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Totally agree, a great match, lively as hell..and well done to MU for a good win..

Now I'm looking forward to the rest of the season..

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I'm probably going to sound bitter at this, and to be fair normally you'd be right but City's 3 goals were more to do with shocking defending/goalkeeping than good performance from the blue half of Manchester.

I still don't take them seriously as title contenders. They've had some good results so far but consistency is the key. Let's see where they are come May. I've no doubt they'll be higher than the usual mid-table position but breaking the top 4.....that's stretching it although there is currently a vacancy available, formally held by Arsenal.

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I don't see there being much between Arsenal, Villa, Everton and Man City for 4th spot. It looks like it's going to be an interesting season.

There may even be 5 teams involved for 3rd and 4th place if Liverpool don't attain some consistency or get a couple of key injuries.

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May even be 6 the Spuds look quite good

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Who are also playing well. I don't understand this, Liverpool have lost just as many games and to lesser teams. We lost away to Old Trafford (and showed our ability against United) and Man City. As long as we cut out the mistakes we could be pushing Chelsea.

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Nah. They deserved a draw in the first half, they did nothing in the second half. All three City goals came from UTD making childish errors and bar three great saves from Given we could (should?) have scored more. Could easily have been 6-0. Even when Tevez hit the post it was Rooney giving it away under no pressure. Arsenal were unlucky the other week against us, not City.

That has to go down as the biggest pile of crap I have ever read! The fact that when UTD are winning the other team is trying to get back into the game and hence "Getting on with it" and when we are loosing or drawing the opposition will tend to be wasting time, bar one of the bigger sides.

We get the same 4mins every week, Home or Away that everyone else gets. Was it Arsenal or Chelsea that had 7mins added at the start of the season and won the game? Difference being the Guardian could care less about that,

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...y-match-report

Oh it was Chelsea, and there is a Guardian report (that's handy) if you scroll right down to the bottom you will see mention of six mins added, no moaning about it and no in depth report about should they have got it. You will also note it hardly got a mention at the time.

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Imagine that as UTD 1-1 Hull - the sight of the stoppage spurring UTD on. Hells bells, the Country would have come to a standstill.

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You could equally say that United wouldn't have scored if it wasn't for defensive errors on the part of Man City. It was a great 0-0 we watched then. ;)

I think every manager can trace every goal conceded back to some error earlier on in the move. There were mistakes but credit to Bellamy too. The finishes were top drawer.

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Chelsea. The Guardian wasn't comparing one game vs another. They were comparing averages and found the United do in fact, on average, get more time. Sure you can point to one Chelsea game where they had 7 mins added and one United game where there was only 4 but in this case they took all games.

Edit: Not that I believe this is part of a Pro-United Ref Policy. But it is clear United get more time when they are losing. Either because of time-wasting by the leading team or the games they lose tend to be dirtier affairs requiring more time.

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Oh come on don't compare the City defending to our mistakes, their first n third goals where disgusting from a UTD standpoint. Lets not compare them to slack defending.

My point still stands, they don't care when it's a team winning three points from added time, seemingly just UTD. Chelsea weren't winning when the time went up, and it was 6min from the off and not added time in added time, so it should have been a bigger deal. Did Chelsea fans have to spend a week justifying it? Did the media break out the calcs?

Again, my point stands. Did they bother to take this into account (it may not even be a reason to justify it, I am just throwing a variable in that might exist) and if it is the reason, then it is the reason, and hence they should shut up.

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Is Mark Hughes aware of the existence of Video replays? And that "Other People" are privy to them?

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Soooooo......Carling cup anyone?

We'll putting our youngsters up against West brom as usual, hopefully Wilshere will keep impressing.

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Great tactic to change the subject, it was getting boring ;)

we've got Leeds - should be interesting :)

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Ahh , a change of subject :) , yeah i would imagine we will put our youngsters out tomorrow night against Wolves , especially after the glorious win over Man City last Sunday i'm sure the more experienced players will need a rest ;) :D:Sprint:

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Just had this text on my mobile.............

<Forwarded from the BBC>

Breaking news......Giggs has just scored to make it 5 - 3 :D

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he just keeps on going and going and going and going...

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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...575539,00.html

Might be something to do with the fact he lied about not being offered a deal by United then went off to get more money from City?

