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Strangerstill 24-12-2010 16:38

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 35142299)
Noticed one of slide eight has a "recording quality" setting. Something I'm a little surprised to see as I thought all PVRs recorded the raw data stream?

Could possibly be the option to record the SD or HD showing of the programme if both are available.

jtaylor06 24-12-2010 19:05

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35142787)
All sounds great!! By the way what is TiVo? :dunce:

Santa's little helper ;)
Just kidding, take a look on http://tivo.virginmedia.com :)

TonyHoyle 24-12-2010 20:45

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35142781)
Funny you should say that then, popped into my local virgin media store today, and they confirmed it will be available to order from the 1st week in january, only stipulation is that you have to be on tv XL, not on VIP. Phoned up customer services just now,and they re confirmed this!

VM CS in 'confusing mixed messages'. News at 11 :p

kgollop 25-12-2010 10:11

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strangerstill (Post 35142801)
Could possibly be the option to record the SD or HD showing of the programme if both are available.

That's a good call.

SOSAGES 25-12-2010 13:55

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35142575)
Once something like call of duty 3d comes out then 3d tvs will take off

the moment they stop all the horrid cross talk they will take off.
2nd gen 3d tv's coming thsi year should solve the issue now everyone had a good practise with the 2010 models :)

HDFootyMan 26-12-2010 01:38

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strangerstill (Post 35142801)
Could possibly be the option to record the SD or HD showing of the programme if both are available.

Doubt it - the screen-shot is for BBC 3, which currently has no HD equivalent.

In fact, a quick read of the TiVo Premiere manual says that the quality setting only apples to analogue recordings, and all digital recordings are recorded with 'best quality', I suspect that's the unchangeable default for VM's TiVo and is there for show.

Stuart 26-12-2010 15:09

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35142575)
Once something like call of duty 3d comes out then 3d tvs will take off

3D needs to succeed outside the games market before it's successful. IMO.

AndyCambs 27-12-2010 21:03

Re: TiVo
 
To be honest, 3D TVs are still expensive. Most people have just upgraded to HDTV and to have to ditch the TV for a new one costing in excess of £700 (especially with VAT increasing and the current state of the economy), I can't help but think Sky have backed the wrong horse in this race.

muppetman11 28-12-2010 14:53

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Sky have released an iPad app but there not frightened of the threat from TiVo honest LOL :-)

ottoni 28-12-2010 21:29

Re: TiVo
 
Does anyone know how comprehensive the youtube app will be for the tivo? will it be just like the online version?

fixerman 28-12-2010 22:18

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35144186)
Does anyone know how comprehensive the youtube app will be for the tivo? will it be just like the online version?

Nobody knows anything for sure at this stage. It's obvious that we are still at the development stage on all aspects. They cannot even confirm dates or prices. Just rumours and rumours of rumours. It all adds to the hype for a set top box that is not really much more advanced than what we have already. I have two SA V+ boxes that have given me many years of trouble free service. Why would I want to change and pay more?

More of "The King's New Clothes" me thinks! :D

Digital Fanatic 28-12-2010 23:08

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35144186)
Does anyone know how comprehensive the youtube app will be for the tivo? will it be just like the online version?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35144209)
Nobody knows anything for sure at this stage. It's obvious that we are still at the development stage on all aspects. They cannot even confirm dates or prices. Just rumours and rumours of rumours. It all adds to the hype for a set top box that is not really much more advanced than what we have already. I have two SA V+ boxes that have given me many years of trouble free service. Why would I want to change and pay more?

More of "The King's New Clothes" me thinks! :D

I have the answer, but I won't bite... even with this taunt! ;)

ottoni 28-12-2010 23:26

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35144234)
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I have the answer, but I won't bite... even with this taunt! ;)

Could you just tell us if it will be available from the start of jan?

HDFootyMan 29-12-2010 01:07

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35144186)
Does anyone know how comprehensive the youtube app will be for the tivo? will it be just like the online version?

If the apps I've used on my Sammy TV and WDTV Live box are any indication, no.

