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All have caused an issued. All have had fans get involved. Most recently Evertons badge.

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The fans should probably have a say although, let's face it, that's being quite naive in the face of the business these clubs are. I don't know about all the instances of the above teams apart from Arsenal whose lack of fans had caused them to move from Woolwich causing the name change, and that was not that long after they were formed. Changing it now to 'London Arsenal' or something would cause more aggro.

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decent read...

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I would be more sympathetic if the owner wanted to change the name completely and take away "Hull". Hes basically putting their nickname into the club name. Is it really that bad? The owners have spent money and got them into the premier league and looks like they will be staying there, things could be a lot worse for the fans, just look at some of the other owners of clubs in England.

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Exactly, look at Portsmouth and what happened to them after Mandaric left the club.

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They're not the owners of a club they're it's custodians, it was there before he was born and it'll be there after he's gone, you don't toss away hundreds of years of history just because you've had an argument with the council imo.

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Kamikaze defending from Spurs.

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Southampton & England striker out for six months.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26928782

Bad news for CF Southampton fans.

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Sherwood was always a stop gap for Spurs. I think the Gall situation is all sorted, unless something drastic happens.

Sherwood is NOT management material, he needs more experience under his belt. It wouldn't surprise me if Levy, and remember one thing joe Louis who says who goes. He runs the club and tells Levy what to do. That Sherwood will work with Gaal for next season.

As for Wenger, he has had his day at Arsenal. They need new blood.

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game over :bigcry:

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One or two offsides against Sunderland looked very iffy.:(

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just hope all the spineless useless players just leave pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeee

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Feel for mate, not good at all.:(

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Could the unthinkable happen, and Arsenal join United in no European football next season (should they not win the FA Cup)? Would finishing 6th and winning the Cup be enough to appease Arsenal fans? Are Sunderland relegated, or can they perform a miracle escape?

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no chance at all of us staying up

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The only thing which will appease me is a change of manager. Klopp, Simeone, someone fresh, capable and up for it.

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You still have 7 games left Dave so all is not lost.

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I hear Arsenal medics are pretty bored, Micah may want to consider giving them company.

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l think he might choose another club bud other then Arsenal.;)

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Liverpool?

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Dortmund are 2 - 0 up at HT!

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RM have been poor. Dortmund are making a game of it after RMs peno miss. Ronaldos on the bench...

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Possibly.:)

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i would have thought Den would be wearing his cheer leading outfit now, hoping Chelsea do it.

Oh, that is scary picture :D

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Apparently its over on facebook, that Gaal will be confirmed as the new manager of Spurs, dont know for certain. As l dont have facebook.

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l am hoping they get through old boy but alas there's no cheer leading outfit for you to get excited about.:D

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May be. But then Sagna is likely to leave Arsenal and Richards is a well known Arsenal fan ;)

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As Darth Sidious often said "It inevitable"

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It very much depends if Arsenal either qualify for the CL or the EL.;)

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I cannot see anything but it would make sense getting it all wrapped up now. Allowing it to drag out until the summer coudl leave Tottenham empty handed.

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I doubt it. I would have said money would play the deciding factor but hes reportedly turned down a nice deal at Man City so favorable club seems the obvious one.

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I dont have facebook, but l have had several phone calls saying that, try twitter. I dont have that either

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There is nothing Arthur but again yesterdays 'leak' and now this if true... its good planning ahead from Tottenham.

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Arsenals FA Cup shirt this weekend...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/04/42.jpg
https://twitter.com/TheGoonerette/status/453628601829564416

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Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

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Unlucky Dortmund. Great game.

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They face Bayern Munich this weekend. its on at the same time as Arsenals FA Cup tie though :(

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One English club through to the SF and lets hope it is two tomorrow.

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Meh dead rubber anyway.

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Nah won't be doing that.

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lol @ Cavanis miss

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Wigan lost 1-0 against Millwall tonight. stats from the game...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26829879

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I heard they rested a bunch of players however.

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Probably. Enjoy your day out.

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Come on United. Do the Germans. I feel dirty now.

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I predict a German bloodbath. Really hope I'm wrong...

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Come on Atletico ;)

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+1

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Bayern not as good as they think they are.

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I wasn't that impressed with bayern against Man city.

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For all Bayerns possession, they've done nothing to scare United. And for all their domination of the Bundesliga, i think they were far more exciting to watch last year, and still walked it. I wonder what Jupp Heynckes feels like.

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To me the gap between the top 10 sides in Europe ain't that great.

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Wow.:cleader::cleader:

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That didn't last long.

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lol..typical...1st 5 minutes after scoring..you need to be careful..1-1

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How the hell did that happen?

