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I've got a bit of dust under the glass on my screen. Looks like it's a common problem Googling about. Anyone else had the same problem and if so, did you get a new phone out of Apple?

MM

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I want a folding keyboard for my iPhone, like I had for my iPaq. It folded up small enough to fit in your suit pocket.
http://www.bmsoftware.co.uk/hardware...lekeyboard.htm

Want it NOW!

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I have a couple of specks under the glass on the camera lense.

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If you aren't adverse to jailbreaking

http://www.flickr.com/photos/5608333...7611952023311/

Although when 3.0 comes out, bluetooth might be opened up for everyone.

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Some rumours of new hardware features for the alleged new model in the Summer:

32GB storage (an obvious upgrade)

Better CPU and/or GPU




3.2MP camera + autofocus [ + flash?]

Front-facing camera for videocalling

Magnetometer (digital compass)

Some links for the last few -

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090403PB200.html

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/08/...-possibilites/

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/16/...s-for-iphones/

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/07/...-focus-camera/


One of the macrumors.com links also mentions video recording (found by delving into the OS 3.0 beta). Although the other things such as a 3.2MP camera and a magnetometer etc. would require a new hardware version, hopefully those of us with original/3G iPhones will still get the video recording feature with OS 3.0, seeing as AFAIK you can record video if you Jailbreak an iPhone.

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Thanks for the heads up :tu:

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Yeah... I should be ready for an upgrade by that point... unsure about whether it will be another iPhone OR an AndroidOS-based phone...

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A reason NOT to buy this piece of junk

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor..._Public_Outcry

This should have never been upload in the first place, Shame on you Apple!!

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So a 'mistake' in allowing this app to be available on the Applestore makes the phone a piece of crap, get a life, what about the tit wobble app, were you up in arms over that, or what about the duck shoot ......


Yes, they did make a bad call in letting this app through, it is tasteless and very very wrong, but come up with a valid excuse for not buying the phone, instaed of a third party app ffs

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Yes it was approved by mistake by Apple but it does not make the iPhone a piece of crap:dozey:

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So, Apple accidentally allow this app (that is written by someone else) to be released. When they find out about it, they pull it, yet you are criticising them for that? How about praising them for pulling it? How about criticising the person who wrote, sold and is making profit from it? How about critcising those who buy it?

Would you be asking people to boycott a Symbian or Windows Mobile phone (neither of which have markets as tightly controlled as the iPhone, so have no mechanism where the manufacturers can pull apps like this) if someone sold an app that did the same thing? What about PCs? Plenty of sick applications and games on those, and no mechanism to control their release.

The app is sick and should be banned, I agree. It has been banned, and I think you need to get some perspective.

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Well to be fair, Apple needs to test and double check that the app is ok - I think they test it on 5 devices, but really they should double check before letting it be published.

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Just found an interesting app on Digital spy. It's available on the Apple App store..

It's called "fstream" and it allows you to stream Ogg, WMAs and MP3s from online radio stations. Or, any streaming source. It also apparently allows you to record the audio as either WAV or AIFF, and can be controlled remotely via the web.


You can get a list of radio feeds (for this and other apps) from http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/indiv.asp

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Nice find :tu:

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May I ask should the new alleged iphone model be announced in June, how long until it is released in the UK? Also what would the expected monthly tariffs consist of and how much would they be looking at as a one off payment for the phone?

Also rumours surrounding the fact that vodafone may have got rights in selling iphone. Theyve already created a mobile iphone site...any input guys...?

http://portal.beta.vodafone.com/

http://portal.beta.vodafone.com/Help...final_v2.1.swf

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Hope Vodafone do get rights to sell it, would save me having to migrate my number/business away from them.

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well it says "available to iphone users including non-vodaphone" so it implies it includes vodaphone too

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i think its for jailbroken iphones orange do a similar service to the iphone

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...orange--596831

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For those who have Slingboxes, they've released an app that lets you watch TV from your slingbox on the iphone/ipod touch.

It's not cheap, and wifi only (apparently AT&T requested that limitation), but it could be good for when you are sitting in a WiFi area..


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...nes-store.html

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The word is Apple are going to announce the next iPhone today.

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I am not really fussed if they announce a new iPhone or not. :angel:

I just hope that 3.0 gets released today for my existing iPhone.

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That would be nice :D

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Hope they do.

My Vodafone contract runs out on 11 July, so I need to send off my notice today if I want to quit and move to O2. Would be nice to know what's happening with the new iPhone (and therefore whether to wait for it or not) before I have to do that.