Content providers are very fussy about what content on YouTube can be viewed on TV-connected devices, I'd be surprised if VM have got around that. I'm sure our Digitally Fanatic friend would know. ;)

Mr Fell 29-12-2010 09:34

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35144242)
Could you just tell us if it will be available from the start of jan?

I've been told that if you ask in one of the shops about the roll out of the new box then they are saying that it can be ordered from the first week in Jan :)

Digital Fanatic 29-12-2010 12:44

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35144242)
Could you just tell us if it will be available from the start of jan?

Yes, it will be available at launch.

gadge 29-12-2010 13:04

Re: TiVo
 
Well tivo cant be far away virgin are advertising it enough on their homepage i am just hoping i can get my hands on one before the end of January if the vip rumor is true i will just upgrade to get one.

One question for anyone in the know the ability to scroll back 7 days and picking what you want to watch does that also apply to the sky channels as well eg sky1,sky sports ect or are there rights involved?.

BenMcr 29-12-2010 13:07

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At present I reckon it's only the content that is available via the current On Demand service, as TiVo doesn't change what's available, just how it's accessed

However once Sky and VM sort out the Sky On Demand stuff I would hope that would show up too

Digital Fanatic 29-12-2010 13:12

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35144405)
At present I reckon it's only the content that is available via the current On Demand service, as TiVo doesn't change what's available, just how it's accessed

However once Sky and VM sort out the Sky On Demand stuff I would hope that would show up too

This is my understanding too :)

Stephen 29-12-2010 13:56

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35144402)
Well tivo cant be far away virgin are advertising it enough on their homepage i am just hoping i can get my hands on one before the end of January if the vip rumor is true i will just upgrade to get one.

One question for anyone in the know the ability to scroll back 7 days and picking what you want to watch does that also apply to the sky channels as well eg sky1,sky sports ect or are there rights involved?.

Only what is already available via on demand.

gadge 29-12-2010 14:08

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35144405)
At present I reckon it's only the content that is available via the current On Demand service, as TiVo doesn't change what's available, just how it's accessed

However once Sky and VM sort out the Sky On Demand stuff I would hope that would show up too

Sorry my mistake i meant the programme guide.

Digital Fanatic 29-12-2010 14:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35144431)
Sorry my mistake i meant the programme guide.

The same answer, Gadge :)

What ever is on Catch Up TV will be available via the EPG back-wards search :)

gadge 29-12-2010 14:26

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35144434)
The same answer, Gadge :)

What ever is on Catch Up TV will be available via the EPG back-wards search :)

Thanks for the replies just according to different reviews i have read on the net you could scroll back on the epg for 7 days and pick anything you liked to watch.Does anyone know if tivo will record from the buffer?.

Digital Fanatic 29-12-2010 23:37

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35144436)
Thanks for the replies just according to different reviews i have read on the net you could scroll back on the epg for 7 days and pick anything you liked to watch.Does anyone know if tivo will record from the buffer?.

Yes :)

ottoni 30-12-2010 21:07

Re: TiVo
 
Just wanted to clarify, is the VIP package a must have if you want tivo from launch? or is the only stipulation that you must be on xl tv?

BenMcr 30-12-2010 21:09

Re: TiVo
 
XL

jb66 30-12-2010 21:09

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35145165)
Just wanted to clarify, is the VIP package a must have if you want tivo from launch? or is the only stipulation that you must be on xl tv?

XL tv is the only musthave

ottoni 30-12-2010 21:13

Re: TiVo
 
so where did this rumour come from?

Digital Fanatic 30-12-2010 21:24

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35145174)
so where did this rumour come from?

:shrug:

usually Digital Spy forums! :rofl:

ottoni 30-12-2010 21:25

Re: TiVo
 
probably!:D:D

fixerman 30-12-2010 22:08

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35145185)
:shrug:

usually Digital Spy forums! :rofl:

Nasty Nasty!:p:

Digital Fanatic 30-12-2010 23:36

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35145209)
Nasty Nasty!:p:

Harsh, but fair :rofl: ;)

Nah, DS is ok, but I do prefere CF :)

gadge 31-12-2010 16:28

Re: TiVo
 
Are there anymore news for ordering yet?.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35145253)
Harsh, but fair :rofl: ;)

Nah, DS is ok, but I do prefere CF :)

Yes i do tend to come here more than the other side i find them a bit biased at times.And when i do go there i tend to go to the freesat forum the bbc/itv one.

