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papa smurf 27-06-2009 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ginge51 (Post 34822666)
One Million People Have Swine Flu In US




http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...nfluenza_Virus

I've had a flu bug for 4 days now, constantly sneezing and have a runny nose all the time, I've gave it to 4 people, my mum, dad, freind and another freind.
Hope it ain't swine flu, but it is easing now which is very good.
1st flu i had had in about 4-5 years.

probably hayfever--half the west midlands thinks it flu:)

matt-h 27-06-2009 18:24

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Cases spotted at glastonbury

Should cause a bit of panic i suspect

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/8122559.stm

Kymmy 29-06-2009 15:07

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9yo girl with swine flu from Birmingham has just died, no word yet if the swine flu was the cause

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/8124781.stm

(gender corrected after IceStar pointed out the mistake..thanks)

iFrankie 29-06-2009 15:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34824037)
9yo boy with swine flu from Birmingham has just died, no word yet if the swine flu was the cause

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/8124781.stm

this seems to be getting worse and worser, where are these vaccinations?

icestar2 29-06-2009 15:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34824037)
9yo boy with swine flu from Birmingham has just died, no word yet if the swine flu was the cause

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/8124781.stm

9 Year old Girl. Not that it makes any diffrence ;)

Kymmy 29-06-2009 15:17

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:tu: tnx, corrected my original post

icestar2 29-06-2009 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34824046)
:tu: tnx, corrected my original post

Your welcome :) Hope you dont think I was nit-picking because I am much worse for making mistakes. Just if I hadn't said something you know someone else would of ;)

iFrankie 29-06-2009 15:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icestar2 (Post 34824047)
Your welcome :) Hope you dont think I was nit-picking because I am much worse for making mistakes. Just if I hadn't said something you know someone else would of ;)

im glad you spotted it! haha

Chris 29-06-2009 16:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie07 (Post 34824042)
this seems to be getting worse and worser, where are these vaccinations?


Won't be ready until the autumn - it takes time to grow.

Derek 29-06-2009 16:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie07 (Post 34824042)
this seems to be getting worse and worser, where are these vaccinations?

Not really. 3 people have died out of several thousand who have been infected and all three deaths were of people who have had serious underlying health issues on top of the swine flu.

No need to find a bunker in the woods just yet. :)

CHiLL 29-06-2009 16:19

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I had a headache last night, and woke up today with a runny nose, bowel issues, an itchy throat and an annoying cough. Looked up the symptoms of swine flu for giggles, and crapped myself, as everything I had was under the symptoms list.

Though everything seems fine now.

icestar2 29-06-2009 16:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CHiLL (Post 34824106)
I had a headache last night, and woke up today with a runny nose, bowel issues, an itchy throat and an annoying cough. Looked up the symptoms of swine flu for giggles, and crapped myself, as everything I had was under the symptoms list.

Though everything seems fine now.

Lol for giggle's ? I bet you did have an accident ;)

CHiLL 30-06-2009 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icestar2 (Post 34824130)
Lol for giggle's ? I bet you did have an accident ;)

It was more of a gradual thing, as I read down the list.

SMG 30-06-2009 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34824104)
Not really. 3 people have died out of several thousand who have been infected and all three deaths were of people who have had serious underlying health issues on top of the swine flu.

No need to find a bunker in the woods just yet. :)


Agreed. Although the virus is spreading quicker now, some 6300 I believe, the stats do show its not quite the killer it was made out to be. Time will tell.

Lets keep our fingers crossed!

Halcyon 01-07-2009 19:43

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At work we have just been issued with anti-bacterial sprays for our hands as we go around using a lot of different computers.

Hugh 01-07-2009 20:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 34825740)
At work we have just been issued with anti-bacterial sprays for our hands as we go around using a lot of different computers.

That's what we told our techies as well.....;)

Pog66 02-07-2009 11:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 34825740)
At work we have just been issued with anti-bacterial sprays for our hands as we go around using a lot of different computers.

Interestingly we have just had an email round saying that the anti-bacterial sprays will now be removed - perhaps more due to them discovering how much it was costing rather than on health grounds ;)

Derek 02-07-2009 13:16

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8130097.stm

Quote:

The rising number of swine flu cases mean trying to contain the virus is no longer an option, the government says.

Ministers said the emergency response would now move to a new "treatment" phase across the UK as there may soon be 100,000 new cases a day.
Ok now you can all hit the panic button ;)

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STONEISLAND 02-07-2009 13:47

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Big out break in Leicester now!!

