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I watched it for the first 20 minuits and gave up. Seems the Telegraph and others seem to agree


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...esented-by-fa/

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-.../Top-Gear-poll
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...-motoring-cars
http://www.theweek.co.uk/top-gear/65...reboot-be-like
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvs...-Clarkson.html
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...ew-series-live

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To be fair to the BBC they didn't 'kill the show'. Let's not forget Clarkson assaulted a co-worker. It's not like they had a choice.

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Correct but they had the chance to update it and it seems they have not done that. I now await the other show on amazon to see how that is rated.

On a personal note glad to see my assessment of Evans needs no change :)

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By heck old bean you have certainly gone through a pretty thorough newspaper review this morning.:D

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You seem to need it to fail, really badly. Are you going to tell us what Chris Evans did to you?

Meanwhile, the Telegraph's TV critic actually gave it 4/5. The article you linked to is their report on the "Twitter reaction". Surely by now everyone knows the last thing you read if you want a balanced view of public opinion is anything with the word Twitter in the title.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/0...-to-tried-and/

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May I congratulate you on lasting 20 mins. I have just watched it on the iplayer and lasted about 3 minutes. Its absolutely ghastly.

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Normal thing when your 18 a small beer created indecent in a pub between 2 groups of blokes over a pool game.

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Wanted to make sure i covered the bases :)

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Indeed :)

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You can't really revue based on one episode ,if we did that then the original show would not have lasted past the first season .Hammond only just made it to the second season and May was rubbish when he started .

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Matt need to find his presenting feet

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I actually enjoyed it, yes its not perfect but it was the first episode.

Over time they will tweak it and change things to make it better.

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Personally i think it will not go further than this season.

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After watching it, I think they should rename it "Yet Another Chris Evans Show".

He gets right up my nose, but I don't know why.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_...lines/36411427 :LOL:

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I agree Chris Evans is a pain I the backside and the BBC should not waste licence payers money on such rubbish.

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Watch it I did. First impressions? Matt Leblanc appears to have the passion for cars of all kinds that the original 3 have and I think a good top gear presenter needs. Evans did not, only seeming to find the muscle and super cars interesting. Sabine Schmidtz could have been interesting but wasn't in it much.

It was an OK start, but I think it needs a lot of work, and based on last night's show, I am not sure Chris Evans is the best man for the job.
I do think he is good on radio, and an OK TV presenter, but he did not do a good job last night.

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Chris Evans is genuinely nuts about cars.

http://www.carfest.org

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Absolutely beyond awful..........

I lasted 30 minutes before deleting the series link.

The only things changed were the presenters, Evans is still an irritating twit, Leblanc seems a complete dud and Shmitt was almost nowhere to be seen.

The original show was almost dead on it's feet. just living on the wit and interplay between Clarkson and Co. By just substituting the presenters without re-booting the show the Beeb are left with a Corpse and 3 Duds.

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I know that, but that is not the impression I got from the show.

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Yes they did, they chose to sack him. They didn't have to.

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What they've tried to do is copy (albeit tweaked slightly) the format but without the chemistry between the original presenters and that's why, IMHO, it didn't work. They'd have done better to come up with something new and fresh, ditching what went before. TG was due a major revamp and if the Beeb was going to remove JC (and his chums) they should have taken the opportunity to do so. I won't be watching episode 2.

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I knew it was gonna be a dud with Kris evans at the helm. Apart from hosting the Big Breakfast hes mainly known for radio work now.

His appearance and attitude and just the general package he is that is offered up to us by the BBC just doesnt work. It would have been better if they just put someone on there that didnt know anything about cars and rambled atleast it would be funny to watch.

If they ditch Evans i wonder who they will bring in?

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Alan Partridge? :D

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As I've said several times; Louise Brady. :Yes:

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I am pretty sure it would be hard for an employer to justify not firing someone who had assaulted a co-worker. Might even leave them liable to be sued.

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I keep seeing this in the papers, they didn't fire or sack him they let his contract run out and didn't renew it.

There is a huge difference.

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Chris Evans was well known for TFI Friday and Don't forget your toothbrush as well back in the 90s. I've never found him annoying but then I don't mind James Cordon either.

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Mr Evans' has a voice like that little rattle in your car that you can't quite find to fix. Sort of just on the edge of hearing but definitely there. And only there above 30mph so you can't find it when stationary.

They tried to emulate the previous too much without the chemistry that made the previous work.

And now extending the "star in a car" seems to break the original idea where some stars are used to driving and have fabulous motors to put them in something "Joe public" can afford makes it more interesting. To give them a rally stage is not something "Joe public" will normally encounter.

But it's Mr Evans' voice.

