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denphone 01-03-2017 15:15

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888000)
I think the difference is that the BBC does not have revenue from advertising factored into what they can and can't do, Den.

Indeed but its still rather disappointing.OB.

muppetman11 01-03-2017 15:44

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ITV do make content available in Catch up for longer than 7 days clearly Virgins current contract only covers 7 days catch up.

Ddonald2016 01-03-2017 19:01

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Well despite promises for end of February no virgin store, no updated TV anywhere app, more false promises

denphone 01-03-2017 19:14

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It did not take long for your discontentment to rear its head again Sir..

OLD BOY 01-03-2017 20:02

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35888044)
Well despite promises for end of February no virgin store, no updated TV anywhere app, more false promises

Stop it, Andrew. Clearly, this was what Virgin were aiming for, but stuff happens. It'll be there soon enough.

BenMcr 01-03-2017 20:53

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35888044)
Well despite promises for end of February no virgin store, no updated TV anywhere app, more false promises

The TV Anywhere app was updated last year. What further update were you expecting?

SonicMaster 02-03-2017 09:15

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35887979)
Well, I'm not going to argue about the apps and VM service being different because clearly, they are. But the main point I was making is that it was the broadcasting companies that named them, not Virgin Media.

---------- Post added at 13:11 ---------- Previous post was at 13:08 ----------

I know that the Sky, Fox and other pay tv channels are 30 days, but is that also the case for the ITV Hub, All4 and My 5 services?

Which has nothing to do with my point that VM are guilty of false advertising. It's fine for VM to advertise that they offer a Catch Up service that includes a selection of programmes from the last 7 days on various channels. It's not okay to for them to say that they provide specific apps that they do not. Many shows are available for much longer than 7 days on their apps.

I'm not surprised that the Virgin Media Store and the Virgin TV kid's app both failed to launch on time, it's typical VM, but still disappointing to see as VM did appear to be getting their act together with regard to their TV service.

BenMcr 02-03-2017 09:53

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'All 4' and 'ITV Hub' are the brand names for the respective content services. It doesn't imply that they're an app or have a certain content availability.

The V boxes still have 'BBC iPlayer' even though the content on there is only for 7 days and SD only - because that's what the BBC brand their catch up service as.

SonicMaster 02-03-2017 10:17

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35888101)
'All 4' and 'ITV Hub' are the brand names for the respective content services. It doesn't imply that they're an app or have a certain content availability.

The V boxes still have 'BBC iPlayer' even though the content on there is only for 7 days and SD only - because that's what the BBC brand their catch up service as.

As a VM employee you can defend them all you like, but it's very clear cut.

VM state:

Appy days
We know great telly can come from anywhere, but Virgin TV brilliantly brings the TV you love together and lets you watch the way you want. Netflix (if you’re a subscriber), YouTube, Vevo – access them all through your TV, as well as free to air catch up players like BBC iPlayer, All4, ITV Hub and even Sky on Demand. It’s the TV you love, the way you want it.


At least they are honest about Channel 5.

Rather than pretending that they offer the My5 app, all Catch Up content for Channel 5, 5STAR, 5USA and Spike is just listed in a folder named Channel 5.

OLD BOY 02-03-2017 10:24

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35888107)
As a VM employee you can defend them all you like, but it's very clear cut.

VM state:

Appy days
We know great telly can come from anywhere, but Virgin TV brilliantly brings the TV you love together and lets you watch the way you want. Netflix (if you’re a subscriber), YouTube, Vevo – access them all through your TV, as well as free to air catch up players like BBC iPlayer, All4, ITV Hub and even Sky on Demand. It’s the TV you love, the way you want it.


At least they are honest about Channel 5.

Rather than pretending that they offer the My5 app, all Catch Up content for Channel 5, 5STAR, 5USA and Spike is just listed in a folder named Channel 5.

As Ben and I have said, the name of the catch up services is down to the TV companies, not Virgin. You are aiming your annoyance at the wrong organisation.

SonicMaster 02-03-2017 10:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888109)
As Ben and I have said, the name of the catch up services is down to the TV companies, not Virgin. You are aiming your annoyance at the wrong organisation.

Oh so VM aren't in control of their own website...? I'm 100% sure that VM don't need to refer to them as apps and include the app logos when they aren't apps.

Anyway, where is your evidence that the broadcasters get to choose the name that VM use for Catch Up services on their platform?

BenMcr 02-03-2017 11:25

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This for instance:

https://www.itvmedia.co.uk/index.php...orce/3333/1437

Quote:

The ITV Hub replaces ITV Player and itv.com across mobile, PC and connected TV to become the new digital destination for all our TV channels and online services.

SonicMaster 02-03-2017 11:47

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35888122)

That's about the re-branding of ITV Player as ITV Hub in 2015, it's nothing to do with the agreement between VM and ITV for access to a selection of ITV shows for 7 days after broadcast. VM never had ITV Player, and in an attempt to make the difference clear the functionality on VM was badged as the ITV Net Player.

theone2k10 02-03-2017 12:35

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35888107)
As a VM employee you can defend them all you like, but it's very clear cut.

VM state:

Appy days
We know great telly can come from anywhere, but Virgin TV brilliantly brings the TV you love together and lets you watch the way you want. Netflix (if you’re a subscriber), YouTube, Vevo – access them all through your TV, as well as free to air catch up players like BBC iPlayer, All4, ITV Hub and even Sky on Demand. It’s the TV you love, the way you want it.


At least they are honest about Channel 5.

Rather than pretending that they offer the My5 app, all Catch Up content for Channel 5, 5STAR, 5USA and Spike is just listed in a folder named Channel 5.

VM and honesty don't tend to go together.

denphone 02-03-2017 12:38

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888138)
VM and honesty don't tend to go together.

Goodness grief no company is perfect but that statement just beggars belief.

theone2k10 02-03-2017 12:40

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888141)
Goodness grief no company is perfect but that statement just beggars belief.

Not really no VM are lying scheming <insert own word here> who falsely put claims against people and mess up credit ratings.
I'm pleased to say i now have a court date in my bid to sue vm for wrongful information they prob won't turn up again just like they didn't when i challenged them over a bill.

You know the odd thing is all this crap started once LG took over vm before that they were a decent company.

