Cable Forum
Page 7 of 62 « First 3456 7 8910111757 Last »
Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Sport (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=88)
-   -   Football : Season 2011/12 (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33678768)

denphone 25-08-2011 18:08
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35292394)
Nope, once the pots 1 & 2 were drawn City could not have been on the MU side of the board, so when drawn automatically went into a group on the other side of the board
My opinion was based before the draw was made as they showed on SSN this morning the worse possible draw scenario for Man City.

Damien 25-08-2011 20:50
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Looks like all three Scottish Clubs crashing out of the Europa League already. Their UEFA coefficient is screwed, even more so.

denphone 25-08-2011 20:53
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292453)
Looks like all three Scottish Clubs crashing out of the Europa League already. Their UEFA coefficient is screwed, even more so.
Yes it just shows how much scottish football has fallen in the last few years.

thenry 25-08-2011 20:58
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
they need to start again and join England

denphone 25-08-2011 21:06
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35292456)
they need to start again and join England
But we do not want them in England.

devilincarnate 25-08-2011 21:07
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292459)
But we do not want them in England.
Why do we not want them in England:confused:

Niles Crane 25-08-2011 21:09
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Who is "them"?

denphone 25-08-2011 21:13
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35292460)
Why do we not want them in England:confused:
Because English clubs belong in the english leagues and Scottish clubs belong in their own leagues across the border.

---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:11 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35292461)
Who is "them"?
Those wily and canny old Scots.

Damien 25-08-2011 21:14
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Think it would be really hard to integrate them into English Football. Celtic and Rangers would need to go in at around Championship level but where do we find the room for them? I think the only way would be a restructuring of the Premier League. Spilt it into two leagues, with four Championship teams and the bottom half of the Premier League creating the lower league. The Championship would be reduced by four games but now include Rangers and Celtic.

thenry 25-08-2011 21:14
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
What about Wales then?

denphone 25-08-2011 21:17
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292466)
Think it would be really hard to integrate them into English Football. Celtic and Rangers would need to go in at around Championship level but where do we find the room for them? I think the only way would be a restructuring of the Premier League. Spilt it into two leagues, with four Championship teams and the bottom half of the Premier League creating the lower league. The Championship would be reduced by four games but now include Rangers and Celtic.
It will never happen and remember the scots do not even want to play in the Great Britain Olympic football team.

colin25 25-08-2011 21:18
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35292467)
What about Wales then?
bad enough the scots are called "them"..the english will hide all their sheep if they think the Welsh are coming :D

Damien 25-08-2011 21:25
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292469)
It will never happen and remember the scots do not even want to play in the Great Britain Olympic football team.
Celtic and Rangers will still have their identity but they would also have a future worthy of their name and status in the game. The rest of the SPL would do better in their absence, they could introduce a salary cap and have more exciting leagues. It would be a niche league but a more successful one than at present.

There is nothing of the horizon that suggests something will halt Scottish Football's decline. There need to do something. All their teams are out of the Europa League already. This is a serious problem for them.

thenry 25-08-2011 21:34
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Their stadiums are empty too.

Kymmy 25-08-2011 21:42
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292469)
It will never happen and remember the scots do not even want to play in the Great Britain Olympic football team.
It's actually the Scottish FA not wanting to lose their independent national team which is why they don't want to be part of the GB team. The FA could argue that if they play as a combined team then their special independent status would be nul and void even though the Olympic rules see the Great Britain as the country (which does beg the question where does NI come into Olympic rules as it's Great Britain and not United Kingdom but that is a whole other thread??). It would therefore have little effect if the Scottish, Welsh and English leagues were merged as it's purely a national team argument.

Damien 25-08-2011 22:02
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
The only reason Celtic and Rangers are not already in the Premiership is because of the question of how to do it. Otherwise it would have already been done.

Niles Crane 25-08-2011 22:13
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
To add insult to injury, even Ireland have a team still in Europe. Shamrock Rovers have just beaten Partizan Belgrade, one of the biggest teams in the Europa League, 2-3 on aggregate, after extra time.

