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Chad 18-10-2016 12:47

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35864363)
Why in a few months haven't Sky already shown enough big games? It's yet more proof people are getting fed up with the ever increasing costs of Pay TV.

Would be interesting to see if other sports viewing figures have dipped too or is it simply Premiership football that's effected. 19% drop in viewers doesn't necessarily mean a 19% drop in subscribers. There has been a lot of poor fixtures on SKY and I'm not a big fan of the presentation of Friday Night football. More big games packaged and presented properly might help boost viewing figures?

muppetman11 18-10-2016 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35864394)
19% drop in viewers doesn't necessarily mean a 19% drop in subscribers.

Agreed but look how many people are being offered discounts for Sports , if everything was as expected would they need to offer these? In my opinion some of the drop can be attributed to people cancelling

denphone 18-10-2016 13:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35864363)
Why in a few months haven't Sky already shown enough big games? It's yet more proof people are getting fed up with the ever increasing costs of Pay TV.

l think we need far more prolonged figures before we can say Sky's customer base is on a downhill spiral MM.

alwaysabear 18-10-2016 14:33

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Originally Posted by trickytree (Post 35864381)
I have Sky Sports for the Championship and the cricket.
If you were 2 take your average mid table Championship game and the same for the Premier League for a neutral the Championship would be more exciting.
The Premier League has become pretty boring with the Championship having more goals and just end to end action.

I used to watch any Premier League game I could but take last night as an example Liverpool v Man Utd (2 powerhouses of the league of you believe the hype) completely dull 0-0.
Forest v Cardiff on Friday night tune in and I guarantee more entertaining.

I have Sky sports primarily for American football, but I do watch quite a bit of football. American football has definitely been more exciting than the Premier league games shown over the weekend and this season in general.

OLD BOY 18-10-2016 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35864363)
Why in a few months haven't Sky already shown enough big games? It's yet more proof people are getting fed up with the ever increasing costs of Pay TV.

Well, when they start leaving in droves, Sky will get the message and both sports bids and subscription prices will fall.

I'm afraid that as long as people are prepared to pay stupid prices for football, Sky will be encouraged to keep their prices sky high.

denphone 18-10-2016 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35864435)
Well, when they start leaving in droves, Sky will get the message and both sports bids and subscription prices will fall.

I'm afraid that as long as people are prepared to pay stupid prices for football, Sky will be encouraged to keep their prices sky high.

But they are not leaving in droves are they currently?.

OLD BOY 18-10-2016 19:40

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35864444)
But they are not leaving in droves are they currently?.

Correct answer.

And oh, look at those lovely high prices! :drunk:

See, the comparison works! :cleader:

alwaysabear 18-10-2016 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35864444)
But they are not leaving in droves are they currently?.

With all the special deals on sports packages that are being offered to keep customers, Sky must be taking a hit.The question is how long can they keep doing it until profits begin to suffer?

Chad 18-10-2016 20:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35864398)
Agreed but look how many people are being offered discounts for Sports , if everything was as expected would they need to offer these? In my opinion some of the drop can be attributed to people cancelling

Got to agree. Logged into my SKY account just now and seen this offer.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...10/2.jpg:large

denphone 19-10-2016 04:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35864518)
With all the special deals on sports packages that are being offered to keep customers, Sky must be taking a hit.The question is how long can they keep doing it until profits begin to suffer?

Well they have been giving considerable discounts for some time and still their profits continue to rise so there is your answer great bear.

OLD BOY 19-10-2016 07:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35864564)
Well they have been giving considerable discounts for some time and still their profits continue to rise so there is your answer great bear.

Yes, Den, but if substantial numbers of viewers fall away, Sky's profits will take a big hit.

denphone 19-10-2016 09:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35864577)
Yes, Den, but if substantial numbers of viewers fall away, Sky's profits will take a big hit.

Well like many of your other great Nostradamus predictions they have yet to transpire old boy.;)

OLD BOY 19-10-2016 10:31

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35864600)
Well like many of your other great Nostradamus predictions they have yet to transpire old boy.;)

Yes, that's the annoying thing about the future - it hasn't happened - yet!

muppetman11 19-10-2016 11:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35864577)
Yes, Den, but if substantial numbers of viewers fall away, Sky's profits will take a big hit.

Den doesn't like to admit things are changing he's one of those stuck in his ways.;)

denphone 19-10-2016 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35864614)
Den doesn't like to admit things are changing he's one of those stuck in his ways.;)

Crikey l nearly choked on my tea reading critical comments from one so respected on this forum.;):D

Richc1977 19-10-2016 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35864444)
But they are not leaving in droves are they currently?.