BenMcr 02-03-2017 13:39

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35888127)
That's about the re-branding of ITV Player as ITV Hub in 2015, it's nothing to do with the agreement between VM and ITV for access to a selection of ITV shows for 7 days after broadcast. VM never had ITV Player, and in an attempt to make the difference clear the functionality on VM was badged as the ITV Net Player.

This is talking about the previous rebrand in 2008:

https://www.ukfast.co.uk/internet-ne...tv-player.html

Quote:

ITV said that in branding and marketing communication around programming intended for consumption across the UK, as in the case of the BT Vision deal, the online TV player will be branded as "ITV Net Player" and referred to as the "ITV Network Player".
So even then, the naming came from ITV themselves, it wasn't a VM decision.

SonicMaster 02-03-2017 13:51

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35888152)
This is talking about the previous rebrand in 2008:

https://www.ukfast.co.uk/internet-ne...tv-player.html

So even then, the naming came from ITV themselves, it wasn't a VM decision.

But why does that mean VM should be allowed to advertise offering the ITV Hub and All 4 apps when they don't? At the least, they should state that they offer a selection of Catch Up content from ITV and Channel 4, that is also available on the ITV Hub and All 4 apps.

jj20x 02-03-2017 13:58

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35888107)
VM state:

Appy days
We know great telly can come from anywhere, but Virgin TV brilliantly brings the TV you love together and lets you watch the way you want. Netflix (if you’re a subscriber), YouTube, Vevo – access them all through your TV, as well as free to air catch up players like BBC iPlayer, All4, ITV Hub and even Sky on Demand. It’s the TV you love, the way you want it.

I don't see the problem, it clearly states "catch up players" it doesn't make a claim as to how many days are available and certainly doesn't suggest that the full range of "on demand" material is available.

Not all apps are made equal, which ITV Hub app would you prefer VM to carry? The Now TV ITV Hub app, which claims to offer 30 days catch up but doesn't even provide a full week, or the more extensive ITV Hub app that comes with Amazon Fire TV? They certainly aren't the same, nor do they offer the same range of content.

OLD BOY 02-03-2017 16:40

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35888127)
That's about the re-branding of ITV Player as ITV Hub in 2015, it's nothing to do with the agreement between VM and ITV for access to a selection of ITV shows for 7 days after broadcast. VM never had ITV Player, and in an attempt to make the difference clear the functionality on VM was badged as the ITV Net Player.

My dear chap, if ITV and Channel 4 offer services and want to call them ITV Hub and All4, why should they protest? And why should you complain?

I've been to different Sainsbury's stores which don't offer products available in other Sainsbury's stores, but that doesn't mean they aren't Sainsbury's.

Seriously, you need to get over this. Any legal action would fail, so time to move on. If you want to move to Sky, no- one is preventing you, but prepare for a culture shock.

RichardCoulter 02-03-2017 16:43

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888142)
You know the odd thing is all this crap started once LG took over vm before that they were a decent company.

I agree. They tried to overcharge me by £10, instead of just crediting it like I expected, they refused! It took a solicitors letter to get it sorted out, but what about those who don't get free legal advice?

For most people it wouldn't be cost effective to challenge it, but LG obviouslyy think it's worth losing a customer for the sake of a tenner.

This is probably why they now tie customers into a contract everyime they sneeze!

Edit: My solicitor mentioned some sort of regulator if his letter didn't work. Does anybody know their details, as this may help others?

During my efforts to resolve this informally, a manager said that if the regulator became involved, my account would frozen and nothing could be changed. He was being mildly aggressive at this stage, so this could be nonsense designed to put me off from seeking resolution from a third party.

SonicMaster 02-03-2017 16:48

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888183)
My dear chap, if ITV and Channel 4 offer services and want to call them ITV Hub and All4, why should they protest? And why should you complain?

I've been to different Sainsbury's stores which don't offer products available in other Sainsbury's stores, but that doesn't mean they aren't Sainsbury's.

Seriously, you need to get over this. Any legal action would fail, so time to move on. If you want to move to Sky, no- one is preventing you, but prepare for a culture shock.

My dear chap, Sainsbury's, legal action, move to Sky... what on earth are you babbling on about!

I simply share the frustration of others that VM doesn't have the full services that I can get on my PC, phone and tablet, and those with Freeview Play, Freesat Smart, YouView and various games consoles, set top boxes and smart TVs can access.

theone2k10 02-03-2017 17:06

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35888184)
I agree. They tried to overcharge me by £10, instead of just crediting it like I expected, they refused! It took a solicitors letter to get it sorted out, but what about those who don't get free legal advice?

For most people it wouldn't be cost effective to challenge it, but LG obviouslyy think it's worth losing a customer for the sake of a tenner.

This is probably why they now tie customers into a contract everyime they sneeze!

Edit: My solicitor mentioned some sort of regulator if his letter didn't work. Does anybody know their details, as this may help others?

During my efforts to resolve this informally, a manager said that if the regulator became involved, my account would frozen and nothing could be changed. He was being mildly aggressive at this stage, so this could be nonsense designed to put me off from seeking resolution from a third party.

All i'm going to say is there are now far better options than vm and faster broadband than vm too, not in all areas yet but one company i'm keeping a eye on is hyperoptic they seem decent priced and offer upto 1gbs speeds from what i've read 99% of those on 1gbs get 1gbs or just over. vm offer 200mbs however that'll be 2mbs if you're lucky.
TV wise again plenty of option the one who is making big waves as of late is tvplayer which offers a superb package for £4.99pm this includes discovery, history, eurosport, w, alibi and many more.
Imo vm and others need to think about how they treat customers because it's the customers that keep a company floating and what floats can easily sink.

OLD BOY 02-03-2017 17:20

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35888184)
I agree. They tried to overcharge me by £10, instead of just crediting it like I expected, they refused! It took a solicitors letter to get it sorted out, but what about those who don't get free legal advice?

For most people it wouldn't be cost effective to challenge it, but LG obviouslyy think it's worth losing a customer for the sake of a tenner.

This is probably why they now tie customers into a contract everyime they sneeze!

Edit: My solicitor mentioned some sort of regulator if his letter didn't work. Does anybody know their details, as this may help others?

During my efforts to resolve this informally, a manager said that if the regulator became involved, my account would frozen and nothing could be changed. He was being mildly aggressive at this stage, so this could be nonsense designed to put me off from seeking resolution from a third party.

