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Good news for the red corner of CF. Ramon Calderon of Real Madrid has resigned.
He was pretty much alone in his crazy vendetta to bring Ronaldo to RM for £50m. I can now see Ronaldo staying at OT quite easily. |
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Back where we should be :)
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Not back at all Russ ;) is it not the first time this season United have been top place? Hopefully Liverpool and Chelsea will chase them all the way to the final day of the season at OT when Stevie G raises the champions trophy at the Stretford End ;) |
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I will air my anger on this forum, who the hell does Man City think they are, do they want to hijack every deal there is in football, it has been anounced tonight, they have agreed a deal with Bellamy, that will be FIVE players, they are hijacking from other clubs, THEY WILL KILL FOOTBALL, I am so angry. ahhhhhhh
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Will these mercenaries be able to challenge for europe? because I am sure the club owner will want that success for the outlay.
Thing is at the end of the day nobody is forcing players to join the club, they are willingly signing their names on the contracts. But while some fans will not be happy with the money being splashed about I think a majority will welcome the challenge their team will give to the rest of the premiership but I feel more will welcome the challenge to their arch rivals in manchester. If Chelsea is any barometer of what money does to a club it may be interesting. |
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Hasn't Ronaldo trademarked the initials CR9 in the past week or two? I def read it in a couple of different places.
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Some footballers manage to keep their feet on their ground but others let it all go to their head and think they can do what they like. I'm sure Kaka is thrilled at the prospect of playing with Bellamy :D |
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Money talks and there is no honour in the Premier league, never has been. ;) |
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Tosic pencilled in for a start against Derby tomorrow, along with both Da Silvas, Da Welbeck and Da Gibson. :cool:
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I'm quite glad City hijacked the deal to buy Bellamy. I've been on medication lately at the thought of Bellamy joining Spurs. I'll be breathing a sign of relief when he goes up north.
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Being a mad football fan of Spurs, l love London clubs, and West Ham is a super club, and although, we were after Bellamy, l was pleased that on various sites, Spurs fans were angry, of the thought of him going to Th Lane, but a gentlemans agreement, means he won't be going to Spurs.
What he has done, by just walking out of the Hammers, is a disgrace, but he has done this before. The sad thing in football is now greed, what l hear, Kaka will be on £500.00 per week, what a disgusting thought, but they are after THREE other players, to a value of 20million each, when is there going to be a stop to this, l would love to be in the dugout, when Kaka is pulled off, that will be a great laugh, to see the look of Hughes face.:mad::) |
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Apparently City are behaving rather oddly. Spurs were going after Wilson Palacious. We had a bid agreed and were haggling over payment terms. Friday night, City call and say they want to bid for WP too. Saturday comes and goes, so does Sunday. Then the come out and say they won't go after WP, if we won't go after Bellamy. Apparently, we've pulled out of Bellamy (ooh-err missus!) and trying to tie up WP. Looks like he now wants to stay at Wigan now.
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I mean't 500.000 per week for Kaka, its my finger, its too quick on the button:)
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Errm, do you have a crystal ball that allows you to see into the future then Arthur? He's actually said the youngsters will play the whole way through, even if we do make it to the final, and where did you get the quote from him 'this crap cup' i don't think he's ever said anything like that about the competition. But your right, there's only been one team throughout the competition thats been desperate to win it and played a full strength side when others haven't, because they know they have no chance in any other competition, i wonder who that is ;) :) |
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Hi Shadow Demon, here is a new one for you, its now stated that Archavin wants to join - Man City, how many Ist teams do they have, And going onto your item, Fergie, has only played the youngster's so far, until they started to play Derby, when Berb started to play alongisde Ronaldo, now if l'm not wrong they are first teamers, And also you will see a full strength side at Wembley.
And last year, Fergie and Wenger, described the Carling Cup ' a crap comp' and that is why they played reserves - ask me another. Up the Spurs. (we NEED the cup plus some more players, got any cheap).:) |
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Well Arthur, once again your wrong, Berbatov wasn't even on the bench when we played Derby, Ronaldo did come on as a sub though. The only player who is a definate first team player this season that started against Derby was Vidic. Your also wrong about Fergie and Wenger saying it's a crap competition. They may not rate it as highly as other competitions (who does apart from Spurs?) but they haven't said it is 'a crap comp' as you put it. |
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I have just been put right by my son, BUT Fergie and Wenger did say that, but this was last year, so l assume your a Red, It looks like your be playing Spurs in the final, l wonder what the score will be, plus we might have a ' revenge battle' on our hands for the FA cup is soon. or will you be going out.