I'm sitting here with a surgery mask on.

Hugh 02-07-2009 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34826096)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8130097.stm



Ok now you can all hit the panic button ;)

Nah, hit the "drama" button!

zing_deleted 02-07-2009 13:51

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100,000 a day means in 3 months everyone will have had or have it? government bull plop figures?

Tuftus 02-07-2009 14:59

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100,000 new cases a day?

Did it even get that bad in Mexico?

RizzyKing 02-07-2009 19:53

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100.000 a day eh i wonder what bad news the government is trying to hide after that little titbit came out to divert our attention. Still not panicing here and still don't have any intention of panicing anytime soon.

Halcyon 02-07-2009 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34826124)
Big out break in Leicester now!!

I'm sitting here with a surgery mask on.

I know several schools that have had 1 or 2 outbreaks, all being mild cases but some of the info in that newspaper article has been overly exagerated.

The schools are open as usual. One kid is back at school after having treatment and lessons are continuing as normal.

soicky 02-07-2009 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34826096)

well done you just me me crack my screen. thats the last time i listen to you.

---------- Post added at 00:49 ---------- Previous post was at 00:47 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 34826525)
I know several schools that have had 1 or 2 outbreaks, all being mild cases but some of the info in that newspaper article has been overly exagerated.

The schools are open as usual. One kid is back at school after having treatment and lessons are continuing as normal.

http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co....lough-schools/

21 schools with pupils with swine flu in my area. Guess i should say bye than.

bye

Gary L 14-07-2009 18:39

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There was a surgery where there was a guy outside stopping people going in and giving them a spray of the hands, a tie on face mask, and a pair of gloves to put on.

The procedure was he would stop them. put a fresh mask and gloves on himself. fully kit them out before entry, and throw his mask and gloves in the pedal bin.
when they came out he would again put on a fresh pair of gloves and mask and get them to put theirs in the bin. wait till they were a few feet away from him before he discarded his mask and gloves in the bin.

this went on and on till we got bored of watching.

Hom3r 14-07-2009 20:07

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A guy who works in our building (A senior manager) has apparently said tht he has swine flu :shocked:.

But this guy is a cock, he blames others for not doing work HE sould have done, and has passed the buck and get others to attend the monthly managers meeting in his place, and is the type to phone in dead to get out of something.

Now we are thinking WTF is going to happen?

A woman in the dept next to me is recoving from Pluracy, and I need to know because my mum is recovering from Breast Cancer and at a higher risk of infection.

LondonRoad 14-07-2009 22:38

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Hubby of a colleague has it. He phoned his doctor and told the receptionist his symptoms and thought they were similar to those indicated in the press may be swine flu. The receptionist gave him an appointment for that afternoon.

When he went to the medical centre the Doctor had a rant at him for coming to the medical centre with suspected swine flu and gave him a mask to put on. When he explained that he mentioned suspected swine flu to the receptionist he went out and had a fair old rant at reception. Apparently they couldn't identify who took the call so the morning part timer was getting the blame

Bloody shambles eh!

Anyway it's been confirmed that's what he's got and he's already on the mend apparently. I'm receiving updates second hand as I'm avoiding any contact with the colleague in question;)... just in case.

Paul 14-07-2009 22:54

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At least one pupil at my Daughters school is now off with swine flu.

lauzjp 15-07-2009 14:14

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a few of the kids on the estate where I live have had it. I'm kinda surprised I haven't caught it by now! oops:

CycoSymz 15-07-2009 16:28

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One of my workmates has gone to be tested. Hope he's clear, that's the last thing I need at the moment.

AntiSilence 15-07-2009 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flange (Post 34834289)
One of my workmates has gone to be tested. Hope he's clear, that's the last thing I need at the moment.

You're ok... I was chatting with him this morning before we were told about it! Lucky you being off... Apart from your pain of course lol

Hom3r 15-07-2009 18:45

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This is an email we received today.

Ladies and Gentlemen

As you know from our previous communications we have been put on level 5 at Stansted with regards to the AH1N1 swine flu outbreak in the UK. You are also probably aware that we have been preparing for a number years for such a situation and we have confidence in our preparations.

There has been some potential cases reported at our (Where I work) location and we have of course implemented our controls to protect our employees. The NHS in the UK will now not confirm cases, only offer treatment for symptoms as the strategy has now changed and this means we need to be more vigilant in ensuring that we contain any further cases.