Richard, you couldn't possibly expect us to comment on this because you haven't given us details of your complaint. We have to accept your version of events, and I have to say that when I look at your previous posts, you do seem to be a serial complainer. No offence! The fact that a solicitor's letter got VM to back down does not prove they were wrong, just that it was more trouble than it was worth (£10) to get this resolved.

If a contract is what VM's solicitors have advised to prevent having to give into low value claims, then I'm not surprised to learn that this is now what they are doing. As a businessman yourself, does this not make sense?

For those who are tempted to go down Richard's path, don't think for one moment that Virgin don't know who you are, and don't expect them to do you any favours!

Just sayin'...

---------- Post added at 17:20 ---------- Previous post was at 17:11 ----------

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888194)
All i'm going to say is there are now far better options than vm and faster broadband than vm too, not in all areas yet but one company i'm keeping a eye on is hyperoptic they seem decent priced and offer upto 1gbs speeds from what i've read 99% of those on 1gbs get 1gbs or just over. vm offer 200mbs however that'll be 2mbs if you're lucky.
TV wise again plenty of option the one who is making big waves as of late is tvplayer which offers a superb package for £4.99pm this includes discovery, history, eurosport, w, alibi and many more.
Imo vm and others need to think about how they treat customers because it's the customers that keep a company floating and what floats can easily sink.

You are a very good contributor to this forum, theone, and we are all grateful to you for the nuggets of advice you provide!

I know that you, personally, have issues with VM because of certain past events, but nevertheless, they are a key player and better than most (sorry, my personal opinion slipped in there!).

However, what I would say is that you do go to extreme lengths to get the material you want to see, and most of us are not prepared to expend that effort into what, ultimately, is a (debatable) unlawful means of accessing programmes.

I, for one, have experimented with Kodi, but I find the only worthwhile material is via a vpn, so I'm out!

theone2k10 02-03-2017 17:33

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888195)
Richard, you couldn't possibly expect us to comment on this because you haven't given us details of your complaint. We have to accept your version of events, and I have to say that when I look at your previous posts, you do seem to be a serial complainer. No offence! The fact that a solicitor's letter got VM to back down does not prove they were wrong, just that it was more trouble than it was worth (£10) to get this resolved.

If a contract is what VM's solicitors have advised to prevent having to give into low value claims, then I'm not surprised to learn that this is now what they are doing. As a businessman yourself, does this not make sense?

For those who are tempted to go down Richard's path, don't think for one moment that Virgin don't know who you are, and don't expect them to do you any favours!

Just sayin'...

---------- Post added at 17:20 ---------- Previous post was at 17:11 ----------


You are a very good contributor to this forum, theone, and we are all grateful to you for the nuggets of advice you provide!

I know that you, personally, have issues with VM because of certain past events, but nevertheless, they are a key player and better than most (sorry, my personal opinion slipped in there!).

However, what I would say is that you do go to extreme lengths to get the material you want to see, and most of us are not prepared to expend that effort into what, ultimately, is a (debatable) unlawful means of accessing programmes.

I, for one, have experimented with Kodi, but I find the only worthwhile material is via a vpn, so I'm out!

But aren't you championing that linear tv will soon be dead?
Yes i do have questionable means of obtaining tv but i still have a sub in bt tv (will be gone 14th this month due to price rises) and sky £39.50pm for the lot plus multiscreen, some shows however i have no choice but to torrent/kodi/us tv login (which i pay for it's from a friend in the US) if i wish to watch them as no uk network has picked them up salem being a prime example.
If you don't know what you're doing regarding streaming services then it will never be for you, everyone has their own prefered ways of watching tv many via traditional linear means and many via streaming/on demand services.
Stick with what you're comftable with is my advice if it aint broke then don't fix it.
VM do indeed have a excellent choice in tv and plenty of content and they are showing intent by investing in content too sadly their owners are a bunch of clowns (this is only my opinion though).
Also in my post to Richard i never mentioned any grey area means of getting tv, tvplayer must be legit and have agreements in place with the networks as if not it'd be suffering the same battle catchuptv is wouldn't it?

nialli 02-03-2017 18:26

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888194)
vm offer 200mbs however that'll be 2mbs if you're lucky.

I get over 220mbps most days. In the evening peaks it sometimes slips to around 60mbps for an hour or two but climbs back over 200 by ten.
I'm not suggesting everyone is so lucky but I don't think most are as unfortunate as you suggest either.

Mad Max 02-03-2017 18:56

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888194)
vm offer 200mbs however that'll be 2mbs if you're lucky.


That's sweeping statement to make mate and clearly wrong, I am on 200 Mbs and don't see much drop in performance at anytime of the day, just because some ppl suffer with poor performance doesn't mean everyone does!

denphone 02-03-2017 19:06

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35888212)
That's sweeping statement to make mate and clearly wrong, I am on 200 Mbs and don't see much drop in performance at anytime of the day, just because some ppl suffer with poor performance doesn't mean everyone does!

One once MM l quite agree with your sentiments.:)

theone2k10 02-03-2017 19:29

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35888212)
That's sweeping statement to make mate and clearly wrong, I am on 200 Mbs and don't see much drop in performance at anytime of the day, just because some ppl suffer with poor performance doesn't mean everyone does!

You do realise it was a tongue in cheek comment?

Mad Max 02-03-2017 20:25

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888216)
You do realise it was a tongue in cheek comment?


I didn't actually, and the reason for that is that you are very hard towards VM, ok i understand your reasons for this, but I did think that you were making a genuine comment.

theone2k10 02-03-2017 20:58

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35888223)
I didn't actually, and the reason for that is that you are very hard towards VM, ok i understand your reasons for this, but I did think that you were making a genuine comment.

I'm pretty sure VM won't be crying in their cornflakes at me being hard on them :p:
In fairness to vm when i was with them i had the 100mb bb and it rarely dropped below 98mb so i can honestly say i can't fault them on that however their upload speeds were a joke back then wether or not this has improved i don't know but being a gaming streamer upload speeds were vital for me, BT aint perfect either but with them i'm getting 76mbs d/l and 19mbs u/l rumoured to be increased to 120mb d/l and 40mbu/l this year ut i'm leaving BT anyway due to price rises lol.
If it wasn't through the attitude of the management team and ceo office (who used to be superb before LG took over) chances are i'd still be a vm customer today.
But i can see why you thought the comment was genuine i should really of put a pokey tongue or wink emoji by it.