I guess Celtic fans can take tenuous, desperate heart in that at least.

They scored a great equalising goal too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOfNq6JY_BE

---------- Post added at 22:13 ---------- Previous post was at 22:05 ----------

Quote:
Shamrock Rovers are set to become the first Irish team to play a European match in December since Shelbourne in 1964. Heroic.
Quote:
For the first time since European club football began in 1955, there will be no Scottish teams in contention on September 1. Wipeout.
http://twitter.com/#!/OptaJoe

thenry 25-08-2011 22:17
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Great goal :clap:

iadom 25-08-2011 22:30
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Here is a slightly flawed but nevertheless interesting article.

Arsenal & Blackpool were robbed :)

Jim.

nffc 25-08-2011 22:32
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35292467)
What about Wales then?
Like they aren't already in our league.

danielf 25-08-2011 23:13
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35292483)
(which does beg the question where does NI come into Olympic rules as it's Great Britain and not United Kingdom but that is a whole other thread??)
Actually, my wife and I were discussing that the other day and looked it up: Great Britain is the name under which the UK enters the Olympics. It's sort of an historical accident. Changing the name to UK now would mean that the UK couldn't claim the GB medals, even though it's always been the UK that competed in the Olympics. It's just called GB...

Wiki

Quote:
Great Britain is the name under which the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland competes at the Olympic Games.[1][2] Great Britain was one of 14 teams to compete in the first Games, the 1896 Summer Olympics, and has competed at every Games. Athletes representing Great Britain have won 715 medals at the Summer Olympic Games, and another 22 at the Winter Olympic Games. Great Britain is the only team to have won at least one gold medal at every Summer Games.
Great Britain was the name assigned to the United Kingdom team by the International Olympic Committee[citation needed] for the 1908 Summer Olympics along with the IOC country code GBR. The team is also referred to as Team GB.[2] Representatives of the devolved Northern Ireland government, however, have objected to the name, which they argue creates a perception that Northern Ireland is not part of the British Olympic team, and have called for the team to be renamed as Team UK.[3][4]
Under the terms of a long-standing settlement between the British Olympic Association and the Olympic Council of Ireland,[citation needed] athletes from Northern Ireland can elect to represent Ireland at the Olympics, as Northern Irish people are legally entitled to dual citizenship.[5]

Russ 26-08-2011 09:02
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nffc (Post 35292519)
Like they aren't already in our league.
Like the English aren't also in our league as well :)

Kymmy 26-08-2011 09:05
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35292517)
Here is a slightly flawed but nevertheless interesting article.

Arsenal & Blackpool were robbed :)

Jim.
Very flawed, as any change in any decision would effect the whole game from that point on and not just the goal in question

Damien 26-08-2011 09:09
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35292573)
Very flawed, as any change in any decision would effect the whole game from that point on and not just the goal in question
Certainly flawed but I good illustration of the damage incorrect decisions can do and the myth, which never held any substance, and they balance each other out at the end of the season.

Kymmy 26-08-2011 09:10
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Yep, and if you went back over a century you'll probably find that it's happened to every team in the country

denphone 26-08-2011 09:19
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
The law of averages says that over time these decisions generally equal themselves out so basically we have to accept the bad decisions when we get them and the good decisions when we get them because if one thing is certain it is that referees always stand by their decisions whether they are good or bad.

