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If you look at what the cost of 30Mb broadband and M Phone should cost as a package, I'm only saving £6 per month. According to the email confirmation I got my package should have been £29.49 (before the £1 per month increase coming in Feb) but as it is i'm only paying £23.49
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Anything below these prices, for only one or two services and already little revenue to Virgin Media, should be considered as doing well. The claim made by nicko that the discount given for adding a landline is around the same as for paying annually in advance is clearly wrong. As I stated above, the extra cost of adding a landline to BB 30Mb is £6.49, considerably less than the £10 per month of annual in advance (goes up to £10.67 after the price increase). |
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No it's not, broadband is not charged at £25 if you have a landline, it's charged at something like £16 + phone line £16 = £32 approx. if you then pay phone upfront you can save £6 approx = £26 which is roughly what this fella has been offered to stay with Virgin. |
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Arithmetic here in Scotland is a law of nature. You are paying £25 per month for a BB service. If you add a landline, the charge becomes £31.49, meaning that the additional charge for the landline is £6.49. How it may be displayed on the bill is immaterial. Someone paying £25 for a BB service pays £6.49 extra for the landline and, using the commutative law of arithmetic, would only save £6.49 if they chose to cancel the landline. To show how your argument is flawed. Would you get the BB for £16 if you cancelled your £16 landline in your example? No. |
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No it's not flawed at all just accountants playing with figures, I said they were giving him the same discount for his loyalty that he could get by paying the line rental upfront (12months) which you disputed. Just work out the total cost of both packages and see if they are not virtually the same cost. |
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The first part about the £6.49 is correct the second part is NOT the way that Virgins pricing works, if you pay landline upfront it doesn't cost £35 a month for BB/phone.it works out like this Total bill £31.49 - 14.95 (phone) + £10 upfront phone = £26.54 which is broadly equivalent cost to the other fellas package with his loyalty discount, with as I said a similar amount of discount. |
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New channels only the bbc hd ones are on the Horizon. BTW there is a cryptic clue in this post ;) |
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I'm enjoying the discussion about packages etc ( we all want to save money I guess) but maybe it should be separated from actual.coming soon stuff ? Just a thought
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:waving::waving::waving: if only i had a sense of humour :sigh. Anyway back on topic Horizon box has indeed been mentioned but i believe the Tivo contract still has some way to go so that may all change. Talks of a 3tb box are still circulation as are the Sky channels launching before Christmas. Regarding the Sky channels if they launch this year i'd expect them on the 10th December along with the bbchd channels. If they don't come by then i think it's safe to say they won'y be here until 2014. My christmas and price rise comments were meant in just humour and were tongue in cheek comments. Sorry if they've annoyed anyone. :) |
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Like many, I've been eagerly awaiting sky Atlantic. However I have recently cancelled movies a sport to reduce bill ( sport easy to drop as I'm a rugby fan and BT have premiership covered)
With the money saved I have purchased Now TV with entertainment and movies. I now have sky Atlantic and movies and I'm paying aprox £30 per calender month. I'll be pleased if sky Atlantic does come, but I'm no longer desperate NowTV works fine as a stop gap solution. ---------- Post added at 23:21 ---------- Previous post was at 23:20 ---------- Sorry, That was meant to be £30 per month less |
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VM and Sky probably do not really care about churn if the info the CS rep told me is true (but the "churn" figures make for "good" reading in annual reports thus making it seem like a big deal, when it is not), as they make a profit on short term contracts and people who chop and change suppliers. Consumers are also happy to change suppliers as they do save large lumps of money over a reasonably short period of time. It makes sense for people to change suppliers all the time. It helps all involved, the businesses make a profit on a 12/18 month contract and the consumer gets some save some serious amounts of money over a 6/12 month period of time on a promotional discount. :) |
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As it's a discussion forum you expecting people to just hang around and not say anything would be a bit weird. I haven't said much (I said my peace a while back regarding foreign and skysports HD) but I still "listen" and read the current discussion whether I agree or not I still respect all opinions |
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Hi everyone, my total channels went up from 430 to 431 last night, anyone any idea what that maybe?
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Until NOW TV has been fully milked, I can't see SKY Atlantic on any other platform. I'm with you Dave, SKY Sports News HD and SKY News HD seem the most likely to launch on Virgin. I can't see SKY changing their stance on SKY Sports 3 & 4 HD. I think SKY might allow access to SKY Atlantic in the near future, as they enter into the last 2 years of their content deal with HBO. I can see SKY cashing in on SKY Atlantic to cover their outlay for the channel over the past 3 years. In my humble opinion, I don't think SKY Atlantic will have a long term future. |
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I posted for help last night on the Virgin Community forum without success. I'm trying to find out if I can sign up for 6 months half price on Premier Collection, with the £100.00 credit and have V+ as my second box. I do have to think carefully about my options. Turns out my work has a deal in place with Virgin for mates rates. Just checked to see what I can get as a mates rate deal: [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] |
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I'm just after good all round entertainment at the right price. The price of both companies top end packages are getting pretty expensive. Both come it at almost £1500.00 per year, and that's before you have to pay for any additional phone calls etc... Whilst it's affordable, I've got better things to spend such money on. |
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"You get all the entertainment channels in HD including Sky Atlantic that will never be on Virgin Media" "Sky Movies On Demand with more titles available on demand than anywhere else" "All 6 Sky Sports channels in HD which are not available anywhere else" Even Sky Sports News HD I'd begin to question now... |
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Since I've had SKY, and all SKY Sports channels in HD, I'd have to guess that about 90% of the live action I've watched has been on SKY Sports 1 & 2. In fact I don't think I've watched a single thing on SKY Sports 4 HD in the past 12 months. The boxing is on SKY Sports 2, Scotland Internationals tend to be on SKY Sports 2 and the Scottish Cup tends to be on SKY Sports 2. I do tend to watch tennis and have noticed that SKY shows the early rounds of tournaments on SKY Sports 3, but once you get to the latter stages their coverage switches to either SKY Sports 1 or 2. Based on what I watch, SKY Sports 3 & 4 HD aren't that important at all. |
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So the posters who are convinced the missing Sky channels that are on a list are coming in the Autumn.... are you still confident?