Stephen 31-12-2010 16:52

Re: TiVo
 
There will be news when VM have some to give. Patience people it will come.

Risco 01-01-2011 15:15

Re: TiVo
 
Just been on the phone to Virgin, they said that TIVO has been pushed back til.....MARCH! :erm:

tweedie 01-01-2011 15:26

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35145821)
Just been on the phone to Virgin, they said that TIVO has been pushed back til.....MARCH! :erm:

March was the date all along wasn't it?

Risco 01-01-2011 15:34

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tweedie (Post 35145828)
March was the date all along wasn't it?

I thought it was this month? :erm:

Felim_Doyle 01-01-2011 15:56

Re: TiVo
 
As always, "separated by a common language" ...

My understanding, just from catching up on the past couple of weeks' posts, is that from a few weeks ago you could register your interest, from January you can order and, maybe, from March you can take delivery. I can't tell if CS actually said that the roll-out had been put back or if this is just an interpretation of "you can't have one until March" which was what we were expecting all along by my interpretation.

Happy New Year!!!

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denphone 01-01-2011 16:17

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Its typical of Virgins track record as they string things out for as long as they can, lets see if they deliver tivo by the end of march along with the red button and more channels to replace the ones we have just lost.

Sarg92 01-01-2011 16:24

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35145821)
Just been on the phone to Virgin, they said that TIVO has been pushed back til.....MARCH! :erm:

I believe that January is the soft launch, aimed at staff and existing customers, then from late January to February they are going to start having TiVo demos in Virgin Media stores and then by March it will be available to all customers.

Stuart 01-01-2011 17:35

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35145850)
Its typical of Virgins track record as they string things out for as long as they can, lets see if they deliver tivo by the end of march along with the red button and more channels to replace the ones we have just lost.

Would you prefer they do a full launch with out fully testing the systems and software involved then?

passingbat 01-01-2011 18:36

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35145889)
Would you prefer they do a full launch with out fully testing the systems and software involved then?

No, but what was the point of anouncing it in December if it wasn't ready and won't be available untill much later?

fixerman 01-01-2011 20:07

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35145933)
No, but what was the point of anouncing it in December if it wasn't ready and won't be available untill much later?

My sentiments entirely!:mad:

Stephen 01-01-2011 20:31

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35145933)
No, but what was the point of anouncing it in December if it wasn't ready and won't be available untill much later?

It is ready, they have started giving to some staff members. Announcing in December and making the launch in March wouldn't be that bad it's only 3 months. That to me is fairly normal for an announcement to launch.

fixerman 01-01-2011 21:16

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35145975)
It is ready, they have started giving to some staff members. Announcing in December and making the launch in March wouldn't be that bad it's only 3 months. That to me is fairly normal for an announcement to launch.

They quite plainly announced that the TiVo would launch in December and not just to staff members.:confused:

martyh 01-01-2011 21:37

Re: TiVo
 
is there any definate price for existing customers yet ?

Stephen 01-01-2011 22:32

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35145994)
They quite plainly announced that the TiVo would launch in December and not just to staff members.:confused:

Well it launched in that you can register your interest ;-)

Peter_ 01-01-2011 22:42

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35145994)
They quite plainly announced that the TiVo would launch in December and not just to staff members.:confused:

The website has always said this.
Quote:

Our new TiVo service is launching in early 2011. We can hardly wait!
But everyone has been assuming different timescales, you can register your interest in the link below.

https://tivo.virginmedia.com/public/interest

gadge 02-01-2011 18:04

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35146023)
The website has always said this.