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I hope they do, I want a 32gig one as my 16gig one is out of space. Better Battery life would be welcome as would the rumoured faster processor which would make browsing the web much faster. The Matte back would feel nicer as well.

re: The iPhone thread
 

I only have an 8gig one and its nowhere near full of crap yet :)

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The Apple Store is down as they 'are busy updating the store for you' ;)

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Live text feed starts soon over on http://www.macrumorslive.com/ and here too http://live.gizmodo.com/

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Yay! Tom Tom is coming to the iPhone!

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Source?

Anybody got a definitive link to some sort of announcement from Apple? The store's still down.

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Store's up here, just got an update to 8.2.0.23

EDIt, sorry, no store is down

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I've seen the TomTom update on the liveblog (watching Gizmodo's one)

Quite impressed with everything so far.

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What's that ngmoko:) thing about?

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Wow only 2 years behind everyone else....

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iPhone 3.0 Software for download on 17th June.

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Hush you. I'll quite happily look cool with my iPhone whilst lost. :erm:

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New iPhone (the 3GS) includes 7.2 meg HSDPA support and an autofocus 3MP camera with tap-to-focus (you can select which part of an image to focus on by tapping) and video support.

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A compass to boot as well woohoo..

No real change, but some minor changes such as the voice control etc. http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/wwdc...dc2009-840.jpg

3G model stays on market at $99, so lets see what UK price will be, £59? maybe...

Also $199 for 16gb, and $299 for 32gb, so expect £159, 259 respectively?

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I reakon £149/£249 here......

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You win some, you lose some. We have official iPlayer support..

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and about 50,000 Applications, and counting... :)

Anyone see the rude remark about the Palm Pre, only 18 apps?

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The 3.0 software also introduces the option to use your iPhone as a fully working modem. However O2 are making you pay extra. 3gig for £15 a month, 10gig for £30 a month. Ouch!. Doubt many will be taking that offer up...

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Very expensive conversion for UK pricing on the new iPhones:

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...-the-uk-606705

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Just like my N96 :angel:

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:mad: :shocked: :grind: :afire:

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It seems like O2 won't even allow upgrades unless your in the last month of your contract. Otherwise you will have to pay to terminate the contract.

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Yep no upgrades for O2 iphone users unless you are in your last month

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This is a joke considering the iPhone audience will contain many hardcore gadget fans who want the new techonology...

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The $99 price, is that PAYG?

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Doubt it...Since the PAYG price is over £300 here..

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If they substancially dropped the PAYG price then I might be tempted to see what the fuss is about.

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Prices from O2:

http://shop.o2.co.uk/update/paymonth.html

Stupidly expensive if you commit to 18 months, better if you commit to 24. Obviously a rip off you cannot upgrade early..

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I just checked my contract with O2 and online it's says it expires in October 2010!!! I got this one last July, making it over 24 months..Seems like somone's added an extra year..Technical weirdness.

re: The iPhone thread
 

:eek:

That's around £900 in total!!

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But, from O2's point of view (and the point of view of any other mobile provider), that is perfectly normal...

They let people upgrade early from the original iPhone because they did not subsidise it - people paid for it outright (plus IIRC it was out in the UK less than a year before the 3G then came out, so it would have been a case of urine extraction to not allow it really).

The 3G, however, is heavily subsidised. And, like any other subsidised mobile phone, the operator recoups that subsidy by locking the customer into a long & more expensive than normal contract.

Why should O2 let people upgrade early, when they are still effectively paying O2 back for the 3G subsidy via their contract?


However, from my own point of view... I agree with you, I want to upgrade! ;) :D

But not at the cost of buying out the remaining 12 months of my contract...

If I could sell my 16GB 3G (& my N95), I could put that towards a 3GS... but only if O2 let the contract renew ridiculously early for me, rather than make me buy it out... and I find that highly unlikely.

So I'll probably just have to wait until my contract expires next Summer, by which time, Apple will in all likelihood release the fourth version of the iPhone...


And O2 & Apple will doubtless know that, as hardcore gadget fans and/or hardcore Apple fans, many will still shell out for it regardless...

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Anyway.

It's only the gadget freak in me that really wants a 3GS now... I don't actually need a better camera, or video recording, or a compass, etc. Faster processor plus better graphics... yeah, good, but not something I'm desperate for either.