I think that slowly the numbers will keep decreasing, with possibly NOW TV and UHD stopping the rot slightly.

You average family wants a mix of film, TV Box sets, kids TV and sport. In the past you had either Sky or Cable yet now with Smart TV you can have freeview and pick and choose a bit of Netflix/Amazon and Now TV, Eurosport Player etc.. Or opt for BT TV and get a reasonable amount of sport (just need a bit more cricket and I'd be satisfied)

Interesting times ahead (especially as a self proclaimed SKY hater) . Exclusive content is the key but when it comes to sport the price is being forced up at ridiculous levels and I think it's about to hit a peak.

alwaysabear 19-10-2016 16:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35864564)
Well they have been giving considerable discounts for some time and still their profits continue to rise so there is your answer great bear.

They maybe for now, but at the rate of discounts it can only be a matter of time before profits take a hit. Unless the sponsorship they get fills the gap, then again they are reliant on viewing figures . IMO we are at a tipping point the next Premier League sports rights deal will be interesting.

denphone 20-10-2016 19:03

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BT Sport snap up TV rights for National Badminton League.

Read more at http://www.onemk.co.uk/bt-sport-snap...jsqrGkuVAIi.99

muppetman11 20-10-2016 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35864940)
BT Sport snap up TV rights for National Badminton League.

Read more at http://www.onemk.co.uk/bt-sport-snap...jsqrGkuVAIi.99

Can't wait :D

denphone 20-10-2016 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35864945)
Can't wait :D

l thought that would cheer up your rather miserable demeanour of late old boy.;):D

Mad Max 20-10-2016 19:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35864940)
BT Sport snap up TV rights for National Badminton League.

Read more at http://www.onemk.co.uk/bt-sport-snap...jsqrGkuVAIi.99


Brilliant, i can now throw the sleeping tablets in the bin.......:D

Chad 20-10-2016 20:47

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The NOW TV SKY Sports day pass promo is back on cases of Carling.

Passes are available on 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, 24 440ml packs of Carling Lager.

Limited to 3 codes per NOW TV account. Codes valid until 11:59pm on 30th June 2017.

ASDA are doing 3 cases of Carling, 12 cans per case, for £20.00. That's cheaper than what 3 NOW TV Sports day passes would actually cost to buy on their own.

https://www.carling.com/competitions/nowtv

Mad Max 20-10-2016 21:07

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The worst lager ever, lol............

Arthurgray50@blu 20-10-2016 21:39

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Old Boy., l totally agree with you. A major, major problem is that Sky have increase coverage of TV football, long with BT sport and with VM pushing the price up. And these companies are paying really high money

Football fans continue to at the price. Channels will show it.

I am a big footie fan and watch it all the time (not Arsenal though, or Celtic. I do have my principles)

When l firt started to Spurs. the whole day cost me £20 and that included entrance fee.

Now, l cannot go due to the price. It would cost be somewhere in the region of £100.00 I am not paying that

My wife took me and the family / Grandchildren (which was great) and that was on a family ticket. and that costly.

I think Barca only charge the equivalent of £20.00 and they are the very best in football.

But no, while fans are prepared t pay the money - it will get shown

Chad 20-10-2016 22:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35864976)
The worst lager ever, lol............

I'm sure after the first 35 cans the 36th will be delicious :D

telegramsam 21-10-2016 08:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35864976)
The worst lager ever, lol............

A matter of opinion. Personally I find it quite refreshing.

vincerooney 21-10-2016 23:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35864982)
Old Boy., l totally agree with you. A major, major problem is that Sky have increase coverage of TV football, long with BT sport and with VM pushing the price up. And these companies are paying really high money

Football fans continue to at the price. Channels will show it.

I am a big footie fan and watch it all the time (not Arsenal though, or Celtic. I do have my principles)

When l firt started to Spurs. the whole day cost me £20 and that included entrance fee.

Now, l cannot go due to the price. It would cost be somewhere in the region of £100.00 I am not paying that

My wife took me and the family / Grandchildren (which was great) and that was on a family ticket. and that costly.

I think Barca only charge the equivalent of £20.00 and they are the very best in football.

But no, while fans are prepared t pay the money - it will get shown

I dont think the EPL will get the same increase next time. People said that last time and i disagreed i think its hit the peak now. TV ratings are down. Thats the important thing. Advertisers will not pay as much which will worry lickle sky and murdoch who are there to make a profit remember.

Losing the champions league to bt is probably the best thing ever as it means BT have been saddled with a hugely expensive contract with little movement on their subscriptions.

Both companies have been burnt by their experiences. Expect some sort of truce in 2 years time. Brexit will reduce the pound too so everything is worth less.

