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tdadyslexia 27-06-2008 15:28

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phormic Acid (Post 34585538)

Thank you will do! :D

gnilddif 27-06-2008 15:36

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecar1 (Post 34585772)
gnilddif,

you need to be careful about the selling of data,

if you read what they do they do not sell the data as they own (it is gifted to them by phorm) the dpi kit and adserver, they get a share of the revenue from the adverts served, subtle difference i know but they can simply argue they do not sell the data and ignore point 2

You're right Peter, careless of me. Thanks. But they should still clarify that to customers in order to satisfy the new trading regulations.
g

tdadyslexia 27-06-2008 15:57

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SelfProtection (Post 34585595)
Don't forget that these images are trademarks/Copyright Images. So it should be made obvious somewhere on the final image that this was the intended Webwise startup page as opposed to any actual page.

Don't want to be threatened by BT again do we.

Thank you for that, added to bottom: This was the intended Webwise startup page from BT, all trademarks belong to there respected owner. :angel:

Phormic Acid 27-06-2008 16:09

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SelfProtection (Post 34585595)
Don't forget that these images are trademarks/Copyright Images. So it should be made obvious somewhere on the final image that this was the intended Webwise startup page as opposed to any actual page.

I don’t think a criminal will have such scruples. On the warty edifice that is Webwise is one small phishing-protection wart, which is, unless Phorm are prepare to hand the whole task to a security company, almost certainly going to fall short. Webwise itself will provide one more social-engineering technique for would-be phishers. UK Internet users will start treating page diversions to other sites as normal. What happens if a phishing website notices the presence of a Webwise cookie and serves up a page similar to that in the figure below.

I’m hoping the Webwise invitation page used in any trial will be served over a secure connection using the new EV SSL and will make it clear how customers can differentiate between a genuine Webwise page hi-jack and one that is a phishing page.


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/06/6.png

Fig.: How a phishing website might take advantage of Webwise’s use of interstitial pages.

popper 27-06-2008 16:19

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
OT BR:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...e-built-deceit
"
DNA database built on deceit

Innocent people swept up in inquisitorial fervour

By Mark Ballard: Friday, 27 June 2008, 1:52 PM

THE UK GOVERNMENT has justified keeping the details of innocent people on the National DNA Database with shameless propaganda, according to a report by Genewatch.

The campaign group tackled claims repeated by Prime Munster Gordon Brown for retaining the DNA records of people picked up by the police but not charged with any offence, just in case they really do commit a crime one day.

This was not merely another reminder that the retention of innocent people's DNA threatens to replace the principle that all people are innocent until proven guilty, with the malodorous mantra that some people are more suspicious than others, we just can't prove that they are yet: it was a thorough shredding of the arguments used by the government and security hawks for the retention of innocent people's DNA

...
"

Privacy_Matters 27-06-2008 16:20

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phormic Acid (Post 34585884)
I don’t think a criminal will have such scruples. On the warty edifice that is Webwise is one small phishing-protection wart, which is, unless Phorm are prepare to hand the whole task to a security company, almost certainly going to fall short. Webwise itself will provide one more social-engineering technique for would-be phishers. UK Internet users will start treating page diversions to other sites as normal. What happens if a phishing website notices the presence of a Webwise cookie and serves up:


:D

EDIT: Original Post Quoted from ammended to add text: Fig.: How a phishing website might take advantage of Webwise’s use of interstitial pages.

Phormic Acid 27-06-2008 16:47

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters (Post 34585893)
Disclaimer??? maybe you should add one to protect yourself here? ...

Ok, I’ve hopefully made it clearer, by giving the figure a title. Now you just need to amend the quote in your post to contain one. :)

popper 27-06-2008 17:00

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
http://www.redorbit.com/news/technol...e=r_technology

mark777 27-06-2008 17:18

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popper (Post 34585914)

Interestingly, it was dated today, but had

"Copyright Haymarket Business Publications Ltd. Mar 26, 2008"

at the bottom, which ties in with the Tim BL interview "this week".?

Odd.

tdadyslexia 27-06-2008 17:29

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popper (Post 34585914)

Spin, Spin and more Spin. :sick:

Cogster 27-06-2008 17:40

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davethejag (Post 34585813)
BT promoting privacy! -

"BT Privacy at Home* registers you for the Telephone Preference Service which helps stop unwanted sales calls"

Taken from here ( BT Phone Service) -

http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...n_FURL_privacy

Dave.

Unless they come from BT that is..

Kursk 27-06-2008 18:19

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HamsterWheel (Post 34585656)
Anyone see the footy last night ? :D

Love him or hate him, this is funny ;)

Privacy_Matters 27-06-2008 19:30

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
82 to go to reach 15'000

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm/

popper 27-06-2008 19:48

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
OT BR:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/igeneration/?p=274
"
June 26th, 2008

Reformed computer criminals - your country needs you

Posted by Zack Whittaker @ 1:38 pm
And trust me, they really do.
...
According to The Register, over half the population of the UK have had their confidential and private records compromised at some point over the last year. I can’t find a statistic for the US, but I can imagine it to be a significant proportion of the population.
...

"

BadPhormula 27-06-2008 20:28

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phormic Acid (Post 34585884)
I don’t think a criminal will have such scruples. On the warty edifice that is Webwise is one small phishing-protection wart, which is, unless Phorm are prepare to hand the whole task to a security company, almost certainly going to fall short. Webwise itself will provide one more social-engineering technique for would-be phishers. UK Internet users will start treating page diversions to other sites as normal. What happens if a phishing website notices the presence of a Webwise cookie and serves up a page similar to that in the figure below.

I’m hoping the Webwise invitation page used in any trial will be served over a secure connection using the new EV SSL and will make it clear how customers can differentiate between a genuine Webwise page hi-jack and one that is a phishing page.


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/06/6.png

Fig.: How a phishing website might take advantage of Webwise’s use of interstitial pages.



I don't think anyone is going to fall for that phishing scam! Everyone knows that Phorm have already read all your bank details, credit card, financial transactions.


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