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RizzyKing 09-09-2007 20:47

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Well Arthur when i have travelled abroad i always felt once i left the british isles i was in the jurisdication of the country i was travelling too not britain. If i had commited a crime in that country yes i would expect an english speaking lawyer but i wouldn't expect all the locals of that country to speak english just to make it easier for me.

iglu 09-09-2007 21:08

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34393058)
Well Arthur when i have travelled abroad i always felt once i left the british isles i was in the jurisdication of the country i was travelling too not britain. If i had commited a crime in that country yes i would expect an english speaking lawyer but i wouldn't expect all the locals of that country to speak english just to make it easier for me.


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Xaccers 09-09-2007 21:57

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Hang on, I can't find anything other than the British police have handed over early findings from a forensic investigation which isn't even completed, and only traces of blood, not declared publicly as being Madeline's, was found in the rental car.

Arthurgray50@blu 09-09-2007 22:09

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Hello Rizzyking, thank you for replying to the comment, let me just clarify, what l mean't to say, As l said you would be covered in legal terms via the British Consul, and they would supplier legal advisors.

Coming to the language barrier bit, IF you were to get into problems, you would expect, legal advice on the basis that if you were sitting in the room and they were talking, there language, you would need someone who understood that language, that is what l meant to say, and yes you are a british citizen and deserve the best, and l still say that the McCanns are innocent, and say that ' that ' money that has been building up should now be used to hire a private detective to find the girl.:)

Gareth 10-09-2007 01:52

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
The next time I'm in Saudi Arabia, I'll try to remember that because I can drink alcohol in Britain, and because I'm a British citizen, it must be OK for me to have a few lager shandies ;)

Talking about legal advisors, here's an interesting quote from the News of the World (yeah yeah yeah, I know).....

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotW
Then he revealed they may consider flying in a crack legal team from the UK to assist their Portuguese advisor.

But he confessed he is frustrated they are not allowed to use any of the £800,000 Madeleine Fund— boosted by celebrity appeals including Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling and soccer star David Beckham—to pay their mounting legal bills.

"It seems like a disaster that we've got this huge donated fund and now we're not allowed to use it for legal costs because we're under suspicion," said Gerry.

source: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0909_maddie.shtml

Actually, Mr McCann, I think you'll find that most people donated that money in order to help locate your daughter, not to help you get off any charges the Portuguese police make against you and your wife.

XFS03 10-09-2007 03:19

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34393251)
...Actually, Mr McCann, I think you'll find that most people donated that money in order to help locate your daughter, not to help you get off any charges the Portuguese police make against you and your wife.

True, but if you look on their website you will see that one of the objects of the fund is:-

1.1.3 To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine’s family.

Perhaps he was hoping to use this clause to pay for his legal fees.

http://www.findmadeleine.com/fund/


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Xaccers 10-09-2007 08:59

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34393251)
The next time I'm in Saudi Arabia, I'll try to remember that because I can drink alcohol in Britain, and because I'm a British citizen, it must be OK for me to have a few lager shandies ;)

My parents used to brew their own beer and wine in Saudi, stong stuff too, many people would have to stagger home after one of their parties :)

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Originally Posted by Gareth
Actually, Mr McCann, I think you'll find that most people donated that money in order to help locate your daughter, not to help you get off any charges the Portuguese police make against you and your wife.

That's always puzzled me.
How exactly is the donated money supposed to help find her?
Are they employing groups of people to roam Portugal looking for her, or hiring private investigators to work alongside the police?
Or do the police have access to the money to help them divert resources to searching for her (which they appear to have stopped doing)?

Osem 10-09-2007 09:31

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34393320)

That's always puzzled me.
How exactly is the donated money supposed to help find her?
Are they employing groups of people to roam Portugal looking for her, or hiring private investigators to work alongside the police?
Or do the police have access to the money to help them divert resources to searching for her (which they appear to have stopped doing)?

Presumably the money has been helping to pay for the vast international public awareness campaign the McCanns have been running and other expenses associated with it.

TheDaddy 10-09-2007 09:53

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34393320)
How exactly is the donated money supposed to help find her?
Are they employing groups of people to roam Portugal looking for her, or hiring private investigators to work alongside the police?

There has been some criticism in US papers because they didn't do just that!

mrmistoffelees 10-09-2007 10:29

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34393326)
Presumably the money has been helping to pay for the vast international public awareness campaign the McCanns have been running and other expenses associated with it.

Like meeting the pope ???

TheDaddy 10-09-2007 10:48

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34393346)
Like meeting the pope ???

No like the web site, apparently the money the public donated has hardly been touched

handyman 10-09-2007 10:53

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34393354)
No like the web site, apparently the money the public donated has hardly been touched

The web site? It is sponsored by the web host and won't have cost a penny.

Theres a Million quid in the fund now and they are still asking for donations.:erm:

Saaf_laandon_mo 10-09-2007 10:55

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
The administrators/trustees of that fund include some family members doesn't it? I do not think that such funds need to be audited for public scrutiny.

Also I assmume that some media quarters will have donated their resources free of charge. Additionally the use of Phil Greens(is that his name) jet, the trip to see the Pope (Whos website no longer acknowledges them), the public displays at football grounds etc etc didnt cost them anything at all.

RizzyKing 10-09-2007 11:07

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I can't see how the publicity has cost them a thing so far.

ikthius 10-09-2007 11:08

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
so what will happen to the money, when she is found, dead or alive???

sorry, but I am not helping bad parents, some people out there would love to have kids but cant, these idiots left there kids to go out for a meal in a foreign country.


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