As a precaution we will be imposing the following restrictions within the facility from today the 15th July.

1) No business travel either to of from the (Where I work) Facility for 14 days (16th - 30th July 2009). All arranged meetings will need to be conducted either via Video Conference or Tele Conference and all external (Clients & Suppliers) appointments will need to be rescheduled.

2) Please ensure that the personal hygiene and infection prevention guidelines are followed rigidly

3) We will begin weekly reporting by the management team to HR on a Wednesday via a spreadsheet that will be supplied shortly

4) Any person showing or feeling any of the symptoms of a cold or flu must stay at home, contact the NHS for guidance on treatment and inform their line manager immediately. Note the NHS website is www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publichealth/Flu/PandemicFlu/DH_065006

5) Any person staying at home with symptoms must do so for 4 days after the symptoms have ceased and maintain daily contact with your line manager

6) Self Certification will be required

I would like to thank you in advance for your support in (My company)’s actions going forward to ensure common sense prevails and that it is consistently applied and reduce the level of risk at (Where I work).

In addition to the current actions people should be taking to avoid infection, we will be placing additional sanitiser Gels in all Kitchens and Toilets and encourage you all to use these often.

If you have nay further questions then please do not hesitate to contact myself or xxxx

So having a mum who is a possble risk of infection victim, I asked the following.

Surely as two people have gone home with "Swine flu" symptoms, should (Where I work) not be shut for a number of days to stop the risk of any further spead of this to our colleges and our families?

He responded.

I appreciate your concerns, however this approach has been adopted within other (Company name) sites within the UK. The actual risk is low to all people and the steps we have taken are purely as a precaution. As mentioned in the previous email these plans have been prepared and reviewed several times over the last few years, and is based on common procedures used across the global business community. All countries that are also at Level 5 have implemented the same process in such a situation.

The situation is being monitored closely by the management team, and the UK crisis management team to ensure that suitable action are being taken.

So basically we can all go to work and possibly spread this and stuff us and our families, aslong as we do our job, (even though they are shutting us down).

Caspar 15-07-2009 19:55

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Work emailed us all this today:

Quote:

We are aware that we have sent a communication this week about Swine Flu, but as there is still a lot of media attention we thought it best to re-advise, as much of the advice given by the health authorities is not to panic.

Although the Health Authorities stance has gone from containment to treatment, it still remains: ‘Catch it, Bin it, Kill it’. However, if people feel they have contracted the virus they should stay at home, and contact their GP or Local Authority/NHS Direct to obtain advice and medication.

We have been lucky so far in that we have had no directly reported cases; however, the bigger risk is that someone who has the virus attends work, putting others at risk; so I am asking for your help with this.

Below are the symptoms of the virus, and those most vulnerable; please familiarize yourselves with these, and if you have any concerns over yourself or a member of your team, bearing in mind that this virus comes on suddenly, where a person can be fine in the morning and be showing the symptoms within a few hours, then I would ask that you contact HR and a decision can be made on what action should be taken. Should HR be unavailable please speak to your line manager.

Please also remember that YOU are responsible for reducing the spread or contraction of the Swine Flu virus or any other virus by doing the following:
• Regularly wipe your desk, keyboard mouse and phone with cleaning wipes, if you are in an office, wipe the meeting table, door handles etc. (this is because the cleaners only do this once a week)
• Regularly wash your hands throughout the day
• Use the anti-bacterial hand gel regularly throughout the day
• Abide by the 'Catch it, Bin it, Kill it' rule
• Don't come to work if you think you may have contracted the virus.
As an extra precaution we have placed some anti-bacterial hand gel on reception please use this as you enter and exit the building.

The symptoms of swine flu are broadly the same as those of ordinary flu, but may be more severe and cause more serious complications.

The typical symptoms are:
• sudden fever, and
• Sudden cough.
Other symptoms may include:
• headache,
• tiredness,
• chills,
• aching muscles,
• limb or joint pain,
• diarrhea or stomach upset,
• sore throat,
• runny nose,
• sneezing, and
• Loss of appetite.
Most people who have contracted swine flu recover within a week and do not suffer complications, even without being given antiviral medication.

However, experts point out that as this is a new virus; its behaviour cannot be predicted with certainty.