RichardCoulter 02-03-2017 22:17

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888195)
Richard, you couldn't possibly expect us to comment on this because you haven't given us details of your complaint. We have to accept your version of events, and I have to say that when I look at your previous posts, you do seem to be a serial complainer. No offence! The fact that a solicitor's letter got VM to back down does not prove they were wrong, just that it was more trouble than it was worth (£10) to get this resolved.

If a contract is what VM's solicitors have advised to prevent having to give into low value claims, then I'm not surprised to learn that this is now what they are doing. As a businessman yourself, does this not make sense?

For those who are tempted to go down Richard's path, don't think for one moment that Virgin don't know who you are, and don't expect them to do you any favours!

Just sayin'...

I have no plans to go into great detail about my complaint on here as it's not relevant and I'm not looking for your comments either.

The purpose of my post was to support theone in his belief that CS has deteriorated under LGI. The version of events are as previously stated.

If matters are to my liking, I don't complain, if matters aren't then I do and I expect them to be remedied. I'm sure you wouldn't simply swallow the £10 overcharge, or maybe you would??

My solicitor agreed with my complaint and he is legally trained, so that's good enough for me.

If they decided to roll over because it wasn't worth arguing over a tenner, then why was it not done sooner? By protracting this, they have only served to waste my time and get my back up.

Each time one of their contracts expires, they will now be required to prove that they offer best value. This will take up staff time/resources and possibly reduce their profit.

AFAIK, VM didn't involve their own solicitors, someone simply saw sense, but the damage to goodwill had already been done.

Your last paragraph doesn't really make any sense, what do you mean by saying that VM "know who you are". Of course they do :confused:

Are you also suggesting that VM 'punish' or treat customers less favourably if they do something that meets with their displeasure?? :confused:

Finally, I wouldn't bother with the £50 refer a friend incentive. I've done it twice. The first time took endless contact and 18 months to get paid.

The second time took endless contact and 2.5 years.

After being given false promises, lied to and messed about, it was eventually paid. It really isn't worth the hassle.

OLD BOY 03-03-2017 08:00

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35888241)
I have no plans to go into great detail about my complaint on here as it's not relevant and I'm not looking for your comments either.

The purpose of my post was to support theone in his belief that CS has deteriorated under LGI. The version of events are as previously stated.

If matters are to my liking, I don't complain, if matters aren't then I do and I expect them to be remedied. I'm sure you wouldn't simply swallow the £10 overcharge, or maybe you would??

My solicitor agreed with my complaint and he is legally trained, so that's good enough for me.

If they decided to roll over because it wasn't worth arguing over a tenner, then why was it not done sooner? By protracting this, they have only served to waste my time and get my back up.

Each time one of their contracts expires, they will now be required to prove that they offer best value. This will take up staff time/resources and possibly reduce their profit.

AFAIK, VM didn't involve their own solicitors, someone simply saw sense, but the damage to goodwill had already been done.

Your last paragraph doesn't really make any sense, what do you mean by saying that VM "know who you are". Of course they do :confused:

Are you also suggesting that VM 'punish' or treat customers less favourably if they do something that meets with their displeasure?? :confused:

Finally, I wouldn't bother with the £50 refer a friend incentive. I've done it twice. The first time took endless contact and 18 months to get paid.

The second time took endless contact and 2.5 years.

After being given false promises, lied to and messed about, it was eventually paid. It really isn't worth the hassle.

Surely, Richard, all posts on the forum are subject to comment by others. I saw a need to respond to yours as, not for the first time, you made damaging comments about Virgin Media which I have a feeling are unfair. I like to believe what people say about their experiences, but this was yet another battle of yours in what has become a litany of complaints about a company that, in my experience, has a pretty good record of customer service. Not once have I ever had cause to complain about the company, or indeed its predecessors. The staff have always been polite and have addressed any questions I've had with absolute courtesy. I have not detected the deterioration in service under Liberty Global that you claim has happened.

Honestly, Richard, if you really are concerned about Virgin Media and how they deal with you, it is surprising that you have not moved to another provider, with whom I suspect, you would soon have issues as well.

My comment about VM 'knowing who you are' was merely pointing out that if a customer is rude and demanding, they can't really expect VM to go out on a limb to help them. Politeness goes a long way, I find.

Ultimate.Conj 03-03-2017 09:17

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35888241)

Finally, I wouldn't bother with the £50 refer a friend incentive. I've done it twice. The first time took endless contact and 18 months to get paid.

The second time took endless contact and 2.5 years.

After being given false promises, lied to and messed about, it was eventually paid. It really isn't worth the hassle.

I have used the refer a friend a few times. The first time I admit, it took a phone call for them to credit my £50, but they have been improving. I used this service again in January and the £50 was credited to my account automatically.

SonicMaster 03-03-2017 11:32

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On a more positive note, VM have been doing some housekeeping in the Catch Up and On Demand menus, so it's looking much more professional.

Most of the outdated logos have been updated, folder decriptions have been added, they have fixed graphics and the Movies section has been significantly de-cluttered.

They have also launched their sixth box set in 'Virgin TV Exclusives' for all Full House / XL customers, with the addition of Imposters (shown on Bravo in the US).

theone2k10 03-03-2017 11:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888260)
Surely, Richard, all posts on the forum are subject to comment by others. I saw a need to respond to yours as, not for the first time, you made damaging comments about Virgin Media which I have a feeling are unfair. I like to believe what people say about their experiences, but this was yet another battle of yours in what has become a litany of complaints about a company that, in my experience, has a pretty good record of customer service. Not once have I ever had cause to complain about the company, or indeed its predecessors. The staff have always been polite and have addressed any questions I've had with absolute courtesy. I have not detected the deterioration in service under Liberty Global that you claim has happened.

Honestly, Richard, if you really are concerned about Virgin Media and how they deal with you, it is surprising that you have not moved to another provider, with whom I suspect, you would soon have issues as well.

My comment about VM 'knowing who you are' was merely pointing out that if a customer is rude and demanding, they can't really expect VM to go out on a limb to help them. Politeness goes a long way, I find.

