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Saaf_laandon_mo 10-09-2007 11:19

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by ikthius (Post 34393364)
so what will happen to the money, when she is found, dead or alive???
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Thats an interesting question. Let's assume the parents are found innocent of any involvement, and Maddies body is never found. Will this fund keep on growing and growing?

If the parents are found guilty, are all donators entitled to a refund?

RizzyKing 10-09-2007 11:22

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I would imagine in either case it would be donated to charity that would be the correct thing to do.

Damien 10-09-2007 12:05

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
The McCanns are now using the media to try and discredit the police, a job made easier but the suggestions of incompetence earlier in the case. A lot is being done via other family members like they usually do.

Doesnt mean they are guilty or not but I dislike the way they are doing it. Just looks bad to go around claiming you've been framed and saying that the only reason you care is because it means they are not looking for her.

ikthius 10-09-2007 12:05

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34393371)
I would imagine in either case it would be donated to charity that would be the correct thing to do.

yeah, their charity, or the maddy charity.......

sorry I just see they will never stop asking for cash, I think they were getting used to jet setting it in famous peoples planes.

oh, and what happened to never leaving portugal until she is found???? is this another lie from them?

mrmistoffelees 10-09-2007 12:07

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Taken from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6986514.stm


'The McCanns can be recalled to Portugal with five days' notice. They are being advised by Michael Caplan QC and Angus McBride, from London legal firm Kingsley Napley.

Mr Caplan acted for former Chilean dictator General Augusto Pinochet when Spain attempted to extradite him from the UK in 1999. '

Oh aye, and how are they paying for this then............

RizzyKing 10-09-2007 12:13

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I have to be honest i don't like the way they have used family and friends to get their side of events out. Sometimes they act as you would expect parents to act and on other times they act as though they are guilty it is just one more confusing aspect of this whole thing. I think recent events cast more light on them as people then anything else.

TheDaddy 10-09-2007 12:16

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Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34393356)
The web site? It is sponsored by the web host and won't have cost a penny.


14. What is the money being spent on?

The Fund is supporting the McCann family during their search for Madeleine and in ensuring a high profile of Madeleine’s abduction is maintained. As at the end of July 2007, only a small proportion of the money raised has been spent. This has been on awareness raising items e.g. wristbands, website, family expenses and professional fees, including concerning international law on child abduction and the costs of setting up the Fund. The directors are considering the future strategy of the Fund to ensure effective use of funds


http://www.findmadeleine.com/fund/faq.asp

Saaf_laandon_mo 10-09-2007 12:17

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34393385)
The McCanns are now using the media to try and discredit the police, a job made easier but the suggestions of incompetence earlier in the case. A lot is being done via other family members like they usually do.

Doesnt mean they are guilty or not but I dislike the way they are doing it. Just looks bad to go around claiming you've been framed and saying that the only reason you care is because it means they are not looking for her.

I agree. The language being used in the Sun today for example paints a picture that they are innocent, having gone through enough already, and basically the Portuguese are out of order to name them as suspects.

Trying to discredit the Portuguese police by revealing accounts of plea bargains, as well as slating the decision to make them suspects, assuming they are totally innocent of any wrong doing, is, in my opinion a dangerous approach to take.

TheDaddy 10-09-2007 12:18

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Originally Posted by ikthius (Post 34393364)
so what will happen to the money, when she is found, dead or alive???

If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.

mrmistoffelees 10-09-2007 12:19

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34393395)
  1. What is the money being spent on?
The Fund is supporting the McCann family during their search for Madeleine and in ensuring a high profile of Madeleine’s abduction is maintained. As at the end of July 2007, only a small proportion of the money raised has been spent. This has been on awareness raising items e.g. wristbands, website, family expenses and professional fees, including concerning international law on child abduction and the costs of setting up the Fund. The directors are considering the future strategy of the Fund to ensure effective use of funds


http://www.findmadeleine.com/fund/faq.asp

In my personal opinion the text I have highlighted seems rather nondescript

ikthius 10-09-2007 12:27

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34393398)
If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.

so basically, no matter what happens, keep giving us money so we can do a moonbeams!!!!!

TheDaddy 10-09-2007 12:42

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34393401)
In my personal opinion the text I have highlighted seems rather nondescript

Hmm this isn't some sort of piggy bank for them to dip into as they see fit, however much they might like it to be, the reason why their is still a million in the bank is because the trustee's have behaved responsibly with it and because of the red tape involved in spending it

So far only £70,000 has been spent – on setting up a website, running a press office, producing wristbands, T-shirts and posters and paying legal fees.

and IIRC the legal fee's weren't there own but the ones associated with setting up a company


http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...spend-%C2%A31m

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Originally Posted by ikthius (Post 34393409)
so basically, no matter what happens, keep giving us money so we can do a moonbeams!!!!!

I wouldn't have thought they'd raise much after she is found, what do you suggest they should do with any cash left over then, spend it on a big party :rolleyes:

mrmistoffelees 10-09-2007 12:44

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34393413)
Hmm this isn't some sort of piggy bank for them to dip into as they see fit, however much they might like it to be, the reason why their is still a million in the bank is because the trustee's have behaved responsibly with it and because of the red tape involved in spending it

So far only £70,000 has been spent – on setting up a website, running a press office, producing wristbands, T-shirts and posters and paying legal fees.

and IIRC the legal fee's weren't there own but the ones associated with setting up a company


http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...spend-%C2%A31m

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I wouldn't have thought they'd raise much after she is found, what do you suggest they should do with any cash left over then, spend it on a big party :rolleyes:


I quite agree with what you're saying, the point im trying to make (albeit badly) is that from the description (or rather lack there of) it would appear that the money could be used by them for defence costs.

XFS03 10-09-2007 12:54

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34393401)
In my personal opinion the text I have highlighted seems rather nondescript

I think this FAQ is interesting too:-

13. I’ve heard that Kate and Gerry McCann might benefit from the Fund. Is this true?
Yes – the Fund provides support to Kate and Gerry. One of the reasons the Fund was established was to support Madeleine’s family. The objects specifically include financial assistance. The directors approve all payments to Kate and Gerry, with family members not having a vote. When considering whether proposed payments are reasonable, the directors consider donor intentions in addition to the Fund’s objects.
To date, much of the expenditure incurred by Kate and Gerry has been covered by donations in kind being made by generous benefactors.

I wonder how many donors knew what the money would be used for when they made their donation?

I can see there being some bad feeling between the family members and non-family members of the board when it comes down to deciding whether to allow "financial assistance" payments to be made to members of the family.

As for using the fund money to pay for publicity items, such as wristbands & T-shirts, wouldn't you think that the McCanns would prefer to use their own money to pay for such items? Wouldn't you think that it would make them feel that little bit better about themselves if they put their hands in their pockets and paid for items publicising the disappearance of their own daughter, then donated the proceeds to the fund.

TheDaddy 10-09-2007 12:54

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34393417)
I quite agree with what you're saying, the point im trying to make (albeit badly) is that from the description (or rather lack there of) it would appear that the money could be used by them for defence costs.

I know what you meant and as I said I don't think the trustee's would allow it, besides if you believe what you read in the papers as many here obviously do, wealthy benefactors have financed most of their 'awareness trips', not to far fetched to assume that they'd pay their legal fees is it?


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