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HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Nice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14162545

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Going only by what I've read, it sounds more like he ran into a wall.

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Brown always stuck me as a poor leader, rather vindictive, but quite loyal to his beliefs and causes. I don't think he would be corrupt and I believe him when he says he wanted to stop News International - not only because NI were especially cruel to him.

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If it turns out that the FBI find credible evidence that 9/11 victims phones were hacked then all of this is a mere warm up for what News Corpse have coming to them. :erm:

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Rupert Murdoch defends his handling of the Hacking crises, he tells Wall Street Journal.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

Hellooooo, you stupid old fool - How about sacking the current CEO and then apologising to all the victims of phone hacking. You really do deserve your empire to totally collapse and implode around you.

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A bit of both maybe but methinks he doth protest too much. Nobody forced Brown to deal with Murdoch or endure the shabby relationship during all the years he and Bliar were chums. I don't recall him complaining publicly about any of it at the time so clearly he put his personal/party interests first.

It's all very well the likes of John Prescott banging on about how awful it was that Murdoch had such influence over politicians but they tend to skirt around the fact that those same politicians allowed themselves to be influenced. Why? Probably because they felt it served their purpose....

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Interesting this is what it takes to make Gordon Brown do his job and show up in the HoC.

Get the popcorn ready anyway all, this could be good.

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An apology does appear on the front page of The Sun today

THE Guardian last night said sorry to The Sun for accusing us of hacking into the medical records of Gordon Brown's sick son.

The apology came after we told how our source was the dad of another child with cystic fibrosis - and that the ex-PM was mistaken in claiming we were guilty of wrongdoing.

The paper conceded: "The Guardian of Tuesday 12 July incorrectly reported the Sun newspaper had obtained information on the medical condition of Gordon Brown's son from his medical records.

More of an apology than anyone else has had in this whole sorry saga and why is it when they write lies about some one it's on page 31 in a small paragraph not on the front page.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-sick-son.html

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Thats a Murdoch comic for you.

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They really have some brass neck. :D They put that on the front page and at the end of the day it's hardly that much better they got the information from someone who knew his medical records rather than his medical records. Not enough to vindicate them from the act and certainly not enough to vindicate this entire scandal - which The Sun has been less than keen on promoting.

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Rebekah Brooks has resigned. More Info here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog...-live-coverage

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Well thats geat news about Rebekah Brooks resigning, one down two to go.

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I wonder why her resignation has now been accepted - is it possible they've now found some incriminating evidence?

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I'd wager its because the story is now getting some serious scrutiny in the USA. By sacrificing Brooks they can pin the blame on her rather than Murdoch Snr and Jnr getting it in the neck.

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Well perhaps thats what they are hoping for but l doubt whether that ploy will work.

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Both parties need a kick up the bum about this.Neither can crow louder than the other.They really must stop these stupids digs at each other because it just makes them look childish and petty and it's not the behaviour I what to see and hear from the Houses of Parliament at this present time.

What I'd like is a full heartfelt apology from both parties WITHOUT any sidewise swipe at anyone else.
Fat chance of that.

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Theres a lot of sense in your piece Maggy and yes both parties had their noses in the trough and should apoligise to the nation and come together on this but as you say there is more chance of me winning the lottery then that happening but we can always hope.

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:clap:

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/15/wo...hinton.html?hp

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With Murdoch's latest press release in The Wall Street Journal, he really is turning into Monty Burns, isn't he. :D

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Unfortunately I can't read it as I refuse to pay either for the hardcopy or online version of ANY Murdoch owned news outlets.So he can defend himself as much as he likes in his paid for media as I cannot access it.;)

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Well she one unemployment stastic that everyone will be happy about.

I hope when she goes to sign on she reliased that she get the minimum as she left the job. :D

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I don't think she'll be signing on anytime soon or out of work for very long.

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Breaking news on the BBC

Former News of the World editor Andy Coulson stayed as a guest of David Cameron at Chequers in March, Press Association reports

I don't think that the water is muddied any more by this but I'm sure there'll be some who try to get mileage out of it.

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Good one. When is the next one coming or is it like a bus?

I do not think that they will touch her due to what has gone off.

Nothing surprises me now:confused:

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At last, we agree on something. :D

But it is quoted in other sources. ;)

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Maybe the Met have a job for her. ;)

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Will be a long interview process:erm:

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The question is who will be conducting the interviews.;)

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I was thinking more along the lines that some former editors have been employed by the Met.

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I think that is a shame that so many had too lose their jobs because of her (and others)had she resigned last week or earlier in the year when all this started things may have been different .There are reports that she tried to resign before personally i don't believe that for one second ,if she felt as responsible for the whole sorry buisness as she said she does she would have just one regaurdless of whet the Murdochs said

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Agreed

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Q Flyboy :LOL:

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You don't think she "resigned" of her own accord now did you?

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Murdoch's apology which will appear in the papers

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/07/15.jpg

I wonder what his next move will be

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ly-Dowler.html

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..amends for the damage they have caused..

Guess it was too much to hope, that he'd take some of the responsibility himself :(

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The Murdochs? back to Austrialia (Deportation)

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Leave this country and never show his face here again would be a start

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And send the people who were corrupted by his empire with him as well.