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Criminal by MU.

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Ah there we go.

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Wayne's taken a bung, must have.

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Still advantage United now. If they score one more Munich need to score two.

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Well, ok. If United score one then they go though.

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Poor defending by MU again.:(

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I'm falling in love with this Atletico side.

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Barcelona looking for a new manager if they don't win La Liga?

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The end of a era is nigh.

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:clap:

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He wasn't fit, shouldn't have played.

We did better than i thought, if only we concentrated properly after scoring.

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Does anyone know if Courtois can play if Atletico draw Chelsea ?

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Apparently he can, good news for Atletico

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Thanks thenry

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No problem. I'm torn between wanting RM or AM winning the CL.

Atletico Madrid
Bayern Munich
Chelsea
Real Madrid

exciting set for the draw whatever way it ties up

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Yeah, he looked like he was stuck in 2nd gear. That's a big gamble when you know you need everyone at their best as a minimum. You did really well until you scored and upset them, then they upped it and it was game over. I'll take anyone but Atlético Madrid in the semi. They're red hot!

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I suspect they may be looking already

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l would rather have Chelsea face Bayern or Real as AM look the form team currently.

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He can play providing madrid pay nearly three million per leg to chelsea apparently

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2014/04/10/champions/1397084247_449276.html

article is in spanish sadly

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2.5m£ a game. if they make it to the final they would get a minimum extra £1.6m£ runners-up or 4.6m£ as winners prize money

http://www.tsmplug.com/richlist/uefa...-distribution/

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...04/4.jpg:large

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Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho fined and warned over improper conduct.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26970487

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It's Jose Mourinho's destiny to win the champions league with Chelsea on his return.

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interesting figures here for all accounts PL 12/13

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble

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shame hes going to miss next weeks Copa Del Rey final

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interesting piece not just about Arsenal...

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...errati-arsenal

those names going outbound at Arsenal is pretty much a step forward but as for replacements names... some of those are step backwards again. i'm not a big fan of Verratti.

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This is stupid, as if he can't afford it

"
Chelsea fans are to start a collection to pay the £8,000 fine handed to manager Jose Mourinho by the Football Association for improper conduct in his side's recent defeat to Aston Villa.

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Veratti was described as a striker heading for arsenal despite not scoring a single goal in forty seven appearances in some rag the other day, the standard of sports journalism is diabolical. I rate mandukich highly and draxler although not highly enough to spell their names correctly obviously.

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Yes getting Verrati would certainly be a backward step.

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They will say its a Wenger type of signing :sleep: Can't blame them to be honest, ending up with a Veratti type after flirting with top qaulity is the norm.

I've only seen Morata play out of the 3 young strikers. Dortmund want him.

Alvaro Morata
Josip Drmic
Sardar Azmoun

Drmic is being touted as something special.

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UEFA taking a stand on the issue of loanee players playing against their owning clubs:

http://www.uefa.org/about-uefa/admin...d=2088774.html

So Thibaut Courtois can play and any contract that says he cannot play against Chelsea is 'null, void and unenforceable'.

Good.

It's a shame it won't happen in the Premier League but for some reason Wenger was attacked for expressing the exact same sentiments that are now being applauded!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...arsene-3395418

Although that's partly because the media decided Wenger's comments were boring so instead pretended he said something else....

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I just think it should be left to the clubs to agree that players can or can't play each other. I think it was Lua Lua scoring on loan for Pompey against his parent club Newcastle which brought about the current rule. Regarding Courtois, I read that Chelsea and Atletico Madrid agreed a lower loan fee for him, but who suggested the fee for playing against us I'm not sure. I think he should play, he's played against us before. In the end I imagine that if he goes on loan their next year, they'll end up paying a lot more than this year to compensate. If he doesn't sign a contract extension he'll not go out on loan anyway.

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I think either you can players from playing against their own clubs in cups and banning loans within the league or you let them play against the club. When the players is especially good then all your league rivals have to play against that player but you don't.

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I agree with UEFA on the violation of influencing who and when a loanee can play to a certain degree, I do think the can't play against parent club clause should stand if they want it in the contract terms.

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Champions League semi-finals:

Real Madrid v Bayern Munich

Atletico Madrid v Chelsea

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/26435161

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Ah look at that :D I would have prefered Atletico draw Bayern but hey ho still a possibity that it'll be an all Madrid Final.

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:shocked: The Premier League have swapped the days the Sky games between Chelsea v Sunderland and Hull v Arsenal are on. Chelsea v Sunderland now Saturday 19th April at 17.30 and Hull City v Arsenal now Sunday 20th April at 14.05. Both still live but there's bound to be loads of fans that have already booked travel in advance for a cheaper deal. They said they would do this but I never believed them as it's not been done over here before. It's about time though. I think they need to consider the possibility of Friday night games in the future as well. It happens all over Europe apart from here.