But everyone has been assuming different timescales, you can register your interest in the link below.

https://tivo.virginmedia.com/public/interest

Then do what i am doing just keep checking your emails for when its available.;)

Peter_ 02-01-2011 20:11

Re: TiVo
 
If we hear anything before the end of January over release dates I will be surprised but it would be a pleasant surprise.

ottoni 02-01-2011 21:03

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35146416)
If we hear anything before the end of January over release dates I will be surprised but it would be a pleasant surprise.

this is ridiculous, can anyone on here confirm for definite if tivo will be launched this week? according to digital fanactic it was supposed to be, any more news digital fanactic?

ahardie 02-01-2011 21:29

Re: TiVo
 
Well at least Masque is doing his best to manage expectations but shouldn't VM have been doing this earlier given that they have previously said that it will be available end of 2010.

TonyHoyle 02-01-2011 21:46

Re: TiVo
 
When you allegedly have shop and CS staff saying it'll be available from the beginning of January, it's hard to manage expectations. It's within VM's power to either give them a real date or tell them to stop making stuff up.

I'll believe it when there's a press release...

Peter_ 02-01-2011 22:21

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35146434)
this is ridiculous, can anyone on here confirm for definite if tivo will be launched this week? according to digital fanactic it was supposed to be, any more news digital fanactic?

No one will confirm any dates until they are officially announced by Virginmedia due to the confidentiality clause in all staff contracts.

I know as much as everyone else on this forum at present.

spiderplant 02-01-2011 22:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyHoyle (Post 35146451)
It's within VM's power to either give them a real date or tell them to stop making stuff up.

Staff are instructed to direct customers to http://www.virginmedia.com/TiVo, nothing else. Unfortunately it's hard to stop people making things up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyHoyle (Post 35146451)
I'll believe it when there's a press release...

You are a fine person.

Peter_ 02-01-2011 22:32

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyHoyle (Post 35146451)
It's within VM's power to either give them a real date or tell them to stop making stuff up.

You may have noticed that I and others have not said anything about release dates because we know as much as you do.

howardmicks 02-01-2011 23:42

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35146434)
this is ridiculous, can anyone on here confirm for definite if tivo will be launched this week? according to digital fanactic it was supposed to be, any more news digital fanactic?

Whats the rush peeps its commonly known there is bugs and only two tuners and the prices being spun around (not confirmed) are total ludicrus,I want one myself but not complete with bugs.I have a SA V+ at mo never have any major probs and 3 tuners aint gonna part with that before i know bugs are sorted and aint gonna pay £150 neither,If people dont rush to get VM will have no choice but to have a rethink and come up with a more resonable price.Sky have already been offering exisiting customers the 1tb drive for £100 and they have the hd channels to back it VM don`t

Digital Fanatic 03-01-2011 10:11

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35146434)
this is ridiculous, can anyone on here confirm for definite if tivo will be launched this week? according to digital fanactic it was supposed to be, any more news digital fanactic?

I was talking about YouTube being available at launch. I haven't mentioned a date :)

Felim_Doyle 03-01-2011 12:04

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35145850)
Its typical of Virgins track record as they string things out for as long as they can, lets see if they deliver tivo by the end of march along with the red button and more channels to replace the ones we have just lost.

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35145933)
No, but what was the point of anouncing it in December if it wasn't ready and won't be available untill much later?

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35145994)
They quite plainly announced that the TiVo would launch in December and not just to staff members.:confused:

In several threads on this forum people complain if VM don't announce something, then speculate on what we might get and when we might get it, then call a gradual roll-out 'stringing things out'.

VM are doing the right thing by testing the boxes and the supporting infrastructure with a small control group of staff and customers. They are probably restricted somewhat anyway by the number of boxes in production so far and by the number of engineers available to install them. They also took the appropriate step of allowing pre-registration for those interested in having TiVo so that they can judge the likely uptake and order boxes and train installation personnel accordingly.

Stop moaning! You'll most likely have TiVo available to you sometime this quarter and with a more stable firmware/software in the box and a more fully featured back-end to support it as well as a larger amount of content to choose from.

passingbat 03-01-2011 12:29

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35146602)
Stop moaning! .