I'll make do with the OS 3.0 update, which I think is going to be a major improvement itself, even for the lowly 3G.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Same here, although I have had the 3.0 software for a while so I get no newness :(

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Ah, you got the Beta 'cos of the Developer Programme didn't you?

Another thing about the 3GS which doesn't really bother me:

7.2Mbps HSDPA.


From my experience, O2's 3G signal in Cambridge is a bit patchy at best, so I doubt I'd benefit much from the 3GS having 7.2Mbps HSDPA... unless O2 finally upgrade their masts or whatever in my area.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Yeah,

Well the problem with speed was a lot down to the processor, 3G is often faster than handsets can cope with. So I would quite like the new hardware for that season

re: The iPhone thread
 

I see we get shafted on the exchange rate again.

I'll probably just wait until the unlocked versions appear for sale on ebay, if the prices are reasonable enough.

re: The iPhone thread
 

And we get a better web browser...

re: The iPhone thread
 

why am I sooo drawn towards the iphone :) ... just a shame about the price of it ...

if I would get it it would just be as a payg phone really ...saves more money.

re: The iPhone thread
 

I still have a non-3G iPhone and apart from the 3.0 software upgrade, the "s" doesn't really seem worth the cash tbh. I am unsure which phone I'll choose when my contract ends in October but unless iPhone prices drop between now and then I doubt it will be one of them. There doesn't seem to be any phones out at the moment that really catch my eye (or the gadget freak in me).

re: The iPhone thread
 

There's a piece on the BBC news site about it and the price differences in the UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8090513.stm

02's updated prices

http://shop.o2.co.uk/update/paymonth.html

re: The iPhone thread
 

dont know if those figures for the US are for contract phones as well.

but sneaky of o2 not to pass any savings to the end user other then the shareholders or the directors.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Does anyone know for sure if a US locked iPhone will work on O2?

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o2 are a bunch of thieves.....this is a screenshot from T-mobile in Holland, the contract is for 2 years.

http://twitpic.com/6xn1q/full

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Hmm, im thinking an affordable upgrade - Those locked into those 18/24 month contracts, sell your phone as a PAYG - and buy the other 3GS on PAYG too.

So you get about £300 for your old iPhone, and you buy a 16gb 3GS for £450, unless you really want the 32gb, so thats £550.

Either £150/250 is lost, but the only realistic way to get a 'new' iPhone.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Couple of stories from Guardian Tech:

"O2 iPhone pricing upsets would-be buyers"


and...

"iPhone: O2 says buyers must pay a premium for new model"



"#o2fail" has been a popular hashtag on Twitter...

re: The iPhone thread
 

The problem is that the upgrade path and subsidised phones have been the way the phone market has operated for ages, but this is coming into conflict with the yearly cycle of upgrades for consumer devices.

I mean imagine being tied to any other device for 24 months, effectively forbidden from upgrades while technologies fires ahead. In the past phone upgrades were very incremental and were not considered computers, that's different now and it's going to annoy a lot of people.

Really the network needs to be disconnected from the hardware...

re: The iPhone thread
 

Been using my K750i for years now, and before that my 3310.
Honestly, i don't get why people need to have the latest and greatest... In their phone?

re: The iPhone thread
 

Question:
Answer:
If you're happy with a K750i (and seriously, nothing wrong with that - great phone) then to be fair, you wouldn't ever see why people want the latest & greatest. You're obviously not big into gadgets while some clearly are.

Re 'in their phone'. Any iPhone user will tell you it's very, very much more than a phone. The phone bit on mine is completely secondary. So secondary I use a Nokia N95 instead.
FWIW, I won't be upgrading to the newer one anyway. Ridiculous prices.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Here is another issue:

The Hardware allows developers a lot more features in their applications, especially graphically. The App Store will split into two with those on the inferior hardware unable to upgrade due to the contract issue, this is an insane way to handle a computing platform.

re: The iPhone thread
 

ARe you sure, could the apps not still run on the current iPhone 3G just with less graphical effects?

re: The iPhone thread
 

Nope. Ones designed for the 3G will work on 3GS but ones designed for the enhanced graphics will be for the new one only.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Not really.. It's no different to (say) a PC game requiring a certain minimum level of graphics card (try and run any recent game with a GeForce 2 or 3 and see what happens).

