Cable Forum - General ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news

Thanks. What I'm trying to establish is whether it's my poor broadband or a issue with live events being streamed,and from what you say it's the latter rather than my broadband.

l would definitely say it was the latter.

telegramsam

15-12-2020 20:58

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Originally Posted by gaz82 (Post 36062377)

Have you tried watching the game on a different device or just through the Virgin box?

I found on my Fire Stick that changing the output resolution in settings to 50Hz instead of Automatic fixed the poor juddery picture.

Not sure if the Virgin box has any similar settings (There's a setting on Sky Q boxes called Judder which also fixes the issue).

Yeah watched on my Samsung smart TV app and on Sky Q box but both the same. Wasn't aware of this judder thing and not sure what I need to do whilst remaining in the app?

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36062378)

l would definitely say it was the latter.

Yeah my thought too. Simple answer is keep sport on linear channels.

gaz82

15-12-2020 21:56

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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36062379)

Yeah watched on my Samsung smart TV app and on Sky Q box but both the same. Wasn't aware of this judder thing and not sure what I need to do whilst remaining in the app?

On Sky Q, press home, go to Settings, Setup and Audio Visual. Scroll to the bottom and make sure "Judder reduction for TV apps" is OFF.

Judder reduction, when switched on, changes the Sky Q output to 60Hz when opening a US originated app (Netflix, Amazon Prime etc) which matches the contents original frames per second and avoids judder.

European live sport is originally broadcast at 50Hz so this option is counter productive and switching it off will keep the output at 50Hz which will ensure a smoother picture.

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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36062379)

Yeah my thought too. Simple answer is keep sport on linear channels.

I totally agree, as well as picture quality issues streamed sport also introduces a delay. This can be as much as 40 seconds to a minute behind "live" which opens up further issues including score notifications on other apps/sources such as Sky Sports News displaying updates before you see it take place and also issues with in play betting.

Until these issues can be rectified then, in my opinion, streamed live sport is really a non-starter.

daveoc14

16-12-2020 07:59

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I watched first half on firestick and second on the built in tv app and both were very poor, the firestick being worst. Then I watched the Man City game on the firestick and the picture was superb, proper UHD.

spankysmagicpian

16-12-2020 09:23

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I always watch the games on the fire stick. You're right, the City game was top quality. I actually prefer the Amazon picture to the 'normal' SS1 or BT. The colours seem a lot more vibrant on my TV

gaz82

16-12-2020 11:06

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Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 36062397)

I always watch the games on the fire stick. You're right, the City game was top quality. I actually prefer the Amazon picture to the 'normal' SS1 or BT. The colours seem a lot more vibrant on my TV

Sound more like your TV itself has a different picture setting for each input.

Although there’s a difference in frame rate and resolution between broadcasts on Sky and an Amazon stick, I’ve never seen a difference with colour vibrancy or contrast.

denphone

11-01-2021 07:20

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English Premier League on the back foot as live tv rights auction nears.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-auction-nears

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The auction of UK broadcast rights for the 2022-25 seasons will begin later this year and is expected to be a contest between the current holders – Sky, BT and Amazon.

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Two months prior, Sky and BT ended a nearly decade-long dispute to strike a channel-sharing deal so that customers could watch all Premier League games without being forced to buy separate TV packages. This reduced the need to bid big or miss out on the best games.

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Amazon is an opportunistic rights buyer with deals including the Champions League in Germany and a new deal in Italy in December, but it has remained tightly cost-conscious.

“The idea that Amazon is going to spend £1bn at the next auction is laughable,” said one TV industry executive who has been involved in a number of Premier League auctions. “There are a lot of other cheap rights Amazon can invest in, which is what they have done historically.”

Mr K	11-01-2021 07:26

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36066152)

English Premier League on the back foot as live tv rights auction nears.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-auction-nears

I heard Amazon were after the Ashes series next winter, probably more affordable for them.

carravetta

11-01-2021 07:54

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Sounds like it will be the same outcome as the previous auction unless someone springs a surprise (YouTube)

Personally I think they should make all 380 games available

denphone

11-01-2021 08:45

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36066153)

I heard Amazon were after the Ashes series next winter, probably more affordable for them.

l fully expect Sky and BT to pick up the main packages of football matches again with Amazon picking up their usual bargain basement package again.

Mr K	11-01-2021 09:44

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36066156)

l fully expect Sky and BT to pick up the main packages of football matches again with Amazon picking up their usual bargain basement package again.

Oh i dunno, Channel 5 could surprise us all ;)

denphone

11-01-2021 09:52

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36066160)

Oh i dunno, Channel 5 could surprise us all ;)

Have you been watching those pink elephants go flying by again..;)

1andrew1

11-01-2021 12:02

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36066152)

English Premier League on the back foot as live tv rights auction nears.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-auction-nears

Thanks for posting, no real surprises there.

The only possible rights competition I can see is for Amazon's rights, BT's and Sky's are at a different price point. Someone like Eurosport or DAZN may think that Amazon got a bargain and decide to give it a go themselves.

Raider999

11-01-2021 12:10

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36066153)

I heard Amazon were after the Ashes series next winter, probably more affordable for them.

Not sure it is the expense - Amazon policy is not to get involved in long-term rights.

By that I mean things spread over a season - hence they like the concentrated hit of their 2 rounds of EPL matches (timed to entice new Prime members around Black Friday and Xmas).

I think it is highly possible the Ashes may be on a streamer of some nature as it will generate a lot of subscriptions.

However, where streamers lose out is many people just subscribe for a month or two, watch a particular thing then cancel.

I did exactly this with Prime - took month free trial for the Autumn Rugby internationals kept it for an extra month for the football over Xmas then cancelled. Since, cancelling I have received numerous emails from Amazon extolling the virtues of Prime that I will be missing.

Interestingly, this hasn't as yet extended itself to a discounted offer.

cheekyangus

11-01-2021 16:03

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36066160)

Oh i dunno, Channel 5 could surprise us all ;)

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36066162)

Have you been watching those pink elephants go flying by again..;)

Channel 5, back in the day, used to regularly pick up random International and European football matches. They did well for them as I recall. Not really any different them trying something similar again when likes of BBC are picking up random English Premier matches.

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