I'll moan if I want to, wheather you like it or not.

Actually, I wasn't actually moaning; I was expressing my opinion.

fixerman 03-01-2011 12:55

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35146605)
I'll moan if I want to, wheather you like it or not.

Actually, I wasn't actually moaning; I was expressing my opinion.

Me too! After all this is a "Forum".:)

howardmicks 03-01-2011 13:05

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35146602)
In several threads on this forum people complain if VM don't announce something, then speculate on what we might get and when we might get it, then call a gradual roll-out 'stringing things out'.

VM are doing the right thing by testing the boxes and the supporting infrastructure with a small control group of staff and customers. They are probably restricted somewhat anyway by the number of boxes in production so far and by the number of engineers available to install them. They also took the appropriate step of allowing pre-registration for those interested in having TiVo so that they can judge the likely uptake and order boxes and train installation personnel accordingly.

Stop moaning! You'll most likely have TiVo available to you sometime this quarter and with a more stable firmware/software in the box and a more fully featured back-end to support it as well as a larger amount of content to choose from.

:clap::clap::clap:

Felim_Doyle 03-01-2011 13:39

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35146605)
I'll moan if I want to, wheather you like it or not.

Actually, I wasn't actually moaning; I was expressing my opinion.

Well, in my opinion, it came across as a definite moan! :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35146615)
Me too! After all this is a "Forum".:)

Moaner! ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35146620)
:clap::clap::clap:

Stop :clap:ing!!! :mad:

denphone 03-01-2011 14:43

Re: TiVo
 
l never moan but forum members are entitled to a opinion whether its tivo or anything else.

knack 04-01-2011 08:44

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35146602)
In several threads on this forum people complain if VM don't announce something, then speculate on what we might get and when we might get it, then call a gradual roll-out 'stringing things out'.

VM are doing the right thing by testing the boxes and the supporting infrastructure with a small control group of staff and customers. They are probably restricted somewhat anyway by the number of boxes in production so far and by the number of engineers available to install them. They also took the appropriate step of allowing pre-registration for those interested in having TiVo so that they can judge the likely uptake and order boxes and train installation personnel accordingly.

Stop moaning! You'll most likely have TiVo available to you sometime this quarter and with a more stable firmware/software in the box and a more fully featured back-end to support it as well as a larger amount of content to choose from.

This "small" group you speak of shouldn't be considered part of a roll out if they are still testing a product they are barred from discussing. Until such testing was complete links such as "I want TiVo now" on tivo.virginmedia.com implying that it was available already shouldn't appear. And in the demo video the guy announces towards the end "and how about if we made all this possible? not in the future but right now". The video was available online a month ago and we've still to hear of when this "right now" is. Were VM hoping people wouldn't watch the video until March (widely speculated on here as the month TiVo will be fully available). March is in the future to me and if the chance of having TiVo before then as implied is possible by filling in the "how do I get it?" form means having to sign a non disclosure agreement then that's not really great is it?

I think TiVo looks very good and I am glad VM are testing it so that when it launches it is perfect. I only wish they wouldn't alienate customers by announcing information in such a sporadic manner and having inaccurate information on the website.

Peter_ 04-01-2011 08:50

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knack (Post 35146995)
March is in the future to me and if the chance of having TiVo before then as implied is possible by filling in the "how do I get it?" form means having to sign a non disclosure agreement then that's not really great is it?

That has nothing to do with a Non Disclosure contract that is purely to register your interest in TiVo.

ottoni 04-01-2011 09:05

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In one of her interviews, cindy rose did talk about letting the 'hype' do the selling. This is probably what she wanted all along, banter, rumours, getting people 'talking' about it, and really vm haven't done anything wrong. Maybe we're just all a bit too excited!:erm:

Peter_ 04-01-2011 09:07

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ottoni (Post 35147000)
In one of her interviews, cindy rose did talk about letting the 'hype' do the selling. This is probably what she wanted all along, banter, rumours, getting people 'talking' about it, and really vm haven't done anything wrong. Maybe we're just all a bit too excited!:erm:

Hype sells so no surprise there.;)

ahardie 04-01-2011 11:08

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My complaint above was more that VM should be better at managing expectations than they are. If they say a product will be ready end of Dec 2010 and it doesn't appear then some people are bound to be disappointed. Personally I would rather wait a while until the product has been fully tested before it is released to us customers.

