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Sephiroth 31-05-2021 18:56

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36081444)
I’d love to know why cyclists should pay a tax that hasn’t existed since the late 1930’s

Perhaps you mean they should pay VED? Which would be interesting as it’s engine size/emissions based…. Also VED goes straight to the general treasury and isn’t used directly toward the maintenance/upkeep of highways

You might be being a bit specific here! The suggestion is, obviously, that as road users they should be taxed appropriately. It could be levied onto the cost of a bicycle so that admin effort is minimised, but that would slightly miss the point of annually taxing a pest at the point of consumption. Indeed, they should pay insurance too.

At this time of year, they are an absolute scourge.

Jaymoss 31-05-2021 19:07

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36081446)
You might be being a bit specific here! The suggestion is, obviously, that as road users they should be taxed appropriately. It could be levied onto the cost of a bicycle so that admin effort is minimised, but that would slightly miss the point of annually taxing a pest at the point of consumption. Indeed, they should pay insurance too.

At this time of year, they are an absolute scourge.

They are taxed the same as cars. No engine no emissions no tax. Some form of insurance maybe but not going to happen because unless you forgot there is a push for more people to use less petrol / diesel so they are hardly likely to start forcing cyclists to pay to use the roads

do you always drive within the speed limit? and always follow all the rules of the road? because those who drive who do not are a scourge all the time not just in good weather

Itshim 31-05-2021 19:19

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36081448)
They are taxed the same as cars. No engine no emissions no tax. Some form of insurance maybe but not going to happen because unless you forgot there is a push for more people to use less petrol / diesel so they are hardly likely to start forcing cyclists to pay to use the roads

do you always drive within the speed limit? and always follow all the rules of the road? because those who drive who do not are a scourge all the time not just in good weather

Around this part of Cardiff the rules are bikes ride and cars (parked*) on the pavement. Pedestrians in the road . Traffic lights are not for cyclists. If they had a number plate then perhaps things would start to get better.
* Law starting to be brought in banning it cant be to soon for me.

Sephiroth 31-05-2021 19:19

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36081448)
They are taxed the same as cars. No engine no emissions no tax. Some form of insurance maybe but not going to happen because unless you forgot there is a push for more people to use less petrol / diesel so they are hardly likely to start forcing cyclists to pay to use the roads

do you always drive within the speed limit? and always follow all the rules of the road? because those who drive who do not are a scourge all the time not just in good weather

But you're drifting from the point. On the curving country roads, the ride 2 abreast at best and in Peloton formation at worst. You can't get past them and they know it. Scourge doesn't cover it!

Carth 31-05-2021 19:20

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No Insurance, for something that can whiz along at 25mph in heavy (including pedestrian) traffic.

A helmet will not prevent damage to the first one that hits my car :D

Jaymoss 31-05-2021 19:31

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36081451)
But you're drifting from the point. On the curving country roads, the ride 2 abreast at best and in Peloton formation at worst. You can't get past them and they know it. Scourge doesn't cover it!

and often on windy country lanes I see cars driving way to fast a danger to every one

I do not cycle in groups and never have

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36081450)
Around this part of Cardiff the rules are bikes ride and cars (parked*) on the pavement. Pedestrians in the road . Traffic lights are not for cyclists. If they had a number plate then perhaps things would start to get better.
* Law starting to be brought in banning it cant be to soon for me.

bad cyclists are always lumped in with the good cyclists in these discussions though. I have no issue for tougher rules for bad cyclists

Sephiroth 31-05-2021 20:41

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36081453)
and often on windy country lanes I see cars driving way to fast a danger to every one

I do not cycle in groups and never have

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bad cyclists are always lumped in with the good cyclists in these discussions though. I have no issue for tougher rules for bad cyclists

You still don't seem to fully get it. I'm not having a go at the "good" cyclists. The Pelptons and two abreast are bad cyclists and a total scourge.

TheDaddy 31-05-2021 20:54

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36081444)
I’d love to know why cyclists should pay a tax that hasn’t existed since the late 1930’s

Perhaps you mean they should pay VED? Which would be interesting as it’s engine size/emissions based…. Also VED goes straight to the general treasury and isn’t used directly toward the maintenance/upkeep of highways

You realise that with the move to electric there isn't going to be any emissions, by your logic none of us will have anything to pay except they're talking about charging us by the mile to replace the lost fuel duty, presumably you're fine with that applying to push bikes to

Jaymoss 31-05-2021 21:15

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36081496)
You still don't seem to fully get it. I'm not having a go at the "good" cyclists. The Pelptons and two abreast are bad cyclists and a total scourge.

but you want to levy a charge on cycling full stop so that is having a go at good cyclists because you will be penalising good and bad

Sephiroth 31-05-2021 21:29

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36081520)
but you want to levy a charge on cycling full stop so that is having a go at good cyclists because you will be penalising good and bad

You've got me stumped there! So, engaging brain, two abreast must be outlawed. Something's got to be done about this annual scourge.


mrmistoffelees 01-06-2021 11:46

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36081506)
You realise that with the move to electric there isn't going to be any emissions, by your logic none of us will have anything to pay except they're talking about charging us by the mile to replace the lost fuel duty, presumably you're fine with that applying to push bikes to


Of of course, they'll find something else to tax on. Which will probably be where price per mile charging comes in...