I do agree with BIB even in my anger at vm i remained calm and polite plus if some staff are aiming to get a reaction it annoys them more when they don't get one :D but with all companies always be polite and not demanding for example when bt emailed me about price rises i didn't demand a offer or threaten to leave i simply rang up and said "i'm ringing up about my current price rise and was wondering if there were any offers on my account please?" they made a offer but at the time SKYs offer was far better BT offered me 52mbs for £36.99pm whilst SKY offered the same for £30pm i know skys hub is as useful as a wet paper bag but i can piggy back my own router off it, however i've given BT full permission to contact me should a better offer become available.
Even in my recent emauil to vms CEO trying to sort out this £140 they think i owe still i was polite and including documents that supported and even dropped hints that if it got resolved i may return.
Politeness does go a long way, i've worked in retail and trust me polite custoers make your day so much better the rude customers you don't want to help but will because it's your job, whereas the polite customers i'd go that extra mile to help and love helping them.

Now on a more positive note vm in talks with Sony apparantly, no idea as what yet but ore info when i get it.

jj20x 03-03-2017 14:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888287)
Now on a more positive note vm in talks with Sony apparantly, no idea as what yet but ore info when i get it.

A new TV for the staff break room perhaps? :D

theone2k10 03-03-2017 14:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35888302)
A new TV for the staff break room perhaps? :D

Nah that'll be LG get it? :D
i'll get my coat. :p:

jodash 03-03-2017 16:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35887473)
HVC rumoured to be making a return (i wonder how many remember HVC from the telewest days?) anyway it will be free to full house and above customers and £5pm to other customers, content will be in HD and advert free.

Don't remember HVC not sure what you mean by "full House" but have all
The Channels

Mad Max 03-03-2017 16:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
£5 per month lmfao

RichardCoulter 03-03-2017 18:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888260)
Surely, Richard, all posts on the forum are subject to comment by others. I saw a need to respond to yours as, not for the first time, you made damaging comments about Virgin Media which I have a feeling are unfair. I like to believe what people say about their experiences, but this was yet another battle of yours in what has become a litany of complaints about a company that, in my experience, has a pretty good record of customer service. Not once have I ever had cause to complain about the company, or indeed its predecessors. The staff have always been polite and have addressed any questions I've had with absolute courtesy. I have not detected the deterioration in service under Liberty Global that you claim has happened.

Honestly, Richard, if you really are concerned about Virgin Media and how they deal with you, it is surprising that you have not moved to another provider, with whom I suspect, you would soon have issues as well.

My comment about VM 'knowing who you are' was merely pointing out that if a customer is rude and demanding, they can't really expect VM to go out on a limb to help them. Politeness goes a long way, I find.

You said yourself that you couldn't comment without knowing the full facts, but chose to do so anyway.

Just because you like to gloat over your good experiences, don't assume that it's the same for everyone.

If VM don't like "damaging comments" from customers, they should get their act together.

As already explained, because of this shoddy behaviour, they will now be required to prove that they offer the best overall value as each contract expires. I will no longer be blindly supporting the underdog because of my dislike of Sky as they are becoming as bad.

Fortunately, as theone says, they are not longer the only players in town.

To quash your implication that I was rude or demanding, I was not- in fact most communication has been done by a third-party. I suggest that you refrain from making such false allegations against me (this is the second time that you've tried this).

Once again, I will point out that staff of every organisation should be professional and mature at all times regardless of how they perceive that they are being spoken to.

If they believe that they are being abused in some way, there will be policies & procedures to deal with this. Thankfully, most people I've come across don't share your view that petty revenge is the solution. In fact, if this ever took place, the staff member may find themselves in trouble with their employer and/or the law eg some people express themselves in an unusual manner due to disability.

Your blind support for VM isn't normal behaviour. They aren't a friend, neighbour or a relative, they are simply a utility provider and nothing more.

I hope that you aren't one of those people who ring their free number just for someone to talk to. This was the reason that everybody had to start paying to contact them (though thankfully this policy was reversed).

This £10 business was a charge that directly discriminated against disabled people.

Even after having it spelled out to them and the possible consequences should I take legal action, it was like talking to a brick wall.

Thankfully, those with more intelligence further up the pecking order saw sense and refunded me after abolishing this charge.

---------- Post added at 18:47 ---------- Previous post was at 18:34 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888287)
I do agree with BIB even in my anger at vm i remained calm and polite plus if some staff are aiming to get a reaction it annoys them more when they don't get one :D but with all companies always be polite and not demanding for example when bt emailed me about price rises i didn't demand a offer or threaten to leave i simply rang up and said "i'm ringing up about my current price rise and was wondering if there were any offers on my account please?" they made a offer but at the time SKYs offer was far better BT offered me 52mbs for £36.99pm whilst SKY offered the same for £30pm i know skys hub is as useful as a wet paper bag but i can piggy back my own router off it, however i've given BT full permission to contact me should a better offer become available.
Even in my recent emauil to vms CEO trying to sort out this £140 they think i owe still i was polite and including documents that supported and even dropped hints that if it got resolved i may return.
Politeness does go a long way, i've worked in retail and trust me polite custoers make your day so much better the rude customers you don't want to help but will because it's your job, whereas the polite customers i'd go that extra mile to help and love helping them.

Now on a more positive note vm in talks with Sony apparantly, no idea as what yet but ore info when i get it.

Yep, Sony are to launch new channels. SAB (Asian stuff) is to be made available in the UK.

New English channels include Sony Mix and others. I'll try and find out what they are ;)

theone2k10 03-03-2017 20:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
US broadcaster Comet rumoured to be launching a uk channel on freeview, sky and wait for it......... VM.
Comet tv is a sci fi channel that shows classic sci fi shows such as Quantum leap, stargate sg1 it also airs classic sci fi movies such as robocop and the terminator.

Ddonald2016 03-03-2017 20:42

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35888072)
The TV Anywhere app was updated last year. What further update were you expecting?

Well to start with the 3G 4g update for streaming would be a good start

---------- Post added at 20:42 ---------- Previous post was at 20:41 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888062)
Stop it, Andrew. Clearly, this was what Virgin were aiming for, but stuff happens. It'll be there soon enough.

First of all I don't like to be told to stop it as this is a forum. Virgin are the ones who made these comments and promises not me

RichardCoulter 03-03-2017 21:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888382)
US broadcaster Comet rumoured to be launching a uk channel on freeview, sky and wait for it......... VM.
Comet tv is a sci fi channel that shows classic sci fi shows such as Quantum leap, stargate sg1 it also airs classic sci fi movies such as robocop and the terminator.