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Just saw on the Beeb's sport pages....
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They don't need him now they have got Bellamy.:rolleyes::D
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Ignoring that Kaka is already on around £140k a week as it is, this is at least part proof that some players do still play for the love of the game and their club, not their pay cheque. |
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can't see how Kaka wasn't tempted by playing with Bellamy :D
Wonder if City will go after any other big name signings. Surely somewhere along the line they must be able to work out they are leaking goals and need a defender. I've never heard Fergie or Wenger call the Carling Cup a "crap cup". They have both stated they use this as a proving ground for the younger players \ fringe players but I don't think they have been that insulting to it, they would have been fined if they came out with something like that. |
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Man Utd V Burnley for the Carling Final?
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If the away goals rule counted at 90 minutes rather than after extra time it would have been. Burnley just didn't have the legs to see it out. |
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Being a Spurs fan, l want to say well played to Burnley, they performed to such a standard, that would fit a Premier League ground and they should have WON, we were terrible, you don't give away three goals, in such an important cup tie.
I had a terrible feeling towards the final two minutes of Xtime, that l acually went into a room, and convered my ears, we were a disgrace to the white shirt, and why the hell, Harry played Alnwick instead of Ceasar, l don't know. Harry, has already said, which l think is pathetic, we will field a weakened side against Man Utd,, is poor, so wake up Tottenham you are a disgrace, and good luck to Burnley in the Championship, l am so angry with Tottenham they were poor.:mad: |
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"yes I know, but we dont even have a car park cos all the fans walk to the ground they are so local"
"How the heck does a Brazilian playing in Italy know that Virginia Wade has won Wimbledon since then?" I like those two parts the best :D |
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Ossum performance from the Swans today, we played like a premiership side, I honestly think we've got what it takes to get there next season and stay there as well.
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"Usually about two thirds full but if we play a big team its really rocks"
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According to Sky sources; Spurs are to re-sign Pascal Chimbonda from Sunderland, my god what are Spurs doing, all they need to do is re-sign Robbie Keane from Liverpool, who walked out this afternoon, and we have the hat trick, with Defoe as well, l am a yido, but l think Harry needs his head examined.
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Oh wonderful! Now all I gotta do is hope Forest pull it off in the replay! :D Although it's not a biggy if Derby win it, cos Pride Park isn't far from the train station, I think. :)
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Argh... I want my Tottenham back. :cry:
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SSN reported that Keane is boycotting Liverpool.
Word has it is that Rick Parry wanted and bought Keane, not Rafa. This is why Rafa stipulated that he wants all influence on the team by Parry removed before he signs a new contract. Its also why he subs Keane at all opportunities to send a message to Parry. I've got no real evidence to back it up, just Chinese rumours on Spurs and Liverpudlian forums atm. It does back up what Rafa said though regarding his contract. |
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Re the Keane situation.
Nobody knows whether Keane was a player that Benitez wanted, but looking at how things are developing over the Benitez contract talks I would stick my head over the top and suggest that Keane was a Parry signing. The young lad who took Keanes place on the bench was a Benitez player? Someone feel free to correct me ;) all Rafa would say was that this kid had scored two goals in a Reserve game so he felt he deserved his place. This looks to me a battle between Benitez and Parry. In my opinion a manager should have full control, the board turn around to the manager and say " Here, you have £x amount for transfers and wages, anything above that you have to sell " That way the manager is judged correctly, you could have a situation where someone like Parry, who with all respect is not a Football Manager, gets off scot free if the team fails, who takes the can? the Manager ofcourse. Even the late Bill Shankly had refused to take the job unless he was given full control of team affairs. ---------- Post added at 10:34 ---------- Previous post was at 10:33 ---------- Quote:
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thanks for the info on Keane, can't be nice for a player to go to a club and know he isn't wanted
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As far as l know, Keane has been brought back into the squad, sad really, he is a brilliant player, and l cannot see him in the future with Liverpool, there is so much firepower with Liverpool, that he will be down in the pecking order, whereas, with Spurs he was gurranteed that each week.:)
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Firepower, take away Gerrard and a fit Torres and whats left, sweet FA.:p: |
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Harry must have stuck a rocket up the team's backside its Spurs 3, Stoke 0, after twenty minutes,.