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and Sol has already left Notts County, would love his reasons behind it really.

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Well our game was a cure for insomnia. Our goal was good though.

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Gah. I had a accumulator on the following teams to have won after 90 mins:

Arsenal
United
Chelsea
Liverpool
Spurs
Villa
Man City

I really, really dislike Man City right now.

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Has anybody else seen that Dwight Yorke News of the World advert? The man is a ****.

That's all.

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No. What's he done?

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Yeh, i saw it. Is he skint or something? Selling his soul to the devil there!

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http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...th-Fergie.html

Oh gawd, another footballer retires and now tells the world what we probably already know :(

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Berbatov scores apparently.

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Come on Wigan, hold on \o/

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2-0, hard work that. Top of the Prem, our best start for 10 seasons!

Anyone remember the bit in American Werewolf, just before he changes, he is watching TV and there is a Paper Exclusive, Naughty Nina (Nina Carter) in a tell all special. That Yorke thing is so much like it.

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Open goal from 2 yards out? Sounds about right.

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:D Come on, crack a smile :D

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Meh.

On a happier note, didn't Chelsea do well - nice one Mr Martinez :D

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A Manc and a Scouser agreeing on football for once! :D

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I'll go so far as saying I'm hoping for a scouse win next week :D

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With Cech out its certainly going to be interesting and the fact I'll be watching it in Amsterdam makes it even better ;)

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Nahhhh, a bore draw will do me, or a score draw as long as Bosingwa scores (fantasy team) - Liverpool winning takes away from UTD winning. Last thing we need is Torres getting back into the groove. Not until Benitez gets the flick and we buy him anyway.

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I think you may be too late ;)

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Don't say that.

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Ajax are away next week, unlucky that.

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I know yeh :(

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Was on the bus the other day and I overheard a conversation where the point being suggested is if Liverpool have another 'almost but not quite' season then a player of Torres' ability might get impatient and want to move to a club that consistantly wins trophies.....

Whereas that might be true I can honestly say I reckon there's more chance of Didier Dogbreath going a game without cheating than of the Scouse selling their top player (or joint top along with Gerrard) to United.

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I'm not sure the club would stand in the way, but his kids are honourary scousers and it'd be cruel to take them to Manc-land :p:

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If Torres went to United then to paraphrase Ricky Wilson, I'd predict a riot.

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Liverpool had the best chance EVER to win the Prem last season, they wont win it this year, I think Benitez will go. Once he goes Torres will go. Who can afford him? We tried to sign the lad twice, so he knows we are serious.

Listen, if Owen can score the winner in a Manc Derby ANYTHING is possible. I would be going all out for Torres and Fabregas next season.

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Some old fashioned hooliganism between Zenit St. Petersbourg and CSKA Moscow groups:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THlJ4SdWzPU

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Top class from Tevez, scored against west ham a minute ago and put his hand up to their fans to basically apologise.

That's how you're supposed to do it Mr Adebayor ;)

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The way i saw it, he'd already started running to celebrate and then changed his mind. The apology was for that, not for actually scoring against them.

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Either way, much more class than Adebayor.

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True. I expect Tevez wouldn't have celebrated even without the Adebayor incident happening.

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Grafite, Dzeko, Misimovic, Martins and co are going to overcome Man United tonight. Convincingly too.

If i'm wrong, please feel free to mock me and put it down to an overzealous love of German football. If i'm right, feel free to bask in my brilliance - and more importantly, Wolfsburg's.

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This was a wind up, right?

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Awesome goal by Berbatov!!!

No, that's a wind up....

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No worries, there's still the return match and Dzeko came through; i was right for about 2 minutes at least. ;)

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I can see it being a really tough game away, their strikers looked good on the counter attacks tonight so at home they should be good. Their defence doesn't look the best though, i thought it could have been 4 or 5 for United tonight.

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As much of a donkey as he might be, i thought he played pretty well. You basically took control of the game as soon as he came on.

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Oh yeah he had a good game. Can't score for toffee though.

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On another note, is it 9 in 7 now for Ronaldo?

