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Mick 06-10-2019 11:11
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012917)
Of course he can’t. If you want paragraph after paragraph of unrelated wishful nonsense then knock yourself out.
And if you want “knocking out” of this discussion, carry on with the pathetic petty insults.

Sephiroth 06-10-2019 11:16
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36012908)
Shame on you - if Jeremy Corbyn used these tactics for any other reason, you would be first in the queue to decry him (along with me); but it’s alright if it’s something you support.
Not at all shame on me. Shame on the MPs trying to stop Brexit. As to that anti-semite Corbyn .....

jfman 06-10-2019 11:29
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MPs aren’t trying to stop Brexit, they’re trying to ensure we leave with a deal, which isn’t the same thing.

papa smurf 06-10-2019 11:41
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012922)
MPs aren’t trying to stop Brexit, they’re trying to ensure we leave with a deal, which isn’t the same thing.
The lib dumbs want to revoke a 50, as do the scottish nats, the welsh nuts some labour and cons also.

jfman 06-10-2019 11:52
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36012923)
The lib dumbs want to revoke a 50, as do the scottish nats, the welsh nuts some labour and cons also.
There's always going to be opposition to anything - there's consensus on leaving with a deal. Indeed - it was the ERG and DUP that killed off May's deal. Not MPs as a whole.

1andrew1 06-10-2019 11:52
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What a difference 3.5 years makes. Not only has Wright Bus laid off all its staff but the reality of the Irish border can no longer be escaped.
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Boris Johnson has said he does not believe the Irish border would be affected if the UK left the European Union.
The mayor of London was in Northern Ireland on Monday just 48 hours after Prime Minister David Cameron's visit.
Mr Johnson announced a £62m order for County Antrim firm Wrightbus.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35692452

OLD BOY 06-10-2019 11:56
Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012922)

MPs aren’t trying to stop Brexit, they’re trying to ensure we leave with a deal, which isn’t the same thing.
That's just the cover story. Of course they want to stop Brexit.

Boris may bring back a deal from Europe, but the opposition parties will still vote against it, whatever it says.

Sephiroth 06-10-2019 12:03
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012922)
MPs aren’t trying to stop Brexit, they’re trying to ensure we leave with a deal, which isn’t the same thing.
Oh Dear! They have rejected the only deal that the EU says it will accept and thus know full well that any other deal is unlikely. Their sham policy is merely a foil to get No Brexit.

If you can't see that then you're either kidding yourself or .....

jfman 06-10-2019 12:05
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36012926)
That's just the cover story. Of course they want to stop Brexit.

Boris may bring back a deal from Europe, but the opposition parties will still vote against it, whatever it says.
It's hardly a cover story. It's a statement of fact. The Benn Act doesn't stop Brexit, nor could it, if they wanted to stop Brexit surely they'd vote to revoke?

1andrew1 06-10-2019 12:11
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Anyone hoping that the US will come to our rescue post-Brexit, needs to review how badly the US is treating us now.
The US woman involved in a car crash here that killed teenager Harry Dunn recently left the UK claiming diplomatic immunity.
https://news.sky.com/story/family-to...edium=referral

jfman 06-10-2019 12:11
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36012927)
Oh Dear! They have rejected the only deal that the EU says it will accept and thus know full well that any other deal is unlikely. Their sham policy is merely a foil to get No Brexit.

If you can't see that then you're either kidding yourself or .....
It can only deliver No Brexit if people vote for that in a second referendum or a General Election. We're some distance from there.

I repeat the fact that May's deal went down because of the ERG and the DUP. Had they voted for it we'd have left on March 29.

1andrew1 06-10-2019 12:16
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012930)
It can only deliver No Brexit if people vote for that in a second referendum or a General Election. We're some distance from there.

I repeat the fact that May's deal went down because of the ERG and the DUP. Had they voted for it we'd have left on March 29.
Exactly. They're now trying to revise the historical narrative so it excuses all the disloyal Conservative and DUP MPs who would not support Theresa May. They were the Government and the Government was let down badly by its own MPs.

If they had voted with their own Government, Brexit would have happened by now and we'd be discussing a trade deal.



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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012928)
It's hardly a cover story. It's a statement of fact. The Benn Act doesn't stop Brexit, nor could it, if they wanted to stop Brexit surely they'd vote to revoke?
Less of those pesky facts, jfman! ;)

Sephiroth 06-10-2019 12:29
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012930)
It can only deliver No Brexit if people vote for that in a second referendum or a General Election. We're some distance from there.

I repeat the fact that May's deal went down because of the ERG and the DUP. Had they voted for it we'd have left on March 29.
But in the minds of the Remainer MPs, they know that their's is a foil for No Brexit - as well you know.

May's deal was BRINO and unacceptable to everyone in the UK.

jfman 06-10-2019 12:38
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36012933)

But in the minds of the Remainer MPs, they know that their's is a foil for No Brexit - as well you know.

May's deal was BRINO and unacceptable to everyone in the UK.
May's deal got the support of the vast vast majority of her party in Parliament. It's only the extreme end of the Brexit wing of the party that didn't vote for it.

Despite being BRINO as you put it, none of these so called remainers supported it.

ianch99 06-10-2019 13:01
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I am surprised the race to the bottom has started so early:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit...eld-eu-brexit/

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BORIS Johnson has scrapped a promise to the EU that Britain will abide by “level-playing -field standards” after Brexit.

Ex-PM Theresa May had agreed with Brussels that the UK would stick to similar rules in areas such as competition and state aid plus workplace and environmental protections.
Granted it is the Sun but this seems credible ..


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