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In our case we have simply not got the room for a 55 inch TV or bigger in our main room.

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And honestly, even if you do, it's not always obvious. I got a 55" Samsung TV last year - one of the non-QLED screens.

A lot of the time, good quality HD and 4K can be roughly the same. Even where you do notice it, you get used to it after a while - kind of like when you go to the cinema and get used to the screen size.

For me it's the combination of 4K and HDR that's really noticeable, rather than just 4K alone.

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Don’t forget that decent 4K TVs upscale HD, which improves PQ.

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So the broadcasters may be better spending money on developing good quality HD rather than UHD with all the problems that seems to bring with it

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There is a difference in making things in 4k and broadcasting in 4k.

So for me the move to 4k production is worth it. However 4k broadcasts and TVs need to settle on a set of standards that are consistent. Without that the end results will vary wildly.

But that's also one of the things the BBC are trying to figure out and the one of the reasons they haven't yet got a permanent 4k schedule.

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Well, if you go into John Lewis, the vast number of UHD TVs for sale may surprise you. Most of the sets displayed in our branch are now UHD. As people need to replace their existing sets for the main room, this really is the choice that there is.

I do think a great many people are interested in UHD and HDR - these will be the most common TV sets in the future. It's not the same as 3D - I could never see that taking off because of the need to wear those ridiculous glasses.

The next big thing will be 8K, and that is unlikely to be as popular because the picture improvement that goes with it is only noticeable on the really massive screens.

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Yes, it is, I enjoyed watching Bloodline.

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As Ben has said, there are advantages in having a good UHD/HDR TV even without UHD material broadcast to it

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There were quite a few people who thought that owning an HD screen was all they needed for HD in its early years, just as some thought owning an LCD slim screen meant they were watching digital TV, when they were watching analogue. Additionally those sets that upscaled to HD did often did a good enough job that their owners were already pleased, many just liked having proper widescreen for the first time as it coincided with them getting digital for the first time.

I know we were perfectly content with Pace/SA/Samsung cable boxes with SD through SCART such was the quality of the job of the upscaling my Sony HD screen did. We did notice the difference when we eventually got a V+HD but there weren't many HD channels, and that box upscaled SD well on all the other channels, as did the Tivo and now the V6. Most of the HD I saw for years was Blu-ray films via my PS3.

My point being many people bought HD capable screens because of they wanted slim screens, or larger screens, or widescreen, because they needed one with a digital tuner for switchover (and not with a HD tuner, only SD digital tuners were on the market). There was a long time where the market had virtually no HD channels, particularly free channels despite the shops being exclusively slim LCD televisions and yet people were still happy with the advances they brought.

Don't get me wrong I love the picture on these UHD store demos, but we don't have room for them, and hearing people saying you don't notice much unless you have a certain size and you have to be a certain distance to get any benefit, we're in no rush. We purposely didn't get a UHD screen when our last HD TV died as we didn't have any UHD equipment/sources, and there was no point buying into a technology with undecided standards i.e. HDR.

I wouldn't be surprised if most people with UHD TVs are quite content with the upscaling of HD, that's likely what most of their entertainment consumption is.

I would like a UHD screen eventually, but it would mainly for gaming.

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I've not been overly impressed with HDR so far if I'm honest in fact I've watched some in HDR on my TV's app and then tried the title in UHD on my Sky Q box and thought the picture better without the HDR.

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What TV do you have? Even with HDR just because a TV supports it doesn't mean it's very good at it!

I've got the Nu8000 from Samsung and it's OK for HDR. Not great but not rubbish. I think you really need a TV that's capable of full local dimming and that can get to 1500 nits or higher to get into great looking HDR.

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Sony XF90.

To be fair Ben its only Netflix and Amazon I've tried HDR content with.

Don't get me wrong the set provides a pretty damn good picture but I'm not blown away with the HDR I've seen so far.

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If you have the latest consoles then they support HDR and on my PS4 Pro it is fantastic.

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If you are not getting a massive difference when HDR is on - then the tv setup is is wrong.
But also some assets themselves will not have the 'wow' factor.

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Many people are reporting Netflix HDR is to dark , one example is Ozark.

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ive got a samsung uhd tv and the HDR on amazon prime just looks dull.