I can expect the amounts spent will remain the same and our prices may go up a few quid but hopefully, hopefully it wont increase as much as it has

i am not scouse 22-10-2016 06:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35864976)
The worst lager ever, lol............

I beg to differ. I find fosters the worst. I'd rather drink council pop straight out of the tap

Chad 26-10-2016 00:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35864328)
Shocker for Sky as football fans turn off with 19 per cent drop in viewing figures for live Premier League games.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...gue-games.html

Looks like BT are having the same issue with their Champions League viewing figures

https://www.theguardian.com/football...g-football-off

It's an interesting read which does a better job than the Daily Mail article to explain reasons why people are not tuning in. I can certainly see some truth in the following:

"Is the sport now so all-pervasive that actually watching a full match is becoming a tedious inconvenience if the relevant action and talking points can all be absorbed via osmosis on Twitter and other social media channels?"

Could be a valid point. I watched a video on Youtube recently which raised similar points and trends about poor WWE viewing figures and how the younger viewers are consuming WWE content. Here's a link anyone who is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Iz7gVcDb8

muppetman11 26-10-2016 09:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35865740)
Looks like BT are having the same issue with their Champions League viewing figures

https://www.theguardian.com/football...g-football-off

It's an interesting read which does a better job than the Daily Mail article to explain reasons why people are not tuning in. I can certainly see some truth in the following:

"Is the sport now so all-pervasive that actually watching a full match is becoming a tedious inconvenience if the relevant action and talking points can all be absorbed via osmosis on Twitter and other social media channels?"

Could be a valid point. I watched a video on Youtube recently which raised similar points and trends about poor WWE viewing figures and how the younger viewers are consuming WWE content. Here's a link anyone who is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Iz7gVcDb8

They are all picking up on it now
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...er-league-beh/

denphone 26-10-2016 09:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35865785)

The trouble with larges parts of the media is they are a bit like sheep following sheep MM as they all tend to jump on the same bandwagon be it this , Jose Mourinho's head on a platter or many many other things.

Gavin-D 27-10-2016 12:32

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BT TV adds 63,000 taking it to 1.7 million Sport audiences rise

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...udiences-rise/

denphone 27-10-2016 12:41

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It would be nice to see a real breakdown of the figures but alas like the others thats unlikely.

Gavin-D 27-10-2016 15:58

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BBC 4K could launch via the iplayer

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bbc-could-us...h-4k-services/

OLD BOY 27-10-2016 18:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35866086)
BBC 4K could launch via the iplayer

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bbc-could-us...h-4k-services/

This is really good news for VM viewers with a V6 box.

Chad 27-10-2016 22:50

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BT's Champions League viewing figures continue to attract scrutiny

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...al-for-fa-cup/

"BT faces a far tougher challenge keeping hold of exclusive rights to Uefa’s club competitions in the new year after less than 400,000 people watched its free-to-air coverage of Manchester City’s 4-0 Champions League defeat at Barcelona. A rare airing of Manchester United outside pay-TV drew even fewer eyeballs the following night as the media giant’s hopes of securing another three-year deal arguably suffered their biggest blow yet.

Analysis by Telegraph Sport of the ratings of BT Sport Showcase – which replaced ITV1 as the Champions League’s free-to-air station last year – show they are still shockingly low halfway through this season’s group stage. An average of only 236,666 people have watched the three matches involving English teams on the channel, with Leicester’s historic opening game attracting just 160,000 viewers. That compares to the average of almost five million who watched play‑off round and group-stage fixtures involving Premier League sides on ITV two seasons ago.

Telegraph Sport revealed earlier this year that Showcase ratings in last season’s group stage had been so poor Uefa’s marketing agency, Team, was planning either to demand a better free-to-air offering in its next UK TV contract or simply allow all matches to be put behind a paywall.

A lack of public awareness of BT’s Freeview channel also led to more people watching its subscription-only coverage, a pattern that has continued this season. More than 1.2 million tuned in to the Barca-City game on BT Sport 2, while almost 1.4 million watched United beat Fenerbahce 4-1 in the Europa League on the same channel the following evening, compared with only 381,000 on Showcase."

telegramsam 28-10-2016 18:32

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It's hardly surprising that so few tune into these games when there's no publicity about them being on a free to air channel at all! I only know they're on Showcase because I read this forum. and my mother only knows because I pass the news on to her!
Of course BT want all of us to pay to watch and don't want to publicise that you can watch for free

1andrew1 28-10-2016 18:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35866316)
It's hardly surprising that so few tune into these games when there's no publicity about them being on a free to air channel at all! I only know they're on Showcase because I read this forum. and my mother only knows because I pass the news on to her!
Of course BT want all of us to pay to watch and don't want to publicise that you can watch for free

Agreed. If they made more an effort with the channel even if they showed historical matches and documentaries or less popular sports to ensure it was a full-time channel then people may watch those matches.

thenry 01-11-2016 10:57

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Champions League awareness is soo bad on BT. Advertising on Sky was soo much better but that of course would be due to having rights to more viewed programming.