As others have mentioned, the guvmin appear to be very keen for people to get 'on their bikes' can't see them introducing anything to dissuade it

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36081451)
But you're drifting from the point. On the curving country roads, the ride 2 abreast at best and in Peloton formation at worst. You can't get past them and they know it. Scourge doesn't cover it!

It would appear that you seem to believe you have divine right to pass cyclists ?

As i on a motorbike, can easily outpace & manoeuvre you in a car. I'd presume you would have no issue with me smashing your wing mirror off should you impede my progress.

Cagers :rolleyes:

Maggy 01-06-2021 11:58

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Hah! My complaint about cyclists is that they damn well ride wherever they want irrespective of whether they are allowed to.They ignore designated cycleways/pavements and ride everywhere the local council have local laws that say no cycling. No one is safe on our seaside promenade despite foot high white painted signs on the promenade surface saying No Cycling.Law unto themselves.

Sephiroth 01-06-2021 13:02

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36081554)
Of of course, they'll find something else to tax on. Which will probably be where price per mile charging comes in...

As others have mentioned, the guvmin appear to be very keen for people to get 'on their bikes' can't see them introducing anything to dissuade it

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It would appear that you seem to believe you have divine right to pass cyclists ?

As i on a motorbike, can easily outpace & manoeuvre you in a car. I'd presume you would have no issue with me smashing your wing mirror off should you impede my progress.

Cagers :rolleyes:

What? Where did that invention come from? My remarks doe not concern motor bikers.

Of course I have the right to pass cyclists. I would never endanger them or remonstrate (other than curse under my breath).

Jaymoss 01-06-2021 13:06

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36081556)
Hah! My complaint about cyclists is that they damn well ride wherever they want irrespective of whether they are allowed to.They ignore designated cycleways/pavements and ride everywhere the local council have local laws that say no cycling. No one is safe on our seaside promenade despite foot high white painted signs on the promenade surface saying No Cycling.Law unto themselves.

could you please add the word "some" because you like a lot have fallen into the absolutes trap

Sephiroth 01-06-2021 13:14

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36081559)
could you please add the word "some" because you like a lot have fallen into the absolutes trap

We're only talking about the bad cyclists. From my observation they vastly outnumber the "good" cyclists.

I hasn't even started on the red-light busters, riding across pedestrian crossings, deliberately riding on the carriageway despite provided cycle lanes.

Total scourge (except the rare good ones).


Jaymoss 01-06-2021 13:39

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36081560)
We're only talking about the bad cyclists. From my observation they vastly outnumber the "good" cyclists.

I hasn't even started on the red-light busters, riding across pedestrian crossings, deliberately riding on the carriageway despite provided cycle lanes.

Total scourge (except the rare good ones).


you will only notice the bad cyclist the rest will pass by your radar. Can you ever remember turning to your partner and saying "hey that cyclist is riding responsibly" ?

My daughter nearly got run over by a car driver running a red light at a crossing the other day. Drivers are the scourge of the roads. See I did it then. Should not throw stones in glass houses. TBH I do not think I have ever been a passenger in a car where on the journey they have not gone over the speed limit or run a light what I would consider to late

Sephiroth 01-06-2021 14:02

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36081561)
you will only notice the bad cyclist the rest will pass by your radar. Can you ever remember turning to your partner and saying "hey that cyclist is riding responsibly" ?

My daughter nearly got run over by a car driver running a red light at a crossing the other day. Drivers are the scourge of the roads. See I did it then. Should not throw stones in glass houses. TBH I do not think I have ever been a passenger in a car where on the journey they have not gone over the speed limit or run a light what I would consider to late

Well, there's enough bad cyclists in my area for the distinction to be one only for discussion here.

The debate I've introduced here is the narrow (yet widespread) annoyance posed by two abreast cyclists and pelotons on narrow country roads. There is no personal injury involved here, just the annoyance of arrogant so and sos, out in force, on roads that enable people to travel from A to B in a timely manner - except when these inconsiderate cyclists cause a whole queue of motorists behind them

The bad car drivers have nothing to do with this - a totally different discussion.


TheDaddy 01-06-2021 14:29

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Middle or outside lane hoggers are annoying me at the moment, forcing people (me) to undertake just because they won't move

Russ 01-06-2021 14:31

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36081563)
Middle or outside lane hoggers are annoying me at the moment, forcing people (me) to undertake just because they won't move

Yeah and then THEY give you the evils as you pass them on the inside.

Jaymoss 01-06-2021 17:54

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36081563)
Middle or outside lane hoggers are annoying me at the moment, forcing people (me) to undertake just because they won't move

are they turning right or about to ? I was taught at school ( old cycling proficiency test ) to prepare with plenty of time before turning right and this means taking the outside lane or middle of the road in good time before the turn

heero_yuy 01-06-2021 17:56

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36081584)
are they turning right or about to ?