Swine flu is different from seasonal flu in that most serious illnesses have been in younger age groups, as happened in all three 20th-century influenza pandemics.

A doctor faced with a symptomatic patient cannot yet predict with certainty the course of their illness and whether or not they will be in the small proportion who may become more seriously ill.

This is why antiviral medication is still being given to all those with swine flu in the UK, subject to their doctor’s discretion.

High-risk groups

Some groups of people are more at risk of serious illness if they catch swine flu, and will need to start taking antiviral medication as soon as they are confirmed with the virus.
Scientists are still learning more about the risk profile of the virus, but it is already known that the following people are particularly susceptible:
• people with:
- chronic lung disease,
- chronic heart disease,
- chronic kidney disease,
- chronic liver disease,
- chronic neurological disease,
- immunosuppression (whether caused by
disease or treatment) and
- diabetes mellitus,
• patients who have had drug treatment for
asthma within the past three years,
• pregnant women,
• people aged 65 years and older, and
• young children under five years old.
It is vital that people in these higher-risk groups who catch swine flu get antivirals and start taking them as soon as possible.


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Apparantly someone at my daughter's pre-school (4yold) has the virus, aswell as the kids mother... don't know whether I should keep my one off. :(


Reading the symptoms of SwineFlu... I have all them tired, aching muscles, the *****, constant headache! :( though it's probably down to me starting a new job and I'm ded unfit!... ...the ***** is down to eating bad sugar based crap just to keep going lol!!!

Tuftus 15-07-2009 22:19

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That's all great... with my 'Bradford Index' if I get teh Swine Floo I will be sacked... for absenteeism... even if I follow 'government guidelines'.

I will miss the money, not the stress though.

Ah well, death will be the quiet option....

Derek 17-07-2009 07:44

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Who says Swine flu is all bad news? :)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...swine-flu.html

Quote:

Cherie Blair has become Britain's most high-profile victim of swine flu.

monkey2468 17-07-2009 09:40

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Just being told by school that my daughters nursery has an outbreak. They are not closing the school or class, but they said we are welcome to keep our kids away.

roadwolf 17-07-2009 11:00

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As a result of the increasing numbers of people visiting their GP with flu symptoms and because of the need to be able to give antivirals to increasing numbers of people quickly, the decision has been taken by Secretary of State for Health Andy Burnham to activate the National Pandemic Flu Service (NPFS) from the end of next week.



This means that from the end of next week, people in England will be able to access swine flu advice and treatment through this new service, rather than by visiting their GP. People diagnosed with swine flu will be given an authorisation code that a ‘flu friend’ – a friend or relative who does not have swine flu – can use to pick up antivirals from a local Antiviral Collection Point (ACP). It remains the case that those people identified as being at greater risk of serious complications, including all children under one year old, will be advised to contact their GP.

Extract of an email I recieved today.

superbiatch 17-07-2009 23:50

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I know that in the area I work in we are setting up anti-viral clinics for those already diagnosed. One of my staff has volunteered herself to be a meeter/greeter and to signpost these people to treatment. I'm not particularly happy about it given that this member of staff has asthma and angina (for which she is undergoing tests for to find out the severity).

I have to admit I was rather cynical about swine flu but now I'm of the frame of mind its probably best to get it now as its coming in waves and the more who get it, the more severe it will be. The way I see it, get it now and build up immunity if you are fit and healthy - but i must stress this is my opinion and not that of the NHS ;)

webcrawler2050 18-07-2009 00:18

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I know about 20 people, who have it in the Swindon area - including friends little ones - pills are given, they get over it! Done!

zing_deleted 18-07-2009 09:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 34836183)
I know that in the area I work in we are setting up anti-viral clinics for those already diagnosed. One of my staff has volunteered herself to be a meeter/greeter and to signpost these people to treatment. I'm not particularly happy about it given that this member of staff has asthma and angina (for which she is undergoing tests for to find out the severity).

I have to admit I was rather cynical about swine flu but now I'm of the frame of mind its probably best to get it now as its coming in waves and the more who get it, the more severe it will be. The way I see it, get it now and build up immunity if you are fit and healthy - but i must stress this is my opinion and not that of the NHS ;)

This Flu is already acting differently than expected with its spread increasing into the better weather where they thought it would have peaked and who knows how long it willbe or if the virus will mutate in such a way as to render antivirals useless. I do tend to agree it may well be better to catch it now

joglynne 18-07-2009 10:20

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My husband has asthma and I have an immune system that tries it's best to polish me off if it gets triggered by any viral infection.

