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Cases spotted at glastonbury
Should cause a bit of panic i suspect http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/8122559.stm |
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9yo girl with swine flu from Birmingham has just died, no word yet if the swine flu was the cause
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/8124781.stm (gender corrected after IceStar pointed out the mistake..thanks) |
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Won't be ready until the autumn - it takes time to grow. |
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No need to find a bunker in the woods just yet. :) |
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I had a headache last night, and woke up today with a runny nose, bowel issues, an itchy throat and an annoying cough. Looked up the symptoms of swine flu for giggles, and crapped myself, as everything I had was under the symptoms list.
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Agreed. Although the virus is spreading quicker now, some 6300 I believe, the stats do show its not quite the killer it was made out to be. Time will tell. Lets keep our fingers crossed! |
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At work we have just been issued with anti-bacterial sprays for our hands as we go around using a lot of different computers.
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Big out break in Leicester now!!
I'm sitting here with a surgery mask on. |
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100,000 a day means in 3 months everyone will have had or have it? government bull plop figures?
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100,000 new cases a day?
Did it even get that bad in Mexico? |
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100.000 a day eh i wonder what bad news the government is trying to hide after that little titbit came out to divert our attention. Still not panicing here and still don't have any intention of panicing anytime soon.
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The schools are open as usual. One kid is back at school after having treatment and lessons are continuing as normal. |
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21 schools with pupils with swine flu in my area. Guess i should say bye than. bye |
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There was a surgery where there was a guy outside stopping people going in and giving them a spray of the hands, a tie on face mask, and a pair of gloves to put on.
The procedure was he would stop them. put a fresh mask and gloves on himself. fully kit them out before entry, and throw his mask and gloves in the pedal bin. when they came out he would again put on a fresh pair of gloves and mask and get them to put theirs in the bin. wait till they were a few feet away from him before he discarded his mask and gloves in the bin. this went on and on till we got bored of watching. |
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A guy who works in our building (A senior manager) has apparently said tht he has swine flu :shocked:.
But this guy is a cock, he blames others for not doing work HE sould have done, and has passed the buck and get others to attend the monthly managers meeting in his place, and is the type to phone in dead to get out of something. Now we are thinking WTF is going to happen? A woman in the dept next to me is recoving from Pluracy, and I need to know because my mum is recovering from Breast Cancer and at a higher risk of infection. |
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Hubby of a colleague has it. He phoned his doctor and told the receptionist his symptoms and thought they were similar to those indicated in the press may be swine flu. The receptionist gave him an appointment for that afternoon.
When he went to the medical centre the Doctor had a rant at him for coming to the medical centre with suspected swine flu and gave him a mask to put on. When he explained that he mentioned suspected swine flu to the receptionist he went out and had a fair old rant at reception. Apparently they couldn't identify who took the call so the morning part timer was getting the blame Bloody shambles eh! Anyway it's been confirmed that's what he's got and he's already on the mend apparently. I'm receiving updates second hand as I'm avoiding any contact with the colleague in question;)... just in case. |
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At least one pupil at my Daughters school is now off with swine flu.
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a few of the kids on the estate where I live have had it. I'm kinda surprised I haven't caught it by now! oops:
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One of my workmates has gone to be tested. Hope he's clear, that's the last thing I need at the moment.
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This is an email we received today.
Ladies and Gentlemen As you know from our previous communications we have been put on level 5 at Stansted with regards to the AH1N1 swine flu outbreak in the UK. You are also probably aware that we have been preparing for a number years for such a situation and we have confidence in our preparations. There has been some potential cases reported at our (Where I work) location and we have of course implemented our controls to protect our employees. The NHS in the UK will now not confirm cases, only offer treatment for symptoms as the strategy has now changed and this means we need to be more vigilant in ensuring that we contain any further cases. As a precaution we will be imposing the following restrictions within the facility from today the 15th July. 1) No business travel either to of from the (Where I work) Facility for 14 days (16th - 30th July 2009). All arranged meetings will need to be conducted either via Video Conference or Tele Conference and all external (Clients & Suppliers) appointments will need to be rescheduled. 2) Please ensure that the personal hygiene and infection prevention guidelines are followed rigidly 3) We will begin weekly reporting by the management team to HR on a Wednesday via a spreadsheet that will be supplied shortly 4) Any person showing or feeling any of the symptoms of a cold or flu must stay at home, contact the NHS for guidance on treatment and inform their line manager immediately. Note the NHS website is www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publichealth/Flu/PandemicFlu/DH_065006 5) Any person staying at home with symptoms must do so for 4 days after the symptoms have ceased and maintain daily contact with your line manager 6) Self Certification will be required I would like to thank you in advance for your support in (My company)’s actions going forward to ensure common sense prevails and that it is consistently applied and reduce the level of risk at (Where I work). In addition to the current actions people should be taking to avoid infection, we will be placing additional sanitiser Gels in all Kitchens and Toilets and encourage you all to use these often. If you have nay further questions then please do not hesitate to contact myself or xxxx So having a mum who is a possble risk of infection victim, I asked the following. Surely as two people have gone home with "Swine flu" symptoms, should (Where I work) not be shut for a number of days to stop the risk of any further spead of this to our colleges and our families? He responded. I appreciate your concerns, however this approach has been adopted within other (Company name) sites within the UK. The actual risk is low to all people and the steps we have taken are purely as a precaution. As mentioned in the previous email these plans have been prepared and reviewed several times over the last few years, and is based on common procedures used across the global business community. All countries that are also at Level 5 have implemented the same process in such a situation. The situation is being monitored closely by the management team, and the UK crisis management team to ensure that suitable action are being taken. So basically we can all go to work and possibly spread this and stuff us and our families, aslong as we do our job, (even though they are shutting us down). |
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That's all great... with my 'Bradford Index' if I get teh Swine Floo I will be sacked... for absenteeism... even if I follow 'government guidelines'.
I will miss the money, not the stress though. Ah well, death will be the quiet option.... |
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Who says Swine flu is all bad news? :)
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Just being told by school that my daughters nursery has an outbreak. They are not closing the school or class, but they said we are welcome to keep our kids away.
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As a result of the increasing numbers of people visiting their GP with flu symptoms and because of the need to be able to give antivirals to increasing numbers of people quickly, the decision has been taken by Secretary of State for Health Andy Burnham to activate the National Pandemic Flu Service (NPFS) from the end of next week.
This means that from the end of next week, people in England will be able to access swine flu advice and treatment through this new service, rather than by visiting their GP. People diagnosed with swine flu will be given an authorisation code that a ‘flu friend’ – a friend or relative who does not have swine flu – can use to pick up antivirals from a local Antiviral Collection Point (ACP). It remains the case that those people identified as being at greater risk of serious complications, including all children under one year old, will be advised to contact their GP. Extract of an email I recieved today. |
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I know that in the area I work in we are setting up anti-viral clinics for those already diagnosed. One of my staff has volunteered herself to be a meeter/greeter and to signpost these people to treatment. I'm not particularly happy about it given that this member of staff has asthma and angina (for which she is undergoing tests for to find out the severity).
I have to admit I was rather cynical about swine flu but now I'm of the frame of mind its probably best to get it now as its coming in waves and the more who get it, the more severe it will be. The way I see it, get it now and build up immunity if you are fit and healthy - but i must stress this is my opinion and not that of the NHS ;) |
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I know about 20 people, who have it in the Swindon area - including friends little ones - pills are given, they get over it! Done!
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My husband has asthma and I have an immune system that tries it's best to polish me off if it gets triggered by any viral infection.
We are not looking forward to the next few months. :( |
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Took my daughter to an indoor adventure world for kids this morning and I couldn't get over how some parents were totally oblivious to their kids coughing and spluttering without covering their mouths. It might not give perfect protection against germs and viruses but it's something however these parents just didn't seem to care. Annoyed the hell out of me.
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ok guys I'm going to be working in the swine flu callcentre from thursday, any information I get about it I'm authorised to pass on so I'll keep you all treated.
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Yes I can see the converstaion going something like:
A: I think I have swine flu B: what are your symptoms? A: Like the flu. B: Could you be more specific I have a check card here: Any from: fever that comes on quickly (38-40C; 100-104F), sweating and feeling feverish, general muscle aches and pains, a feeling of general tiredness, dry, chesty cough, sneezing, running or blocked nose, and difficulty sleeping. Will do. A: Yes, I got most of them. B: ooh you might have flu then. A: What should I do? B: Stay at home, drink plenty of water, stay warm, I'll give you a reference number and your "flu friend" can nip down to the pharmacy and get you some Tamiflu. There you go, piece of the preverbial. Then that goes down on record as a confirmed case of swine flu, when it's more than likely a bad cold, or seasonal flu and the numbers for the "pandemic" in the country grow exponentially making it look like the country is on the brink of collapse. When all that needed is a warm bed and a packet of Beechams. If you've got children fair enough, if you're elderly fair enough - get some tamiflu or a flu jab but will the rest of the country stop flapping and get on with it. |
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The thing is if you do not have a fever you do not have swine flu thats the one thing out of all the symptoms thats constant
Seasonal flu is also rare this time of year so there will not be many cases Tamiflu is a preventative as well as a symptom stopper but they are not going to give anyoen more than 1 dose I imagine so anyone calling with a cold and taking Tamiflu are gonna be doing theirselves no favours. As a preventative its untested but you woudl need enough tabs for the rest of the year at least so is not worth scamming some pills |
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What if my Son gets it, my employer has said that I can have a couple of days of work to ‘find alternative arrangements’ (get someone to look after him) Now surely no one will want to look after him if he gets Swine flu? Surely I cannot go into work myself if my son has it I’d be putting others at risk! Surely that’s a bad idea? The problem is you’re only aloud 1 week maternity leave it will take over a week him to get over it!!!!! Not that my son has it. :angel: |
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The Joy's of parenthood.
Your kid, your problem. You could always ask for unpaid leave. |
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Not a problem I will send him back to nursery and I will go into work and hope we don’t spread it. :dozey: |
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:)The good news is, us oldies have better chance of surviving
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What will happen is if you're in England or are registered with a GP in England you can call us if you or someone you're looking after has symptoms. We'll ask a series of questions and if it leads us to suspect you have swine flu we'll designate you a special code which you must write down or remember as you will not be given another under any circumstances. Take that code (or preferably get someone to take it for you) along to a designated treatment point and you'll be given antiviral medicine. |
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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34838160-post649.html which will result in dishing out Tamiflu to anyone with a bad cold. Wont help with his kiddy situation either. |
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But, and I'm not having a go at you or anyone who's working on this hotline, it's not your fault, you're providing a service - so hats off. How can anyone, especially (and I assume) someone not from a medical background accurately give a diagnosis, especially a diagnosis over the phone. Also if you suspect they have "a" flu. Will you automatically prescribe the anti-viral? or will you based on their age and fitness tell them to just to ride it out, as millions do each year? |
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Ok there are things I can't go in to in case someone takes the information and 'modifies' their answers so that they can get the treatment when in fact all they have is a cold.
We're not doctors, we have no medical training however we'll be following a script which has been written by qualified medical professionals. Most answers will be either yes or no and some are pretty specific so we'll get a very good idea of what illness they've got. It's also important to stress we won't be 'prescribing' anything in the ways doctors do. It's more a case of if their symptoms qualify them for the antiviral medicine. |
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All three of us in my house are classed as "high risk" and as such will be able to have the jab as soon as it comes in to the docs, the thing is I am a little worried because it has been rushed through and as such just how safe is it? Damned if you do damned if you don't lol
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I've come down with something over the last few days...headache...cloudy head, nervous system VERY sensitive, achy joints, runny/blocked nose, dodgy sensistive to noise ear drums...sore throat, chesty cough.
I don't have a fever :) So...I mustn't have swine flu :) Must be just a cold! |
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Thanks - and yes you're right, the friend will have to produce ID for themselves and the patient.
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I'm not clued up on the in's and out's of this virus but whats the chances of everyone in the household getting it once one has ? I would of thought its high and isn't sending someone from the house to get the AV drugs risking spreading the infection further ?
Sorry if this has been asked or answered before. Its a very long thread and it would take to long to read through it all. |
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I wonder how many will actually take the antiviral when offered it? Don't think I would! Call me "Mr Paranoia" but no vaccine for me thank you.
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Are you getting mixed up? the antiviral Tamiflu when taken within 2 days of symptoms slows the virus spreading through the body when taken as a preventative i provides a coating to the upper respiratory tract stopping infection taking ( I believe) A vaccine is dead virus cells injected into the system forcing your immune system to develop a response |
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I'll be okay if birth certificate and bank cards are on the list. Oh, and HMRC tax coding notices as well. I'd rather just not catch it in the first place, though I think it's bound to happen to most of us at some point. |
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As it seems to be relatively mild I would rather get it now than if it came back in a more severe form...
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I assume that the reason the majority of people will be contacting the centre is because think they, or a member of their family, have Swine Flu. If they are not reassured by, or helped by, the people manning the emergency swine flu call centres it will defeat the object of the centres as I am sure that the public will feel they have to double check with their GPs or go into A & E where they can be seen by a Doctor. I dread to think how the surgeries or hospitals could hope to function if they are swamped in such a way. If I am unfortunate enough to have to contact the emergency centre I want Russ to answer the phone please. |
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Not surprisingly that article is a pile of horse ****. I have no idea if immigrants have been taken on but the requirement to speak English is paramount as that's the only language the advice will be available in. During training it was asked if other languages would be on offer and we were told no, as this is an emergency line which has been rushed out so as a result there will only be one language. Even if the operator can speak another language, they must only use English.
Anyway, for adults the accepted forms of identification are: Full driving licence Paid utility bill (not older than 6 months) Building society/national savings book Cheque guarantee/credit/debit card Cheque book Credit card statement (not older than 6 months) Council tax payment book Birth/marriage certificate Passport/european ID card Military ID Standard acknowledgement letter issues by the Home Office for Asylum Seekers Child Benefit letter NHS card/number And for children... NHS card Parent held record (red book) Passport Birth certificate. |
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I'd rather have swine flu than norovirus again. Although saying that, Anton is asthmatic, so I'd have to hope that he wouldn't get it. :rolleyes:
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ok we're going live tomorrow, if you need to call do not use a pay as you go phone as we cannot call you back under any circumstances even if you run out of credit. Also if the call drops and you ring back you'll have to start the questions all over again.
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can we continue to ask questions on here, or do we have to phone you on an 0870 number or something? oops:
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I'll answer as much as I can here. By the way we go live 8am tomorrow.
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Just to add, the line will be open 8am to midnight initially.
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They can but they'll need to wait til 8am to tell us :)
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This is totally getting out of hand in work. We've been told today that all non-essential services (ours being one of them) are to come to a halt while all staff will have to take turns on a rota to man the anti-viral clinics. We have over 100 staff in the health improvement team and we're all being rota'd in for our hours on a 7 day week, 8am to 8pm clinic rota.
Well when our target is missed because of pulling the whole team out and shutting down the service - i hope they remember that. Service reputation is hard to build up and its not something you can get back overnight. Sorry, rant over. |
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Personally I don't think that phone diagnosis ever really works, but hey, if it lightens the strain on other areas it is going to work. Even so, I don't really believe the number of cases - some people might not have it but because they're not swabbing and have a bad cold, which is possible in summer, then they're being told they have flu, etc. As for tamiflu-resistance... Plus there's always the problem of saying it is flu when in reality it is something more serious - meningitis, for example. If possible, cases should be followed up if there is a possibility it could be something else. As for the sending a "flu friend", who is likely a close contact of someone who has an infectious virus (so may well be infectious and not have symptoms) out to collect something... it should be delivered. |
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And i agree totally, its just flu and we'll probably all get it and get over it as quick as it came. Those who are higher risk (pregnant women, children, older people and those with other health conditions) are the ones who should be high priority for NHS services. |
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There could be a political element to this? To see how well the system copes if something really nasty went around? Just a thought.
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That'd be ironic, MP's caught with their snouts in the trough and swine flu saves their bacon. :) |
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good grief, that poor child. :(
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The lines finally went live at about 1pm after a few problems. Calls were really slow, I took 5 and arranged Tamiflu for 3 of them.
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Slow as in the lines were quiet or the calls took a long time to deal with?
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They were dead quiet, some people hadn't taken any calls all day. All my calls lasted about 10 minutes though.
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Can't be too bad then...
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Maybe they are limiting calls to Welsh call centres to leave some spare capacity for when/if the service goes live for people IN Wales?
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Calls coming in thick and fast now, plenty of 'worried well' trying to blag treatment too.
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