Richc1977 08-11-2016 18:38

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BBC retain their non exclusive ATP world tour finals rights until 2018

http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/b..._finals_rights

Gavin-D 09-11-2016 09:03

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The latest bond film Spectre is now a world premiere on Sky cinema in 4K / ultra HD

denphone 11-11-2016 14:17

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BT Sport sign landmark boxing deal with Frank Warren and BoxNation.

Quote:

From 2017, Frank Warren will promote 20 UK events a year, Live on BT Sport
The 20 UK events will also be shown Live on BoxNation
From 2017, BoxNation will be included in BT Sport’s pack of channels and available to all BT Sport customers
Frank Warren will promote a further 10 events, in the UK per year, Live and Exclusive on BoxNation
BoxNation customers can still look forward to over 30 events per year from around the World, including output deals with the biggest Promoters in the USA, Top Rank and Golden Boy.
A total of 30 live televised boxing events will see Frank Warren as Europe’s most active Promoter
Deal will mark the start of a new era for Boxing in the UK

Quote:

*This deal currently does not include Virgin Media Customers
http://www.boxnation.com/boxing-news...and-boxnation/

1andrew1 11-11-2016 14:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35869109)
BT Sport sign landmark boxing deal with Frank Warren and BoxNation.

http://www.boxnation.com/boxing-news...and-boxnation/

Good find, Den. I suspect a VM deal will follow. That channel has always lost money so this looks like a long-term sensible solution.

denphone 11-11-2016 14:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35869112)
Good find, Den. I suspect a VM deal will follow. That channel has always lost money so this looks like a long-term sensible solution.

Well Virgin better start getting their skates on as there will be some who will be tempted by this news Andrew especially those who love their boxing.

denphone 11-11-2016 17:22

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On top of the Boxnation announcement BT has revealed details of its “next-generation” TV service.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-unveils-n...-all-new-look/

OLD BOY 12-11-2016 12:46

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This decline in interest of sport by younger people might be a signal that the cost of football rights may start to level out soon.

http://advanced-television.com/2016/...-sport-waning/

RichardCoulter 12-11-2016 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35869109)
BT Sport sign landmark boxing deal with Frank Warren and BoxNation.

http://www.boxnation.com/boxing-news...and-boxnation/

I wonder if BT are following the path of Setanta (and VM to an extent) and will also be adding Premier Sports & Racing UK to their sports package?

They get to offer standalone channels at a bargain price, whilst the standalone channels benefit by having many small subs to their channels as opposed to a few large ones.

Their extra reach may also benefit their advertising rates too.

RichardCoulter 16-11-2016 18:50

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Info from another thread:

Eurosport announced today that it is going to show Pro12 rugby.

For those on the M/Player package MB says that some games will be on Eurosport Extra (AKA Quest).

I never knew that Eurosport used Quest as an overflow channel (or to promote their offering), whichever is the case.

1andrew1 16-11-2016 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35869987)
Info from another thread:

Eurosport announced today that it is going to show Pro12 rugby.

For those on the M/Player package MB says that some games will be on Eurosport Extra (AKA Quest).

I never knew that Eurosport used Quest as an overflow channel (or to promote their offering), whichever is the case.

Me neither. I guess now that Eurosport is 100% owned by Discovery, it can use Quest in this way.

Richc1977 17-11-2016 12:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35869987)
Info from another thread:

Eurosport announced today that it is going to show Pro12 rugby.

For those on the M/Player package MB says that some games will be on Eurosport Extra (AKA Quest).

I never knew that Eurosport used Quest as an overflow channel (or to promote their offering), whichever is the case.

Eurosports Pro12 rights are just for Italy and in the UK it's still on Sky, at least as far as I am aware

Richc1977 17-11-2016 16:29

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BBC Extends Wimbledon Rights until 2024

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/38017299

Off the Bit 18-11-2016 13:34

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Motors TV acquired by Motorsport Network, owner of Autosport magazine.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...ors-tv-channel

Quote:

The revised channel will graduate to full HD (high-definition) status in March 2017, with content accessible from a wide array of platforms from desktop, mobile, tablet, streaming devices, gaming consoles and connected televisions to set-top devices such as Apple TV, Amazon Fire and Roku.