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They are American citizens. ;)

This is a good thing, because the USA has a neat little law that means an American citizen can be prosecuted for crimes of bribery and corruption that they have carried out anywhere else in the world. If the allegations about bungs for British coppers turn out to have any substance, Messrs. Murdoch might just find that their corporate responsibility for the shambles that is News Corp lands them in some very deep dooh-dooh indeed with an American judge.

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Did you not get the joke;)

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..... or Rupert could accidentally fake his death by falling off his yacht whilst sailing near the Canaries.... or is that getting too far fetched? Who'd believe a press baron in deep doo doo would fabricate his own death ;)

What a lovely play that would make, Robert and Rupert seeing out their twilight year on a secluded island with fake identities. :D

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But they where Aussies, and I believe the USA can revoke their US citizenship
. Then deport them.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog...-live-coverage

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It's being reported on the beeb too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14170879

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/16/wo...acking.html?hp

Hmmm!

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Too little, too late.

This should have appeared on the last issue of that rag.

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They are US citizens. ;)

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Or put him up in one of HM's best hotels.

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This is not necessarily limited to US citizens. I believe (but I stand to be corrected) that it goes for any employee of a company incorporated in the US.

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Or claim to have Alzheimer's and then be suddenly cured. ;)

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l thought these were very interesting pieces to peruse this morning.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...e-2314592.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...need-them.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...nton-news-corp

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I frankly am not impressed by the Daily Mail's Max Hastings rant.He blamed everyone including the poor old Prince of Wales without ever mentioning the poison that his paper has been dripping into our society all this time as well.:mad:

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No l can't say l agree with some of what he said but l posted these pieces because then people would discuss and then possibly have different viewpoints and opinions.

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Well it seems they have going to have a profitable payoff according to the Daily Fail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ly-Dowler.html

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All the monies from this should be going to charity and not in to the pockets of the ******** that let this happen:mad:

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l totally agree.

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Who cares really? It's News Corp's money after all.

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Very very true but I think that all the money should go to charity. But this is just my opinion?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/wo...ce.html?emc=na

It's a damning indictment of what went on at Scotland Yard.

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http://lockerz.com/s/120694158

http://c0013864.cdn1.cloudfiles.rack...com/x2_731a58e

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James Murdoch future at BSKYB under review

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...er-review.html

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Fair enough but they got the money for the termination of their contracts as I understand it. The only people who could decide to give it to charity and it's recipients and they are not going to be inclined to do so - I am not sure I would - especially since people tend to think of themselves are innocent or ill-treated.

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Think that's kind of weak. There is much more worrying accusations that during the period NOTW were being investigated the Met had many, many dinners and meetings with them. Very worrying.

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And more close links here

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...h-2315111.html

And more revelations to come as well.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...t-Murdoch.html

Rupert Murdoch's empire must be dismantled – Ed Miliband

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...-phone-hacking

Well it seems near enough the whole establishment are having their fill.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...orton-set.html

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Much as I dislike the way the Murdoch uses his media empire, I have to say I am concerned that policy appears to being made up in response to public outrage, rather than in a considered manner.

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Yes politicians always seem to look at the opinions polls or public reaction and then react to it instead of taking their time and considering things rationally.

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I think they are polices that have been wanted previously but they would never have happened until this window where Murdoch is weak and the government not being held to ransom by his papers. This is now a campaign to weaken, maybe destroy, News International's influence in the UK and to get as much done while the public and political will is still there and before they regain the front foot.

I mean how likely would it be for a senior politician with aspirations to go further to call for a media plurality law previously? Let alone stand the remotest chance of getting anywhere.

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From the Telegraph

Now if i was signing cheques for that amount i would be asking why we were paying out that amount of money to individuals who did not work for the company ??

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The Mail on Sunday indicate that the Murdoch name now may be toxic - and no company will want to be associated with them..

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I have to say, don't our elected representatives have better things to do than this? Some of them are behaving like tabloid editors.

Last I checked there are problems in Europe, problems at home, no real direction within government on how to deal with them and no policies beyond 'no' from the opposition.

Seriously if I wanted indignation I'd find a protest group. Bloody politicking seems all any of them do, forgetting they're in elected office to do things other than cover their own backsides and try and get reelected.

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This is important. There is plenty to suggest that there was corruption within the Police and any investigation of that and News International's phone hacking was covered up as the police has a cosy relationship with them.

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Yes l agree and the next head to roll will be James Murdoch.

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I can believe that , Sky may well lose some customers due to the Murdoch's and some who were considering signing up may have been put off by this. It would be in Skys interest to distance the business from the Murdochs.

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Yes that would be the wisest option and l gather that there are already trains in motion to get rid of James Murdoch as non executive chairman of BSKYB.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14175552

I'm in danger of wetting myself..This is what some of us have been screaming for for a couple of decades.:D

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He should never have been in the Sky boardroom in the first place. He just isn't has dad - doesn't have the same judgement or skill. IMO the debacle of the removal of the Sky Basics from Virgin Media was down to his attempts to overplay his hand. When the dust finally settled, VM had by far the better deal and it was forever established that Sky needs carriage on other platforms more than other platforms need to carry Sky, thereby nobbling all future negotiations from Sky's point of view.