I've seen them drive for 2 miles in the outside lane at 50MPH (70 limit) because they want to turn right but are so afraid of doing 70 that they don't want to be "trapped" on the inside.

Maggy 01-06-2021 18:20

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36081560)
We're only talking about the bad cyclists. From my observation they vastly outnumber the "good" cyclists.

I hasn't even started on the red-light busters, riding across pedestrian crossings, deliberately riding on the carriageway despite provided cycle lanes.

Total scourge (except the rare good ones).


:tu:

Taf 01-06-2021 19:12

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I hope all the drivers here are aware of the new fine that appeared recently.

You have to leave 1.5m between you and a cyclist whilst you overtake them.

Failure to do so will result in a £100 fine and 3 points on your licence.

Dashcam and helmet cam footage will suffice for prosecution.

Carth 01-06-2021 19:18

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36081591)
I hope all the drivers here are aware of the new fine that appeared recently.

You have to leave 1.5m between you and a cyclist whilst you overtake them.

Failure to do so will result in a £100 fine and 3 points on your licence.

Dashcam and helmet cam footage will suffice for prosecution.


It might be manageable on a motorway, forget it on rural roads though :D

Sephiroth 01-06-2021 19:45

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36081591)
I hope all the drivers here are aware of the new fine that appeared recently.

You have to leave 1.5m between you and a cyclist whilst you overtake them.

Failure to do so will result in a £100 fine and 3 points on your licence.

Dashcam and helmet cam footage will suffice for prosecution.

That is by no means definite, Taf.

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q967.htm

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.... Therefore, because there isn't a specific offence of failing to give sufficient room to a cyclist when overtaking them, if it was alleged that a driver had done this, consideration would have to be given to the offences of careless driving contrary to section 3 the Road Traffic Act 1988 or dangerous driving contrary to section 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988.

TheDaddy 02-06-2021 12:34

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36081584)
are they turning right or about to ? I was taught at school ( old cycling proficiency test ) to prepare with plenty of time before turning right and this means taking the outside lane or middle of the road in good time before the turn

You don't tend to turn right on motorways, they're just dicks

mrmistoffelees 02-06-2021 13:35

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36081657)
You don't tend to turn right on motorways, they're just dicks

Dual Carriageways?

nashville 02-06-2021 13:43

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Really disgusted seeing face masks lying about the streets, Surely it is nit hard to put them in a bin,

TheDaddy 02-06-2021 14:25

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36081662)
Dual Carriageways?

I'm thinking particularly of the dicks on the M25, A13 and M11 that were particularly hoggy for mile after mile last Thursday and Friday, none of which were turning right although at several points I would have liked them to, straight into the crash barrier

Jaymoss 02-06-2021 16:26

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36081657)
You don't tend to turn right on motorways, they're just dicks

cyclists should never be on a motorway

TheDaddy 02-06-2021 20:34

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36081687)
cyclists should never be on a motorway

Hope you pay more attention when cycling, this is my moan not Sephiroth's although for the record I agree with him, mostly inconsiderate dicks who think the rules don't apply to them just like the hoggers

Jaymoss 02-06-2021 22:56

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36081712)
Hope you pay more attention when cycling, this is my moan not Sephiroth's although for the record I agree with him, mostly inconsiderate dicks who think the rules don't apply to them just like the hoggers

fairy snuff

nashville 03-06-2021 00:30

Re: Moans and Pet Hates part 8
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36081444)
I’d love to know why cyclists should pay a tax that hasn’t existed since the late 1930’s

Perhaps you mean they should pay VED? Which would be interesting as it’s engine size/emissions based…. Also VED goes straight to the general treasury and isn’t used directly toward the maintenance/upkeep of highways

Maybe never explained properly, but they should pay something as they could cause lots of accidents ,

Jaymoss 03-06-2021 10:47

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Originally Posted by nashville (Post 36081725)
Maybe never explained properly, but they should pay something as they could cause lots of accidents ,

Bad drivers cause a hell of a lot more accidents than bad cyclists but yeah maybe some sort of insurance but it should not be a lot imo

spiderplant 03-06-2021 11:43

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36081738)
Bad drivers cause a hell of a lot more accidents than bad cyclists but yeah maybe some sort of insurance but it should not be a lot imo

Many cyclists do have third party insurance. It's included in the membership of British Cycling and Cycling UK, in bike-specific insurance policies (mainly used to cover theft), and if taking part in any organised cycling event. It is very cheap because the risk is so low.

Maggy 03-06-2021 11:59

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I suggest that's enough about cyclists and drivers. Time to move on.

Jaymoss 03-06-2021 12:02

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36081744)
Many cyclists do have third party insurance. It's included in the membership of British Cycling and Cycling UK, in bike-specific insurance policies (mainly used to cover theft), and if taking part in any organised cycling event. It is very cheap because the risk is so low.

Yeah I thought it would be.

