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Ignitionnet 04-01-2016 12:22

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
In other news.

I foresee UKIP making some hay with this. Quite rightly so may I add. Our immigration system is a mess and the root of it lies with the EU requiring free movement between states that are too economically divergent.

Turkey next. Free movement for 78 million people, a PPP GDP per capita in between Bulgaria and Romania at less than half ours, a nominal GDP per capita somewhere between 30 and 45% of ours, huge inequality and evidence of providing ISIL military and civilian supplies, alongside active military action in Syria against those fighting ISIL, while persecuting their brethren within Turkey.

Turkey should be kicked out of NATO and be in receipt of economic sanctions and international pariah status, not cash and a fast track into the EU.

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35815532)
My Swedish friends have been waiting for this to happen for months. In fact not just waiting but campaigning actively.

Wow. Bet they were popular. Swedish government were literally in tears at being unable to handle the influx of refugees. Never mind the impact of their result on ordinary Swedes.

Sweden is the only western nation, as far as I'm aware, forecast to drop in the human development index over the next 15 years.

Can't think what that could be related to. Just exhibiting the same level of denial as the Swedish government and, apparently, much of the country.

Osem 04-01-2016 13:25

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35815532)
My Swedish friends have been waiting for this to happen for months. In fact not just waiting but campaigning actively.

I guess they don't like the idea that just about anyone can just turn up at the border and expect to be taken in...

Taf 04-01-2016 13:54

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The attitude of the Swedish government has been bizarre to say the least.

"People just don't talk about the impact of uncontrolled immigration despite the rising crime, especially that against our young women".

"You just do not see young women out on their own any more after dark, even in busy places".

"To report an incident caused by an immigrant, is to mark yourself as a racist, a radical racist, and the police ignore you automatically".

"Questions to our local representatives are futile if there is any hint of perceived racism".

"There is no integration. There is separatism. They do not want to live with us. All they appear to do is demand more and more resources to make them more independent of us".

"Why do they come here when so many obviously hate us, our way of life, and our climate?"

"My son's Christian Club offered them gifts, all were opened and rejected".

"We were a country with no major religious beliefs, but now we are becoming a country of muslim belief and practices".

Osem 04-01-2016 14:04

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The attitude of plenty of politicians and governments in regard to this matter has been and still is bizarre IMHO. If ever there was a disaster in the making this is one but there are still those with eyes shut, fingers in ears, shouting la, la, la...

Osem 04-01-2016 17:02

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Denmark has tightened its border controls with Germany, hours after Sweden imposed similar measures to deter migrants entering from Denmark.

Danish Prime Minister Lars Loekke Rasmussen said the decision was "not a happy moment" but Denmark "must respond" to Sweden's restrictions.

Danish police will carry out border spot checks for the next 10 days.

The two countries are the latest to impose controls in Europe's Schengen passport-free travel area.

In a letter to the European Commission, Inger Stojberg, Denmark's integration minister, said the controls would focus initially on the border with Germany but may be extended to all of Denmark's borders.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35222015

nomadking 04-01-2016 23:13

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Just five arrests have been made by German police after central Cologne was transformed into a war-zone on New Year’s Eve, as an estimated 1,000 migrants celebrated by launching fireworks into crowds and sexually assaulting German women caught up in the chaos.


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Cologne police chief Wolfgang Albers says witnesses described the assaults as coming from a group of up to 1,000 men whose appearance indicated they were of "Arab or North African origin."
Some 60 criminal complaints have so far been filed, including one allegation of rape.
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The police union said of the incidents: “This is a completely new dimension of violence. This is something we have not known”.
Looks like they and other European countries are going to have to get used to it. Of course Eastern European countries won't be that affected as they are are not going there and/or are not being let in.

If the authorities are able to hide something of this scale, even only just for a few days, just imagine what else they are hiding.