Sky as a business will be better off without him, and the wider British broadcast media will be better off without his constant whinging about our system of regulation and licencing.

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At long last and hopefully his nefarious influence on the British establishment and brainwashing of parts of the British public will lessen massively in the coming months and years.

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Yes l agree with you that he should have never been in the Sky boardroom as l have always thought of him as daddys boy but with none of the clever instincts of his father who l despise but has had a inmense influence and is very clever and shrewd and yes James made a right mess up in the Sky basics and maybe once they have got rid of him negotiations will be easier with other companies regarding carriage agreements.

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So do what is supposed to be done in these circumstances and have the appropriate independent public enquiries not have half of parliament going on the media expressing their righteous indignation and populist views. Parliament has wasted quite enough time trying to win votes through this issue.

Roll on fixed terms, we may be in with a chance of politicians not campaigning for at least a part of each term then.

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Or let's just return to the status quo whereby Murdoch says jump and they all say "how high?"

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Completely irrelevant? Politicians using this for PR purposes doesn't do anything to address the issues, it's hardly a return to the status quo suggesting they do something constructive rather than reflect and indeed foment popular anger.

Appropriate investigations, with appropriate legislation based on the outcome of those investigations will resolve this, not grandstanding.

I'm actually much more concerned that here will be knee jerk legislation which will erode freedom of the press. That's the biggest risk right now, Murdoch's name is tarnished on both sides of the Atlantic for the foreseeable, and he's under investigation by the FBI.

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Agreed! And an apology from all political parties for not doing anything sooner about the reported phone hacking would be a start instead of this incessant blame game.

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Breaking news that Rebekah Brooks has now been arrested on suspicion of corruption and phone hacking!

Assuming the corruption charges relate to her paying the police for information.

Explains why she was let go, they probably were told this was coming.

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There's one way to keep her quiet before she faces parliament, or at very least for the bent Met police to have a nice chat. Part of an ongoing investigation, should ensure the more painful details for the met can't come out.

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I have just been thinking, I would like to bet that Vince Cable is laughing his sack off with all this? As he wanted to go to war on Murdoch?

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Link to the arrest story

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14178051

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I'll ask him if I can catch him this weekend, if he's not on parliamentary business he might be cycling and will be around town a bit.

Not that he'll be able comment of course! :)

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The question now is will James Murdoch get arrested soon.

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I think that you should be able to guess if he is smiling like the Joker?

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You really wonder if there is any faith to be had in the police investigation anyway, the people at the top of the Met were in bed with News International and clearly only opened the recent investigation when they were forced too. They would otherwise have been quite content to do nothing and continue doing deals with News International. It's shocking.

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The real question now is

whose sword will Cameron fall on

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Not bringing politics into it but l do think this will have done considerable damage to Cameron;s electability at the next General election as mud generally sticks even though some of it is probably not true.

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To genuinely not bring politics into it this damages all sides of the political spectrum as all of them can be trivially and deeply linked to Murdoch.

This is why the lady doth protest so much as far as Miliband goes - preemptive attempt to detoxify himself, he knows as well as anyone that New Labour were Murdoch's bitches every bit as much as the Tories.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-murdoch-party

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I'm going to publicly admit breaking the law and see how long I can avoid being arrested. I'm guessing it'll be less than the 8 years it took for Brooks to be.

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More good news :D

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But remember that Milliband is leader of the Labour party and Cameron is Prime Minister and as such is in a position of very high office so there is going to be a lot more of the spotlight on him and his judgement in the appointment of Andy Coulson and other things as well.

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Indeed. Cameron put his judgement on the line in appointing Coulson, it came up short and as such he should bear the responsibility of that. If the PM can't even get an appointment like that right and ignores all evidence to take a guy proven to be untrustworthy on his word, then how can he be trusted to make the decisions needed to run the country?

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Not really - the timing is suspicious, her being arrested now means her attendance to the meeting on Tuesday, in front of a committee of MP's will be useless and pointless because she will not be able to say anything because she is now under a criminal investigation.

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Yes this is very very true as I have been watching the BBC news channel and they have said the same. Also why has her resignation been allowed and then got the message that she was going to be arrested just after she had resigned? All seems strange?

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And its just been mentioned on Channel 4 news that the Serious fraud office are to begin preliminary investigations into News International.

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They just can't catch a break :D

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It seems every day there is a new development and what will next week bring.

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The Sunday Sun.

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The development i want is that they can link one of the Murdochs to the hacking :D

A new sunday comic :)

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The development i want is that they can link one of the Murdochs to the hacking :D



Whats the odds on James Murdoch being arrested soon.

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Once Mr. Cameron whispers something in the ear of those in charge I'd say... none. Otherwise... :rolleyes:

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I think you are underestimating the momentum of this crisis and David Cameron can't have any close ties to them now or his reputation will suffer greatly if it has not already suffered.:)

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Breaking news on BBC and that is that Sir Paul Stephenson resigns as Met Police Commiissioner.