OLD BOY 18-11-2016 17:00

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Looks like Sky may be preparing to face up to global operators challenging them for sports rights - particularly for Premiership football - in the future.

http://advanced-television.com/2016/...ess-important/

Sky’s Group CEO Jeremy Darroch has said that while sport remains a key part of its broadcast portfolio, the content rights aren’t as important as they once were.

Speaking at a Morgan Stanley investor conference in Barcelona, Darroch said: “Sport is very important, obviously football is very important, but relatively, every day it is less important than it was and that allows us to make more choices about how much we spend, where we invest and where we choose not to.”


Bloomberg has reported that “younger viewers in particular are now less committed to watching entire games and are instead keeping tabs on smartphones” and playing down falling viewing figures for the Premier League this season citing the Olympics, Euro 2016 Championship, relegation of Newcastle / Aston Villa and game picks.

One equity analyst (from investment bank Exane/BNP-Paribas) said it saw these comments as broadly consistent with recent company commentary on content. “For example, at Sky’s investor day, the company argued consistently they will make ‘tough decisions’ on content and have also suggested that the loss of the Champions League to BT has had a limited impact on the UK’s operating performance. The group has repeatedly flagged the increasing diversity of its content offering, and increasing importance of premium TV series in its content roster. However, with 80 per cent+ inflation at the two recent critical auctions (EPL and Bundesliga) the group clearly is willing to pay up to sustain their content differentiation, especially in sport.”

vincerooney 19-11-2016 20:09

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I've found the premier league to be dreadful this year. Its a london love fest with constant cockney teams playing and irrelevant little clubs in the other games.

Im sorry but bournemouth in the premier league is just sad really. Its a fairytale for themselves but a team with a 10,000 capacity stadium... It shouldnt really be in the top flight.

The problem is a lot of big clubs are in the championship due to incompetence. Teams like forest, leeds, aston villa, derby, sheff wed, ipswich, birmingham etc etc. I could keep going on. Big teams who when they were in the premier league went for it. Went for ballsy signings. Spent money. Wanted to break into the top ten.

Meanwhile in the premier league you have stoke city, west brom, bournemouth, watford, swansea...some of the teams with the smallest attendances btw...are merely happy to survive. They dont spend a lot. They develop nasty defensive little sides, they collect their huge tv money and never really spend it...they develop a sort of hybrid mid table side.

Its why people are turning off.

The premier league consists of 6 teams who are trying to win the league.

The rest are just happy to keep drawing and ticking the points up to 40.

It doesnt make good viewing! Its so horrifically boring

Superblade7 19-11-2016 20:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35870525)
I've found the premier league to be dreadful this year. Its a london love fest with constant cockney teams playing and irrelevant little clubs in the other games.

Im sorry but bournemouth in the premier league is just sad really. Its a fairytale for themselves but a team with a 10,000 capacity stadium... It shouldnt really be in the top flight.

The problem is a lot of big clubs are in the championship due to incompetence. Teams like forest, leeds, aston villa, derby, sheff wed, ipswich, birmingham etc etc. I could keep going on. Big teams who when they were in the premier league went for it. Went for ballsy signings. Spent money. Wanted to break into the top ten.

Meanwhile in the premier league you have stoke city, west brom, bournemouth, watford, swansea...some of the teams with the smallest attendances btw...are merely happy to survive. They dont spend a lot. They develop nasty defensive little sides, they collect their huge tv money and never really spend it...they develop a sort of hybrid mid table side.

Its why people are turning off.

The premier league consists of 6 teams who are trying to win the league.

The rest are just happy to keep drawing and ticking the points up to 40.

It doesnt make good viewing! Its so horrifically boring

Spot on Vince! :gpoint:

Just the 20,195 watching a League One match at Bramall Lane this afternoon! ;)

1andrew1 19-11-2016 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35870525)
I've found the premier league to be dreadful this year. Its a london love fest with constant cockney teams playing and irrelevant little clubs in the other games.

Im sorry but bournemouth in the premier league is just sad really. Its a fairytale for themselves but a team with a 10,000 capacity stadium... It shouldnt really be in the top flight.

The problem is a lot of big clubs are in the championship due to incompetence. Teams like forest, leeds, aston villa, derby, sheff wed, ipswich, birmingham etc etc. I could keep going on. Big teams who when they were in the premier league went for it. Went for ballsy signings. Spent money. Wanted to break into the top ten.

Meanwhile in the premier league you have stoke city, west brom, bournemouth, watford, swansea...some of the teams with the smallest attendances btw...are merely happy to survive. They dont spend a lot. They develop nasty defensive little sides, they collect their huge tv money and never really spend it...they develop a sort of hybrid mid table side.