Angel67 04-01-2011 14:29

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I like others don't mind waiting as such but when something is promised for a certain time frame and it doesn't happen, it does get a tad bit annoying. Also the promo video says it's available "now" which isn't 100% true.

I just want my TiVo but I know it's worth waiting for so no complaints from me.

pauldavies83 04-01-2011 14:52

Re: TiVo
 
Maybe the 2010 "launch" was to satisfy the initial proclamation when the deal was signed in 2009 that the product would launch "late next year" (i.e. late 2010).

Rattus 04-01-2011 15:38

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I do find it hard to fathom some of the views on here calling people moaners etc..

Originally Tivo was supposed to launch Q4 2010 (i believe in an old press release).

We were then told it was a soft launch.. which as it turns out seems to be an internal staff launch, with the odd tester.

I was then told off for calling this a beta test, as it's not a beta version.. Well it's hardly a release version is it so what's wrong with calling it beta test? Yeh maybe it's a release candidate 1.0, but that's not a release version either.

Now were told early 2011, btw i don't consider march early. Assuming we can order march, we might get an install after a week or two which is almost Q2!

The next issue i have which i don't think anyone has thought about is, when do all the series' xmas breaks come to an end? At the moment my tvdrive is empty, i've watched everything, but very soon it'll have hours of programming on again once the winter break ends, so what happens then? You lose all that programming. Now is an ideal time to be changing boxes over, but it's looking more and more likely that VM are going to miss this window during series lulls.

Stuart 04-01-2011 16:16

Re: TiVo
 
While Christmas may be the ideal time to introduce a new product for the customer, it's not ideal for VM purely purely because it's unlikely they'll have enough staff in to cope if there are problems. A large chunk of January is likely to be used up dealing with problems that have occurred with the existing infrastructure over Christmas.

I suspect ideally, Virgin would have liked to launch a couple of months before Christmas, as this would enable them to get any bugs out of the system, and enable them to have a big push for new customers at Christmas (in most industries, this is a peak sales time).

fixerman 04-01-2011 16:20

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35147168)
I do find it hard to fathom some of the views on here calling people moaners etc..

Originally Tivo was supposed to launch Q4 2010 (i believe in an old press release).

We were then told it was a soft launch.. which as it turns out seems to be an internal staff launch, with the odd tester.

I was then told off for calling this a beta test, as it's not a beta version.. Well it's hardly a release version is it so what's wrong with calling it beta test? Yeh maybe it's a release candidate 1.0, but that's not a release version either.

Now were told early 2011, btw i don't consider march early. Assuming we can order march, we might get an install after a week or two which is almost Q2!

The next issue i have which i don't think anyone has thought about is, when do all the series' xmas breaks come to an end? At the moment my tvdrive is empty, i've watched everything, but very soon it'll have hours of programming on again once the winter break ends, so what happens then? You lose all that programming. Now is an ideal time to be changing boxes over, but it's looking more and more likely that VM are going to miss this window during series lulls.

I think that is a very valid point. Having listed as an interested subscriber for the Tivo I began to run down my recorded programmes on my V+ box in anticipation of getting a Tivo in a few weeks. I did this on the basis of the hype put out by Virginmedia that the new box would be available, possibly by the end of December. All this cloak and dagger stuff is just going to p**s people off.

Virginmedia should come clean and give us a firm date when installations will begin. If they cannot do that it proves that what we have at present is a box software combination that is not ready for release to the market. Call it a beta release if you wish.

denphone 04-01-2011 17:04

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l agree with the last thread in that we should have had a firm date way before christmas, they need to be more pro-active than they are at the present moment not just with tivo but other things as well.

muppetman11 04-01-2011 17:08

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Will say when it was announced I was excited , now I'm wondering whether to bother or not LOL .