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The new Top Gear is the best advert for why you will need a Amazon Fire stick and subscription :LOL:

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some say its crap-and on that bombshell :)

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Not having a conversation with myself here, but trying to make the point a bit more clearly.

I always get the impression with Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May that beyond all the mucking around they did on the show, they have a deep and lasting love for cars of all kinds, old and new. OK, so given the choice between a new Bugatti Veyron and a clapped out MG, they'd pick the Veyron, but I felt they loved the MG as well. I got that impression to some extent from Matt Leblanc (and later read he initially trained as a mechanic which would bear that out somewhat), but I got the impression that Chris Evans was only interested in the high end sports and super cars..

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More fun than the new show


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbbkDiuz9fw

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Anything is better than Flop Gear ;)

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Hmm, well, I sort of quite enjoyed the latest episode with the R8 V10, Focus RS and the drive around London. I'll get me coat...:tiptoe:

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It seems to be finding its feet.

Quite a few people I know enjoyed it this week.

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Personally l don't like Clarkson's arrogance sometimes when he opens his mouth but he sure is a far better TG presenter then Chris Evans in my opinion.

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Found this today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdzX1o6jKaA

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It need 3 presenters, 2 to gang up on 1 and Clarkson and co did.

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Le Blanc
Harris
and the other guy whose name i forget (the guy that drove the new Focus RS the other week)

Neither Sabine or Chris seem to fit IMO

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I have to say I agree. I don't think Chris fits in at all, and while I think Sabine could (she did work quite well the few times she was on Clarkson's Top Gear), I don't think she fits in at the moment. Maybe it's because they haven't got used to each other, and maybe she needs to appear a few more times before she starts to fit in. I don't know.

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One of the chemistries in the Clarkson ear was that they were 3 men from middle England and so had more opportunity to deride things they didn't like/understand because of gender, race, language, upbringing, culture. Imagine a bemused sort of look at a car that comes in pink.

Much harder to get a banter going if parts of the team are "different". But not impossible, needs a lot more work though, especially with Sabine whose first language isn't English. Just think of you learning a foreign language as an adult, you keep thinking in your home language and its idiom and that like doesn't work in the target language.

One thing I'd change other than gagging Chris is the star in a car. The new format doesn't give the star much focus or time as there are 2 of them and the voting on the best car at different stages in the stars driving history.

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3 presenters, not the 5, 6 or 7 it seems to have. It's hemorrhaging viewers still but expect a second series regardless due to the unique way the bbc is funded they can afford to throw 600k down the toilet every episode and not give a toss.

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They will care if things don't improve but unlike commercial TV they can take more chances (and should do), but there is a point where they won't fund further. On commercial TV if numbers dropped so would funding -> more viewers leaving and so on.

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The BBC are so arrogant that they will never accept that they got something wrong. Expect them to soldier on hemoraging viewers to the bitter end.:(

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Chris Evans isn't coming back for the next series.

I doubt he will be missed by anyone. His presenting style just doesn't work with top gear.

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Good

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thank god lol this has really cheered me up, tbh they need to have leblanc as the main and get two others to bounce off him and they also need to get rid of eddie jordon as he really does m head in

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Will Jeremy be invited back.;)

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Aren't the 3 original presenters doing some show on Amazon?

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Excellent news :D

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He has to resign from the Labour Party first.

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Well l will let you talk to him first as he is likely to listen to you more then he will listen to me.;)

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So you will start to watch it again now old bean?.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36707266

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Rat deserts sinking ship. It's his own fault for not changing the format and assuming his 'charisma' would be enough. Looks like the show is doomed unless they DO something.

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Depends on who will be the presenters i liked the original show because of the presenters and the on screen dicking about, there is none of that from what i saw in the first episode. It was all about a guy who shouts allot and has a bad attitude to everyone and everything. End of the day it is still Flop Gear unless they fix the many issues they have.

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It's just Top Gear by name only, no matter what they do to get back the viewing figures. It'll never be the same without the three stooges. :)

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Totally irrelevant 'news' and why it's in Current Affairs is a mystery.

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i find it relevant

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It's a developing story...

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Perhaps because those in charge are quite happy it falls under Current Affairs.

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With Matt taking the lead, for the "Star in a rally cross car" bit he should bring in some "Friends" :D

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I am so looking forward to this



http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...-top-gear-ever

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Agreed sounds good. I am lucky to have 4K 58" TV and streaming 4K is simply stunning.

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4k/top gear/clarkson..... Mega yawwnn......

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Each to their own ;)

If we were all the same life would be very boring.

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Matt LeBlanc signs 2 series deal for Top Gear.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37470962

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Oh dear, well at least it's not Alan Yentob... :D

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Well l am sure he will boost the viewing figures for the BBC going forward.

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I have signed up for Amazon Prime so I can watch the Grand tour, Top gear on the BBC is dead no matter who is the star.

