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denphone 08-01-2018 13:37

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
This Tweet from Rupert Harrison.:D

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Rupert Harrison
@rbrharrison

So far this reshuffle is both very stable and genius
12:27 PM - Jan 8, 2018

Damien 08-01-2018 18:11

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Hunt remains Health Minister (now renamed to include social care) after refusing a move to Business which in turn means Greg Clark stays. All the Brexit ministers stay in their roles including Johnson. Rudd Stays. Javid stays. Hammon stays. Williamson stays.

A new Party Chairman and NI Secretary.

Terrible reshuffle. Looks like Hunt and Johnson refusing to move scuppered it all.

Kursk 08-01-2018 20:58

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35931573)
A new Party Chairman and NI Secretary.

And that's all that was needed; it's not musical chairs, it's primarily about continuity.

I also think Damian Green could have stayed and JB as we know is unwell.

denphone 08-01-2018 21:11

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35931573)
Hunt remains Health Minister (now renamed to include social care) after refusing a move to Business which in turn means Greg Clark stays. All the Brexit ministers stay in their roles including Johnson. Rudd Stays. Javid stays. Hammon stays. Williamson stays.

A new Party Chairman and NI Secretary.

Terrible reshuffle. Looks like Hunt and Johnson refusing to move scuppered it all.

And Justine Greening quits government.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-42602570

Damien 08-01-2018 21:14

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Wouldn’t accept the welfare post. Been a bit of a disaster this.

Mick 08-01-2018 22:09

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35931621)
Wouldn’t accept the welfare post. Been a bit of a disaster this.

I could not agree more.

Wow, there is something we 'politically' agree on. :D

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Jeremy Hunt seen 'liking a tweet', that mentions the resignation of Justine Greening...

Says he pressed 'like' by accident...

Can someone tell me if Benny Hill will appear from some where next in Downing Street... ?

https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/stat...61803997384704

Mr K 08-01-2018 22:16

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https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/stat...832943104?s=17
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Greening's departure could well be bad news for Govt's Brexit majority - an impassioned Remainer in a marginal seat that voted heavily to Remain. A new mutineer?
It's all part of Theresa masterplan, she's is a remainer after all ,;)

Keep up the good work on the NHS Jeremy, no one could do it like you..

Mick 08-01-2018 22:24

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Yvette Cooper, Labour MP always has a blunt response to incompetence...

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So 2 people she wanted to move stayed, 2 people she wanted to stay in Cabinet left, 2 people got appointed to the same job in ten minutes, & 2 people got extra words in their titles. Quite a reshuffle
Don't normally agree with the Labour benches but she is spot on.

This was by far the worst Cabinet reshuffle day, ever.

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I have seen enough to be frank...

Someone needs to do this... for real...


Mr K 08-01-2018 22:40

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931630)
Yvette Cooper, Labour MP always has a blunt response to incompetence...



Don't normally agree with the Labour benches but she is spot on.

This was by far the worst Cabinet reshuffle day, ever.

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I have seen enough to be frank...

Someone needs to do this... for real...


So which one of the many talents in the cabinet, will rescue us Mick? :erm:

Damien 08-01-2018 22:47

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931626)
I could not agree more.

Wow, there is something we 'politically' agree on. :D

Almost worrying ;)

I don't understand why they didn't plan better for this? Did no one sound out Hunt to see if he wanted to leave the Health department? Why allow weeks of speculation of a reshuffle without being sure you can pull if off.

Mick 08-01-2018 22:50

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35931633)
So which one of the many talents in the cabinet, will rescue us Mick? :erm:

It's not the cabinet I have issues with, it's the leadership, May is a walking disaster for the Tories. I was prepared to give her a chance but she's monumentally blown it for me. Time to step aside.

I mean that was not the only issue when she gave that speech when she was handed her P45. The set behind her fell apart and she lost her voice.

Nothing Strong and Stable about it....


Mr K 08-01-2018 22:55

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931635)
Nothing Strong and Stable about it....

Be fair, she's one of those 'Stable Genius' type of people ;)

Damien 08-01-2018 23:13

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Greening is probably the weirdest one. By all accounts she was liked in the sector, by her department and her cabinet colleagues. It seems she was doing fine at education yet May moves her anyway? Whilst keeping Hunt at health as he removes to move?

Mick 08-01-2018 23:20

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35931636)
Be fair, she's one of those 'Stable Genius' type of people ;)

Sorry Mr K, don't think Trump approves... :D

BREAKING: Trump disapproves sharing his Stable Genius title with Theresa May...

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1515449837

1andrew1 08-01-2018 23:55

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931640)
Sorry Mr K, don't think Trump approves... :D

BREAKING: Trump disapproves sharing his Stable Genius title with Theresa May...

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1515449837

lol :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35931638)
Greening is probably the weirdest one. By all accounts she was liked in the sector, by her department and her cabinet colleagues. It seems she was doing fine at education yet May moves her anyway? Whilst keeping Hunt at health as he removes to move?

Policy disagreement with Theresa May. Greening was not obsessed with new grammar schools preferring instead to improve all schools. May's pet interest apart is the establishment of more grammar schools.
Now Remainer Greening will be on the sidelines and keeping a watching brief on Brexit - so another problem Theresa May has created for herself.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35931634)
Almost worrying ;)

I don't understand why they didn't plan better for this? Did no one sound out Hunt to see if he wanted to leave the Health department? Why allow weeks of speculation of a reshuffle without being sure you can pull if off.

Maybe that's what Damian Green's role would have been but surely as you say, someone from May's team would have done their homework and made discrete enquiries through third parties of Hunt, Greening etc.
The same incompetence arose with Toby Young when Theresa May was caught off guard in the Andrew Marr show and shown not to have commissioned research on his social media comments. Basic due diligence.
It seems evident that the accusations of the Government's machinery bowing under the weight of the Brexit negotiations have some validity.


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