I don't care what other people say, but for me he's the best player in the world without question, better then Messi, Kaka etc. I thought i would dislike him after he left United, but i have found myself being happy to see him scoring and doing well for Madrid. I find it astonishing how quickly he's adapted to Spanish football and is one of the reason's why he's the best in the world for me.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/8263504.stm

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The right decision if you ask me (i am a blue though), sport wouldn`t be sport if you couldn`t give the opposition fans some stick :angel:

Imagine how dull the game would be if there weren`t any away fans!

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It is weird though how an organisation like the FA can fine a player 25k and the UK courts can't impose any near a fine on actual criminals :nono:

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But 25k to Adebayor is about the same as £25 to a normal person.

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Still though you don;t see the courts fining footballers £25K for speeding!!!

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No, because they'd be tried in a criminal court. Adebayor was basically tried by the governing body. It's like the FIA giving McLaren that £100m fine a couple of years ago. No court of law would give them that, but a governing body would.

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Does anyone know what's going on a Spurs? The odds of Harry Rednapp leaving have been cut from 50/1 to 2/1. According to William Hill he is the most likely manager to leave beating Phil Brown who is priced at 3/1!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...Hart-Lane.html

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Allegedly an investigation to Redknapp's transfer dealings is coming to fruition soon and he is looking at being charged with tax evasion. If charged and found guilty he'd be looking at prison.

However, all well known ITKs within the club have said nothing's happened. Redknapp took training earlier and has just now gone into the press room for interviews about tomorrow's game.

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I thought he was cleared?

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Nope, this is something newer.

Its still all conjecture at the moment though. Apparently though a source within the NOTW has said they will be running a story this weekend. I'm presuming its about Redknapp but could be Spurs. The guy didn't elaborate, but was in the "Redknapp leaving?" thread.

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Well If it is true that "something" is about to happen, and that's a big if, it's a blow to spurs. What he has done there is very impressive! Where are you getting the NOTW thing?

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He's the investigation i'm talking about.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ttenham-police

Its a tax evasion issue rather than a transfer dealings issue like with the previous Lord Stevens investigation

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A mod on a Spurs forum at the moment.

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He denied he is leaving so it's seems like it was just a rumor.

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What were you expecting him to say?

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No Comment. Avoid the Press Conference. If he was about to resign or be fired then he wouldn't have spoken at all.

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If he is found guilty of tax evasion he might not have any choice. I can't see him getting day release to sit in a dugout lol.

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If that were pending then why would he attend the press conference?

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Are you being serious? How would it look if he didn't attend. I hope this is all hype, it would be a sad end to a great career that could just about be ready to reach its pinnacle.

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Until he's been convicted or at the very least charged he has to go on. Nothing may happen ultimately.

Most people have given up this but there is still the odd new rumour from alleged ITKs that there is definitely a legal issue outstanding and he may be sacked on monday. This may have something to do with a story in the NOTW tomorrow or it may be people having a wind up. We'll just have to see.

One thing I did notice in the press conference though at one point when one the journos was talking about him leaving he paused for a bit and twitched more than normal.

I should point out that this is still rumour and gossip at the moment.

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Good job Sunderland are no good, this would be a Cricket score v anyone of any use. Our pass completion rate to Sunderland players is higher than Sunderlands.

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100% Penalty though, not sure how blatant a handball needs to be, and facing the linesman. Suspect Hairdryer on all 11 for that. Utter crap.

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If we play like this against Liverpool I can see them easily hitting 6.

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Donkey scores?! What happened, did the ball go in off him as a rebound?

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Did you even see the goal? Change the flaming tune.

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This thread is now declared a humour-free zone....

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I don't care what SAF says, this United team is weaker than last years' and not investing in firepower is going to cost us the premiership this year - we can't rely on Old Trafford Overtime every week.

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United got lucky there!

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Without a doubt, we have sod all squad and £100Million sitting doing nothing. Anyone that can string three passes together will take us to pieces if we play like that. It's not like Sunderland did anything, same as Burnley, we have all the play and no idea what to do with it. Soon as Rooney has a bad game we do. To think, could have had Tuncay sitting on the bench, what did he cost? That "No Value In The Market" garbage Ferguson came out with will haunt him. And Joshua King should be getting a start ahead of Welbeck, Welbeck isn't close to 1st team ready. And King could be the next big thing for us. Lads a genius.