Derek 26-08-2011 10:16
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292466)
Think it would be really hard to integrate them into English Football. Celtic and Rangers would need to go in at around Championship level but where do we find the room for them?
Championship? Thats aiming a bit high, we'd end up relegated from it the way things are just now. :erm:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292453)
Looks like all three Scottish Clubs crashing out of the Europa League already. Their UEFA coefficient is screwed, even more so.
It's already in the gutter after the crap performances of most teams over the last few years. I believe next year the winner of the league gets automatic entry to the Champions League (to get a drubbing each game :( ) and after that it's right down at the bottom with 3 qualifying matches.

denphone 26-08-2011 10:24
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Well it seems Asenal are trying to get players on the cheap as they have just made a bid for Gary Cahill of £6 million and it was rejected by Bolton.

http://www.clubcall.com/bolton-wande...ce=twitterfeed

Damien 26-08-2011 10:36
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35292605)
It's already in the gutter after the crap performances of most teams over the last few years. I believe next year the winner of the league gets automatic entry to the Champions League (to get a drubbing each game :( ) and after that it's right down at the bottom with 3 qualifying matches.
That surprises me. Why would they get a automatic spot when their coefficient has been going down?

---------- Post added at 10:36 ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292608)
Well it seems Asenal are trying to get players on the cheap as they have just made a bid for Gary Cahill of £6 million and it was rejected by Bolton.

http://www.clubcall.com/bolton-wande...ce=twitterfeed
I call rubbish. We have already meant to have higher bids for him several times according to the papers. That said he is in the last year of this contract as Bolton's valuation of £17 million is absurd.

denphone 26-08-2011 10:38
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292612)
That surprises me. Why would they get a automatic spot when their coefficient has been going down?

---------- Post added at 10:36 ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 ----------



I call rubbish. We have already meant to have bid for him several times according to the papers.
Well it is on SSN as well and on several reliable Twitter feeds.

Derek 26-08-2011 10:40
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292612)
That surprises me. Why would they get a automatic spot when their coefficient has been going down?
AFAIK It rose slightly just at the tail end of last year with Rangers UEFA cup run and it depends on other teams qualifying etc. But after that it will be a barren few years.

Damien 26-08-2011 10:42
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35292619)
AFAIK It rose slightly just at the tail end of last year with Rangers UEFA cup run and it depends on other teams qualifying etc. But after that it will be a barren few years.
Ah. Pretty massive prize for Celtic or Rangers awaits then!

Shadow Demon UK 26-08-2011 11:01
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292612)
I call rubbish. We have already meant to have higher bids for him several times according to the papers. That said he is in the last year of this contract as Bolton's valuation of £17 million is absurd.
If you look at what Phil Gartside (Bolton chairman) has said on twitter, i would say it's fairly accurate.

Damien 26-08-2011 11:46
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35292631)
If you look at what Phil Gartside (Bolton chairman) has said on twitter, i would say it's fairly accurate.
Yeah seen that. Not quite sure why Bolton are going public to deride Wenger, screw them, it's not as if Cahill is the only decent centre back in the league. £6 million (think it was £7 million according to Coyle) is too low but their valuation at £17 million is equally mental. Let someone else take him for that price or get him on a free next year.

I say Wenger goes back to Everton or get's Dunn as cover for our existing CB pairing. I think a left back is needed more any a centre back anyway.

Shadow Demon UK 26-08-2011 11:53
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Wenger was moaning about his players being undervalued and teams getting them on the cheap, and now he bids £6 million for Cahill....slightly hypocritical of him to say the least.

Damien 26-08-2011 12:56
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35292653)
Wenger was moaning about his players being undervalued and teams getting them on the cheap, and now he bids £6 million for Cahill....slightly hypocritical of him to say the least.
Where? I believe he was moaning about the public pursuit of players, not private bids made.

EDIT: Wenger is saying the £6 million fee is wrong.

denphone 26-08-2011 15:48
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Scott Parker set to join Spurs according to latest reports.