Whereas 131,220 casualties of all severities in the year ending June 2020 of which 1580 ended in death but its cyclist that are the scourge. Bare in mind 3 months of these figures the country was in lockdown

As I said before as a passenger I have seen a hell of a lot of bad driving. I am a bad driver I get distracted so I made the choice not to drive but I do cycle and I come across a lot of bad drivers doing that also

Sephiroth 03-06-2021 12:34

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Another pet hate of mine are people who smoke in public. Apart from the disgusting way most of them discard their butts, they stand in restaurant doorways so that the smoke blows in - and always to where I'm sitting.

Another another pet hate of mine are people, usually Lib-Dem Remainers, who peel oranges on the commuting train. That smell pervades the carriage for the duration of the journey.

And that damn, poxy, Peloton advert (mentioned in the Ads thread.

Jaymoss 03-06-2021 12:44

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36081753)
Another pet hate of mine are people who smoke in public. Apart from the disgusting way most of them discard their butts, they stand in restaurant doorways so that the smoke blows in - and always to where I'm sitting.

Another another pet hate of mine are people, usually Lib-Dem Remainers, who peel oranges on the commuting train. That smell pervades the carriage for the duration of the journey.

And that damn, poxy, Peloton advert (mentioned in the Ads thread.

With you on the smoking one. I stopped smoking 30 years ago after being quite a heavy smoker and I detest the smell now

Carth 03-06-2021 12:51

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don't worry, we're a dying breed . . . apparently

Hugh 03-06-2021 13:48

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36081753)
Another pet hate of mine are people who smoke in public. Apart from the disgusting way most of them discard their butts, they stand in restaurant doorways so that the smoke blows in - and always to where I'm sitting.

Another another pet hate of mine are people, usually Lib-Dem Remainers, who peel oranges on the commuting train. That smell pervades the carriage for the duration of the journey.

And that damn, poxy, Peloton advert (mentioned in the Ads thread.

:confused:

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36081756)
don't worry, we're a dying breed . . . apparently

Medical evidence does point that way…:(

Sephiroth 03-06-2021 14:30

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36081764)
:confused:

:PP::PP:

heero_yuy 03-06-2021 17:33

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Dreadful young women in the redtops and so called "reality" TV with pumped up lips, pumped up boobs and pumped up backsides. Don't they realise how ridiculous they look?

Carth 03-06-2021 18:05

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36081795)
Dreadful young women in the redtops and so called "reality" TV with pumped up lips, pumped up boobs and pumped up backsides. Don't they realise how ridiculous they look?

But they look in the mirror and think they're beautiful :romance:

Has anyone else noticed the alarming drop in quality of mirrors lately? :D:D

heero_yuy 03-06-2021 18:07

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36081801)
But they look in the mirror and think they're beautiful :romance:

Has anyone else noticed the alarming drop in quality of mirrors lately? :D:D

Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is the most pumped up of all? :D

Taf 03-06-2021 19:45

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The Vale of Glamorgan council charged a fixed fee of £497.50 for THREE YEARS regardless of how many chairs and tables cafés had outside.

From July, ANNUAL licences will cost from £150 for one or two tables with up to eight chairs, to £750 for 11 tables or more with 40 chairs.

The council says the move is to clear pavements for the old and blind.

But if every café and restaurant pays, the pavements will still be full of chairs and tables!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57350370

The great rush to charge us more to recoup pandemic losses has started.

GrimUpNorth 04-06-2021 09:16

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36081828)
The Vale of Glamorgan council charged a fixed fee of £497.50 for THREE YEARS regardless of how many chairs and tables cafés had outside.

From July, ANNUAL licences will cost from £150 for one or two tables with up to eight chairs, to £750 for 11 tables or more with 40 chairs.

The council says the move is to clear pavements for the old and blind.

But if every café and restaurant pays, the pavements will still be full of chairs and tables!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57350370

The great rush to charge us more to recoup pandemic losses has started.

Many councils have found themselves in the financial doodah after the last 12 months. They've seen a dramatic drop in income and at the same time a dramatic rise in the demand for services. They're expected to have a balanced budget - deficits are not allowed. Some of the larger ones have reserves to draw down but many of the smaller one don't.

The Government may come good on the promise to reimburse local councils for the additional expenditure they've experienced but the last I heard for Leeds City Council they are still £10's millions short and don't seem to be holding out much hope of the money ever arriving and as such have had to base this year's budget on what they know they've got not what they'd like to have. Some of the additional work undertaken has been quite impressive all of which has been done over and above what was expected when the last year's budget was planned in late 2019 and early 2020.

I'm not defending Vale Of Glamorgan, but I'm sure they've looked long and hard at ways to increase income. It's a shame they tried to spin the line about keeping pavements clear instead of being honest about it being an income generator!

Sephiroth 07-06-2021 10:34

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Street table licence money is mere spittle. The councils know that so I doubt it’s there to lessen budget deficits.

GrimUpNorth 07-06-2021 10:51

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36082108)
Street table licence money is mere spittle. The councils know that so I doubt it’s there to lessen budget deficits.