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Looks like its true...:

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php...mid=2124352021

Not managed to catch the papers and nothing on the website. Might go out after midnight and see if the local petrol station has a copy.

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Looks like he's just going to be questioned again, no charges at this stage.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/spor...this-week.html

*sigh* First time in 3 years we have a manager and a team that can really do something and we get all this ****...

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Seems a bit weak to be honest? The article makes it look like they don't really have much to charge him on otherwise they would have by now.

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Well he could still be charged (and the found guilty). Rounds of questioning isn't unusual even in solid cases.

Bit of background into what money is the issue here:

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/spor...naco-bank.html

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He got a million hush money when Rio went to Leeds to, bet the next bit of speculation is that he has been pocketing a slice from every deal and with the amount of transfers he has done :spin:

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6-2 \o/

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Yup. More important is the twice coming from behind! I was worried we would fail to capitalise on the dropped points by United and Spurs. As well as whoever drop points at Stamford Bridge.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/50.jpg
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/51.jpg

Shamelessly stolen from the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/g...pace-time-cont

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Boooooooo, that is shameful ;)

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SAF is a genius when you think about it. His team put in another poor performance, got lucky with a draw against Sunderland at home further dropping points against teams they should not. If this were Arsenal the obituary writers would be talking about our season in the past tense, how we don't have the squad, or the depth, or the money, or the looks, or the stadium, or the name to win the title. Liverpool are obviously getting that treatment now for losing against Chelsea away! A result which is not exactly fatal or unexpected.

However Fergie deflected by having a go at the ref! Now all the talk is about that instead of the game! He does it every time and every time it seems to work. That is impressive.

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Ukraine V England to be internet veiwing only

Not a chance, I might have to dust my radio off for this one unless this is affected as well :td:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/8286886.stm

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Do they really think people are going to pay £5 - £12 to watch this when you can watch it for free on dozens of other sites?

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No, I think it's an utter abomination to be honest. England matches should be on fta channels by law.

(admittedly this arose because none of the fta carriers would do it...)

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The FA don't have rights to the game. Only the home team do. In this case its Ukraine. So for once its not the horrible, money grabbing FA that is ruining the game.

Why this company have done this, **** knows. Noone in their right mind is going to cough up. They would have done better streaming it for free with an advert banner at the bottom.

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Ireland vs Italy will be a more interesting game anyway.

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It's probably an 'introductory' idea to see if it'll take off. When this sort of thing happens it's normally due to research from focus groups who do surveys asking how much people would be willing to pay. I never understand why those who answer that sort of survey don't respond with some ridiculously low price.

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Agreed :tu:

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This is laughable.............

:confused: That reminds me, I must buy "The Sun" tomorrow to find any other scintillating offers that they have.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...hesuncouk.html

:dozey:

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Would be nice for all home nation matches to be on tv 'by law'.

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Any one else see the City v Villa game last night? Thought it was an absolute cracker even though the keepers didn`t have much to do.
Draw was probably a fair result, neither team took the game bt the scuff the neck and wen`t for it. The De Jong tackle on Ashley Young was a cruncher, boy that guy looks "hard as nails".
Also thought Agbonlahor played well allthough he does seem to be an implulse player, give him a bit of time and he mucks it up(bit like Bellamy).
I suppose it just shows why the prem is such an alure for other countries and i think proved there are probaly 7 or 8 teams all in with a shout of getting top 4. Richard Dunne i take my hat of to you sir, you have more class in your little pinky than Adebayor has in that daddy long legs frame of his:Yes: Maybe you could teach him about manners!
Just why didn`t you play like that last year, you`d have still been at the club if you had.....

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6863865.ece

Apparently they were chanting "spurs are on their way auschwitz"

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I wasn't going to start a post about this because of the Campbell stuff, but.. yeah.

"Apparently is too kind". it is quite clearly the song they sung. We've been complaining about this for years from them. Nothing's really happened.

I mean, Abramovich is Jewish. Avram Grant is too. Apparently AG's dad walked out at the Carling Cup final over it.

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One in the eye for Liverpool fans.......

The Liverpool Echo

No doubt trying to heighten the rivalry btween the clubs :p:

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Good grief, is this a first ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/8300554.stm