Ooohhhh sounds interesting...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35888389)
First of all I don't like to be told to stop it as this is a forum. Virgin are the ones who made these comments and promises not me

I suspect that a lot of his vexatious & antagonistic comments are purposely designed to stir things up on the forum.

He has form if you can be bothered to look through his past posts.

Aguero9320 03-03-2017 21:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35888403)
Ooohhhh sounds interesting...



I suspect that a lot of his vexatious & antagonistic comments are purposely designed to stir things up on the forum.

He has form if you can be bothered to look through his past posts.

Were you being sarcastic about the new channel, Rich. Or are you looking forward to it?

OLD BOY 04-03-2017 00:59

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35888352)
You said yourself that you couldn't comment without knowing the full facts, but chose to do so anyway.

Just because you like to gloat over your good experiences, don't assume that it's the same for everyone.

If VM don't like "damaging comments" from customers, they should get their act together.

As already explained, because of this shoddy behaviour, they will now be required to prove that they offer the best overall value as each contract expires. I will no longer be blindly supporting the underdog because of my dislike of Sky as they are becoming as bad.

Fortunately, as theone says, they are not longer the only players in town.

To quash your implication that I was rude or demanding, I was not- in fact most communication has been done by a third-party. I suggest that you refrain from making such false allegations against me (this is the second time that you've tried this).

Once again, I will point out that staff of every organisation should be professional and mature at all times regardless of how they perceive that they are being spoken to.

If they believe that they are being abused in some way, there will be policies & procedures to deal with this. Thankfully, most people I've come across don't share your view that petty revenge is the solution. In fact, if this ever took place, the staff member may find themselves in trouble with their employer and/or the law eg some people express themselves in an unusual manner due to disability.

Your blind support for VM isn't normal behaviour. They aren't a friend, neighbour or a relative, they are simply a utility provider and nothing more.

I hope that you aren't one of those people who ring their free number just for someone to talk to. This was the reason that everybody had to start paying to contact them (though thankfully this policy was reversed).

This £10 business was a charge that directly discriminated against disabled people.

Even after having it spelled out to them and the possible consequences should I take legal action, it was like talking to a brick wall.

Thankfully, those with more intelligence further up the pecking order saw sense and refunded me after abolishing this charge.

Well, what an outburst, Richard!

My point about not knowing the full facts of your problem was that you were trying to gain sympathy by supplying a limited amount of information about your problem which was clearly a very one-sided version of events. When I started reading about your problems some time back I was sympathetic, but having read through such a huge number of what appear to be attention seeking issues, I have realised that you are taking us all for fools.

I don't know why you expect VM to fall over themselves to appease you, you are not that important. Your constant references to the Equalities Act rather betrays your angle on all this, and I am sure I'm not the only one to squirm as you raise this time and again for every issue as if you want us to believe that you are a victim here.

You say that I have 'blind support' for Virgin Media. I don't! Read my posts. I have been critical of their failure to maximise content for a start - have you not been paying attention? And why do you suggest that I advocate 'petty revenge'? I'm not sure what you are on, but can I have some?

Just to clarify: clearly, we all have our own experiences. But when one's own experience has been positive over 20 years, and then someone sticks their head up and comes out with whinge after whinge, I think one can be forgiven for thinking "what the..."!

The credibility problem you have, Richard, is that despite all the competition, and despite all your complaints, you remain with Virgin Media. That says everything to me. If you consider Sky or BT to be a step too far, it can't be that bad, can it?

---------- Post added at 00:59 ---------- Previous post was at 00:52 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35888403)



I suspect that a lot of his vexatious & antagonistic comments are purposely designed to stir things up on the forum.

He has form if you can be bothered to look through his past posts.

The words pot and kettle come to mind.

I have absolutely no intention of stirring anything up, Richard, you are far more skilled than I at that game.

Please re-read my posts. I have been pretty positive throughout, but I will not put up with unjustified criticisms, trolls or whingers.

Now, please, let's get this thread back on track, can we? Your complaint had nothing to do with what's coming soon on Virgin Media. I'd much rather be writing about that.

OLD BOY 04-03-2017 11:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Some more news here on the launch of STV2. This channel will be available to Scottish Virgin Media customers, but those of us living outside of Scotland probably will not.

Of all the local channels already launched and still to come, this one will probably be the most successful.

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/03/s...-ahead-of.html

Mad Max 04-03-2017 12:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888460)
Some more news here on the launch of STV2. This channel will be available to Scottish Virgin Media customers, but those of us living outside of Scotland probably will not.

Of all the local channels already launched and still to come, this one will probably be the most successful.

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/03/s...-ahead-of.html

Oh dear, another load of dross imo.............:rolleyes::sleep:

OLD BOY 04-03-2017 13:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35888474)
Oh dear, another load of dross imo.............:rolleyes::sleep:

Possibly, but it sounds like better quality dross than we will be getting south of the border!

RichardCoulter 04-03-2017 17:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888435)
Well, what an outburst, Richard!

My point about not knowing the full facts of your problem was that you were trying to gain sympathy by supplying a limited amount of information about your problem which was clearly a very one-sided version of events. When I started reading about your problems some time back I was sympathetic, but having read through such a huge number of what appear to be attention seeking issues, I have realised that you are taking us all for fools.

I don't know why you expect VM to fall over themselves to appease you, you are not that important. Your constant references to the Equalities Act rather betrays your angle on all this, and I am sure I'm not the only one to squirm as you raise this time and again for every issue as if you want us to believe that you are a victim here.

You say that I have 'blind support' for Virgin Media. I don't! Read my posts. I have been critical of their failure to maximise content for a start - have you not been paying attention? And why do you suggest that I advocate 'petty revenge'? I'm not sure what you are on, but can I have some?

Just to clarify: clearly, we all have our own experiences. But when one's own experience has been positive over 20 years, and then someone sticks their head up and comes out with whinge after whinge, I think one can be forgiven for thinking "what the..."!

The credibility problem you have, Richard, is that despite all the competition, and despite all your complaints, you remain with Virgin Media. That says everything to me. If you consider Sky or BT to be a step too far, it can't be that bad, can it?

---------- Post added at 00:59 ---------- Previous post was at 00:52 ----------

The words pot and kettle come to mind.

I have absolutely no intention of stirring anything up, Richard, you are far more skilled than I at that game.

Please re-read my posts. I have been pretty positive throughout, but I will not put up with unjustified criticisms, trolls or whingers.