Maybe so, but having been involved in various meetings regarding budget pressures I know if we can save the odd £500 here and there the council will take it. It's even to the stage where I am that they'd snatch your hand off if you asked to reduce your hours by only an hour a week :shocked:. Things are pretty bad in local government at the moment and all those small amounts can make a difference.

tweetiepooh 08-06-2021 09:29

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Winchester council started charging for parking in evening and on Sunday/Bank holidays to pay for work done during CV. All the things that no-one wanted or wants and most now want reversed.
They also claim it's to stop traffic coming in to town and to use park and ride, fair enough but the biggest traffic issue is through traffic and deliveries made on the street side not the back. But no-one really want the alternative of tearing up the countryside for a bypass ("you've got to build by-passes" - HHGTTG).

ThunderPants73 18-06-2021 15:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36081560)
We're only talking about the bad cyclists. From my observation they vastly outnumber the "good" cyclists.

I hasn't even started on the red-light busters, riding across pedestrian crossings, deliberately riding on the carriageway despite provided cycle lanes.

Total scourge (except the rare good ones).


I'm one of the 'rare' good ones; I obey lights, I don't ride across pedestrian crossings and the only time I ride on the carriageway despite the road having a cycle lane is when motorists use that cycle lane as a carpark, many times despite having a drive.

Halcyon 25-06-2021 14:53

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When directors are sending out an e-mail to all staff to thank them for all their hard work over the past year and they thank everyone and totally forget about the I.T. department.


Yes, we are the ones who make sure all your data is backed up, that your internet connection is stable, the ones who crawl through ceilings to trace cables, the ones who setup your powerpoint and AV systems so it all works perfectly on the big night.


But yeah, just forget about us completly.

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Learner drivers........ In fact no, I should say Driving Instructors.


Yes, it's important that your learner does not speed on the roads but it is also important to tell them to put their foot down. Doing 15mph in a 50mph zone is just wrong!

Hom3r 25-06-2021 19:46

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After getting my car washed yesterday, today I popped to my local Sainsbury's petrol station to check my tyres, but no they'e decided to make you pay for it.


So now no place in my town does it for free, so now to get a car pump and guage.

raging bull 26-06-2021 07:31

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Most garages charge 20p for a timed period, contibutes to the cost of maintaining the pressure system.

Carth 26-06-2021 08:46

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My 'local' used to be 20p for air, then it went up to 50p, and now it's £1.

I think the machine now just sits quietly rusting in the corner :erm:

papa smurf 26-06-2021 11:30

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36084398)
My 'local' used to be 20p for air, then it went up to 50p, and now it's £1.

I think the machine now just sits quietly rusting in the corner :erm:

i use my trusty foot pump once per week just to check the tyres, hardly ever need pumping.

Sephiroth 26-06-2021 11:43

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I wait till the low tyre pressure warning comes up on the car dashboard.
The battery charger thingy then pumps the tyr(s).

papa smurf 26-06-2021 12:45

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36084418)
I wait till the low tyre pressure warning comes up on the car dashboard.
The battery charger thingy then pumps the tyr(s).

I have the same facility on my car ,but i like to check it myself

Sephiroth 26-06-2021 13:35

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36084424)
I have the same facility on my car ,but i like to check it myself

Can't be bothered - too much bending down.

Russ 26-06-2021 13:37

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Parental alienation.

Carth 07-07-2021 15:33

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Maybe it's a good idea that Microsoft are now releasing a newer version of Windows as it seems the version used by DVLA has developed Dementia :rolleyes:

After recently PX'ing my car for a newer one, I subsequently received a cheque from DVLA for the tax refund owed.

A week later I received another letter from DVLA informing me that their records have now been updated and I am no longer the registered keeper of the vehicle I no longer own.

Today I receive a letter from DVLA informing me that the car tax is due on the vehicle I no longer own or are the registered keeper of.

Computers, running the world in a better and more efficient way :scratch: :rofl:

Jaymoss 07-07-2021 15:42

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36085561)
Maybe it's a good idea that Microsoft are now releasing a newer version of Windows as it seems the version used by DVLA has developed Dementia :rolleyes:

After recently PX'ing my car for a newer one, I subsequently received a cheque from DVLA for the tax refund owed.

A week later I received another letter from DVLA informing me that their records have now been updated and I am no longer the registered keeper of the vehicle I no longer own.

Today I receive a letter from DVLA informing me that the car tax is due on the vehicle I no longer own or are the registered keeper of.

Computers, running the world in a better and more efficient way :scratch: :rofl:

It is not the computer it is the program written to deal with the data and or the database. Written by humans and therefore open to error

Carth 07-07-2021 15:50

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36085563)
It is not the computer it is the program written to deal with the data and or the database. Written by humans and therefore open to error


Yes Yes we know all that, so you're suggesting that the computers are fine yet the humans working at DVLA are useless and incompetent?

One hopes those (govt. employees) dealing with Covid or Climate change have a better grasp of programming and/or dealing with data then ;)

Jaymoss 07-07-2021 16:06

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36085565)
Yes Yes we know all that, so you're suggesting that the computers are fine yet the humans working at DVLA are useless and incompetent?