We are not looking forward to the next few months. :(

superbiatch 18-07-2009 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 34836297)
My husband has asthma and I have an immune system that tries it's best to polish me off if it gets triggered by any viral infection.

We are not looking forward to the next few months. :(

Hopefully you'll be top priority for the vaccine Jo, but its not expected to be ready until October now :(

Russ 18-07-2009 13:39

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Took my daughter to an indoor adventure world for kids this morning and I couldn't get over how some parents were totally oblivious to their kids coughing and spluttering without covering their mouths. It might not give perfect protection against germs and viruses but it's something however these parents just didn't seem to care. Annoyed the hell out of me.

Russ 21-07-2009 13:35

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ok guys I'm going to be working in the swine flu callcentre from thursday, any information I get about it I'm authorised to pass on so I'll keep you all treated.

zing_deleted 21-07-2009 13:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838146)
ok guys I'm going to be working in the swine flu callcentre from thursday, any information I get about it I'm authorised to pass on so I'll keep you all treated.


good to have someone on the inside :)

Pierre 21-07-2009 13:47

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Yes I can see the converstaion going something like:

A: I think I have swine flu

B: what are your symptoms?

A: Like the flu.

B: Could you be more specific I have a check card here:

Any from:

fever that comes on quickly (38-40C; 100-104F),
sweating and feeling feverish,
general muscle aches and pains,
a feeling of general tiredness,
dry, chesty cough,
sneezing,
running or blocked nose, and
difficulty sleeping.

Will do.

A: Yes, I got most of them.

B: ooh you might have flu then.

A: What should I do?

B: Stay at home, drink plenty of water, stay warm, I'll give you a reference number and your "flu friend" can nip down to the pharmacy and get you some Tamiflu.

There you go, piece of the preverbial.

Then that goes down on record as a confirmed case of swine flu, when it's more than likely a bad cold, or seasonal flu and the numbers for the "pandemic" in the country grow exponentially making it look like the country is on the brink of collapse.

When all that needed is a warm bed and a packet of Beechams.

If you've got children fair enough, if you're elderly fair enough - get some tamiflu or a flu jab but will the rest of the country stop flapping and get on with it.

zing_deleted 21-07-2009 13:49

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The thing is if you do not have a fever you do not have swine flu thats the one thing out of all the symptoms thats constant

Seasonal flu is also rare this time of year so there will not be many cases

Tamiflu is a preventative as well as a symptom stopper but they are not going to give anyoen more than 1 dose I imagine so anyone calling with a cold and taking Tamiflu are gonna be doing theirselves no favours. As a preventative its untested but you woudl need enough tabs for the rest of the year at least so is not worth scamming some pills

STONEISLAND 21-07-2009 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838146)
ok guys I'm going to be working in the swine flu callcentre from thursday, any information I get about it I'm authorised to pass on so I'll keep you all treated.

I have a good question.

What if my Son gets it, my employer has said that I can have a couple of days of work to ‘find alternative arrangements’ (get someone to look after him)

Now surely no one will want to look after him if he gets Swine flu? Surely I cannot go into work myself if my son has it I’d be putting others at risk! Surely that’s a bad idea? The problem is you’re only aloud 1 week maternity leave it will take over a week him to get over it!!!!!

Not that my son has it. :angel:

Pierre 21-07-2009 14:00

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The Joy's of parenthood.

Your kid, your problem.

You could always ask for unpaid leave.

STONEISLAND 21-07-2009 14:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34838173)
The Joy's of parenthood.

Your kid, your problem.

You could always ask for unpaid leave.

Unpaid leave? :rofl:
Not a problem I will send him back to nursery and I will go into work and hope we don’t spread it. :dozey:

fireman328 21-07-2009 14:30

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:)The good news is, us oldies have better chance of surviving

Russ 21-07-2009 15:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34838173)
Your kid, your problem.

Fortunately we'll be more sympathetic than that.

What will happen is if you're in England or are registered with a GP in England you can call us if you or someone you're looking after has symptoms.

We'll ask a series of questions and if it leads us to suspect you have swine flu we'll designate you a special code which you must write down or remember as you will not be given another under any circumstances. Take that code (or preferably get someone to take it for you) along to a designated treatment point and you'll be given antiviral medicine.

Pierre 21-07-2009 15:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838209)
Fortunately we'll be more sympathetic than that.