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4-1 to the Swans, premiership here we come :D
And United did well too ;) |
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Just watch the game on Sky, Rob Stiles is a very poor referee. :rolleyes:
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Look, I'm a Villa fan - allow me my dream :D |
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Well if you can keep Arsenal outside the top 4 then there will be a lot of happy people on this forum :) |
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Take away two key players at united, lets say ronaldo and rooney, whats left? United are on 39 goals for aided by 5 goals against 10 men last night, Liverpool are on 36 goals for. United are on 10 against, Liverpool are on 14. Interestingly, Aston Villa are on 38 goals for, does that mean Villa have a firepower almost equal to that of United? |
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But surely with those " surplus players " united should be going for around the 50 goal mark this time of the season? Considering that Liverpool according to one poster have sweet fa firepower I would be scratching my head were I a United supporter given the thin line in goals for between the two teams, and even Villa are on 38 goals. I reckon judgement day could come at Old trafford when we take on United, how sweet that would be. |
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Take Torres away from Liverpool and you don't really have any players known for knocking them in on a regular basis. Berbatov has taken time to find his feet but it seems like he's now in gear, Ronnie has been quiet, Rooney has been on form and Tevez, when making the team has been ok as well. So on the basis alone that United's front line haven't been reaching their potential this year, yet we are top of the league by 3 points, doesn't that say we have enough players to do the job? As for Liverpool at Old Trafford, seriously, dream on. |
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Berbatov - New to the team, i think he's still scored more than Keane has for Liverpool. Ronaldo - Injured at the begining of the season and found it hard to recover from that. Tevez - Only played a handful of games Rooney - Has been on form for a lot of the season, but has never been a prolific goalscorer. Takeaway Gerrard from Liverpool and they will be in big trouble, he scores a large amount of goals for them and sets up the majority of the rest. At the end of the day it doesn't matter how many goals you score, it's how many points you have that counts. Liverpool have choked numerous times this season already and only managed to draw games that they should be winning (Everton last week is a prime example), it's only January and the managers cracking up, i can't see Liverpool finishing in the top two this season. As for winning against us at OT, whens the last time you lot scored there, let alone won? ;) |
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Only one Liverpool player in the list of top goal scorers this season, three from United. :p:
http://www.4thegame.com/football-sta...ip/topscorers/ Even Vidic is as prolific as most of Liverpool's, 'awesome fire power' ;) When you consider that everyone agrees that United have not been at their scintillating best, its still better than the Scousers.:D Jim. |
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A stunning display of 'firepower' from the Scousers tonight.:D Torres & Gerrard both subbed. Arsenal scraped a late, undeserved draw as well. |
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Celtic vs Dundee Utd.
Penalty shootout. Up to penalty 10 now... ---------- Post added at 22:33 ---------- Previous post was at 22:32 ---------- I've never seen a sudden death go on this long. Number 11 now ---------- Post added at 22:35 ---------- Previous post was at 22:33 ---------- Dammit. :mad: Celtic through on the 12th penalty. |
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It seems since rafa beneathus had his little 'loss of temper' Liverpool have been poor , even at Anfailed the results are not going for them, on the Manchester side though , i have never seen United with a SQUAD with such depth and quality , there is another amazing set of youngsters ready to break through to join the more experienced players.
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Good win by MCFC tonight, debut goal by Bellamy...
Was really comical though watching Barton have a hissy-fit whilst going off through his injury...I'm sure the wall is now totally scared of his boot throwing skills... |
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Hi DerekS, Didn't you know that referee's in Scotland are more biased than English ones, that why Celtic and Rangers go through - its called money.