---------- Post added at 14:14 ---------- Previous post was at 14:11 ----------

Europa League group stage draw

Group A: TOTTENHAM, Rubin Kazan, PAOK Salonika, Shamrock Rovers

Group B: FC Copenhagen, Standard Liege, Hannover, Vorskla Poltava

Group C: PSV Eindhoven, Hapoel Tel-Aviv, Rapid Bucharest, Legia Warsaw

Group D: Sporting Lisbon, Lazio, FC Zurich, FC Vaslui

Group E: Dynamo Kiev, Besiktas, STOKE, Maccabi Tel-Aviv

Group F: Paris St Germain, Athletic Bilbao, Salzburg, Slovan Bratislava

Group G: AZ Alkmaar, Metalist Kharkiv, Austria Vienna, Malmo

Group H: Braga, Club Brugge, BIRMINGHAM, Maribor

Group I: Atletico Madrid, Udinese, Rennes, Sion

Group J: Schalke, Steaua Bucharest, Maccabi Haifa, AEK Larnaca

Group K: FC Twente, FULHAM, Odense, Wisla Krakow

Group L: Anderlecht, AEK Athens, Lokomotiv Moscow, Sturm Graz

---------- Post added at 15:48 ---------- Previous post was at 14:14 ----------




Joey Barton signs 4 year deal with QPR

ChrisLUFC22 26-08-2011 19:17
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292494)
The only reason Celtic and Rangers are not already in the Premiership is because of the question of how to do it. Otherwise it would have already been done.
Why should they go in at Prem? Let them work up like every other team has to. Or, better still, tell 'em to bugger off.

---------- Post added at 19:17 ---------- Previous post was at 19:15 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292612)
We have already meant to have higher bids for him several times according to the papers. That said he is in the last year of this contract as Bolton's valuation of £17 million is absurd.
So what was Arsenal's valuation of Nasri?

Damien 26-08-2011 19:30
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisLUFC22 (Post 35292790)
So what was Arsenal's valuation of Nasri?
Well Nasri is a better player than Cahill and a more expensive position. However he was overvalued but that's Man City's problem :).

ChrisLUFC22 26-08-2011 19:38
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292793)
Well Nasri is a better player than Cahill and a more expensive position. However he was overvalued but that's Man City's problem :).
I agree with your second part, however, I don't recall Nasri being anything special apart from the first half of last season (2010/11). Can I ask a question, do you genuinely believe Arsenal can go any further under Wenger?
I'm not for a moment suggesting he be sacked, he's done too much for Arsenal and deserves huge respect. However, I think he would be better handing over to a manager not afraid to spend and who is more in touch with the modern game, with Wenger staying on as Head of Youth Development or whatever fancy title you want to give it. Not many have a better track record of bringing youngsters through.

colin25 26-08-2011 19:55
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisLUFC22 (Post 35292798)
I agree with your second part, however, I don't recall Nasri being anything special apart from the first half of last season (2010/11). Can I ask a question, do you genuinely believe Arsenal can go any further under Wenger?
I'm not for a moment suggesting he be sacked, he's done too much for Arsenal and deserves huge respect. However, I think he would be better handing over to a manager not afraid to spend and who is more in touch with the modern game, with Wenger staying on as Head of Youth Development or whatever fancy title you want to give it. Not many have a better track record of bringing youngsters through.
Wenger is a tough one. i wouldn't suggest he be sacked, if i was a fan, but equally, I'd want him to relax the purse strings...now..not later.

Arsenal with about 3 players (but better with 5) could challenge. But they can't afford to give both man city or the other half of that city (narky neighbours?)..any more of a start. :D

denphone 26-08-2011 20:00
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
l think Arsene Wenger deserves to be given time based on his great record over 15 years and where does it get you by replacing managers all the time.

colin25 26-08-2011 20:02
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292805)
l think Arsene Wenger deserves to be given time based on his great record over 15 years and where does it get you by replacing managers all the time.
One might say that 15 years is not "all the time" :D, but i agree with you

thenry 26-08-2011 20:02
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Wenger will now go shopping seeing as the mugs have pretty much done all their business and wont interfere ;)

Damien 26-08-2011 20:04
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisLUFC22 (Post 35292798)
I agree with your second part, however, I don't recall Nasri being anything special apart from the first half of last season (2010/11).
Me either. All the more reason the sale was good! Especially if we get Eden Hazard.