One hopes those (govt. employees) dealing with Covid or Climate change have a better grasp of programming and/or dealing with data then ;)

course they don't hehe

heero_yuy 07-07-2021 16:53

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GIGO :D

Carth 07-07-2021 18:13

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36085569)
GIGO :D

Quite possibly the greatest threat we've ever faced :D

Russ 07-07-2021 19:03

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36085565)
Yes Yes we know all that, so you're suggesting that the computers are fine yet the humans working at DVLA are useless and incompetent?

Having worked there for a while a few years back I can confirm that assessment is correct. I started on the Monday and by the Thursday I'd realised what an awful place to work it was, and begged my old employer to take me back. 6 weeks later I was back at my old desk :D

GrimUpNorth 10-07-2021 22:55

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Fitting a new kitchen at my sister-in-law's, if it can go wrong it is doing! Today's nightmare, doing the sink unit and turned the water off so I could get rid of all the old nasty plumbing. One thing led to another and it was getting late so decided to do a temporary job to get the cold water running for toilet, electric shower etc and the stopcock packs in - will turn no problem but no water. She's got plenty of bottled water to see her through to tomorrow but only one flush of the toilet :shocked:. Will nip to Go Outdoors in the morning to get some water carriers and hope the plumber can come tomorrow (and the isolator in the road works ok).

heero_yuy 22-07-2021 08:06

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MSM running stories and pictures of (some) shortages in the supermarkets. Nothing like that stupidity to start the panic buying again.:rolleyes:

Mr K 22-07-2021 08:14

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36087188)
MSM running stories and pictures of (some) shortages in the supermarkets. Nothing like that stupidity to start the panic buying again.:rolleyes:

Wonder where all the foreign HGV drivers went? Toilet roll panic again, what fun....

Hom3r 22-07-2021 12:50

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I did my weekly Tesco shop, other than the odd empty space shelves seemed stocked

Mr K 22-07-2021 20:47

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36087228)
I did my weekly Tesco shop, other than the odd empty space shelves seemed stocked

There was a definite shortage of ice cream/lollies in Morrisons but think it was more to do with climate change than Covid...

heero_yuy 23-07-2021 17:33

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My knee is killing me: It's a flare-up of an old skiing injury that comes to re-visit me every now and then. :(

Last time was a couple of years ago, then Wednesday: Bang, agony when I bend it or straighten up.

Usually sorts itself out after a few days. Good thing I have an adequate supply of pain killers and Ibuprofen gel.

Mr K 23-07-2021 20:42

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36087329)
My knee is killing me: It's a flare-up of an old skiing injury that comes to re-visit me every now and then. :(

Last time was a couple of years ago, then Wednesday: Bang, agony when I bend it or straighten up.

Usually sorts itself out after a few days. Good thing I have an adequate supply of pain killers and Ibuprofen gel.

Good luck with that. I had knee problems. Lost some weight , stopped trying mid life crisis jogging , and it was cured, for now anyway..
(Don't try "taking the knee' whatever you do.... ;) )

heero_yuy 24-07-2021 10:43

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36087339)
Good luck with that. I had knee problems. Lost some weight , stopped trying mid life crisis jogging , and it was cured, for now anyway..
(Don't try "taking the knee' whatever you do.... ;) )

Thanks. Safe to say I won't be genuflecting anytime soon.

Carth 24-07-2021 11:03

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36087329)
My knee is killing me: It's a flare-up of an old skiing injury that comes to re-visit me every now and then. :(

Last time was a couple of years ago, then Wednesday: Bang, agony when I bend it or straighten up.

Usually sorts itself out after a few days. Good thing I have an adequate supply of pain killers and Ibuprofen gel.

Similar . . nasty knee injury from a football incident in my late teens. Plagued me on & off since then but usually cleared up after a week.

Now I'm much older, arthritis has been added to the 'wear & tear' and pain/swelling is becoming something to live with. Trying to lose weight by eating 'better & less', but daily exercise is limited due to the knee issue itself and arthritis in the lower back.

Hoping that swimming may help if/when that becomes a reality.

TheDaddy 29-07-2021 19:17

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Just off to a hotel next to the hospital, major surgery tomorrow at 12:30, don't mind saying I have a real phobia about the procedure but with luck this time tomorrow I'll be well on the way to being fixed up.

Julian 29-07-2021 19:37

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Hope everything goes well TD and it’s a success.

joglynne 29-07-2021 19:56

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36087875)
Just off to a hotel next to the hospital, major surgery tomorrow at 12:30, don't mind saying I have a real phobia about the procedure but with luck this time tomorrow I'll be well on the way to being fixed up.

I hope everything goes well Daddy.I will be thinking of you and keeping my fingers crossed for a good outcome and fast recovery.

Jo <<big hugs>>

Carth 29-07-2021 20:06

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Hope all goes well, you'll be back in no time. ;)

Mr K 29-07-2021 20:44

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36087875)
Just off to a hotel next to the hospital, major surgery tomorrow at 12:30, don't mind saying I have a real phobia about the procedure but with luck this time tomorrow I'll be well on the way to being fixed up.

All the best Mr D, tomorrow things get better :)

Hugh 29-07-2021 22:45

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36087875)
Just off to a hotel next to the hospital, major surgery tomorrow at 12:30, don't mind saying I have a real phobia about the procedure but with luck this time tomorrow I'll be well on the way to being fixed up.

