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Sephiroth 29-10-2023 19:38
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36162964)
I appreciate the overreaction but I doubt GB News would lay anyone off if the Senedd continues with its ban.
It's that Senedd you should be criticising. Dictators of both wings banned the free press of the day and the Welsh government seems to be of that ilk now.

Pierre 29-10-2023 20:05
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Sep, you have to remember that when the Nazis rose to power, the German population were behind them. When the Jews were persecuted and eventually exterminated, I’ll grant the German population did not all know about the death camps, but they were happy see the Jews carted off….to where they knew not, but probably didn’t care.

The point I’m making is that when banning opinions you don’t like, people you don’t like becomes mainstream we’re on dangerous ground.

Russ 29-10-2023 22:07
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163029)
It's that Senedd you should be criticising. Dictators of both wings banned the free press of the day and the Welsh government seems to be of that ilk now.
A) I wasn’t aware there were rules on who or what I should be criticising

B) What makes you think I haven’t previously criticised the Senedd?

Given the elevated level of BS about to be spouted when proven bullshitter Boris starts his show I see nothing wrong with agreeing with a ban (or at least a partial blockage) of GB News there.

Pierre 29-10-2023 22:21
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Banning of any speech is next stop to the authoritarianism state of your choice.

Yes there are caveats. Incitement to violence of course ( someone should tell the Met what Jihad actually means)

But banning speech because “you don’t like it”, well if you want your descendants to end up in a gulag for wrong think, crack on.

Russ 29-10-2023 22:27
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Yeah no worries I’ll keep cracking. Because I didn’t say “I want it banned because I don’t like it” though did I?

That’s twice you’ve accused me of saying it now. I’m getting the hint but I’m not biting sorry.

Pierre 29-10-2023 22:29
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36163039)
Yeah no worries I’ll keep cracking. Because I didn’t say “I want it banned because I don’t like it” though did I?
Not against it though. Pretty supportive I would say. Keep cracking.

Russ 29-10-2023 22:34
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If (twice) trying to put words in someone’s mouth flicks your switch then good on you. Pleased you’ve found a distraction (from reality) hobby.

Pierre 29-10-2023 22:53
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36163041)
If (twice) trying to put words in someone’s mouth flicks your switch
Yes of course, I said

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Not against it though. Pretty supportive I would say. Keep cracking.
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36162925)
good on the Senedd for taking a stand against this crap. Hopefully, this gives them even more motivation to keep it banned there.

“Good on the Senedd”. Sounds pretty supportive to me. “Hopefully it gives them even more motivation to keep it banned “ hardly critical is it.

If you support the suppression of speech you disagree with, just say so, I’d at least respect your position.

I’m not putting words in anyone’s mouth. The only other thing that could fit in your mouth at this point is your foot.

Russ 30-10-2023 04:35
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Doesn’t quite work that way though does it?

You can admire someone’s decision without supporting it.

As an example i could, let’s say, admire your dedication to spouting absolute bollards.

Doesn’t mean I support the absolute bollards that you’d be spouting.

Just because you’re not 100% against something doesn’t mean you’re 100% in favour of it.

TheDaddy 31-10-2023 09:36
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36162900)
Standards in news broadcasting is important whether people watch it or not. That said - I think there’s the potential for this to improve their credibility, and it could be an interesting watch depending on the style and output of the show.

If he’s just another shock jock evangelising about anything and everything probably neither will be true.
Ffs how low is their credibility if hiring a man who lost every job he ever had for lying will improve it, I won't be watching, I tired of his act after his second or third appearance on have I got news for you and he's been playing that act his whole life, poor bumbling boris, it worked well with matron when he was nicking other kids tuck so why change a winning trick

Sephiroth 31-10-2023 09:45
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36163129)
Ffs how low is their credibility if hiring a man who lost every job he ever had for lying will improve it, I won't be watching, I tired of his act after his second or third appearance on have I got news for you and he's been playing that act his whole life, poor bumbling boris, it worked well with matron when he was nicking other kids tuck so why change a winning trick
You're allowing your disdain (hatred?) for Boris to influence your objectivity on GB News. It is an excellent station which brings news from a non-woke angle. Very refreshing.

Boris will be good entertainment.

1andrew1 31-10-2023 10:31
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36163129)
Ffs how low is their credibility if hiring a man who lost every job he ever had for lying will improve it
You've absolutely nailed it there!

GB News has dropped from Andrew Neil's efforts at a serious news channel to a station frequented by shock jocks preaching to the converted who are uncomfortable with the challenge of the breadth of opinions that better-watched channels deliver.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163130)

Boris will be good entertainment.
Hence why it should be renamed to GB Entertainment! ;)

I think Johnson will be vying (not a typo!) with Farage for best presenter, it will be interesting to see how those two get on!

Sephiroth 31-10-2023 10:38
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163131)
You've absolutely nailed it there!

GB News has dropped from Andrew Neil's efforts at a serious news channel to a station frequented by shock jocks preaching to the converted who are uncomfortable with the challenge of the breadth of opinions that better-watched channels deliver.

---------- Post added at 10:31 ---------- Previous post was at 10:30 ----------


Hence why it should be renamed to GB Entertainment! ;)

I think Johnson will be vying (not a typo!) with Farage for best presenter, it will be interesting to see how those two get on!
I'm surprised at your tendency toward groupthink, at least so far as GB News is concerned. They are so unlike the carefully guarded BBC/ITV/SKY and bring exposé to the news.

As regards Boris v Farage, the latter will lower his gravitas if he goes onto Celebrity. Thing about Farage is that he is usually right on what he picks out and highlights as ridiculous government decisions/activities. Boris is just a bumbling buffoon, who might get the 9pm slot.

Farage tells it like it is and he puts balance in from time to time by interviewing the 'other side' without putting them through the mill.

You seem to be associating yourself with leftie groupthink regarding GB News. I hope you watch it in which case, please give me examples of bad reporting.

Hugh 31-10-2023 11:13
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You appear to be associating yourself with rightie groupthink regarding GB News.

1andrew1 31-10-2023 11:14
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163133)
I'm surprised at your tendency toward groupthink, at least so far as GB News is concerned. They are so unlike the carefully guarded BBC/ITV/SKY and bring exposé to the news.

As regards Boris v Farage, the latter will lower his gravitas if he goes onto Celebrity. Thing about Farage is that he is usually right on what he picks out and highlights as ridiculous government decisions/activities. Boris is just a bumbling buffoon, who might get the 9pm slot.

Farage tells it like it is and he puts balance in from time to time by interviewing the 'other side' without putting them through the mill.

You seem to be associating yourself with leftie groupthink regarding GB News. I hope you watch it in which case, please give me examples of bad reporting.
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution. It's a real comfort zone for those who don't like to be challenged by having neutral or left of centre presenters in the room.

GB News is no Panorama and is not the home of investigative journalism. It's an echo chamber of shock jocks which is racking up Ofcom fines, that's your evidence for bad reporting.

I will follow Johnson's time there with interest.


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