If you took Rangers and Celtic out of Scottish football, you wouldn't have any football, years ago, there used to be some great teams in Scotland ie Motherwell, Aberdeen, Hearts, etc, but it is all about Celtic and Rangers, that is why they always win on dubious decisions.;) That is why they cannot get into the English league, which they tried to do two years ago.:) |
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I have seen some Scottish games on TV and most of the grounds are empty, like a reserve game in English football, l find it really sad, As they do have some good clubs in Scotland, in fact l watched a tv Doc on Scottish football, and they had some guy who flies to watch Inverness at all games, and he lives in London.
I cannot see why, they don't almalgamate the two League, and l think the smaller clubs would benefit financially. When you think Celtic would fly down to there games and stay at a luxury hotel, whereas a club like Brechin would come down by train and probabely go home the same day (And that is nothing against Brechin). |
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The reality is there are too many senior football clubs in Scotland. A population of 5 million with 40 senior teams compared to England with 10 times the population and less than 3 times the amount of senior clubs. In the past there has been talk of amalgamating teams, e.g. one team from Edinburgh and Dundee but that wuold never work. Hibs, Hearts, Dundee and Utd are teams with their own rivalries. Theres no way they would stand on the terracing together to support an "Edinburgh Utd".
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Is it me or is it a really close season this year with the bottom 14 clubs all within 11 points of each other....
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You're not allowed to say that... West Ham still have to get out of that zone! :p:
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Isn't it strange how penalties are given at Man Utd, the referee must have been thick and stupid, to have given the most craziest penalties in my life, But there again, it was Old Trafford, and the ref. must have been scared of Sir Alex.
A penalty is given, when a player is brought down, in the area by the intent of serious foul or prevention of a goal scoring chance, what the Utd player did was fall over the side of the Everton player, and then fall over a second Everton player. |
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Arthur old bean, I'm assuming you missed the penalty towards the end that the ref didn't give to United, when Lescott brought down Carrick?
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RussB, l switched it off after that, l thought it would be one of those games, its like the game the other day with Liverpool, the commentator said that Everton haven't had a penalty in that game for 71 years, would you believe that.
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Arthur, what that player actually did was fall over the leg that the Everton player stuck out and if you did watch the same penalty that I did, you should have seen that Carrick did try to stay on his feet, instead of going over after the slightest of touches, which is something that you gone on about Ronaldo doing all the time. Cannot win...do something that every other team does and go to ground as if shot, we are in the wrong; try to stay on their feet, we are wrong again...what should they do?
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The Chelsea V Liverpool game, was another game where Mike Riley drops another clanger, there should have been TWO red cards.
The Frank Lampard incident was 50/50, but what about the incident on the corner flag, where the Chelsea player used his boots with studs showing on the Liverpool player, to shove him over, Red Card straight way, but what happened - nothing. This is what l have always said - no officials consistancy. |
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It's the old chestnut Arthur, if the referee does not see it........ Anyway, agree with the Lampard one, I have seen worse, but the result was right in the end ;) |
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HOTFLASH, Have a guess, who are in talks tonight about Robbie Keane - TOTTENHAM, hot from Sky Sports News
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Apparently Spurs could be docked points because they played Palacios against Boton when he was actually suspended. Let it be so :D
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Can't someone find something on Arsenal? I can't wait for them to drop out of the top 5 and they'd only need to be docked 7 points for that to happen :D
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I wish l could find something crap about the gooners, they are out of the running for the title, and Arsene, will be out of a job, lets see what happens next Sunday, when we wipe the floor, of the Gooners,
The big problem with Arsenal, they thought they were the big boys of NL, but it has gone downhill, and they haven't sign anyone in the window, probabely, as new players want Champions League football, and if they lose anymore games, they will end up with nothing - hooray. |
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I thought Palicios was suspended and only available for the match against arsenal. My mate is a spurs season ticket holder and he told me palacios wasn't available till the north london derby.
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Why should it be down to the ref to have to check every player is allowed to play? It's up to the clubs to know when a players suspension is and to make sure he serves it. The club know the rules, if they decide to field an inelligable player, whether they knew what they were doing or not, they should be punished for it. They would have surely been told by the FA that the player had a suspension, it's nothing to do with the referee. |
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It has always been the responsibility of Clubs themselves at all levels of the game. The clubs all know the rules.
I can understand amatuer and less well off clubs being caught up with admiinstrative errors but given the abundance of dosh in the Premiership you would think they could affort to pay an adminstrator to check on such things. :erm: |
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