleep on the eight hour flight to Dublin.

Money well spent (and it’s nice and quiet in here).

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Have they stopped visitors to your mums home? Lots of care homes are now closed to the public to protect the elderly residents.

Here in Yorkshire, many Doctors surgeries have locked their doors too!

What was it like returning back home? I have friends in various places and they say they can't get back to the UK.

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Yes, they have - only essential visitors.

My son went in today (kept a safe distance from Nanna), and set up a tablet so we (and the rest of the family) can Skype her.

We’re not home yet - still in Orlando airport, awaiting our flight home in 3 and a bit hours (hopefully).

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Just curious, but what would be the plan if your flight doesnt happen ?

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Notts total is up from yesterday ;

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What's it like in Orlando (I have a friend who emigrated there to be with her husband)? We spoke yesterday and she said she was a bit frightened.

These are tomorrows headlines and it does say that visits to care homes will now have to stop:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/03/3.jpg

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/03/4.jpg


https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/03/5.jpg

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Plan B - make it up as we go along...

But seriously, we’d find a local hotel/AirBnB, and then find alternative flights, however long it takes - contacted a few local AirBnB homes, and they’re happy to do it on a day by day basis (as their business is tanking at the moment - we cancelled 2 of the 3 days we had booked in St Augustine, and the night we had planned in Titusville, and got refunds for the nights not used - AirBnB policy for the Coronavirus crisis); then claim it back on Holiday Insurance under the Curtailment clause (along with the flight change costs - expecting some full and frank discussions in this...).

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Don't know about Orlando - we drove straight from St Augustine to Orlando International Airport; the airport itself is heaving (even more than usual, according to the TSA staff), and International Arrivals is chaos, with queues of 5-6 hours to get out the airport.

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As long as you get home safely, that's the main thing.

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So, the latest plan is for us all to hide in our homes, but seems to have a bit of a flaw .....

In what universe could we hide away like this for 18 months ?

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l saw this 18 months mentioned in a article l read this morning as 3 months isolation is hard enough one suspects for many.

18 months would be impossible.

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I agree, on Monday Boris said 12 weeks.

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Occurred to me that if people on the same street/road are going to have home deliveries of groceries, it would be more efficient to coordinate for the same day and time slot. Eg Having a van turn up on the same road on 3 successive days or hourly timeslots would be inefficient. More deliveries could be made per day.

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l am no expert on anything but personally the 12 weeks self isolation is a minimum period of self isolation as it would not surprise me one bit if the period of self isolation gets extended in time.

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They're not talking about self-isolation for 12 weeks or 18 months. Self-isolation is for households with somebody who has symptoms and is for 2 weeks.
Link

The self-isolation period might end up being a bit longer if you actually end up getting it. So it might be advisable to plan for up to 3 weeks.

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l am talking about the 12 week self isolation period which the prime minister and his experts stated yesterday for all those all 70 or over and all those with serious underlying medical conditions.

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BBC News:

Those deemed to be exceptionally at risk according to their NHS records will be receiving a letter in about a week telling them what they must do.

All those who get a flu jab for medical reasons must isolate themselves immediately.

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No they didn't. As my link and quote shows, they referred to no social contact, not always staying at home. The further advice is to limit shopping trips.

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You are correct about 12 weeks being the min and as you will no doubt be extended

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Limiting shopping trips could be interesting since all delivery slots round here are taken for next 3 weeks. We have some food in freezer and some rice/pasta but not for that long.
Quick check online and rice prices have increased dramatically if available at all.

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Indeed its very hard to get any delivery slot online as we got one yesterday very luckily with Tesco as Asda , Sainsbury's and Waitrose were fully booked up as far as the delivery slots would go to.

Brazen profiteering is widespread now online with little sign anything is being done about it.

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Local butchers is begging for people to use it. Now offering deliveries. Isn't just about his business surviving but remembering that places other than Asda still exist and have just as much stock as they did three weeks ago.

So rather than go to Asda for this weeks shop I'm probably gonna start using the butcher for meat packs, four for a tenner too in comparison to Asda's three for ten. Sells sacks of Potatoes and the rest of the necessities I can pick up from Spar or even places like home bargains whom up here are still pretty full bar toilet roll. Aldi are restricting purchases too. Ultimately I can avoid people going on like absolute morons.

If it really gets tough there's stuff like Muscle food with availability regarding online orders. I've tried it once. It's alright but naturally it's not to everyone's taste l, the clue being in the name. In times of desperation though. :erm:

The only thing that actually concerns me is the elderly getting what they need when they need it and not facing an empty shelf and infants getting their nappies and formula.

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My, we are Mr Angry aren’t we.

Nobody, from Boris Johnson downwards, has told you you must stay off work, must not use a bus, and must not earn a wage.

The government has asked you to avoid as much social contact as you can. That means not using a bus, if you can. It means working from home, if you can. This is not a vile Tory plot to stiff the working man. This is an attempt to curb the spread of the virus as much as possible so it doesn’t kill a lot of people. You may be fit as a fiddle, but someone you transmit covid-19 to may not be so lucky. So be a good neighbour. If you can.

And my personal advice is, don’t lose your sh*t at such an early stage because you’ll have none left to vent when things get *really* bad. This is still just getting started.

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The list of pre-existing conditions for "social distancing measures" for those under 70 is somewhat larger than the media are reporting.
Link

At least there isn't the French decree where you have to self-issue a "street pass" in order to go outside.
English Translation

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To much panic,

did no one listen to the first thing the CSA said?

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Full story on link.

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I know I've been giving a lot of unsolicited advice in this thread and I am not an MD.

But if you are elderly or at risk I'm going to recommend you watch the news for any new government advice but then TURN IT OFF and do something relaxing or productive. It's just going to be a distressing number going up and up for months and stress is not going to do you any good.

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I am going to find some remote cottage in the Highlands and camp out there until this all blows over.

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:D