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I can blame them, verratti isn't a striker, although perhaps arsene will convert him like he was going to do with draxler, why they can't just sign a ready made of the peg goalscorer is beyond me.

I heard mr Tann saying the other day that he thought team details had been leaked and assumed it was just the rantings of a mad man barking at the moon but now we gear someones been sacked and another suspended over it.

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I don't understand why it's about time? This just screws over the fans. They need to give more than 8 days notice!

I agree on Friday Night games though.

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Any one of these sides given the luck could win the trophy and lets hope that Chelsea have that luck but if not l hope one of the Madrid sides win it.

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I just mean it's about time they moved games that involve clubs playing in Europe. We're used to playing Saturday then Tuesday and Sunday then Wednesday, but playing on a Friday just gives the teams an extra day to recover. I'd even go for games on a Thursday or Friday the week before as long as nobodies due to play that week. We just need a bit of flexibility when it comes to our fixture lists and European games. PSG played on the Friday before their home leg on the Wednesday and others have done the same this season as well. 8 days notice is a joke as well. That's how they treat the fan when TV has picked the games though. As I said, a lot of travel costs will have changed dramatically as well. Shafted.

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Not really if the norm is for Wenger to be able to convert players. The journos may see the guy as a support striker type and instead of putting him down as an AM they put him down as a striker. That said they may just be trying to stir up a bit of crap. Any Arsenal fan reading Verratti as Arsenals next striker will blow their top. Can you find a link to the piece? I'm intrigued now.
I don't know why he doesn't sign the required players.

Hardly surprising considering the dysfunctional state it was in at one point not soo long ago. Still person(s) that done that if found guilty are ****. How that would help the cause from whatever stand point apart from pure hate for the club is beyond me.

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The guardian and mirror have changed their stories so he's a midfielder now but they couldn't erase all traces of their incompetence

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They got their information from the fraud John Cross.

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Talking of The Guardian they have predicted this as tomorrows starting XIs

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/04/40.jpg
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...-match-preview

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Can anyone tell me what the difference is between courtois predicament and mascerano's all those years ago that got the hammers a thirty million pound fine, the only difference I can see is that Chelsea have direct influence over a player to stop him playing against them, worse imo than mascerano and tevez.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...united-3402770

I don't know whether there's truth in this or it's a publicity stunt by United to light a fire under Moyes but if LVG did take over I'd have a bit more confidence in his abilities. He's had success at the top with big teams and is also a fan of the United's "slow start" to the season as opposed to Moyes' "slow start, middle and end" tactic. He might even get another good season out of RVP.

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Pep for United! give the bloke something to do that's not walking into a ready made super-club. Then we can call him Andre Villas-Guardiola

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I think if SAF had left a younger squad with possibly a few big names being brought in then Pep may well have taken over instead of Moyes.

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Because Mascherano was not owned solely by the club, he was owned in part by a third party. Chelsea loaned Courtois out because he was never going to get Cech out of the number 1 spot. Hence why they are now worried about him playing against them in Europe. Personally, if it is like the Lua Lua situation a while ago (where Newcastle failed to put a clause in saying he could not play against them, he did and scored the winning goal) then Chelsea have no right to demand money for Courtois to play against them. They messed the loan agreement up, so they must pay the consequences.

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That would go against the constant diatribe that Man Utd supporters use, about being a club that gave managers a chance. Oh..yes..that is right..more BS :D

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But then if they all agreed to the supposed clause in his loan contract, they have every right to what was agreed. If the boot had been on the other foot, and it was chelsea that released info from an agreed contract, they'd be getting slated by everyone. Whereas they didn't release it, the Atletico bloke did, and they are getting slated by everyone. He was always going to play if the situation arose, and as I posted yesterday if there's any future deal for Costa to Chelsea, or for Courtois going back there on loan, it'll all sort itself out no matter what the UEFA rules are. Neither of the clubs are going to fall out over it as they both want things from each other

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That would be great for Man Utd.

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I want to know how UEFAs new ruling voids the agreement taken place way before this new rule was put in place whereas Barca are going to be allowed to complete transfers done, well partly signed prior to the transfer ban being applied. wtf is going on!

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The ban would probably be suspended when they appeal until after the verdict. Then if they lose that they'll go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, and it'll probably be suspended again. I've always thought that there's a rule deep deep down in the sub-sections of the small print of the UEFA rules which gives Barca a helping hand whatever happens.

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There was talk that transfers already agreed would go through regardless of an appeal.