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Well if developers have to choose between making a product for 3G and 3G-S, then they'll choose 3G, sure there might be a marginal better graphics, but they want to make the most money - that's what most of what the App Store is about, and currently all of the 20 million iPhone devices are the 2G and 3G model - how many people will buy the 3GS if they are on the 3G?

re: The iPhone thread
 

But your not contractually obliged to stick to the same computer/graphic card. My point is that this is a mini-computer not just a phone and there is a greater demand for consistent upgrades in these types of device.

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I think it sucks too. I have a 3g and while I love it, I'd upgrade given half the chance. I won't be at the prices being charged.

However the iPhone is heavily subsidised. I suspect you'd find that you wouldn't be able to upgrade any pc that is heavily subsidised.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Another O2 quirk, friend of mine is on O2, asked them about a upgrade to the iPhone 3G and was told that since it has been so long since he last upgraded that he would have to apply for a new contract with new phone number rather than upgrade.

re: The iPhone thread
 

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communicatio...9661641,00.htm

Rip-Off Britain once more?

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You have to be careful how you compare prices. All iPhone contracts in the US are 24 month, so you have to ignore the 18 month ones.

If you compare the 24 month 3GS 16gb price to the equivalent US one its actually cheaper (£87.11 = $147 versus $199)

re: The iPhone thread
 

Spoiling my moan! :( ;)

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Still plenty to moan about. I hate how we now have so many 18 and 24 month contracts about. Its silly I think to be tied to a phone that long. They change so quick.

I want a new iPhone for 18 months (could manage that I guess), but £187 is really steep.

The iPhone costs are a bit ridiculous when you think that iPod Touches are a fraction of the price and only lack a GSM chip.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Yeah :(

I thought 18 month contracts were bad enough, but 24 month contracts are ridiculous.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Upgraded to 3.0 last night.

It's honestly like having a new phone! So many new features and little changes. I love it.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Oh, well done! Let us know what's what when you get chance. I've two units to do at some point. :erm:
Did I read copy and paste somewhere?

re: The iPhone thread
 

Amongst other things..

http://www.apple.com/iphone/softwareupdate/

re: The iPhone thread
 

Yes copy and paste is there.

There is 100 new features/changes in the software. I am just glad a friend is in the dev program and got me early access.

re: The iPhone thread
 

I don't like the fact you have to pay for Tethering... When you have unlimited data on the Pay Monthly Tariffs already? How do they distinguish between raw data and tethered data?

Not that it matters to me anyway as I'm only on a 2G iPhone...

re: The iPhone thread
 

Especially when its cheaper to get a dongle from O2 and use that instead of your iPhone.

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Apparently using the internet on a laptop uses more data than the iPhone does so thats why they charge so much:erm:

Think that is on the FAQ page on o2's site.

re: The iPhone thread
 

I did think about this when I had my n95. My tariff did have a 3 gig limit, and I thought of tethering my computer but I realised that while I'd be hard pressed to use a 3 gig monthly limit on a phone, on a computer, I could use it easily (think about it, even game demos can be up to a gig now)..

re: The iPhone thread
 

"shake to shuffle" - shake the ipod touch to shuffle to a new song in the music library.

I can predict that one will be popular with people who wear the iphone / ipod touch while jogging...

re: The iPhone thread
 

It only works if the iPod/iPhone is unlocked, so it won't be triggered by running.

re: The iPhone thread
 

It also only works if you have the iPod set to shuffle

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iPhone 3GS specs:

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/06/10/t-mob...sor-ram-specs/



iPhone 3GS in depth:

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/06/11/iphon...re-than-speed/

re: The iPhone thread
 

Just upgrading now :-)

Lets hope all goes well

http://i.gizmodo.com/5284779/iphone-...ested-it-works

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I'm tempted, but I'll wait.

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Waited 24 hours then decided if it did not work i can always flash it back and crack it or whatever and ebay it to get a 3gs. All seems to be going well so far, now restoring my settings to it. 7gb to transfer so I expect it might be a while.

re: The iPhone thread
 

I'll wait till next week, I assume Dev-Team etc are working on a Jailbreak, hopefully saurik updates Cycorder pretty sharpish to work with 3.0.

re: The iPhone thread
 

Works great, must have improved the speed by 10-20% overall. Really impressed

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PAC requested from Vodafone, should take 3-5 days to arrive.

Then it's just a case of getting down to the local O2 shop and bagging me one of the new iPhones :)

re: The iPhone thread
 

Looking forward to this but im not gonna bother on release day as the system is bound to melt with half the world ( j/k ) trying to get it all at once..next weekend will do when its quietened down.