Stephen 04-01-2011 17:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35147178)
I think that is a very valid point. Having listed as an interested subscriber for the Tivo I began to run down my recorded programmes on my V+ box in anticipation of getting a Tivo in a few weeks. I did this on the basis of the hype put out by Virginmedia that the new box would be available, possibly by the end of December. All this cloak and dagger stuff is just going to p**s people off.

Virginmedia should come clean and give us a firm date when installations will begin. If they cannot do that it proves that what we have at present is a box software combination that is not ready for release to the market. Call it a beta release if you wish.

VM will give the full launch date when they are ready too. At present they launched to 500 staff, which was a proper launch as they are paying customers not beta trialists. That would have been ongoing for months already to get it to the level needed to start rolling out.

I imagine that the full customer rollout will start as soon as they have an idea how many people are interested and that they will have enough equipment available.

I think people need to stop speculating and guessing about VMs plans and just wait till the give an actual date. Its not really cloak and dagger stuff, if they gave a date and then missed that date people would still moan so the best thing is to provide a rough idea of a time scale for release and not announce an actual date till things are fully ready.

If I recall VM never actually stated it would be available for install in December, even the TiVo mini site states the following
Quote:

Our new TiVo service is launching in early 2011

jobbie8 04-01-2011 17:37

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I spoke to a scottish lady at customer services this afternoon to turn off the movie channels, she said her team leader is having Tivo training today.

Angel67 04-01-2011 18:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35147211)
If I recall VM never actually stated it would be available for install in December, even the TiVo mini site states the following

You're quite right Stephen, but they do also at the same time contradict themselves by saying it's available 'now'. I don't mind waiting but at the same time I don't like being misled I guess.

Digital Fanatic 04-01-2011 19:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel67 (Post 35147258)
You're quite right Stephen, but they do also at the same time contradict themselves by saying it's available 'now'. I don't mind waiting but at the same time I don't like being misled I guess.

Teased, rather than mislead :)

Stephen 04-01-2011 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel67 (Post 35147258)
You're quite right Stephen, but they do also at the same time contradict themselves by saying it's available 'now'. I don't mind waiting but at the same time I don't like being misled I guess.

They don't really as they don't actually mention who it is available too ;)

okun69 04-01-2011 22:42

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If I remember correctly the Q4 2010 date was given in one of the financial statements and thus on a financial timescale Q4 2010 would be Jan to March 2011? Please correct me if I'm wrong

albertsteptoe 04-01-2011 22:45

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hello all, just a quick bit of news i was given today from retentions as my contract ends on February 4th i spoke to a man there to ask what sort of deals i could get I'm currently on XL TV, XXL BB, & m phone, i told the guy I'm paying nearly £94 a month & that thats not far off what people on VIP 50 are paying, he said all he could do was give me a £4 discount & put me on a rolling contract as my contract hasn't ended yet, while i was talking to him i asked about Tivo, if he had any news, he said Virgin will be Announceing on the 15 January that you can order your Tivo box from The 15 Th February, he said that the initial take up from Pre registration has made Virgin have to order triple there original order, ill be calling back 2nd week in February if this is true, hope this helps.

ShadowTD 05-01-2011 10:59

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As a bit of a break from Andrew Shearman asking daily when he can have TiVO, Cisco are supposedly showing off 'connected cable products' today at CES:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/c...-boxes-at-ces/

Wonder if our custom TiVO will get some time in the spotlight?

muppetman11 06-01-2011 12:08

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http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...112947739.html

indie1982 06-01-2011 14:25

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I don't get it, if Tribune are supplying the EPG and other metadata what does the TiVo subscription pay for? I assumed the TiVo monthly fee was for TiVo to manage that data?

whizzard 06-01-2011 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by indie1982 (Post 35148109)
I don't get it, if Tribune are supplying the EPG and other metadata what does the TiVo subscription pay for? I assumed the TiVo monthly fee was for TiVo to manage that data?