Now, please, let's get this thread back on track, can we? Your complaint had nothing to do with what's coming soon on Virgin Media. I'd much rather be writing about that.

And I wont tolerate the likes of you following me round the forum making discriminatory remarks or harassing the severely disabled.

I have taken screenshots and will be seeking advice. Check your PM.

If you are unable to trust yourself from doing this; you should put me on ignore.

Cable Forum 04-03-2017 20:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35888530)
And I wont tolerate the likes of you following me round the forum making discriminatory remarks or harassing the severely disabled.

I have taken screenshots and will be seeking advice. Check your PM.

If you are unable to trust yourself from doing this; you should put me on ignore.



This ends right now or I shall start handing out forced forum breaks.

Richard this obsession you have of accusing people of following you and abusing you, because you have a disability really has to stop, you are not being persecuted . No-one has made discriminatory remarks on this forum to you or against you.

You have to accept people have opposing views to you, you cannot force people to agree with you.

I do NOT want to see any more bickering in this thread or I shall start handing out forum breaks.

Back to the topic!

Mad Max 04-03-2017 21:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35888474)
Oh dear, another load of dross imo.............:rolleyes::sleep:


How the hell can "better dross" be good OB? :D

Paul 05-03-2017 00:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35888530)
I have taken screenshots and will be seeking advice. Check your PM.

If you threaten any member of this forum like this again, I will terminate your account immediately.

OLD BOY 05-03-2017 00:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35888585)
How the hell can "better dross" be good OB? :D

Oh, I don't think it's good, old chap, just better! You have to look on the bright side! :D

denphone 05-03-2017 05:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35888629)
Oh, I don't think it's good, old chap, just better! You have to look on the bright side! :D

Its all in the eye of the beholder as they say OB.:D

Dave42 05-03-2017 19:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
seems like it all quite in the VM world at the moment

denphone 05-03-2017 19:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35888713)
seems like it all quite in the VM world at the moment

Perhaps its the deep breath before the plunge Dave.;)

muppetman11 05-03-2017 20:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888718)
Perhaps its the deep breath before the plunge Dave.;)

The days of many channel launches has long since past , I'd expect to see numbers decrease over time.

denphone 06-03-2017 04:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35888720)
The days of many channel launches has long since past , I'd expect to see numbers decrease over time.

You have been listening too much to the wise and venerable OB too much MM.;):D

RichardCoulter 06-03-2017 07:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35888352)
Yep, Sony are to launch new channels. SAB (Asian stuff) is to be made available in the UK.

New English channels include Sony Mix and others. I'll try and find out what they are ;)

Sony Pal and Sony Max 2 are the others.

Colors are looking to go on Freeview, so I wonder if this will go down to M/Player??

muppetman11 06-03-2017 07:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888757)
You have been listening too much to the wise and venerable OB too much MM.;):D

Put simply Den more and more channels isn't sustainable.

denphone 06-03-2017 08:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35888764)
Put simply Den more and more channels isn't sustainable.

Well l am sure your crystal ball never lets you down MM with your Nostradamus like predictions.;)

muppetman11 06-03-2017 08:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888767)
Well l am sure your crystal ball never lets you down MM with your Nostradamus like predictions.;)

Well Tru TV was a raging success wasn't it.;)

theone2k10 06-03-2017 12:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888767)
Well l am sure your crystal ball never lets you down MM with your Nostradamus like predictions.;)

Sorry mate but i agree with MM and OB linear channels will decline over time, it won't disappear completely but i'd say around 50% will go or move towards online only it just isn't substanable anymore to have multiple linear channels, trutv is a prime example of this as is motors tv too.

denphone 06-03-2017 12:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
lm would not hold up trutv or Motors TV as a prime example as some channels have always come and gone in the last 20 years.

OLD BOY 06-03-2017 12:50

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888805)
lm would not hold up trutv or Motors TV as a prime example as some channels have always come and gone in the last 20 years.

There's not enough decent content to justify more channels, Den, and people will eventually tire of seeing back to back repeats of repeats of Container Wars, Women Who Kill, Tattoo nightmares and the like. On these dreadful channels, the commercials are the highlight of the evening.

All the good US imports will be sucked up by global operators, such as Netflix and Amazon, with Sky putting on those it can grab onto Sky Atlantic. There will be very few spoils for the other channels other than what they make themselves. The quality (I use the term mockingly) of Channel 5 will deteriorate and there will be nothing at all worth watching on there before long.

It is no longer the case that I get excited by new channels. Given the growth of on demand viewing, it's access to content I look for these days.

Ultimate.Conj 06-03-2017 13:43

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
BT Sport has extended its Champions League deal
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39177581

Hopefully VM can get another deal sorted to keep BT Sports & ESPN as part of the bundle with Full House/VIP deals

denphone 06-03-2017 13:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35888822)
BT Sport has extended its Champions League deal
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39177581

Hopefully VM can get another deal sorted to keep BT Sports & ESPN as part of the bundle with Full House/VIP deals

Well indeed that is the vexed question UC as no doubt BT will be asking for considerably more then last time.

theone2k10 06-03-2017 13:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888805)
lm would not hold up trutv or Motors TV as a prime example as some channels have always come and gone in the last 20 years.

It's happening time to stop burying your head in the sand tv is evolving, no doubt linear tv will still be strong but over time channels will reduce and i will stand by my prediction of 50% wether or not it'll be that will remain to be seen.

denphone 06-03-2017 14:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888825)
It's happening time to stop burying your head in the sand tv is evolving, no doubt linear tv will still be strong but over time channels will reduce and i will stand by my prediction of 50% wether or not it'll be that will remain to be seen.

Not sticking my head in the sand at all :p: as you and others must remember what people predict and what actually happens can be very different in reality.;)

theone2k10 06-03-2017 14:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888829)
Not sticking my head in the sand at all :p: as you and others must remember what people predict and what actually happens can be very different in reality.;)

Ofcourse, it's only predictions who knows what will happen in the future we might have hologram tv yet :p:

denphone 06-03-2017 14:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888831)
Ofcourse, it's only predictions who knows what will happen in the future we might have hologram tv yet :p:

And no doubt like 3D it will be a wondrous success.

dodgem22 06-03-2017 14:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Got to say they are struggling for decent content now especially on the documentary channels it is a real shame that the quality of programs on History, National Geographic and Discovery has gone to the pits Ancient Aliens etc no thanks I hope they return to some quality documentaries soon but I doubt it.

