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I have been paying attention and as far as I can see, a few people have weighed in with different opinions but nobody's actually got anything concrete either way.

It is a strange one though, why would Virgin seemingly go out of their way to disable 4 channels? It wouldn't be anything daft like having to re-jig the web interface to show all 8, would it? I'm not disagreeing here, I'm just saying that it's odd for them to do that.

I can't disagree with this.

See the main issue I have with this argument is that really you need to say it's no more able than the VMNG300 potentially is because right now it can only do 4 DS channels, no matter what it actually is capable of. I could also say that the Superhub is potentially able to be a decent piece of equipment if you replace the wireless chip inside it but that would just be silly. As it stands today, side by side, the Superhub is more capable than the Ambit 300 - not as a router, but as a modem. Actually technically it's more capable as a router as well, albeit a poor one. It's not completely broken, just really terrible.

Yeah, I agree with this as well. It's funny, because I remember when the SHUB first appeared and I had people on the phone literally screaming at me to get one because they were stick of having to deal with 2 separate boxes. I was more than happy to send them one, it was what they deserved.


I think we can probably put a lid on this one for now.

As much as we all hate the superhub and lament it's wireless (in)capabilities, the awkward truth is that there are quite a lot of people out there who are happy enough with it. Anecdotally, out of all my friends using it, it's probably about a 50/50 split of people who have issues and people who are happy enough. That includes technical people as well who aren't even bothered to put it into modem mode. I've had quite a few conversations whereby I've spotted the superhub in a corner somewhere and gone "Oh...you have a superhub..." and they go "Yeah, I've never had any problems with it". I don't believe them, but they're happy one way or another.
For those people, the superhub is about as future proof as you can get right now. That's not saying the SH2 wasn't a necessary or welcome replacement, but there'll be superhubs around for years yet which to me says it must be future proof to a degree.


See, this brings em back to my original point - why would they use a completely different modem if their existing one was capable of it? Why not put a stock firmware on an ambit 300 if it's capable of the 8 channels? Surely it's more expensive to use a separate modem entirely?

Of course, you have to factor in "Virgin Logic".

Well I guess that rules Virgin out :D

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How good is BT's hub? As far as I'm aware, it's even more locked down and featureless than the SH2 is.

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Not seen such ad's but yes BT are been silly as well.

My experience of the hh3 is that it looks nice, but its a bit of a pile of poo. One gigabit port and very slow wireless.

Never used the hh4, however on paper its not the best as still only has 1 gigabit port.

But there is a upcoming hh5 which will finally be all gigabit so on paper will have equal specs to the SH2. However even if the hardware is ok the features will likely be poor due to the locked down firmware.

One thing good about homehub's is they at least get around the poor pppoe mtu limitation if jumbo frames is enabled. Although thats not relevant to this discussion.

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Isn't the HH5 meant to be wireless-ac?

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Sorry off topic just wondered best settings for wireless in performance section of the asus rt n66u saw seph talking about it a bit bak so fort id ask thanks david

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At least BT's Home Hub 3 was WiFi certification complaint from the outset, VM's Superhub took about a year and half dozen firmware updates before it stopped violating WiFi alliance requirements.

Also BT's HH3 did have actually working congestion and interference avoiding algorithms, which even have the rudimentary ability to avoid non-802.11 interference.

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Indeed.

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I take exception to the implication 802.11ac is equal to 802.11n

Frankly I find the HH3 looked a hell of a lot better than the Superhub 1:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/36.jpg

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Does anyone know when these are going to launch? or even if they have by now can't wait to get rid of my crappy non wireless SH1

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SuperHub 2 has been out for a couple of months now

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Might have to call up and see if I can get one, thought the tech that came around and upgraded my services a couple of weeks ago might of said something as we was talking about how crap the hubs are at wireless.

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I called retentions just now, but as I have an engineer coming out on Saturday to resolve an intermittent fault they won't be posting me one, but as a tech was advised replace SH if need be, they updated the ticket to advise to replace with a SH 2 as well to save them posting it. So hope I get one :)

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ok ill rephrase the hh5 will at least match the shub2 on paper, possibly surpassing if ac is in the final product.

on paper doesnt mean everything tho, as the shub2 has modem mode, its wireless apparently works pretty well, and its not as locked down as bt's firmware, eg. on the hh3 I couldnt even make myself pingable.

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WTF is with those antennae!

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read Qasi's signature!

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I got a SH2 installed today to replace the SH1 i had due to ongoing issues. Seems to be fine but the hub has rebooted itself 3 times since being installed at 8am this morning. Is this a common fault with the SH2? My signal levels are fine and for all the nonsense that the SH1 was, it never rebooted itself.

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That doesn't sound very promising :(

Get yourself a proper router and stick the hub in modem mode.

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Kushan: And that picture is of the small antennae!
Qas did a home trial? of various router/modems.