Its why people are turning off.

The premier league consists of 6 teams who are trying to win the league.

The rest are just happy to keep drawing and ticking the points up to 40.

It doesnt make good viewing! Its so horrifically boring

Google translate = your team Newcastle got relegated last season. ;)

Richc1977 21-11-2016 14:06

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ITV has won the rights to the 2019 and 2023 Rugby World Cups

/http://www.sportbusiness.com/tv-sports-markets/itv-signs-two-world-cups-new-deals-start-roll

denphone 21-11-2016 14:09

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No surprise there as they have generally done a good job showing it for many years now.

harry_hitch 21-11-2016 15:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35870525)
I've found the premier league to be dreadful this year. Its a london love fest with constant cockney teams playing and irrelevant little clubs in the other games.

Im sorry but bournemouth in the premier league is just sad really. Its a fairytale for themselves but a team with a 10,000 capacity stadium... It shouldnt really be in the top flight.

The problem is a lot of big clubs are in the championship due to incompetence. Teams like forest, leeds, aston villa, derby, sheff wed, ipswich, birmingham etc etc. I could keep going on. Big teams who when they were in the premier league went for it. Went for ballsy signings. Spent money. Wanted to break into the top ten.

Meanwhile in the premier league you have stoke city, west brom, bournemouth, watford, swansea...some of the teams with the smallest attendances btw...are merely happy to survive. They dont spend a lot. They develop nasty defensive little sides, they collect their huge tv money and never really spend it...they develop a sort of hybrid mid table side.

Its why people are turning off.

The premier league consists of 6 teams who are trying to win the league.

The rest are just happy to keep drawing and ticking the points up to 40.

It doesnt make good viewing! Its so horrifically boring

Vince you make many excellent points and you have hit a lot nails on their respective heads, but I am going to have to disagree with you about Bournemouth. As a fan of a small club myself, Bournemouth have every right to be there. From what I have seen and heard, I understand they play decent football and fully deserve to be there. They are a great example for smaller clubs to show how things can be done, without breaking the bank. I would rather have teams like Bournemouth working hard for the right to be in the top 10, rather than clubs being ballsy and just spending money and hope it works.

Personally, I don't think their capacity should have anything to do with it. What difference does it make if they have 50,000 fans or 10,000 fans? The 10,00 fans at Bournemouth probably make more noise than those at Old Trafford or the Emirates. When we (Camb Utd) were only allowed to take 9,000 to Old Trafford we did not stop singing and were much louder than the rest of the stadium. It was a dire atmosphere at Old Trafford, even when they were 3-0 up. We even sang songs for them..... Equally when I saw Arsenal v Man City at the Emirates, the atmosphere again, was poor. Capacity, in my eyes, has nothing to do with teams being in the PL.

As you rightly say, look at what some of the bigger clubs have done, and look where they are now. Why should Bournemouth spend just for the sake of spending? They have every chance of getting into Europe, and I would be very happy for them if they do. I can't see them not finishing top 10 either. They are a well run club, based on hard work and team ethic. Yes, it is unlikely they will win the league or even reach CL, but as long as they play good football, don't play for draws and work hard for it, they deserve to be there.

p.s

For what it's worth, Bournemouth and Watford (and Burnley) have all won or lost more games than they have drawn, so I think its a little unfair to say they are happy to play defensively for draws. I fully agree with your broader point about some teams playing for draws and the money they will get as a result of staying up, though.

I look forward to the next round of bidding, and the PL potentially losing money from TV rights.

Gavin-D 23-11-2016 15:40

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Sky sport and movies are now half price for 12 months for customers with sky who don't have sports or movies already

Sky sports is £13.25 a month

muppetman11 24-11-2016 10:58

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YouView unveils new faster, cleaner, TV user interface

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1395...user-interface

Chad 26-11-2016 21:29

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Here's a trip down memory lane.

Can anyone remember when you could get just SKY Sports 1 & 2, both channels for about £21.00, if you didn't want to pay extra for the full collection of SKY Sports channels? I seem to remember having this in the past with Virgin Media but they stopped it about 5 or 6 years ago? I also seem to remember at some point if you had this deal SKY Sports 3 and 4 got thrown in at no additional cost.

Can someone verify this or is it just my mind playing tricks? Why did they stop it?

telegramsam 26-11-2016 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35871986)
Here's a trip down memory lane.

Can anyone remember when you could get just SKY Sports 1 & 2, both channels for about £21.00, if you didn't want to pay extra for the full collection of SKY Sports channels? I seem to remember having this in the past with Virgin Media but they stopped it about 5 or 6 years ago? I also seem to remember at some point if you had this deal SKY Sports 3 and 4 got thrown in at no additional cost.