Quote:
Can I ask a question, do you genuinely believe Arsenal can go any further under Wenger?
Yes. He reinvented our club and even his recent record is good given the resources he had at his disposal. I agree with this sensible spending policy, only spend what you can make and never, ever, risk the club.

I think we all agree he needs some new players. I want a left back, M'Vila, Hazard and a forward.

denphone 26-08-2011 20:08
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35292809)
Wenger will now go shopping seeing as the mugs have pretty much done all their business and wont interfere ;)
But you are forgetting that just before the transfer window selling clubs generally play a game of brinkmanship to get the highest price they can get for players.

---------- Post added at 20:08 ---------- Previous post was at 20:06 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292811)
Me either. All the more reason the sale was good! Especially if we get Eden Hazard.



Yes. He reinvented our club and even his recent record is good given the resources he had at his disposal. I agree with this sensible spending policy, only spend what you can make and never, ever, risk the club.

I think we all agree he needs some new players. I want a left back, M'Vila, Hazard and a forward.
The trouble is these clubs want hugely inflated fees just before the transfer window closes.

Damien 26-08-2011 20:11
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292814)
The trouble is these clubs want hugely inflated fees just before the transfer window closes.
England more so, screw the English clubs. M'Vila (defensive mid) players for Rennes, we tabled a £22 million bid for him. Now that's not cheap but a player of that quality it's acceptable. He would be £30 million or more if you add the English premium. Hazard might be a bit too expensive, unlikely to get him for less than £30 million, young, exciting, plays in a expensive position.

thenry 26-08-2011 20:12
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Cahill will probably go through in the end plus theres a few players at Everton that. Both clubs need money.

Wenger should be able to get a few deals done but it'll all be last minute.

Damien 26-08-2011 20:14
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
You know I am not that impressed with Cahill. I don't rate him as anything that special. He would be ok but I want more ambitious signings like the ones I already mentioned.

denphone 26-08-2011 20:15
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35292818)
England more so, screw the English clubs. M'Vila (defensive mid) players for Rennes, we tabled a £22 million bid for him. Now that's not cheap but a player of that quality it's acceptable. He would be £30 million or more if you add the English premium. Hazard might be a bit too expensive, unlikely to get him for less than £30 million, young, exciting, plays in a expensive position.
My own view is since we have had this transfer window at the end of August transfer fees have surged through the roof and l would like to go back to the old system of there being one transfer window at the end of March.

thenry 26-08-2011 20:16
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Our scout seems to think otherwise Damien

colin25 26-08-2011 20:21
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292821)
My own view is since we have had this transfer window at the end of August transfer fees have surged through the roof and l would like to go back to the old system of there being one transfer window at the end of March.
I would scrap transfer windows. That is what is inflating fees.

If financial fair play (which I'm against) is here, then why not scrap transfer windows.

thenry 26-08-2011 20:36
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Wengers confirmed hes after a striker :D So a LB if Traore leaves on loan, a CB, midfielder and a striker :dunce:

iadom 26-08-2011 20:37
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
I for one would really miss Arsene, nobody does 'bulldog chewing wasp' like he does.:D

I think the transfer window should be scrapped altogether or at least be closed before the start of the season.

Damien 26-08-2011 21:03
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35292827)
Wengers confirmed hes after a striker :D So a LB if Traore leaves on loan, a CB, midfielder and a striker :dunce:
Yeah that's a bit too much. We'll see. I really hope the M'Vila rumours are true.

Arthurgray50@blu 27-08-2011 11:58
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
WHATS WRONG WITH SCOTTISH FOOTBALL.

We have had in the past couple of months, that Scottish football is in crisis and now we have the big guns Celtic and Rangers out of the cup, and Heart get thrashed by Tottenham.

What Scottish Football needs is big input of cash, and where will they get it, Advertising, Television, l don't think.

We have had Rangers and Celtic considering joining the English Premier League, but then this would be unfair to all the other clubs that are suffering financially.

What needs to happen is that the Football Association and Scottish FA have to bang there heads together to sort this problem out and fast.