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I just called SKY to cancel my services early. My current deal expires on 15th January meaning I should actually call on 14th December giving them 31 days notice. I advised I'm aware of this but don't mind paying 13 days worth of early cancellation costs. I was told call back on 14th December, quote the persons name who set me up on 50% off friend and family in the first place, and they'll give me another full year at 1/2 price!
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Are there any people who would like go be my friends or family?
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But seeings as you did...... I predict new channels will launch at some stage in the future too, much like SA apparently will. I don't know when they will launch either (like SA), but when they will come I will be able to say I was right too. Its bone fide information too, I have done my research which I don't need to share. |
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With each passing month we come a little closer to getting the missing SKY channels, we're also in exactly the same position as we have always been - they're not here and may never appear.
Nobody knows and 10 mins after the announcement happens that they have finally arrived (if they finally arrive) nobody will give a rats backside about this discussion. Next...... |
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All I'm seeing over the weekend is people saying the missing sky channels are coming but offering no proof again? Is that all I've missed?
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I called SKY yesterday to discuss cancelling my contract, in view of joining Virgin, due to my 50% off deal coming to an end. As posted yesterday they've agreed to give me another 50% off for a further 12 months if I call on 14th December. However I received this e-mail from them this morning:
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] So I called them to ask what is going on. I explained my conversation from yesterday and what was agreed. Problem solved however the woman in the cancellation team wanted to know if I was happy with the SKY service in general or was I originally looking to cancel due to my 50% off deal expiring. I told her about Virgin being half price for 6 months with £100.00 cash back, Netflix free for 6 months and BT Sports included at no extra cost. I also threw in that SKY Atlantic is reportedly coming soon to Virgin. The person I was speaking too gave out a slight snigger and told me they hear this stuff day in day out. She advised it's simply not true. SKY Atlantic is not coming to Virgin, is not coming to BT and is not coming to Talk Talk. Of course this could just be sales chat but she seemed pretty sure about what she was saying. |
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Unfortunately with this and just the level of service and the welcome I've received (including an invite to the beta testing programme) I cannot fault sky yet. I'm sure we will see once it's installed but Sky Go, the Sports and Movies app. The remote record app. Everything I've seen so far unfortunately one-ups Virgin. It's could be a push for VM to bring me back in 12 months. |
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I was happy to go back to Virgin Media however the deal from SKY is just too good to turn down. Just under £63.00 per month for broadband, phone line, SKY Sports, SKY Movies and multiroom. It's saving me about £55 per month. I don't have to worry about any price increases for another 10 months. I've said this before, it makes you think how much we are all being overcharged by our providers. SKY must still be making some kind of profit from me on this deal. |
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The trouble with Sky’s tactics on Sky Atlantic/HBO is that it could back fire on them once their exclusive agreement comes to an end IMHO.
By denying access today, they may gain a temporary advantage but as far as I've seen posted, there is no real evidence of a significant subscription base being with Sky purely because of SA i.e. nice to have but not enough to move to Sky if you cannot get it. But by taking this stance, HBO may well be approached to do content supply deals with VM, BT and TalkTalk, which will easily cover the loss of revenues with any deal renewal with Sky not being exclusive. Of course HBO may continue an exclusive relationship with Sky but not sure this would be in their best interests. So while Sky have their exclusivity in the UK (legally at least) for new content from HBO, this will not be forever IMHO and then their tactics will back fire on them. Considering what BT have done to Sports, plus the likes of Netflix having greater access to content, Sky do have a battle on their hands as has been the case recently with Sports and they are not exactly helping themselves by forcing competitors to consider alternative roués to content instead of reaching agreements to supply channels under their existing agreements with the likes of HBO. When is the deal with HBO due to expire anyway, was it 2014 or 2015? |
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The HBO deal expires 2015. SKY are paying HBO £30 million per year for the content. I'm not sure I can see any other platform paying that kind of money to access the content. Now that SKY Atlantic is available on NOW TV, any household in the UK with a broadband connection can access the channel. That's 83% according to recent figures: http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/rdit2/...b-ia-2013.html Even if you don't want to go down the SKY route, HBO have a deal with Blinkbox for their content. Again this means 83% of households in the UK can legally watch HBO programming without any kind of TV subscription. If anything, more people in the UK have direct access to HBO content than in the States. |
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Here is the football result that Sky will not tell you: Sky 3, BBC Scotland 7. The BBC pick (Hearts game) of the 4th round of the Scottish cup has more goals than the Sky two picks (Rangers and Aberdeen games). |
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It is possible that a delay may have happened because Sky brought a proposal forward to launch Sky Bravo on Virgin Media rather late in the day. So if these channels don't launch before Christmas, this is probably the sticking point. You must understand that these negotiations are being conducted under a cloak of secrecy and I cannot tell you what I do not know. |
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