Can someone verify this or is it just my mind playing tricks? Why did they stop it?

I remember it as you could subscribe to either Sky Sports 1 & 3, Sky Sports 2 & 4 or all 4 . As all the football was on either 1 or 3 those days us football fans had to take all 4 if you didn't want to miss out on any live games.

bubblegun 27-11-2016 04:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35871986)
Here's a trip down memory lane.

Can anyone remember when you could get just SKY Sports 1 & 2, both channels for about £21.00, if you didn't want to pay extra for the full collection of SKY Sports channels? I seem to remember having this in the past with Virgin Media but they stopped it about 5 or 6 years ago? I also seem to remember at some point if you had this deal SKY Sports 3 and 4 got thrown in at no additional cost.

Can someone verify this or is it just my mind playing tricks? Why did they stop it?

Sky customers can get Sports 1 & 5 for a £13.50 per month saving, eg if they only watch English football as this will give (almost) every match.
They can also get Sports 2 & 5 if they prefer cricket with lesser football like Scottish games.
WWE fans can also save with this as almost all WWE is now on Sports 5.

Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35871993)
I remember it as you could subscribe to either Sky Sports 1 & 3, Sky Sports 2 & 4 or all 4 . As all the football was on either 1 or 3 those days us football fans had to take all 4 if you didn't want to miss out on any live games.

Looking at above it's not so different now for Sky customers.

I'm not so sure about your memory.

I thought it was that you got Sports 3 for free with either Sports 1 or 2.
Then Sports 4 came free with both.

Sports 5 was added a few years ago to gauge support for Champions League in its final year.

Sports Xtra was made internet only too at some point.
It was originally a channel.

telegramsam 27-11-2016 08:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bubblegun (Post 35872053)
Sky customers can get Sports 1 & 5 for a £13.50 per month saving, eg if they only watch English football as this will give (almost) every match.
They can also get Sports 2 & 5 if they prefer cricket with lesser football like Scottish games.
WWE fans can also save with this as almost all WWE is now on Sports 5.



Looking at above it's not so different now for Sky customers.

I'm not so sure about your memory.

I thought it was that you got Sports 3 for free with either Sports 1 or 2.
Then Sports 4 came free with both.

Sports 5 was added a few years ago to gauge support for Champions League in its final year.

Sports Xtra was made internet only too at some point.
It was originally a channel.

Think you're right now you've refreshed my memory.

Chad 27-11-2016 11:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bubblegun (Post 35872053)
Sky customers can get Sports 1 & 5 for a £13.50 per month saving, eg if they only watch English football as this will give (almost) every match.
They can also get Sports 2 & 5 if they prefer cricket with lesser football like Scottish games.
WWE fans can also save with this as almost all WWE is now on Sports 5.



Looking at above it's not so different now for Sky customers.

I'm not so sure about your memory.

I thought it was that you got Sports 3 for free with either Sports 1 or 2.
Then Sports 4 came free with both.

Sports 5 was added a few years ago to gauge support for Champions League in its final year.

Sports Xtra was made internet only too at some point.
It was originally a channel.

Good info, thanks.

denphone 28-11-2016 12:06

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Boost for women's sport as Sky signs biggest ever rights deal for UK netball.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...nd-superleague

1andrew1 28-11-2016 17:34

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Motors TV stays committed to traditional linear broadcasting.
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...usiness-usual/

passingbat 28-11-2016 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35872324)
Motors TV stays committed to traditional linear broadcasting.
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...usiness-usual/


But they are adding streaming as well, and HD.


To quote the article, " The best of both worlds".

Chad 28-11-2016 22:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35864143)
SKY to show their first Premiership game on SKY Sports Mix this coming Saturday with Bournemouth vs Spurs.

SKY to show their second Premiership game on SKY Sports Mix on Saturday the 17th December. Crystal Palace Vs. Chelsea. At this rate SKY are likely to show 5 Premiership games on SKY Sports Mix before the season is out.

Richc1977 29-11-2016 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35872369)
SKY to show their second Premiership game on SKY Sports Mix on Saturday the 17th December. Crystal Palace Vs. Chelsea. At this rate SKY are likely to show 5 Premiership games on SKY Sports Mix before the season is out.

That was what was suggested when the surveys went out 2 or 3 years ago. From what I recall, 5 EPL and up to 10 EFL per season.

I imagine one of those will be a third pick on the final day of the season, they did that a few years back putting it on Sky 1

muppetman11 29-11-2016 18:21

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Sky Mobile details released

https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...mobile-service

muppetman11 29-11-2016 20:25

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Rollover seems a nice idea but data allowances seem a little low for heavier users , competitors seem to offer more for similar prices.