What will happen is if you're in England or are registered with a GP in England you can call us if you or someone you're looking after has symptoms.

We'll ask a series of questions and if it leads us to suspect you have swine flu we'll designate you a special code which you must write down or remember as you will not be given another under any circumstances. Take that code (or preferably get someone to take it for you) along to a designated treatment point and you'll be given antiviral medicine.

Which is what I said in my earlier post:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34838160-post649.html

which will result in dishing out Tamiflu to anyone with a bad cold.

Wont help with his kiddy situation either.

Russ 21-07-2009 15:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34838217)
Which is what I said in my earlier post:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34838160-post649.html

which will result in dishing out Tamiflu to anyone with a bad cold.

Wont help with his kiddy situation either.

No, we won't be 'dishing out Tamiflu to anyone with a bad cold'. There are ways of telling the difference and it won't be Tamiflu.

Pierre 21-07-2009 15:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838221)
No, we won't be 'dishing out Tamiflu to anyone with a bad cold'. There are ways of telling the difference and it won't be Tamiflu.

Fair enough.

But, and I'm not having a go at you or anyone who's working on this hotline, it's not your fault, you're providing a service - so hats off.

How can anyone, especially (and I assume) someone not from a medical background accurately give a diagnosis, especially a diagnosis over the phone.

Also if you suspect they have "a" flu. Will you automatically prescribe the anti-viral? or will you based on their age and fitness tell them to just to ride it out, as millions do each year?

Russ 21-07-2009 15:40

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Ok there are things I can't go in to in case someone takes the information and 'modifies' their answers so that they can get the treatment when in fact all they have is a cold.

We're not doctors, we have no medical training however we'll be following a script which has been written by qualified medical professionals. Most answers will be either yes or no and some are pretty specific so we'll get a very good idea of what illness they've got.

It's also important to stress we won't be 'prescribing' anything in the ways doctors do. It's more a case of if their symptoms qualify them for the antiviral medicine.

Jules 21-07-2009 16:18

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All three of us in my house are classed as "high risk" and as such will be able to have the jab as soon as it comes in to the docs, the thing is I am a little worried because it has been rushed through and as such just how safe is it? Damned if you do damned if you don't lol

Caspar 21-07-2009 17:48

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I've come down with something over the last few days...headache...cloudy head, nervous system VERY sensitive, achy joints, runny/blocked nose, dodgy sensistive to noise ear drums...sore throat, chesty cough.

I don't have a fever :) So...I mustn't have swine flu :)

Must be just a cold!

superbiatch 21-07-2009 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838221)
No, we won't be 'dishing out Tamiflu to anyone with a bad cold'. There are ways of telling the difference and it won't be Tamiflu.

Its also quite possible that if you or someone else needs tamiflu, whoever attends the anti-viral clinic will be asked to provide ID. I know this is happening in my area and is being implmented in others. They are very strict on this, no ID, no tamiflu.

Good luck with the job Russ :tu:

Russ 21-07-2009 21:53

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Thanks - and yes you're right, the friend will have to produce ID for themselves and the patient.

icestar2 21-07-2009 21:54

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I'm not clued up on the in's and out's of this virus but whats the chances of everyone in the household getting it once one has ? I would of thought its high and isn't sending someone from the house to get the AV drugs risking spreading the infection further ?

Sorry if this has been asked or answered before. Its a very long thread and it would take to long to read through it all.

AntiSilence 21-07-2009 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 34838480)
They are very strict on this, no ID, no tamiflu.

What do they accept as ID? If it has to be photo ID then I'd best hope I don't catch it.

superbiatch 21-07-2009 22:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AntiSilence (Post 34838507)
What do they accept as ID? If it has to be photo ID then I'd best hope I don't catch it.

I'm not 100% sure but I would assume passport, driving licence, birth certificate, marriage certificate would be accepted, at a push maybe benefits book or work photo ID.

Jimmy-J 21-07-2009 22:12

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I wonder how many will actually take the antiviral when offered it? Don't think I would! Call me "Mr Paranoia" but no vaccine for me thank you.

AntiSilence 21-07-2009 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 34838510)
I'm not 100% sure but I would assume passport, driving licence, birth certificate, marriage certificate would be accepted, at a push maybe benefits book or work photo ID.