Tv coverage of Scottish Football is now non existence, which is a shame, but something has to bwe done.

colin25 27-08-2011 12:07
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35292967)
WHATS WRONG WITH SCOTTISH FOOTBALL.

We have had in the past couple of months, that Scottish football is in crisis and now we have the big guns Celtic and Rangers out of the cup, and Heart get thrashed by Tottenham.

What Scottish Football needs is big input of cash, and where will they get it, Advertising, Television, l don't think.

We have had Rangers and Celtic considering joining the English Premier League, but then this would be unfair to all the other clubs that are suffering financially.

What needs to happen is that the Football Association and Scottish FA have to bang there heads together to sort this problem out and fast.

Tv coverage of Scottish Football is now non existence, which is a shame, but something has to bwe done.
Why? I'm Scottish and i'm not worried.

These things happen, money dictates. And as the league has been set up to favour the old firm (10-12 team leagues), it is merely fortune following form.

Scottish football is due nothing.

I feel the same for any team bought by an owner, you pays the money you take the chances.

denphone 27-08-2011 12:11
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35292967)
WHATS WRONG WITH SCOTTISH FOOTBALL.

We have had in the past couple of months, that Scottish football is in crisis and now we have the big guns Celtic and Rangers out of the cup, and Heart get thrashed by Tottenham.

What Scottish Football needs is big input of cash, and where will they get it, Advertising, Television, l don't think.

We have had Rangers and Celtic considering joining the English Premier League, but then this would be unfair to all the other clubs that are suffering financially.

What needs to happen is that the Football Association and Scottish FA have to bang there heads together to sort this problem out and fast.

Tv coverage of Scottish Football is now non existence, which is a shame, but something has to bwe done.
There is plenty of TV coverage of Scottish footbal on SKY and ESPN.

colin25 27-08-2011 12:15
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292980)
There is plenty of TV coverage of Scottish footbal on SKY and ESPN.
And some good games. I watched Kilmarnock vs Hibs, and enjoyed the game (and not because I'm a hearts supporter, surprisingly :D )

But most are dire...I've even considered getting up and doing something else (not what I pay my subscription for, if I needed a reason to get up, I'd get a wife)

LondonRoad 27-08-2011 12:23
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Part of the problem is that Sky and ESPN were allowed to stitch up the SPL coverage between them for far less than they were getting from Setanta. :(

It wouldn't have been allowed to happen if it was the English Premier league.

There are far too many mediocre players earning a good living in the SPL. The pressures on manager don't really allow that much opportunity to blood young talent.

colin25 27-08-2011 12:28
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35292995)
Part of the problem is that Sky and ESPN were allowed to stitch up the SPL coverage between them for far less than they were getting from Setanta. :(

It wouldn't have been allowed to happen if it was the English Premier league.

There are far too many mediocre players earning a good living in the SPL. The pressures on manager don't really allow that much opportunity to blood young talent.
Yup, they get paid to play mediocre football, and it has become easier life than working for a living

denphone 27-08-2011 12:29
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35292995)
Part of the problem is that Sky and ESPN were allowed to stitch up the SPL coverage between them for far less than they were getting from Setanta. :(

It wouldn't have been allowed to happen if it was the English Premier league.

There are far too many mediocre players earning a good living in the SPL. The pressures on manager don't really allow that much opportunity to blood young talent.
Yes if Scottish football is to return to its former glories it needs to blood more youngsters and get rid of some of the cheap foreign players.

colin25 27-08-2011 12:30
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292997)
Yes if Scottish football is to return to its former glories it needs to blood more youngsters and get rid of some of the cheap foreign players.
Or, only pay them if they play well

If Scottish Footballers went on strike, I'm not sure i would miss the football

denphone 27-08-2011 13:00
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Well heres the draw for the Carling cup 3rd Round.

