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Sephiroth 31-10-2023 11:30
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163136)
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution. It's a real comfort zone for those who don't like to be challenged by having neutral or left of centre presenters in the room.

GB News is no Panorama and is not the home of investigative journalism. It's an echo chamber of shock jocks which is racking up Ofcom fines, that's your evidence for bad reporting.

I will follow Johnson's time there with interest.
You've gone a bit extreme there, although a lesser degree of your assertion would be true. It's the 'right wing' assertion that bothers me - and therein lies the groupthink. 'Rightist' might be a better description that counters my 'leftie' description of the other news channels.

Hugh 31-10-2023 12:14
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What’s the difference between "rightist" and "right wing"?

This is what you get if you type "rightist definition politics" into Google

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1698754458

Or the Cambridge Dictionary definition

Quote:
a politician who supports the beliefs of the political right, especially the extreme right:

You appear to be indulging in both casuistry and tautology…

Sephiroth 31-10-2023 12:26
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163141)
What’s the difference between "rightist" and "right wing"?

This is what you get if you type "rightist definition politics" into Google

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1698754458

Or the Cambridge Dictionary definition


You appear to be indulging in both casuistry and tautology…

You are vastly overthinking this - probably for the purpose of your usual, annoying, contrariness.

"Rightist" is a reasonable counterpoise to "Leftist" and hence "Leftie".

Pierre 31-10-2023 13:14
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163136)
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution.
Anne Diamond, Eamonn Holmes, Michelle Dewbury, Stephen Dixon, Neil Oliver, Simon Evans, Mark Dolan, Isabel Webster.....I could go on.

All far right fascists, according to unhinged member.

1andrew1 31-10-2023 13:29
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163137)
You've gone a bit extreme there, although a lesser degree of your assertion would be true. It's the 'right wing' assertion that bothers me - and therein lies the groupthink. 'Rightist' might be a better description that counters my 'leftie' description of the other news channels.
I think it's quite evidently right-wing in accordance with its owners' wishes who underwrite the project. Nigel Farage, Lawrence Fox and Dan Wootton all meet this criteria. There's no left-wing presenters or centrist presenters to change this collective group think.

The heavily-regulated news channels from the BBC and Sky News aren't opinion channels in the way that GB News is. The closest channel to it in format is probably TalkTV which is right of centre but more journalist led.

Hugh 31-10-2023 13:51
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163143)

You are vastly overthinking this - probably for the purpose of your usual, annoying, contrariness.

"Rightist" is a reasonable counterpoise to "Leftist" and hence "Leftie".
Stating facts ≠ overthinking.

"Everyone knows" what rightist means…

If pointing out your tautological casuistry is contrariness, I plead guilty in the court of actuality, Your Honour… ;)

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36163145)
Anne Diamond, Eamonn Holmes, Michelle Dewbury, Stephen Dixon, Neil Oliver, Simon Evans, Mark Dolan, Isabel Webster.....I could go on.

All far right fascists, according to unhinged member.
Can’t find anyone* in this thread calling them fascists…

*except you, in post #999, re Eamonn Holmes

Sephiroth 31-10-2023 13:51
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163150)
Stating facts ≠ overthinking.

"Everyone knows" what rightist means…

If pointing out your tautological casuistry is contrariness, I plead guilty in the court of actuality, Your Honour… ;)
I sentence you to 2 years suspended for 5 minutes for you to collect your dictionaries.

Itshim 31-10-2023 18:38
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Bring on fox news !

Hugh 31-10-2023 20:16
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36163165)
Bring on fox news !
Been there, done that, closed it down…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41087659

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Sky stops broadcasting Fox News in UK

Published 29 August 2017

Sky is to stop broadcasting Fox News in the UK after low audience figures, the media firm has said.

21st Century Fox, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, said the channel was being withdrawn as it was not commercially viable.

The decision was not related to Fox's takeover bid for Sky, a source told the BBC.

Culture secretary Karen Bradley has previously said she may refer the bid to competition regulators.

"[Fox] has decided to cease providing a feed of Fox News Channel in the UK," a company spokeswoman said.

"Fox News is focused on the US market and designed for a US audience and, accordingly, it averages only a few thousand viewers across the day in the UK.

"We have concluded that it is not in our commercial interest to continue providing Fox News in the UK," she added.

Mr K 31-10-2023 20:48
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36163165)
Bring on fox news !
Or John Craven's Newsround, 100 times the journalistic integrity of GB 'news'.

Maybe Craven could be open to an offer?

Pierre 31-10-2023 21:33
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163168)
Been there, done that, closed it down…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41087659
Has it been that long!

I used to watch O’Reilly, before he got fired. I thought he was a self absorbed arrogant prick, but very watchable. Didn’t realise it’s been 6 years.

Mick 02-11-2023 04:57
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163136)
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution. It's a real comfort zone for those who don't like to be challenged by having neutral or left of centre presenters in the room.

GB News is no Panorama and is not the home of investigative journalism. It's an echo chamber of shock jocks which is racking up Ofcom fines, that's your evidence for bad reporting.

I will follow Johnson's time there with interest.
GB News has not had any financial penalties in any of the declared Ofcom breaches.

Great analysis, now do the pathetic lefty rags like guardian, or woke lefty. channel 4. Echo chambers for you Remainiacs. :rolleyes:

Russ 02-11-2023 15:21
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36163215)
GB News has not had any financial penalties in any of the declared Ofcom breaches.
In fairness it’s only been going a few years. I’m not sure I’m aware of any news outlets that have fallen foul to that level with Ofcom within its first few years.

But let’s not allow our hopes to drop - even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually :D

TheDaddy 02-11-2023 15:29
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36163236)
But let’s not allow our hopes to drop - even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually :D
And if it's nutty enough they'll probably give it a presenting job

1andrew1 02-11-2023 15:33
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36163215)
GB News has not had any financial penalties in any of the declared Ofcom breaches.

Great analysis, now do the pathetic lefty rags like guardian, or woke lefty. channel 4. Echo chambers for you Remainiacs. :rolleyes:
I thought GB News had been fined when I read articles such as

GB News presenter quits after channel tries to make him pay Ofcom fines

It sounds like when push came to shove they decided against it.

However, they have obviously had several rulings made against their programming.


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