Lol... Out of all those I have a birth certificate! LOL

zing_deleted 21-07-2009 22:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Product 13 (Post 34838511)
I wonder how many will actually take the antiviral when offered it? Don't think I would! Call me "Mr Paranoia" but no vaccine for me thank you.


Are you getting mixed up? the antiviral Tamiflu when taken within 2 days of symptoms slows the virus spreading through the body when taken as a preventative i provides a coating to the upper respiratory tract stopping infection taking ( I believe)

A vaccine is dead virus cells injected into the system forcing your immune system to develop a response

Russ 21-07-2009 22:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AntiSilence (Post 34838507)
What do they accept as ID? If it has to be photo ID then I'd best hope I don't catch it.

I've got a list of accepted documents, I'll post it in the morning. It's pretty extensive though.

AntiSilence 21-07-2009 23:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838530)
I've got a list of accepted documents, I'll post it in the morning. It's pretty extensive though.

:tu:

I'll be okay if birth certificate and bank cards are on the list. Oh, and HMRC tax coding notices as well. I'd rather just not catch it in the first place, though I think it's bound to happen to most of us at some point.

nffc 22-07-2009 00:13

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As it seems to be relatively mild I would rather get it now than if it came back in a more severe form...

Julian 22-07-2009 07:46

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Seems you've made it into the newspapers Russ :D

Article

joglynne 22-07-2009 08:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian (Post 34838608)
Seems you've made it into the newspapers Russ :D

Article

Well I for one hope that this newspaper report isn't accurate.

I assume that the reason the majority of people will be contacting the centre is because think they, or a member of their family, have Swine Flu. If they are not reassured by, or helped by, the people manning the emergency swine flu call centres it will defeat the object of the centres as I am sure that the public will feel they have to double check with their GPs or go into A & E where they can be seen by a Doctor. I dread to think how the surgeries or hospitals could hope to function if they are swamped in such a way.

If I am unfortunate enough to have to contact the emergency centre I want Russ to answer the phone please.

Russ 22-07-2009 08:29

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Not surprisingly that article is a pile of horse ****. I have no idea if immigrants have been taken on but the requirement to speak English is paramount as that's the only language the advice will be available in. During training it was asked if other languages would be on offer and we were told no, as this is an emergency line which has been rushed out so as a result there will only be one language. Even if the operator can speak another language, they must only use English.

Anyway, for adults the accepted forms of identification are:

Full driving licence
Paid utility bill (not older than 6 months)
Building society/national savings book
Cheque guarantee/credit/debit card
Cheque book
Credit card statement (not older than 6 months)
Council tax payment book
Birth/marriage certificate
Passport/european ID card
Military ID
Standard acknowledgement letter issues by the Home Office for Asylum Seekers
Child Benefit letter
NHS card/number

And for children...

NHS card
Parent held record (red book)
Passport
Birth certificate.

Jimmy-J 22-07-2009 09:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34838524)
Are you getting mixed up? the antiviral Tamiflu when taken within 2 days of symptoms slows the virus spreading through the body when taken as a preventative i provides a coating to the upper respiratory tract stopping infection taking ( I believe)

A vaccine is dead virus cells injected into the system forcing your immune system to develop a response

Yeah, all the time Zing... All the time.

zing_deleted 22-07-2009 10:00

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man I know that feeling :)

Damien 22-07-2009 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Product 13 (Post 34838511)
I wonder how many will actually take the antiviral when offered it? Don't think I would! Call me "Mr Paranoia" but no vaccine for me thank you.

I'd rather get the vaccine, when it arrives, then get Swine Flu. :erm:

lauzjp 22-07-2009 10:44

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I'd rather have swine flu than norovirus again. Although saying that, Anton is asthmatic, so I'd have to hope that he wouldn't get it. :rolleyes:

STONEISLAND 22-07-2009 11:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838620)
as this is an emergency line which has been rushed out so as a result there will only be one language. Even if the operator can speak another language, they must only use English.

:clap: At last some common sense, I feel all at home now!!! :)

Russ 22-07-2009 12:00

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ok we're going live tomorrow, if you need to call do not use a pay as you go phone as we cannot call you back under any circumstances even if you run out of credit. Also if the call drops and you ring back you'll have to start the questions all over again.

lauzjp 22-07-2009 12:34

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can we continue to ask questions on here, or do we have to phone you on an 0870 number or something? oops:

Russ 22-07-2009 13:19

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I'll answer as much as I can here. By the way we go live 8am tomorrow.