TiVo source a lot of their metadata from the same place, so it could be a case of VM sourcing it directly, or having two sources of data. Either way it costs.

Stuart 06-01-2011 15:21

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Tribune have always provided the guide data for Tivo. Tivo develop (and own the rights to) the software. Either way, as noted above, both Tivo and Tribune have costs (and the desire to make profits).

muppetman11 06-01-2011 15:24

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http://www.marketwire.com/press-rele...VO-1376537.htm

fixerman 06-01-2011 15:54

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Again a claim that Tivo has begun to roll out?:confused:

Cindy Rose, executive director of digital entertainment at Virgin Media, said, "After laying all the necessary groundwork to bring the exciting TiVo experience to our customers in record time, we are thrilled to have begun rolling out our next-generation entertainment platform."

Digital Fanatic 06-01-2011 16:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35148167)
Again a claim that Tivo has begun to roll out?:confused:

Cindy Rose, executive director of digital entertainment at Virgin Media, said, "After laying all the necessary groundwork to bring the exciting TiVo experience to our customers in record time, we are thrilled to have begun rolling out our next-generation entertainment platform."

It has... I have it ;)

whizzard 06-01-2011 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35148167)
Again a claim that Tivo has begun to roll out?:confused:

Cindy Rose, executive director of digital entertainment at Virgin Media, said, "After laying all the necessary groundwork to bring the exciting TiVo experience to our customers in record time, we are thrilled to have begun rolling out our next-generation entertainment platform."

Written word is a wonderful thing. Whilst she mentions in the first part of the sentence the word customers, the way it's written doesn't necessarily this is whom the rollout is to. Personally as some others in the thread have said, it's better to have a box with all the kinks worked out than one with lots of bugs to bear, and I can't imagine it's going to be that much longer now that everything is starting to point to a wider rollout other than those limited numbers of VM staff who got it pre-xmas. I'm just going to have my pint of the black stuff and wait for tick to follow tock in the meantime :p

Rattus 06-01-2011 16:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35148187)
It has... I have it ;)

I have a fantastic prostate cancer diagnostic test in my lab doesn't mean you can take it yet.

Does make me laugh how staff are now claiming a staff role out is a launch.

Digital Fanatic 06-01-2011 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35148197)
I have a fantastic prostate cancer diagnostic test in my lab doesn't mean you can take it yet.

Does make me laugh how staff are now claiming a staff role out is a launch.

And nobody can have it? :(

We are customers too you know! :rolleyes:

ntl.wotcha 06-01-2011 16:54

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"Now" is the new "Soon", well I never... ;-)

joglynne 06-01-2011 17:49

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I'm not sure if this is old news or can even be classed as marginally interesting news but I have just read this on a site I visit and thought I would post a link.

Quote:

Virgin Media selects TMS for TiVo entertainment content
http://www.cable.co.uk/news/virgin-m...ent-800325982/

Digital Fanatic 06-01-2011 18:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35148243)
I'm not sure if this is old news or can even be classed as marginally interesting news but I have just read this on a site I visit and thought I would post a link.



http://www.cable.co.uk/news/virgin-m...ent-800325982/

ah yep, saw that earlier. Cheers Jo :)

ess1 06-01-2011 18:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35148197)
I have a fantastic prostate cancer diagnostic test in my lab doesn't mean you can take it yet.

Does make me laugh how staff are now claiming a staff role out is a launch.

Had test 5 years ago. Am not allowed to say...;)

Stuart 06-01-2011 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35148197)
I have a fantastic prostate cancer diagnostic test in my lab doesn't mean you can take it yet.

Does make me laugh how staff are now claiming a staff role out is a launch.

Can you take the test if you pay for it? I suspect not..

The VM staff testing tivo do pay.

Also, VM are far from the only company to do this. Freeview "launched" their HD service at least 6 months before it was available in more than one area..

devilincarnate 06-01-2011 19:27

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:

If the box is able to stream web content ( could VM be able to do a deal to get this applicable - the web versions of the channel E.G full web based i- player )


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