Third Round

Cardiff v Leicester
Wolverhampton v Millwall
Chelsea v Fulham
Aldershot/Carlisle v Rochdale
Arsenal v Shrewsbury
Burnley v MK Dons
Leeds v Manchester United
Brighton v Liverpool
Nottingham Forest v Newcastle
Manchester City v Birmingham
Blackburn v Leyton Orient/Bristol Rovers
Swindon/Southampton v Charlton/Preston
Everton v West Brom
Crystal Palace/Wigan v Middlesbrough
Aston Villa v Bolton
Stoke v Tottenham



Ties to be played week commencing September 19

colin25 27-08-2011 13:42
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Brighton vs Liverpool stands out as a good tie

denphone 27-08-2011 14:00
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Yes there are a few tricky ties in there for some of the top clubs.

---------- Post added at 14:00 ---------- Previous post was at 13:51 ----------






Park Chu-Young set to sign for Arsenal for around £10 million

colin25 27-08-2011 14:05
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35293037)
Yes there are a few tricky ties in there for some of the top clubs.

---------- Post added at 14:00 ---------- Previous post was at 13:51 ----------

Park Chu-Young set to sign for Arsenal for around £10 million
I never seen that signing coming....sneaky

denphone 27-08-2011 14:07
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35293046)
I never seen that signing coming....sneaky
Yes he's very shrewd is Mr Wenger and here is the link for Arsenal supporters.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14692916.stm

denphone 27-08-2011 17:50
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Liverpool one up against Bolton through Henderson but what a ball from Suarez.

thenry 27-08-2011 17:56
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Don't think those antics will aid Arsenal buying Hazard... if ever that was realistic :rolleyes:

Mata scored a nice goal earlier... what a shame!

denphone 27-08-2011 18:02
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35293125)
Don't think those antics will aid Arsenal buying Hazard... if ever that was realistic :rolleyes:

Mata scored a nice goal earlier... what a shame!
Yes Mata looks a decent player but l hope Drogba is alright as he was down for a fair while.



Fine goal by Skrtel and now Adam a minute later to make it 3=0 for Liverpool against Bolton and thats the full time score

LondonRoad 27-08-2011 20:17
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
All the doom and gloom about Scottish football is misplaced.


WE'RE IN THE WORLD CUP FINAL:D:D:LOL:

Here's the big issue;)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14694749

Bring it on.

denphone 27-08-2011 20:24
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35293156)
All the doom and gloom about Scottish football is misplaced.


WE'RE IN THE WORLD CUP FINAL:D:D:LOL:

Here's the big issue;)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14694749

Bring it on.
Well done.:clap::clap:

iadom 28-08-2011 14:24
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Did anyone else see a trainer on the pitch in the first half at White Hart Lane, where did they get 3 minutes of extra time from.:confused:

The ref is a joke as well, not in the least bit dirty or overly physical game and yet 5 yellows in first 30 minutes.:rolleyes:

thenry 28-08-2011 14:32
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Sagna out for the game against United today!

City look really good. Edin with 2 good goals, Nasri with 2 assists!

Kymmy 28-08-2011 14:35
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Yep, looks like Nasri and Dzeko were seperated at birth.. so natural together

Kymmy 28-08-2011 14:45
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Hat-trick for Dzeko :clap:

thenry 28-08-2011 14:45
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Dzeko hattrick. Why does ESPNs sound suck?

adzii_nufc 28-08-2011 14:50
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Oh my... Please give us Man city vs Barca in the champions league. We are probably looking at this year's champions

thenry 28-08-2011 14:55
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
theres your clean sheet gone adzii_nufc

adzii_nufc 28-08-2011 14:57
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35293379)
theres your clean sheet gone adzii_nufc
Was always gonna happen eventually but nonetheless some really noticeable performances from Tim Krul.

denphone 28-08-2011 15:02
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Well Man City have been breathtaking today with Dzeko proving what a good forward he is and then the mighty Aguero who along with Suarez are setting the Premiership alight with their vision and skill and now they have the inventive Nasri as well in their side.