I dont think any new channels are coming soon really.

Ultimate.Conj 06-03-2017 14:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888823)
Well indeed that is the vexed question UC as no doubt BT will be asking for considerably more then last time.

I feel a price rise coming lol :angel::D

denphone 06-03-2017 15:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35888837)
I feel a price rise coming lol :angel::D

Absolutely.

Dave42 06-03-2017 15:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35888837)
I feel a price rise coming lol :angel::D

that is a certainty prices only ever go up

theone2k10 06-03-2017 15:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35888837)
I feel a price rise coming lol :angel::D

April ;)

1andrew1 06-03-2017 15:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
VM may have to pay for the ITV channel which it currently gets free.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...-virgin-media/

OLD BOY 06-03-2017 17:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35888843)
VM may have to pay for the ITV channel which it currently gets free.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...-virgin-media/

That puts the cat amongst the pigeons for sure. I wonder if ITV would really go so far as to black out Virgin Media's screens given VM's stance that they will not pay for the channel. Are they really going to risk audience share in that way, which would impact on advertising revenues?

I'm not sure how many VM viewers have a connection to a working aerial, but I suspect quite a few rely on the cable only for their TV.

Bob 06-03-2017 17:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Why would that move no affect Sky as well? Are they not doing the same thing?

denphone 06-03-2017 18:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 35888855)
Why would that move no affect Sky as well? Are they not doing the same thing?

Yes l quite agree as it would affect Sky just as much.

vincerooney 06-03-2017 18:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
so the worst news happened. BT keep the champions league and for some bizarre reason PAID more even though the ratings have been disgusting.

So likelyhood of BT sport staying in the xl package? slim as BT will demand more money now. So its either removed or another huge price hike with vm

sky sports still will keep going up...

if only sky could have got the rights! probably would have bumped it up by two odd quid but since theyre going to do that anyway id rather it have gone to sky... bt would have less rights and probably stayed in xl...and we'd have no michael owen

muppetman11 06-03-2017 18:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Sorry but don't agree with this , ITV as a PSB enjoys prominence on the first page of Virgins EPG and as such doesn't pay for its slot.

1andrew1 06-03-2017 18:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35888863)
Sorry but don't agree with this , ITV as a PSB enjoys prominence on the first page of Virgins EPG and as such doesn't pay for its slot.

This is ITV's argument. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...n-channel.html

alwaysabear 06-03-2017 18:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35888863)
Sorry but don't agree with this , ITV as a PSB enjoys prominence on the first page of Virgins EPG and as such doesn't pay for its slot.

Absolutely agree as ITV is a PSB.:(

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888857)
Yes l quite agree as it would affect Sky just as much.

Yes Sky has to be effected as well.

muppetman11 06-03-2017 18:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35888866)

Sky's response
Quote:

Graham McWilliam, group director of corporate affairs said: “ITV wants to keep the very significant benefits of its public service broadcaster status while cherry-picking from the fundamentally different US market.

“If additional charges were introduced, the reality is that millions of households would end up paying for public service channels that are supposed to be free."
Virgins Response
Quote:

Tom Mockridge, Virgin Media’s chief executive officer, said: "The law requires public service broadcasters to make some channels available to cable and satellite companies and equally requires that we make them available to our subscribers. This system has worked well for decades. Viewers already pay one TV tax. ITV is asking for another.”
I fully agree with both of them.

RichardCoulter 06-03-2017 18:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35888863)
Sorry but don't agree with this , ITV as a PSB enjoys prominence on the first page of Virgins EPG and as such doesn't pay for its slot.

AFAIK none of them pay for their EPG slot, it's included in the carriage deal.

theone2k10 06-03-2017 19:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 35888855)
Why would that move no affect Sky as well? Are they not doing the same thing?

Not sure but i think SKY have shares in ITV.

1andrew1 06-03-2017 19:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888876)
Not sure but i think SKY have shares in ITV.

Keep up. :D Sky sold its shares to LGI some time ago! https://www.wsj.com/articles/liberty...kyb-1405578714

Media Boy UK 06-03-2017 19:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35888866)

But that story is from September 2014.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35888878)
Keep up. :D Sky sold its shares to LGI some time ago! https://www.wsj.com/articles/liberty...kyb-1405578714

And now own just under 10% (9.9%)

denphone 06-03-2017 19:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888876)
Not sure but i think SKY have shares in ITV.

Your sources is supplying with you with dud not up to date information.;):D

Horizon 06-03-2017 20:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35888843)
VM may have to pay for the ITV channel which it currently gets free.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...-virgin-media/

Let's wait and see what happens....

Brexit, or the start of it, will begin in a few weeks. This may cause another shock to the financial markets and the pound may plunge again. If the pound does fall again, this will make ITV extremely cheap to foreign investors especially those in America. And I can think of one American investor who may then swoop on ITV.

1andrew1 06-03-2017 21:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35888879)
But that story is from September 2014.)

Agreed, but the Telegraph's article today links back to it so I'm assuming it's still valid.

theone2k10 06-03-2017 21:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888882)
Your sources is supplying with you with dud not up to date information.;):D

Where did i say it was a source? i said "i think."

1andrew1 06-03-2017 21:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35888890)
Where did i say it was a source? i said "i think."

Den's just jealous of you having real sources. Like Den, I've just got HP and Heinz. :D

theone2k10 06-03-2017 22:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35888891)
Den's just jealous of you having real sources. Like Den, I've just got HP and Heinz. :D

I prefer daddies and chilli :D

denphone 07-03-2017 04:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35888891)
Den's just jealous of you having real sources. Like Den, I've just got HP and Heinz. :D

l prefer the old chutney myself..:p:

vincerooney 07-03-2017 09:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Why is that article just mentioning how ITV is going to charge virgin media. Why not sky?

theone2k10 07-03-2017 11:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35888927)
Why is that article just mentioning how ITV is going to charge virgin media. Why not sky?

I think VM will be fine ITV seem to be getting quite arrogant as off late which is laughable consider how poor the content is across the ITV channels.

Bofrok 07-03-2017 11:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35888837)
I feel a price rise coming lol :angel::D

On a football forum yesterday someone with BT said he received an email about 3 weeks ago informing him that BT Sport is going up £5 from August onwards.


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