Ramrod 05-01-2016 21:27

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I read about this in Breitbart a few days ago but didn't bother to post it here on CF as the usual suspects would have just dismissed this news as fake because of the source. It's finally reached the mainstream media so here you go: Cologne New Year gang assaults on women
Cologne inquiry into 'coordinated' New Year's Eve sex attacks
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The mayor of Cologne has summoned police for crisis talks after about 80 women reported sexual assaults and muggings by men on New Year's Eve.

The scale of the attacks on women at the city's central railway station has shocked Germany. About 1,000 drunk and aggressive young men were involved.

City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said.

Women were also targeted in Hamburg.

But the Cologne assaults - near the city's iconic cathedral - were the most serious, German media report. At least one woman was raped, and many were groped.

Most of the crimes reported to police were robberies. A volunteer policewoman was among those sexually molested.

Osem 05-01-2016 22:48

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Don't worry. It's nothing whatsoever to do with uncontrolled migration which, as we've all been told, is positive and can only be good for us. Frankly, it's about time our loved ones could look forward to being attacked, robbed, sexually assaulted and worse by a wider range of miscreant than the usual home bred ****. Competition can only be good for us remember and it's about time the world of criminality was opened up to practitioners from as far around the globe as possible...

Derek 06-01-2016 08:02

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Don't worry. The mayor is on it, get ready for all women in Cologne to be issued Burkas to stop similar incidents in the future.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6798186.html

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The Mayor of Cologne said today that women should adopt a “code of conduct” to prevent future assault at a crisis meeting following the sexual attack of women by 1000 men on New Year’s eve.

Osem 06-01-2016 08:24

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It wasn't that long ago that anyone daring to mention crime, antisocial behaviour etc. associated with migration would be denounced by some as a rabid xenophobe stirring up trouble.

nomadking 06-01-2016 10:25

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Fail to see how the suggested "code of conduct" would have helped. The victims' weren't the ones doing any approaching.
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The suggested code of conduct includes maintaining an arm’s length distance from strangers, to stick within your own group, to ask bystanders for help or to intervene as a witness, or to inform the police if you are the victim of such an assault.
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Women reported being tightly surrounded by groups of men who harassed and mugged them. Some people threw fireworks into the crowds, adding to the chaos.
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One of the victims, identified only as Katja L, told the Kölner Express: “When we came out of the station, we were very surprised by the group we met, which was made up only of foreign men … We walked through the group of men, there was a tunnel through them, we walked through … I was groped everywhere. It was a nightmare. Although we shouted and hit them, they men didn’t stop.
The problems aren't with migration in general, just those from certain countries and/or of certain types. Eg those from places Australia, Japan, US, Spain are not that much of those sort of problems.

Whether they weren't all "newly-arrived refugees" or not, is irrelevant, there would have been less recent arrivals and the newer ones ganged up alongside them. Adding more isn't going to help stop it.

Osem 06-01-2016 12:30

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Maybe it's all part of the EU's cultural enrichment plan... :rolleyes:

heero_yuy 06-01-2016 17:41

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Funny how on the day the BBC TV news completely failed to identify the malefactors as of "Arab appearance" Probably doesn't fit their agenda.:(

Osem 06-01-2016 21:38

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35815874)
Funny how on the day the BBC TV news completely failed to identify the malefactors as of "Arab appearance" Probably doesn't fit their agenda.:(

Yep, same thing on Radio 5 Live news just now - 'women attacked by groups of men' was as far as they went. Clearly they don't want anyone coming to any unfortunate conclusions about the less palatable consequences of uncontrolled migration (mostly young single males), open borders etc.

There have been similar problems of sexual violence within 'refugee' camps so why anyone would be surprised by this sequence of events or deny any link to the migration chaos in the EU is beyond me.

Damien 06-01-2016 21:49

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I don't scan every single broadcast but the BBC news report have mentioned it on his report: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35239347

As well as this report: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35239377

And on this article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35241818 and here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35241808


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