Good luck

heero_yuy 30-07-2021 07:14

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36087875)
Just off to a hotel next to the hospital, major surgery tomorrow at 12:30, don't mind saying I have a real phobia about the procedure but with luck this time tomorrow I'll be well on the way to being fixed up.

Good luck. Hope it all goes well.

Tinky 30-07-2021 10:00

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36087875)
Just off to a hotel next to the hospital, major surgery tomorrow at 12:30, don't mind saying I have a real phobia about the procedure but with luck this time tomorrow I'll be well on the way to being fixed up.


I have no doubt you will be 'fixed' and up and about before you know it Daddy, good luck. :hugs:

tweetiepooh 30-07-2021 10:55

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My wife is going to have gallbladder removed Monday. She gets Covid test today and after that the whole house has to "isolate". My son has gone to stay with friends until Monday.
It's not the op, it's the isolation bit. We can't even go out for a walk in the fields. Wife wants the op, she isn't in any pain which is unusual so doesn't feel need for it but the medics want it dealt with.

Tinky 30-07-2021 11:42

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36087948)
My wife is going to have gallbladder removed Monday. She gets Covid test today and after that the whole house has to "isolate". My son has gone to stay with friends until Monday.
It's not the op, it's the isolation bit. We can't even go out for a walk in the fields. Wife wants the op, she isn't in any pain which is unusual so doesn't feel need for it but the medics want it dealt with.


Yes the isolation bit would get me too tweetiepooh, but best to get it over with, hopefully she won't be in hospital for very long. Then you can get her home and spoil her rotten!

TheDaddy 30-07-2021 18:58

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36087875)
Just off to a hotel next to the hospital, major surgery tomorrow at 12:30, don't mind saying I have a real phobia about the procedure but with luck this time tomorrow I'll be well on the way to being fixed up.

Thanks guys, I appreciate it, means a lot.

It didn't go at all but the surgeons all think it's a result. In November 2019 I had a cataract removed, it was a very difficult procedure because of where it was placed. In March everything looked a bit wobbly so I went to my optician who happens to be one of the best around luckily, he said I'd lost some jelly in my eye so six weeks later I went back and he said the lens had become detached, he referred me for more checks, last Thursday I went to a local clinic who referred me to a local hospital, they called the next day and asked me to come in, they then proceeded to scare the crap out of me by saying I needed to turn up at Moorfields the next morning as my macular is now "off", I spent from that day to this sleeping bolt upright and not really doing much until today when I was all set for surgery even having the silly socks on and cannula in my arm, saw the anesthetist who completed his checks and then saw the surgeon who asked me to go with him, turns out my macular is on and they think the best thing to do is monitor it as my body is keeping the fluid in my eye from the tear to a minimum and the incredibly evasive surgery might not have been found it, I'd have to had the lens removed and oil put in my eye till it formed a bubble then wait six weeks to be reopened up and a new lens attached whereas they seem to think I can live with it and the surgery isn't necessary at this time and may never be

Apologies for the length of post and the lack of full stops

Hugh 30-07-2021 19:34

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Phew!

Glad it worked out.

joglynne 30-07-2021 20:01

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WOW.Daddy!!! Guess it really was a fingers crossed situation.

Our bodies are incredible and with luck you really will avoid having surgery. <<<hugs>>>

Tinky 31-07-2021 08:11

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Gosh that was a long way round for a short cut Daddy, great that you can live with it and hopefully without the need for surgery. :)

Russ 31-07-2021 12:52

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Just arrived at a Travelodge in Bradford to take my eldest to her university open day.

Official check-in time is 3pm, I got there at half 12. I asked if the room was ready, they confirmed it was. So, cleaned, sheets changed, everything ready.

Can I check in now? Yes, if I pay a £10 “early check in fee”. But why?? If the room hadn’t been cleaned and it meant getting someone in there right now to get it ready then yeah I’d understand that.

But the room is ready, just as it will be at 3pm. I can’t stand unjustifiable charges.

Chris 31-07-2021 16:12

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I guess you’re using more of the hotel’s resources (heat, light, water) if you’re there longer, but mostly they’re just at it.

I’m just down the road from you right now, heading for a wedding in Halifax :D

Russ 31-07-2021 16:20

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Ah man I wish I’d known!

tweetiepooh 02-08-2021 10:39

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As you read this my wife should be in theatre for afore mentioned gallbladder removal.


My son stayed with friends and was given some money to eat out as they don't use salt and mostly eat veggie and he likes some of the local eateries. We was supposed to have enough for a couple of groceries but forgot they had a roast on Sunday and still ate out. (Typical for him!). He should call me to pick him up but again will he remember - has he actually woken up yet?

spiderplant 02-08-2021 11:47

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36088230)
As you read this my wife should be in theatre for afore mentioned gallbladder removal.

Depends when we read it ;). When I had mine removed, I was "out" for less than an hour, so it's pretty quick.

Best thing I've ever done, by the way. I had 20 years of random chest pains and gastric troubles, and it fixed them all. Hope it goes well for Mrs Pooh.

tweetiepooh 02-08-2021 12:07

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Thanks spiderplant. (BTW in our house and archery club all spiders are named Boris).