Damien 28-08-2011 15:13
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Arsenal's team:

Szczesny
Jenkinson Djourou Koscielny Traore
Coquelin Ramsey Rosicky
Walcott RVP Arshavin

We're screwed!

adzii_nufc 28-08-2011 15:14
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Where's that £40 million rated Gareth Bale everyone was up in arms about?

denphone 28-08-2011 15:16
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35293386)
Arsenal's team:

Szczesny
Jenkinson Djourou Koscielny Traore
Coquelin Ramsey Rosicky
Walcott RVP Arshavin

We're screwed!
Yes it does not look awe inspiring and l fear for them today and also what do you think of this South Korea player they look like signing.

Damien 28-08-2011 15:17
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35293388)
Yes it does not look awe inspiring and l fear for them today and also what do you think of this South Korea player they look like signing.
Apparently he is a dead ball specialist and otherwise a very crafty and quick player. Sounds pretty good, especially considering no one can take free kicks in our team at present.

denphone 28-08-2011 15:21
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35293389)
Apparently he is a dead ball specialist and otherwise a very crafty and quick player. Sounds pretty good, especially considering no one can take free kicks in our team at present.
Yes Wenger is usually a good judge and l would expect Arsenal to sign a Centre back, defensive midfielder and maybe one other player before the window closes on Wednesday.


Well Dzeko has scored his forth and Man City,s fifth now.

thenry 28-08-2011 15:23
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Great, Sagna and Vermaelen out.

City 5-1 > Edin impressive performance today... nicely placed.

Kymmy 28-08-2011 15:26
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
:clap:

A slightly subdued Silva today with Nasri taking some of the glory but what can you say about Dzeko.. Amazing play by him and hopefully he's now silenced his critics

:clap:

Damien 28-08-2011 15:51
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
I would love a draw today....

denphone 28-08-2011 16:24
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Poor defending by Arsenal again and Man Utd are one up through Wellbeck.

thenry 28-08-2011 16:25
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35293415)
Poor defending by Arsenal again and Man Utd are one up through Wellbeck.
Pathetic

Damien 28-08-2011 16:25
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Was awful defending. What more can you say?

thenry 28-08-2011 16:29
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35293418)
Was awful defending. What more can you say?
Awful penalty too considering Van Persies quality.

Young makes it 2-0, as much as this hurts... well placed, good goal.

Kymmy 28-08-2011 16:29
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35293402)
I would love a draw today....
Something tells me that you're not going to get it

adzii_nufc 28-08-2011 16:29
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35293418)
Was awful defending. What more can you say?
That Arsenal are playing like absolute crap whether you like it or not and the inevitable resignation of Arsene Wenger is coming?

denphone 28-08-2011 16:30
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35293418)
Was awful defending. What more can you say?
More poor defending and now its 2-0 through Ashley Young.

Damien 28-08-2011 16:32
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35293424)
That Arsenal are playing like absolute crap whether you like it or not and the inevitable resignation of Arsene Wenger is coming?
Like it or not? I said it was awful defending. Wenger isn't going to resign, things are no where near that bad. :rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 16:32 ---------- Previous post was at 16:32 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35293425)
More poor defending and now its 2-0 through Ashley Young.
Really good goal though.

adzii_nufc 28-08-2011 16:34
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Are you sure this is Arsenal? I dont see Champions League qualification or a trophy this year..

The Weakest Arsenal side in years is getting hammered out there.

Quote:
Like it or not? I said it was awful defending. Wenger isn't going to resign, things are no where near that bad.
Yeah, How many years without a trophy for a top 4 club? Things are fine....

denphone 28-08-2011 16:34
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35293427)
Like it or not? I said it was awful defending. Wenger isn't going to resign, things are no where near that bad. :rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 16:32 ---------- Previous post was at 16:32 ----------



Really good goal though.
Yes great goal but where was the closing down.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:30.
Page 7 of 62 « First 3456 7 8910111757 Last »
Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum