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punky 16-01-2009 15:20

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Good news for the red corner of CF. Ramon Calderon of Real Madrid has resigned.

He was pretty much alone in his crazy vendetta to bring Ronaldo to RM for £50m. I can now see Ronaldo staying at OT quite easily.

TheDaddy 16-01-2009 16:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34716897)
Good news for the red corner of CF. Ramon Calderon of Real Madrid has resigned.

He was pretty much alone in his crazy vendetta to bring Ronaldo to RM for £50m. I can now see Ronaldo staying at OT quite easily.

Or quite probably bad news, the new presidential candidates will make promises that have to be delivered upon, one will probably be to bring Ronaldo in, another might be to sign Fabregas

Russ 17-01-2009 19:49

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Back where we should be :)

arcamalpha2004 18-01-2009 08:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34717569)
Back where we should be :)


Not back at all Russ ;) is it not the first time this season United have been top place?

Hopefully Liverpool and Chelsea will chase them all the way to the final day of the season at OT when Stevie G raises the champions trophy at the Stretford End ;)

Russ 18-01-2009 09:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34717768)
Not back at all Russ ;) is it not the first time this season United have been top place?

I seem to remember we ended last season there ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34717768)
Hopefully Liverpool and Chelsea will chase them all the way to the final day of the season at OT when Stevie G raises the champions trophy at the Stretford End ;)

Yes if he gets parole :D

Anyway, excellent win for the Swansea yesterday, premier league football is looking more and more a possibility all the time :D

Arthurgray50@blu 19-01-2009 00:11

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I will air my anger on this forum, who the hell does Man City think they are, do they want to hijack every deal there is in football, it has been anounced tonight, they have agreed a deal with Bellamy, that will be FIVE players, they are hijacking from other clubs, THEY WILL KILL FOOTBALL, I am so angry. ahhhhhhh

arcamalpha2004 19-01-2009 05:11

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Will these mercenaries be able to challenge for europe? because I am sure the club owner will want that success for the outlay.
Thing is at the end of the day nobody is forcing players to join the club, they are willingly signing their names on the contracts.
But while some fans will not be happy with the money being splashed about I think a majority will welcome the challenge their team will give to the rest of the premiership but I feel more will welcome the challenge to their arch rivals in manchester.
If Chelsea is any barometer of what money does to a club it may be interesting.

TheDaddy 19-01-2009 05:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34718230)
I will air my anger on this forum, who the hell does Man City think they are, do they want to hijack every deal there is in football, it has been anounced tonight, they have agreed a deal with Bellamy, that will be FIVE players, they are hijacking from other clubs, THEY WILL KILL FOOTBALL, I am so angry. ahhhhhhh

That'll be Bellamy who the spuds tapped up and released info to the media about after being told he wasn't for sale, that's what makes me angry and I have news for you, we were never going to sell him to Tottenham anyway. The sad thing is we have probably done you a favour, he is poison, we tried to make him feel welcome, paid him a fortune and stood by him during his long periods out injured and this is how he repays us, he treated us like idiots with his interview at the start of the transfer window 'I love West Ham, it's up to the club if they have to sell me' etc well we didn't and the snivelling ego maniac went on strike!

SB_07 19-01-2009 06:01

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Hasn't Ronaldo trademarked the initials CR9 in the past week or two? I def read it in a couple of different places.

Julian 19-01-2009 08:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34718285)
Hasn't Ronaldo trademarked the initials CR9 in the past week or two? I def read it in a couple of different places.

That'll be because that postcode contains the highest percentage of Man U fans in the country. ;)

sherer 19-01-2009 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34718283)
That'll be Bellamy who the spuds tapped up and released info to the media about after being told he wasn't for sale, that's what makes me angry and I have news for you, we were never going to sell him to Tottenham anyway. The sad thing is we have probably done you a favour, he is poison, we tried to make him feel welcome, paid him a fortune and stood by him during his long periods out injured and this is how he repays us, he treated us like idiots with his interview at the start of the transfer window 'I love West Ham, it's up to the club if they have to sell me' etc well we didn't and the snivelling ego maniac went on strike!

don't think there is anyone who is a fan of Bellamy. He is a typical thug who is only average at the game anyway. He think is he is better than he is and because he has loads of money thinks he can do what he wants.

Some footballers manage to keep their feet on their ground but others let it all go to their head and think they can do what they like.

I'm sure Kaka is thrilled at the prospect of playing with Bellamy :D

iadom 19-01-2009 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34718230)
I will air my anger on this forum, who the hell does Man City think they are, do they want to hijack every deal there is in football, it has been anounced tonight, they have agreed a deal with Bellamy, that will be FIVE players, they are hijacking from other clubs, THEY WILL KILL FOOTBALL, I am so angry. ahhhhhhh

Its exactly what Chelski did with Essien and Mikel when both of them had initially agreed to go to United.

Money talks and there is no honour in the Premier league, never has been. ;)

sherer 19-01-2009 12:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34718344)
Its exactly what Chelski did with Essien and Mikel when both of them had initially agreed to go to United.

Money talks and there is no honour in the Premier league, never has been. ;)

I think part of the problem is to do with the agents. All they care about is how much of a cut they will get and if another club offers the agent a bigger cut then that is who the agent will tell the player to go to. Unfortunately the players don't seem to realise most of these agents don't have their best interests at heart.

iadom 19-01-2009 18:10

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Tosic pencilled in for a start against Derby tomorrow, along with both Da Silvas, Da Welbeck and Da Gibson. :cool:

punky 19-01-2009 18:37

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I'm quite glad City hijacked the deal to buy Bellamy. I've been on medication lately at the thought of Bellamy joining Spurs. I'll be breathing a sign of relief when he goes up north.

Shadow Demon UK 19-01-2009 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34718497)
Tosic pencilled in for a start against Derby tomorrow, along with both Da Silvas, Da Welbeck and Da Gibson. :cool:


I thought Tosic wouldn't be ready to play for another few weeks yet? At least thats what Fergie said when we signed him. I hope Fabio gets a game tomorrow.

Arthurgray50@blu 19-01-2009 18:49

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Being a mad football fan of Spurs, l love London clubs, and West Ham is a super club, and although, we were after Bellamy, l was pleased that on various sites, Spurs fans were angry, of the thought of him going to Th Lane, but a gentlemans agreement, means he won't be going to Spurs.

What he has done, by just walking out of the Hammers, is a disgrace, but he has done this before. The sad thing in football is now greed, what l hear, Kaka will be on £500.00 per week, what a disgusting thought, but they are after THREE other players, to a value of 20million each, when is there going to be a stop to this, l would love to be in the dugout, when Kaka is pulled off, that will be a great laugh, to see the look of Hughes face.:mad::)

iadom 19-01-2009 18:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34718516)
Kaka will be on £500.00 per week, .:mad::)

£500.00 a week, by eck, thats not much more than me.:D

punky 19-01-2009 19:14

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Apparently City are behaving rather oddly. Spurs were going after Wilson Palacious. We had a bid agreed and were haggling over payment terms. Friday night, City call and say they want to bid for WP too. Saturday comes and goes, so does Sunday. Then the come out and say they won't go after WP, if we won't go after Bellamy. Apparently, we've pulled out of Bellamy (ooh-err missus!) and trying to tie up WP. Looks like he now wants to stay at Wigan now.

I really don't think City are under any cohesive management. At worse allegedly, it looks like they are using their wealth to push other clubs from buying the players they want.

Arthurgray50@blu 19-01-2009 19:30

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I mean't 500.000 per week for Kaka, its my finger, its too quick on the button:)

---------- Post added at 18:30 ---------- Previous post was at 18:26 ----------

WP, will sign for Tottenham tomorrow, as l understand it, under the ' gentlemens agreement'.

And that Paly, will be fit for Wednesday's Cup tie, what me make me laugh is, IF Spurs do get to Wembley, and it is United, Fergie will play his top guns in the final, even though it is the reserves that got them this far, and by what Fergie, was qouted ' this crap cup':)

Shadow Demon UK 19-01-2009 19:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34718533)

And that Paly, will be fit for Wednesday's Cup tie, what me make me laugh is, IF Spurs do get to Wembley, and it is United, Fergie will play his top guns in the final, even though it is the reserves that got them this far, and by what Fergie, was qouted ' this crap cup':)


Errm, do you have a crystal ball that allows you to see into the future then Arthur? He's actually said the youngsters will play the whole way through, even if we do make it to the final, and where did you get the quote from him 'this crap cup' i don't think he's ever said anything like that about the competition. But your right, there's only been one team throughout the competition thats been desperate to win it and played a full strength side when others haven't, because they know they have no chance in any other competition, i wonder who that is ;) :)

Arthurgray50@blu 19-01-2009 20:11

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Hi Shadow Demon, here is a new one for you, its now stated that Archavin wants to join - Man City, how many Ist teams do they have, And going onto your item, Fergie, has only played the youngster's so far, until they started to play Derby, when Berb started to play alongisde Ronaldo, now if l'm not wrong they are first teamers, And also you will see a full strength side at Wembley.

And last year, Fergie and Wenger, described the Carling Cup ' a crap comp' and that is why they played reserves - ask me another. Up the Spurs. (we NEED the cup plus some more players, got any cheap).:)

pedantic 19-01-2009 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34718533)
And that Paly, will be fit for Wednesday's Cup tie

Palacios will be cup tied, as he played for Wigan against Ipswich and Arsenal in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

Shadow Demon UK 19-01-2009 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34718559)
Hi Shadow Demon, here is a new one for you, its now stated that Archavin wants to join - Man City, how many Ist teams do they have, And going onto your item, Fergie, has only played the youngster's so far, until they started to play Derby, when Berb started to play alongisde Ronaldo, now if l'm not wrong they are first teamers, And also you will see a full strength side at Wembley.

And last year, Fergie and Wenger, described the Carling Cup ' a crap comp' and that is why they played reserves - ask me another. Up the Spurs. (we NEED the cup plus some more players, got any cheap).:)


Well Arthur, once again your wrong, Berbatov wasn't even on the bench when we played Derby, Ronaldo did come on as a sub though. The only player who is a definate first team player this season that started against Derby was Vidic. Your also wrong about Fergie and Wenger saying it's a crap competition. They may not rate it as highly as other competitions (who does apart from Spurs?) but they haven't said it is 'a crap comp' as you put it.

Arthurgray50@blu 19-01-2009 21:14

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I have just been put right by my son, BUT Fergie and Wenger did say that, but this was last year, so l assume your a Red, It looks like your be playing Spurs in the final, l wonder what the score will be, plus we might have a ' revenge battle' on our hands for the FA cup is soon. or will you be going out.

Russ 19-01-2009 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34718581)
I have just been put right by my son, BUT Fergie and Wenger did say that, but this was last year, so l assume your a Red, It looks like your be playing Spurs in the final, l wonder what the score will be, plus we might have a ' revenge battle' on our hands for the FA cup is soon. or will you be going out.

If you can post a link to SAF or Wenger calling it a 'crap cup' then you sir may have my place on the admin team.

Shadow Demon UK 19-01-2009 22:56

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Well done Everton :D :D

Russ 19-01-2009 23:13

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Just saw on the Beeb's sport pages....

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The prime minister of Italy, Silvio Berlusconi, who is also the owner of AC Milan, has told Italian television that Kaka is staying at the club. Repeat, Kaka will not be joining Manchester City.

iadom 19-01-2009 23:23

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They don't need him now they have got Bellamy.:rolleyes::D

Niles Crane 19-01-2009 23:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34718666)
Just saw on the Beeb's sport pages....

A victory for football. Money can't buy you everything.

Ignoring that Kaka is already on around £140k a week as it is, this is at least part proof that some players do still play for the love of the game and their club, not their pay cheque.

Russ 20-01-2009 00:13

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Confirmed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/7838966.stm

sherer 20-01-2009 11:44

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can't see how Kaka wasn't tempted by playing with Bellamy :D

Wonder if City will go after any other big name signings. Surely somewhere along the line they must be able to work out they are leaking goals and need a defender.

I've never heard Fergie or Wenger call the Carling Cup a "crap cup". They have both stated they use this as a proving ground for the younger players \ fringe players but I don't think they have been that insulting to it, they would have been fined if they came out with something like that.

LondonRoad 20-01-2009 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34718819)
can't see how Kaka wasn't tempted by playing with Bellamy :D

.

Clearly Robinho can't hide his excitment at the prospect...:)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/7839371.stm

sherer 20-01-2009 13:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by harmitage (Post 34718821)
Clearly Robinho can't hide his excitment at the prospect...:)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/7839371.stm

yeah doesn't surprise me. I read he just signed the contract his agent put in front of him with no idea what club he was signing for. He has since sacked his agent

Russ 21-01-2009 22:30

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Man Utd V Burnley for the Carling Final?

Shadow Demon UK 21-01-2009 23:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34719775)
Man Utd V Burnley for the Carling Final?


If the away goals rule counted at 90 minutes rather than after extra time it would have been. Burnley just didn't have the legs to see it out.

Arthurgray50@blu 21-01-2009 23:52

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Being a Spurs fan, l want to say well played to Burnley, they performed to such a standard, that would fit a Premier League ground and they should have WON, we were terrible, you don't give away three goals, in such an important cup tie.

I had a terrible feeling towards the final two minutes of Xtime, that l acually went into a room, and convered my ears, we were a disgrace to the white shirt, and why the hell, Harry played Alnwick instead of Ceasar, l don't know.

Harry, has already said, which l think is pathetic, we will field a weakened side against Man Utd,, is poor, so wake up Tottenham you are a disgrace, and good luck to Burnley in the Championship, l am so angry with Tottenham they were poor.:mad:

pedantic 24-01-2009 14:48

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Quote:

I have come across dialogue between Man City and AC Milan superstar Kaka. Unfortunately I only have the script from the City end but I think it is clear for all as to the total content:


"Hello, is that Kaka? How do you fancy becoming the supply line to Craig Bellamy and Darius Vassell this winter?

"No, your fellow countryman doesn’t like the cold and will be out until mid April - but you will play alongside Stephen Ireland"

"No, Kaka, Ireland is a person not a country"

"yes, I fully appreciate that he is not Ronaldinho, Pirlo or even Beckham but many fans have him in their fantasy football"

"I know you are currently the richest man in Italy but we can double it!"

"erm, well, we have had a bit of a slide recently and we are currently 15th"

"erm, out of 20...... but Mark Hughes once won the double for our neighbours"

"Hughes"

"Ex Blackburn boss"

"Blackburn, Blackburn Rovers"

"No, Blackburn......Black.....Burn"

"HUGHES man, HUGHES!!!"

"He once scored a good goal against Spain"

"No, thats Gerry Armstrong..... anyway, are you coming or not?"

"Usually about two thirds full but if we play a big team its really rocks"

"yes I know, but we dont even have a car park cos all the fans walk to the ground they are so local"

"Relevance? well, I suppose its all they have to brag about whether its true or not"

"Only the one to be fair but its called 'blue moon' you will love it"

"Blue"

"yes, definitely blue, always has been"

"No, no, no, they are in Trafford"

"yes they are, steeped in it in fact but what good is history to you my ambitious friend?"

"erm, 1976 I think"

"it was the er, the er League cup if memory serves me right"

"Well, the plan was to get in the top 4 this season and then....."

"yes, I realise that but....."

"Aston Villa? Whats it got to do with them?"

"Yes, I know but we have been down this history route already"

"How the heck does a Brazilian playing in Italy know about Nottingham Forest?"

"Yes, yes, and Leeds United also made a final but you are missing my point, this is all about the future"

"Give me strength......HUGHES!!!!"

"yes I know he did and he was a legend there but he is a changed man"

"forget them, they are falling apart"

"But all those trophies were won last year! They have won nothing in 2009"

"I have told you.... 1976!!!!"

"How the heck does a Brazilian playing in Italy know that Virginia Wade has won Wimbledon since then?"

"Yes she probably is in her 60's"

"I dont know, probably about 10 league titles, 2 european cups and countless domestic cups what has that got to do with it?"

"76,000 why?"

"yes, every game, even minor cups I suppose, but where is this getting us?"

"Yes, the league cup is considered a minor cup over here why?"

"I know, I know, I know, ok perhaps they won the FA Cup in 1970 or something does it really matter?"

"look, Kaka, we will treble whatever you are on now, buy you a mansion in Alderley Edge and give you a helicopter for your front lawn....are you joining us?"

"NO!, its owned by the council - what has the ground got to do with anything"

"well, officially its the city of manchester stadium but most people call it Eastlands"

"EAST!, not Waste"

"You will be adored there"

"No, not there, here I meant"

"No, thats Old Trafford, I meant adored here at Waste....erm, Eastlands"

"Anderson??? what does he know?"

"Ok I hear what you say, but other than Pride, Ambition, Achievement, History, Passion and a large car park - what can they offer you?"

"what do you mean no credit left in your phone.....I phoned you"

"Hello, Mr Kaka... Mr Kaka are you there?..."
:D

Shadow Demon UK 24-01-2009 16:46

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"yes I know, but we dont even have a car park cos all the fans walk to the ground they are so local"

"How the heck does a Brazilian playing in Italy know that Virginia Wade has won Wimbledon since then?"



I like those two parts the best :D

Russ 24-01-2009 19:27

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Ossum performance from the Swans today, we played like a premiership side, I honestly think we've got what it takes to get there next season and stay there as well.

Mal 24-01-2009 23:28

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"Usually about two thirds full but if we play a big team its really rocks"

A bit optimistic there, I think ;)

Russ 25-01-2009 21:08

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FA Cup 5th round draw:
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Sheff Utd v Hull

Watford v Chelsea

West Ham v Middlesbrough

Sunderland or Blackburn v Coventry

Derby or Nottm Forest v Man Utd

Swansea v Fulham

Liverpool or Everton v Doncaster or Aston Villa

Cardiff or Arsenal v West Brom or Burnley
Shame Swansea didn't get United :D

Arthurgray50@blu 25-01-2009 23:20

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According to Sky sources; Spurs are to re-sign Pascal Chimbonda from Sunderland, my god what are Spurs doing, all they need to do is re-sign Robbie Keane from Liverpool, who walked out this afternoon, and we have the hat trick, with Defoe as well, l am a yido, but l think Harry needs his head examined.

Turkey Machine 26-01-2009 00:18

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Oh wonderful! Now all I gotta do is hope Forest pull it off in the replay! :D Although it's not a biggy if Derby win it, cos Pride Park isn't far from the train station, I think. :)

punky 26-01-2009 00:56

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Argh... I want my Tottenham back. :cry:

Mal 26-01-2009 01:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34722245)
Argh... I want my Tottenham back. :cry:

You mean that this isn't the norm for them? ;)

yesman 26-01-2009 01:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34722209)
According to Sky sources; Spurs are to re-sign Pascal Chimbonda from Sunderland, my god what are Spurs doing, all they need to do is re-sign Robbie Keane from Liverpool, who walked out this afternoon, and we have the hat trick, with Defoe as well, l am a yido, but l think Harry needs his head examined.

If all the gossip is to be believed, Spurs will sign Keane in the next 48 hours.

But don't take my word for it. :erm:

sherer 26-01-2009 10:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34722253)
If all the gossip is to be believed, Spurs will sign Keane in the next 48 hours.

But don't take my word for it. :erm:

not heard anything about Keane walking out on Liverpool. Is there a link to this anywhere ?

punky 26-01-2009 13:00

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SSN reported that Keane is boycotting Liverpool.

Word has it is that Rick Parry wanted and bought Keane, not Rafa. This is why Rafa stipulated that he wants all influence on the team by Parry removed before he signs a new contract. Its also why he subs Keane at all opportunities to send a message to Parry.

I've got no real evidence to back it up, just Chinese rumours on Spurs and Liverpudlian forums atm. It does back up what Rafa said though regarding his contract.

arcamalpha2004 27-01-2009 11:34

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Re the Keane situation.

Nobody knows whether Keane was a player that Benitez wanted, but looking at how things are developing over the Benitez contract talks I would stick my head over the top and suggest that Keane was a Parry signing.

The young lad who took Keanes place on the bench was a Benitez player?
Someone feel free to correct me ;) all Rafa would say was that this kid had scored two goals in a Reserve game so he felt he deserved his place.

This looks to me a battle between Benitez and Parry.

In my opinion a manager should have full control, the board turn around to the manager and say " Here, you have £x amount for transfers and wages, anything above that you have to sell "
That way the manager is judged correctly, you could have a situation where someone like Parry, who with all respect is not a Football Manager, gets off scot free if the team fails, who takes the can? the Manager ofcourse.

Even the late Bill Shankly had refused to take the job unless he was given full control of team affairs.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34722295)
not heard anything about Keane walking out on Liverpool. Is there a link to this anywhere ?


Keane has gone on record apparently as saying he wants to stay, its apparently in tonights Liverpool Echo.

sherer 27-01-2009 12:04

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thanks for the info on Keane, can't be nice for a player to go to a club and know he isn't wanted

Arthurgray50@blu 27-01-2009 19:07

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As far as l know, Keane has been brought back into the squad, sad really, he is a brilliant player, and l cannot see him in the future with Liverpool, there is so much firepower with Liverpool, that he will be down in the pecking order, whereas, with Spurs he was gurranteed that each week.:)

iadom 27-01-2009 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34723139)
there is so much firepower with Liverpool, .:)

Now you really are taking the p***.:D

Firepower, take away Gerrard and a fit Torres and whats left, sweet FA.:p:

Arthurgray50@blu 27-01-2009 21:43

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Harry must have stuck a rocket up the team's backside its Spurs 3, Stoke 0, after twenty minutes,.

---------- Post added at 20:43 ---------- Previous post was at 20:42 ----------

I might be taking the jimmy riddle, but its the Premier Title this year for Liverpool, and l don't support em';)

Russ 27-01-2009 23:37

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4-1 to the Swans, premiership here we come :D

And United did well too ;)

gazzae 28-01-2009 00:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34723241)

I might be taking the jimmy riddle, but its the Premier Title this year for Liverpool, and l don't support em';)

Interesting time to make that prediction, as Utd go 3 points clear with a game in hand, setting the record for successive clean sheets while taking 22 points from their last 8 games compared to Liverpools 14

iadom 28-01-2009 00:37

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Just watch the game on Sky, Rob Stiles is a very poor referee. :rolleyes:

Kymmy 28-01-2009 11:06

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/7855107.stm

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Robinho held over 'sex assault'
I wonder if this is the real reason for him vanishing back to South America for a few days..

sherer 28-01-2009 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34723469)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/7855107.stm



I wonder if this is the real reason for him vanishing back to South America for a few days..

due to the large number of false claims against Prem players by people looking to make money off them I will hold fire on talking about this one

Saaf_laandon_mo 28-01-2009 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34723345)
Interesting time to make that prediction, as Utd go 3 points clear with a game in hand, setting the record for successive clean sheets while taking 22 points from their last 8 games compared to Liverpools 14

I support Chelsea and even I don't see Utd not winning the Premiership this season. I think Liverpool will finish 3rd or 4th.

Nugget 28-01-2009 12:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34723498)
I support Chelsea and even I don't see Utd not winning the Premiership this season. I think Liverpool will finish 3rd or 4th.

I think that, as the table stands now, that'll be the finishing positions.

Look, I'm a Villa fan - allow me my dream :D

Saaf_laandon_mo 28-01-2009 12:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34723512)
I think that, as the table stands now, that'll be the finishing positions.

Look, I'm a Villa fan - allow me my dream :D


Well if you can keep Arsenal outside the top 4 then there will be a lot of happy people on this forum :)

arcamalpha2004 28-01-2009 13:30

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34723149)
Now you really are taking the p***.:D

Firepower, take away Gerrard and a fit Torres and whats left, sweet FA.:p:


Take away two key players at united, lets say ronaldo and rooney, whats left?

United are on 39 goals for aided by 5 goals against 10 men last night, Liverpool are on 36 goals for.

United are on 10 against, Liverpool are on 14.

Interestingly, Aston Villa are on 38 goals for, does that mean Villa have a firepower almost equal to that of United?

Russ 28-01-2009 13:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34723553)
Take away two key players at united, lets say ronaldo and rooney, whats left?

Tevez and Berbatov?

arcamalpha2004 28-01-2009 13:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34723555)
Tevez and Berbatov?


But surely with those " surplus players " united should be going for around the 50 goal mark this time of the season?

Considering that Liverpool according to one poster have sweet fa firepower I would be scratching my head were I a United supporter given the thin line in goals for between the two teams, and even Villa are on 38 goals.

I reckon judgement day could come at Old trafford when we take on United, how sweet that would be.

LondonRoad 28-01-2009 13:41

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34723561)
But surely with those " surplus players " united should be going for around the 50 goal mark this time of the season?

Considering that Liverpool according to one poster have sweet fa firepower I would be scratching my head were I a United supporter given the thin line in goals for between the two teams, and even Villa are on 38 goals.

I reckon judgement day could come at Old trafford when we take on United, how sweet that would be.

Ronaldo, Berbatov and Rooney are finding form at the business end of the season... and what about their defensive record despite so many key injuries. IMHO United will move up a gear and win the league comfortably.

Russ 28-01-2009 13:42

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34723561)
But surely with those " surplus players " united should be going for around the 50 goal mark this time of the season?

Considering that Liverpool according to one poster have sweet fa firepower I would be scratching my head were I a United supporter given the thin line in goals for between the two teams, and even Villa are on 38 goals.

I reckon judgement day could come at Old trafford when we take on United, how sweet that would be.

Every season we get an 'unfashionable' side hovering near the top of the league, surpassing everyone's expectations. But when it comes to consistency, by May they always slip up. Sorry Nugg but that's Villa this year.

Take Torres away from Liverpool and you don't really have any players known for knocking them in on a regular basis.

Berbatov has taken time to find his feet but it seems like he's now in gear, Ronnie has been quiet, Rooney has been on form and Tevez, when making the team has been ok as well.

So on the basis alone that United's front line haven't been reaching their potential this year, yet we are top of the league by 3 points, doesn't that say we have enough players to do the job?

As for Liverpool at Old Trafford, seriously, dream on.

Shadow Demon UK 28-01-2009 15:24

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34723561)
But surely with those " surplus players " united should be going for around the 50 goal mark this time of the season?

Considering that Liverpool according to one poster have sweet fa firepower I would be scratching my head were I a United supporter given the thin line in goals for between the two teams, and even Villa are on 38 goals.

I reckon judgement day could come at Old trafford when we take on United, how sweet that would be.


Berbatov - New to the team, i think he's still scored more than Keane has for Liverpool.

Ronaldo - Injured at the begining of the season and found it hard to recover from that.

Tevez - Only played a handful of games

Rooney - Has been on form for a lot of the season, but has never been a prolific goalscorer.

Takeaway Gerrard from Liverpool and they will be in big trouble, he scores a large amount of goals for them and sets up the majority of the rest.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter how many goals you score, it's how many points you have that counts. Liverpool have choked numerous times this season already and only managed to draw games that they should be winning (Everton last week is a prime example), it's only January and the managers cracking up, i can't see Liverpool finishing in the top two this season.

As for winning against us at OT, whens the last time you lot scored there, let alone won? ;)

Nugget 28-01-2009 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34723563)
Every season we get an 'unfashionable' side hovering near the top of the league, surpassing everyone's expectations. But when it comes to consistency, by May they always slip up. Sorry Nugg but that's Villa this year.

To be honest Russ, you're right - having said that, I'm not convinced that Villa, with a couple of good signings, can't keep it up, and at least be in the reckoning for the top 4 in May. We're 11 unbeaten now, which isn't a bad run :)

iadom 28-01-2009 17:19

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Only one Liverpool player in the list of top goal scorers this season, three from United. :p:

http://www.4thegame.com/football-sta...ip/topscorers/

Even Vidic is as prolific as most of Liverpool's, 'awesome fire power' ;)

When you consider that everyone agrees that United have not been at their scintillating best, its still better than the Scousers.:D
Jim.

iadom 28-01-2009 22:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34723139)
there is so much firepower with Liverpool, :)


A stunning display of 'firepower' from the Scousers tonight.:D

Torres & Gerrard both subbed.

Arsenal scraped a late, undeserved draw as well.

Derek 28-01-2009 23:35

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Celtic vs Dundee Utd.

Penalty shootout. Up to penalty 10 now...

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I've never seen a sudden death go on this long. Number 11 now

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Dammit. :mad: Celtic through on the 12th penalty.

Bulky 28-01-2009 23:49

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It seems since rafa beneathus had his little 'loss of temper' Liverpool have been poor , even at Anfailed the results are not going for them, on the Manchester side though , i have never seen United with a SQUAD with such depth and quality , there is another amazing set of youngsters ready to break through to join the more experienced players.

Russ 29-01-2009 00:15

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bulkylad (Post 34723947)
It seems since rafa beneathus had his little 'loss of temper' Liverpool have been poor , even at Anfailed the results are not going for them, on the Manchester side though , i have never seen United with a SQUAD with such depth and quality , there is another amazing set of youngsters ready to break through to join the more experienced players.

I guess it just goes to show you don't try mind games against the master of mind games.

Kymmy 29-01-2009 01:01

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Good win by MCFC tonight, debut goal by Bellamy...

Was really comical though watching Barton have a hissy-fit whilst going off through his injury...I'm sure the wall is now totally scared of his boot throwing skills...

Arthurgray50@blu 29-01-2009 18:42

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Hi DerekS, Didn't you know that referee's in Scotland are more biased than English ones, that why Celtic and Rangers go through - its called money.

If you took Rangers and Celtic out of Scottish football, you wouldn't have any football, years ago, there used to be some great teams in Scotland ie Motherwell, Aberdeen, Hearts, etc, but it is all about Celtic and Rangers, that is why they always win on dubious decisions.;) That is why they cannot get into the English league, which they tried to do two years ago.:)

LondonRoad 29-01-2009 19:08

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34724293)
Hi DerekS, Didn't you know that referee's in Scotland are more biased than English ones, that why Celtic and Rangers go through - its called money.

If you took Rangers and Celtic out of Scottish football, you wouldn't have any football, years ago, there used to be some great teams in Scotland ie Motherwell, Aberdeen, Hearts, etc, but it is all about Celtic and Rangers, that is why they always win on dubious decisions.;) That is why they cannot get into the English league, which they tried to do two years ago.:)

I think if Celtic and Rangers were allowed to join another league the set up they leave behind would be far more competitive. There would be the opportunity for any of the clubs you mentioned and Hibs, Dundee United etc, to actually win the league. Unfortunately they rely heavily on the money generated by the popularity of the Old Firm.

Arthurgray50@blu 29-01-2009 21:13

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I have seen some Scottish games on TV and most of the grounds are empty, like a reserve game in English football, l find it really sad, As they do have some good clubs in Scotland, in fact l watched a tv Doc on Scottish football, and they had some guy who flies to watch Inverness at all games, and he lives in London.

I cannot see why, they don't almalgamate the two League, and l think the smaller clubs would benefit financially. When you think Celtic would fly down to there games and stay at a luxury hotel, whereas a club like Brechin would come down by train and probabely go home the same day (And that is nothing against Brechin).

LondonRoad 29-01-2009 21:42

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The reality is there are too many senior football clubs in Scotland. A population of 5 million with 40 senior teams compared to England with 10 times the population and less than 3 times the amount of senior clubs. In the past there has been talk of amalgamating teams, e.g. one team from Edinburgh and Dundee but that wuold never work. Hibs, Hearts, Dundee and Utd are teams with their own rivalries. Theres no way they would stand on the terracing together to support an "Edinburgh Utd".

Kymmy 30-01-2009 23:49

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Is it me or is it a really close season this year with the bottom 14 clubs all within 11 points of each other....

Turkey Machine 31-01-2009 00:21

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You're not allowed to say that... West Ham still have to get out of that zone! :p:

LondonRoad 31-01-2009 00:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34724987)
You're not allowed to say that... West Ham still have to get out of that zone! :p:

What? the zone for challenging for a UEFA spot;):D:D

Arthurgray50@blu 31-01-2009 21:36

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Isn't it strange how penalties are given at Man Utd, the referee must have been thick and stupid, to have given the most craziest penalties in my life, But there again, it was Old Trafford, and the ref. must have been scared of Sir Alex.

A penalty is given, when a player is brought down, in the area by the intent of serious foul or prevention of a goal scoring chance, what the Utd player did was fall over the side of the Everton player, and then fall over a second Everton player.

Russ 31-01-2009 21:40

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Arthur old bean, I'm assuming you missed the penalty towards the end that the ref didn't give to United, when Lescott brought down Carrick?

Arthurgray50@blu 31-01-2009 22:27

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RussB, l switched it off after that, l thought it would be one of those games, its like the game the other day with Liverpool, the commentator said that Everton haven't had a penalty in that game for 71 years, would you believe that.

Russ 31-01-2009 22:31

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You called?

Mal 31-01-2009 23:11

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Arthur, what that player actually did was fall over the leg that the Everton player stuck out and if you did watch the same penalty that I did, you should have seen that Carrick did try to stay on his feet, instead of going over after the slightest of touches, which is something that you gone on about Ronaldo doing all the time. Cannot win...do something that every other team does and go to ground as if shot, we are in the wrong; try to stay on their feet, we are wrong again...what should they do?

Arthurgray50@blu 01-02-2009 19:59

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The Chelsea V Liverpool game, was another game where Mike Riley drops another clanger, there should have been TWO red cards.

The Frank Lampard incident was 50/50, but what about the incident on the corner flag, where the Chelsea player used his boots with studs showing on the Liverpool player, to shove him over, Red Card straight way, but what happened - nothing.

This is what l have always said - no officials consistancy.

arcamalpha2004 01-02-2009 20:12

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34725785)
The Chelsea V Liverpool game, was another game where Mike Riley drops another clanger, there should have been TWO red cards.

The Frank Lampard incident was 50/50, but what about the incident on the corner flag, where the Chelsea player used his boots with studs showing on the Liverpool player, to shove him over, Red Card straight way, but what happened - nothing.

This is what l have always said - no officials consistancy.


It's the old chestnut Arthur, if the referee does not see it........

Anyway, agree with the Lampard one, I have seen worse, but the result was right in the end ;)

Arthurgray50@blu 01-02-2009 22:55

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
HOTFLASH, Have a guess, who are in talks tonight about Robbie Keane - TOTTENHAM, hot from Sky Sports News

Shadow Demon UK 01-02-2009 23:32

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Apparently Spurs could be docked points because they played Palacios against Boton when he was actually suspended. Let it be so :D

Russ 01-02-2009 23:38

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Can't someone find something on Arsenal? I can't wait for them to drop out of the top 5 and they'd only need to be docked 7 points for that to happen :D

Arthurgray50@blu 02-02-2009 00:04

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I wish l could find something crap about the gooners, they are out of the running for the title, and Arsene, will be out of a job, lets see what happens next Sunday, when we wipe the floor, of the Gooners,

The big problem with Arsenal, they thought they were the big boys of NL, but it has gone downhill, and they haven't sign anyone in the window, probabely, as new players want Champions League football, and if they lose anymore games, they will end up with nothing - hooray.

pedantic 02-02-2009 00:26

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34725935)
Apparently Spurs could be docked points because they played Palacios against Boton when he was actually suspended. Let it be so :D

Well, there's no mention of Palacios on the FA's list of suspended players and neither is he listed on the pending players suspension list. Although looking at his record this season, he has been booked 10 times already. Bearing in mind, you receive a suspension after 5 bookings, it would seem he should be on a suspension. :confused:

Although, maybe the FA have a rolling count system, so if he had bookings from last season, he would have served a suspension after maybe 2 or 3 bookings of this season. If that makes sense. :p:

Saaf_laandon_mo 02-02-2009 00:32

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I thought Palicios was suspended and only available for the match against arsenal. My mate is a spurs season ticket holder and he told me palacios wasn't available till the north london derby.

sherer 02-02-2009 00:51

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34725935)
Apparently Spurs could be docked points because they played Palacios against Boton when he was actually suspended. Let it be so :D

surely that sort of thing should be down to the ref though. When he gets the team sheet he should check if there are any suspended players and inform the team

Shadow Demon UK 02-02-2009 01:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34725960)
Well, there's no mention of Palacios on the FA's list of suspended players and neither is he listed on the pending players suspension list. Although looking at his record this season, he has been booked 10 times already. Bearing in mind, you receive a suspension after 5 bookings, it would seem he should be on a suspension. :confused:

Although, maybe the FA have a rolling count system, so if he had bookings from last season, he would have served a suspension after maybe 2 or 3 bookings of this season. If that makes sense. :p:

He had ten bookings, so thats a two match ban. He was signed before the Burnley game, which didn't count as he was cup tied, there was then the United FA cup match which he was also cup tied for so didn't count for his suspension. He then didn't play against stoke, which is one 1 out of 2 and then he played against Bolton yesterday, which should have been the second match he was suspended for. I'm almost certain cards don't carry over to the next season, only suspensions do. I'm also sure the suspensions still count if a player is transfered to a different club. One of my friends is a spurs fan and he was suprised he played yesterday as he thought he was suspended for that match as well. I wonder what the FA will do?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34725970)
surely that sort of thing should be down to the ref though. When he gets the team sheet he should check if there are any suspended players and inform the team


Why should it be down to the ref to have to check every player is allowed to play? It's up to the clubs to know when a players suspension is and to make sure he serves it. The club know the rules, if they decide to field an inelligable player, whether they knew what they were doing or not, they should be punished for it. They would have surely been told by the FA that the player had a suspension, it's nothing to do with the referee.

Russ 02-02-2009 09:58

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34725973)
Why should it be down to the ref to have to check every player is allowed to play?

Surely what happens on the pitch is the responsibility of the ref? If a fan runs on he can stop the match. So if a player runs out and he shouldn't on the pitch the referee should take action.

sherer 02-02-2009 10:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34726042)
Surely what happens on the pitch is the responsibility of the ref? If a fan runs on he can stop the match. So if a player runs out and he shouldn't on the pitch the referee should take action.

yes i thought it was up to the FA to administer the game and as the ref is representing the FA then surely it should be up to him. Much like at a motor racing meeting where all the cars are checked before an event to make sure they are legal

LondonRoad 02-02-2009 10:35

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It has always been the responsibility of Clubs themselves at all levels of the game. The clubs all know the rules.

I can understand amatuer and less well off clubs being caught up with admiinstrative errors but given the abundance of dosh in the Premiership you would think they could affort to pay an adminstrator to check on such things. :erm:


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