She has had no pain but some discomfort occasionally. (She had more problems when one of the investigations nicked something needing her to go in for transfusions.) They took out a lot of "sand" rather than stones so it did need doing.


Others we know have also said lives better since done but some were in a lot of pain beforehand.

mrmistoffelees 02-08-2021 12:20

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36088244)
Thanks spiderplant. (BTW in our house and archery club all spiders are named Boris).


She has had no pain but some discomfort occasionally. (She had more problems when one of the investigations nicked something needing her to go in for transfusions.) They took out a lot of "sand" rather than stones so it did need doing.


Others we know have also said lives better since done but some were in a lot of pain beforehand.

I had my gallbladder removed approx three years ago, i can attest that the pain before hand was excruciating.

My wife found me early on a monday morning on the living room floor curled up in the foetal position crying in pain. After a call to NHS direct (they wanted to send an ambulance but my wife drove me to JCUH) not even morphine could shift the pain (took that and something else delivered by suppository to get the pain under control.) I then had a weeks stay in hospital of which the first 48hrs nil by mouth. so they could keep an eye on me.

I had my op about four months later, lost weight so it could be done by keyhole, only issue was i woke up in recovery i immediately tried to get up and fell on the floor. some toast and a cup of tea and couple of hours later i was on my way home.

The pain from a gallstone is something else... Ouch

Carth 02-08-2021 15:31

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Mine was a nightmare.
After a few years of intermittent pain that felt like horrible indigestion/heartburn it suddenly got much worse. Off to the doctors, then hospital, where they eventually informed me it was a gallstone . . . that they were wary of going in for it due to it being so close to the liver.

Carted off to a bigger hospital, where they took a week to fit a stent. On the evening before I was due to be discharged I collapsed in the toilet, big panic situation followed by examination where they discovered that, when fitting the stent, they'd caught a blood vessel and I was bleeding internally. They put a clip on that and kept me in a further week for observation, filling me up with blood and antibiotics.

Eventually allowed home a few days later and all was well for a week, when I suddenly developed excruciating pain in the lower right abdomen. Doctors to Hospital again, scans done but they couldn't find the problem. Carted off back to the larger hospital (again) where they pumped me full of painkillers etc and decided to 'go in' for a look.
I couldn't lay on the operating bed in the right position, the agony was intense. The surgeon decided something was very wrong and sent me for further scans, and they found my gallbladder had ruptured because the stent had moved, causing pressure build up.
So there I am in a hospital bed for another week, tubes putting painkiller and antibiotics in, tubes draining all the bad stuff out, and another stent fitted.

Allowed home but still with drain tubes fitted and check ups by district nurse . . . exciting stuff. A week later called back in to have the drains removed and told would be contacted for the op to remove the gallbladder.

About 6 weeks later they called me in for the op, told me it could be open surgery due to the complications. I woke up later with more tubes running in & out and learnt it was 2 hours of keyhole surgery . . and yet another stent in there.

Thankfully all went well after that, apart from a 'wasted' trip to have the stent removed which, like the others, had decided to bugger off to places unknown without their help.

I must state that I appear to be one of the unlucky 1% (probably) that have complications (the stone being very close to the liver, stent moving etc), and everyone else I've spoken to say they were in & out in a day or two . . . 'sigh'

With luck like that I don't do the lottery anymore ;)

tweetiepooh 03-08-2021 10:05

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Wife home same day - not allowed to do heavy lifting but want her to move around and slowly (2 weeks or so) get back to normal. Her's was a "text book" keyhole op.
The lady in just before her had much more difficulty and was possibly looking at needing a catheter. (I hate having to use intermittent catheters at the moment but far better than alternatives.)
During investigations they nicked a blood vessel leading to a few days in hospital for transfusions, this time they are possibly concerned about a stone that may have escaped but she was never in any pain from them.


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She's left a spreadsheet of jobs for our kids to do and which meals I'm cooking. Yesterday they made wontons and a broth to have them with and fresh noodles and daughter baked some pastries. All very nice. Daughter made our bed with cushions and teddy holding wife's nighty. Proud of both of them.

Carth 03-08-2021 14:33

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Our postman postwoman postperson 'sigh' start again.

A few minutes ago, our 'written correspondence delivery executive' has deposited seven (7) items through our letterbox, all seven (7) of which were immediately transferred to the bin.

The seven (7) items in question had probably been designed, formatted and printed using computers. They were either then sorted into envelopes, or folded in such a way to show off their super glossy deals.
Delivery of aforementioned items to a mail sorting office would probably have been done using a van, or possibly a lorry, but definitely not by a secretary on her/his lunch break.
As four (4) of the seven (7) items were not from local sources, one must assume some mode of transport was required to get these four (4) items to a local mail delivery office, where they would have been sorted according to postcodes and placed in vans to be distributed to local addresses.

Quite a decent waste of resources, manpower and energy when you think about it, but thankfully we're all encouraged to buy and use energy efficient light bulbs to make up for it :rolleyes:


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