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I didn't watch any of the last top gear.

When's the clarkson one being aired?

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The Grand Tour starts on Amazon Prime on November 18

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We order quite a bit from Amazon so having Amazon Prime and paying that little bit more is well worth it as they have some decent stuff on Amazon Prime so its a nice little extra for not a lot more cash.

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:tu:

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I actually like the three presenters they chose. Chris Evans never really fitted in, but I think given time, the current three could have the same chemistry that Clarkson, Hammond and May do. I don't like the idea of 2 extra co presenters though.

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This short trailer has more fun in it for me than the whole of the last season with that idiot Evans in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLtpcxtk4HI

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RIP Top Gear.

The BBC need to change the format. It's evident they're incapable of mimicking Clarksons format and it was wrong to expect them to do it. Although even with changes its hard to see Top Gear beating this. Absolutely love the idea and I actually think that Trailer looks better than the TG with Clarkson in, as if to say with the massive budget they've made it even better. That trailer was epic, everything I expected and more. Its like one giant Top Gear special of old but a whole season of it.

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I prefer Channel 4's Car SOS :D Tim and Fuzz are great presenters and real people get real cars fixed up. Exotic cars and locations are fine in James Bond, but a car show ain't proper unless it has grime.

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Amazon are on a winner. I signed up for prime for 1 year and ordered a firestick because of the Grand tour. I wonder how many other's will sign up ?

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My cousin and brother have signed up lately while we have been with Prime for over a year now.

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coming soon...

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That looks like it might actually be good. They have gone back to the format of three guys having a laugh, rather than the approach of the Evans fronted series with many different hosts.

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That does actually look good. Hopefully they can pull it back from the last one.

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Hopefully they've embraced the fact they're not the old Top Gear.

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Might take a look mainly because they have gotten rid of chris the gob Evans. i hope its good as i need something to fill the gap between the Grand tour seasons

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March 5th

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Well Matt Le Blanc has planned to retire in his 50's.

Plus he is worth overt $60m so doesn't need to work.

What they need to do is have some ex-F1 drivers.

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Source

Doesn't look like they've managed to re-create the old magic.

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I actually enjoyed the entire series. I didn't miss the old trio one bit.

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it definitely got better as it went on, the team starting to "gel" more, although they seem awkward when "chatting" to the star in the car still.

I found Rory annoying to begin with, but I thought the last 2 episodes were very good, and he didn't annoy me :)

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I try to watch it but around halfway I find I can't take anymore of LeBlanc or the other two nonentities and have to delete it.

Sure it is better than the Chris Evans shows but if the audience keeps dropping it is ultimately doomed.

I probably won't bother with the next series at all.

Come to think of it The Grand Tour wasn't up to much either.

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How is this a Current Affair? It's a poxy TV series about cars that always has been boring no matter who presented it.

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i may have to wash my mouth out with soap for saying this

but i agree with Mr k it's pants ,it's entertainment [just] it's not a current affair , it's rehashed old crap .

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It did start as a thread about Clarkson punching the producer which was current affairs news at the time, however the topic has drifted somewhat as events unfolded.

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The old format was 3 middle aged, white, English blokes mucking around and having a good time. The cars were simply a vehicle (sorry) for the show. One of the things that worked was that they were doing stuff that the audience would like to do but don't dare (even if they could afford it). Even the "foreign specials" normally ended up complimenting the country and their people so it was all very tongue in cheek.

The new format hasn't really got that same gelling. They are mixed in nationality, age, race so they can't exactly do the same thing. They do need more time to work out what works and tune things up but the modern audience (and bean counters) are too fickle and easily bored to wait. It may never work of course which would be a shame as it's one of the few programmes my wife and I can watch together.

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Viewing figures are down to about 1.5m from a peak of 5.1m at the point Clarkson and co left the show.

Could this be the end?

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Nah the brand is too valuable plus the rating fall probably suggests Le Blanc wasn't the answer anyway. Although ratings for most things have been declining with the rise of streaming.

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Plenty out there who will take his place..

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Ratings don't matter. Top Gear is a bigger draw overseas now than it was under Clarkson. BBC keep expanding their coverage.

Having hosts drop out all the time does matter. Anything built is instantly lost and all of a sudden you're competing with Doctor Who with cast changes. Essentially having to soft reboot the show each time spells trouble with something like Top Gear. With ratings in the UK not really meaning anything its probably best to take the chance to establish a domestic host/s that see it as a long term project. Doesn't necessarily need to be a superstar host.

Not a fan of the guy but throwing names about, Jack Whitehall. Assuming he ever did get a licence. Then two semi serious blokes. Jenson Button, Ben Collins etc.

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Well l wonder what the forum members will make of the two new Top Gear presenters?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/enter...-arts-45937945