AntiSilence 22-07-2009 15:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838620)
Anyway, for adults the accepted forms of identification are: [snip]

Thanks Russ. I've got some of those so will be okay if needs be.

Russ 22-07-2009 15:46

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Just to add, the line will be open 8am to midnight initially.

nffc 22-07-2009 16:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838899)
Just to add, the line will be open 8am to midnight initially.

Can't people get pigcold between midnight and 8am then? :p

Russ 22-07-2009 16:51

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They can but they'll need to wait til 8am to tell us :)

superbiatch 22-07-2009 16:58

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This is totally getting out of hand in work. We've been told today that all non-essential services (ours being one of them) are to come to a halt while all staff will have to take turns on a rota to man the anti-viral clinics. We have over 100 staff in the health improvement team and we're all being rota'd in for our hours on a 7 day week, 8am to 8pm clinic rota.

Well when our target is missed because of pulling the whole team out and shutting down the service - i hope they remember that. Service reputation is hard to build up and its not something you can get back overnight. Sorry, rant over.

nffc 22-07-2009 17:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838936)
They can but they'll need to wait til 8am to tell us :)

Haha.

Personally I don't think that phone diagnosis ever really works, but hey, if it lightens the strain on other areas it is going to work. Even so, I don't really believe the number of cases - some people might not have it but because they're not swabbing and have a bad cold, which is possible in summer, then they're being told they have flu, etc. As for tamiflu-resistance...

Plus there's always the problem of saying it is flu when in reality it is something more serious - meningitis, for example. If possible, cases should be followed up if there is a possibility it could be something else.

As for the sending a "flu friend", who is likely a close contact of someone who has an infectious virus (so may well be infectious and not have symptoms) out to collect something... it should be delivered.

Russ 22-07-2009 17:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34838953)
As for the sending a "flu friend", who is likely a close contact of someone who has an infectious virus (so may well be infectious and not have symptoms) out to collect something... it should be delivered.

The person/people doing the delivery would be at risk of spreading it even further.

nffc 22-07-2009 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838957)
The person/people doing the delivery would be at risk of spreading it even further.

Not if they just dropped it through the mailbox... Admittedly, if they actually had contact with them, then yes.

I'm also thinking a lot of people are losing perspective - it's flu. Just a new strain.

superbiatch 22-07-2009 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34838970)
Not if they just dropped it through the mailbox... Admittedly, if they actually had contact with them, then yes.

I'm also thinking a lot of people are losing perspective - it's flu. Just a new strain.

Thats what they were doing, but there are too many cases now.

And i agree totally, its just flu and we'll probably all get it and get over it as quick as it came. Those who are higher risk (pregnant women, children, older people and those with other health conditions) are the ones who should be high priority for NHS services.

Russ 22-07-2009 18:21

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There could be a political element to this? To see how well the system copes if something really nasty went around? Just a thought.

Julian 22-07-2009 18:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34838986)
There could be a political element to this? To see how well the system copes if something really nasty went around? Just a thought.

Or it could be a chance for Gord to claim that the government saved the country if it dies down before next May.

That'd be ironic, MP's caught with their snouts in the trough and swine flu saves their bacon. :)

Maggy 22-07-2009 18:34

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle6722616.ece

Quote:

An otherwise healthy child who died after contracting swine flu had a rare and deadly combination of infections, it emerged last night.
Chloe Buckley’s death prompted widespread concerns about the risk posed to children by the virus. A post-mortem examination has shown that she also had a serious bacterial infection caused by streptococcus A, which led to tonsillitis and blood poisoning.
:(

lauzjp 23-07-2009 11:54

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good grief, that poor child. :(

Russ 23-07-2009 17:32

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The lines finally went live at about 1pm after a few problems. Calls were really slow, I took 5 and arranged Tamiflu for 3 of them.

nffc 23-07-2009 18:43

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Slow as in the lines were quiet or the calls took a long time to deal with?

Russ 23-07-2009 18:46

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They were dead quiet, some people hadn't taken any calls all day. All my calls lasted about 10 minutes though.

nffc 23-07-2009 19:08

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Can't be too bad then...

Sir John Luke 23-07-2009 19:14

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Maybe they are limiting calls to Welsh call centres to leave some spare capacity for when/if the service goes live for people IN Wales?

Russ 24-07-2009 10:47

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Calls coming in thick and fast now, plenty of 'worried well' trying to blag treatment too.


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