Chad 29-11-2016 22:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35872491)

Underwhelmed

1andrew1 29-11-2016 22:42

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I was expecting more competitive rates from Sky.

By comparison, BT's Plusnet subsidiary has entered the market with the following competitive introductory rates:
4Gb data 1,500 minutes £10pm
2Gb data 1,000 minutes £7.50pm

VM's rates are
4Gb data 2,500 minutes £15pm
2Gb data 2,500 minutes £12pm

Sky's rates are more expensive than either of the above providers.
3GB for £15pm unlimited calls for Sky customers, charged for non-Sky
5GB for £20pm unlimited calls for Sky customers, charged for non-Sky

muppetman11 09-12-2016 20:37

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21st Century Fox in bid approach for Sky

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38267199

---------- Post added at 20:37 ---------- Previous post was at 20:27 ----------

Sky Sports will continue to broadcast the All-Ireland Gaelic Football and Hurling Championship after securing a five-year deal with the GAA.

http://www.skysports.com/gaa/gaelic-...hes-per-season

Chad 13-12-2016 18:10

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ITV Box Office to launch early 2017 with Chris Eubank Jr. featured on their first PPV event

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-12-13/c...tv-box-office/

1andrew1 13-12-2016 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35875608)
ITV Box Office to launch early 2017 with Chris Eubank Jr. featured on their first PPV event

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-12-13/c...tv-box-office/

That's an interesting approach by ITV.

denphone 13-12-2016 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35875608)
ITV Box Office to launch early 2017 with Chris Eubank Jr. featured on their first PPV event

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-12-13/c...tv-box-office/

More depressing reality if ever it was needed that Boxing has totally sold its soul.:td::(

Gavin-D 15-12-2016 12:56

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@AFP

#BREAKING 21st Century Fox announces $14.8 bn deal to take over Sky

Mad Max 15-12-2016 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35875894)
@AFP

#BREAKING 21st Century Fox announces $14.8 bn deal to take over Sky

Probably wont help us get Sky Atlantic etc....

denphone 15-12-2016 15:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35875917)
Probably wont help us get Sky Atlantic etc....

Not a chance MM.....:no::no::no:

OLD BOY 15-12-2016 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35875917)
Probably wont help us get Sky Atlantic etc....

It could do, although I'm not holding my breath. There was a suggestion in last Tuesday's Daily Telegraph that there could be a different approach by Fox towards SA, to increase its availability.

However, this could simply mean extending access across Europe rather than access by other UK platforms.

I also read that by extending its global reach, Fox could seek to bag the football premiership market. However, are there not rules that prevent one company from picking up all the rights?

Dave42 15-12-2016 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35875917)
Probably wont help us get Sky Atlantic etc....

we were never getting it anyway man

denphone 16-12-2016 16:09

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BT TV will debut Dolby Atmos audio on January 31.

http://www.insideci.co.uk/news/bt-tv...-football.aspx

KingofAvalon 16-12-2016 17:53

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If anyone knows this Boxnation will be bundled with BT Sports will get HD version but am afraid not available to Virgin Media Customers.

muppetman11 17-12-2016 16:41

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Anyone with Sky TV its worth checking your email , Sky are giving customers a free Sky Store purchase worth £13.99 or free boxsets for 3 months for those who don't subscribe.

https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...ing_thank_youi

Chad 17-12-2016 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35876241)
Anyone with Sky TV its worth checking your email , Sky are giving customers a free Sky Store purchase worth £13.99 or free boxsets for 3 months for those who don't subscribe.

https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...ing_thank_youi

Cheers for the info. Wonder if I can use this to purchase the pre-order of Rogue One

muppetman11 17-12-2016 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35876247)
Cheers for the info. Wonder if I can use this to purchase the pre-order of Rogue One

The money goes as a credit on Sky Store you can then choose what you want.

1andrew1 21-12-2016 22:13

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BT loses competition appeal against Ofcom over Sky pay-tv
21/12/2016
The CAT unanimously rejected BT’s arguments and issued a withering assessment of the telecoms company’s points.
The judgement stated that “it is important to remember that regulation is not a “one-way street”, and it is not only failure to intervene that can be problematic”.

Judgment : http://www.catribunal.org.uk/files/1...ent_211216.pdf
Pay link to FT article https://www.ft.com/content/5a64e484-...2-c1d69cb9857d or Google headline for free access.

1andrew1 29-12-2016 09:34

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Liberty Media plans Formula One revamp
* Each international Grand Prix to become a week of events to engage spectators and attract new sponsors.
* Exploring the launch of new Grand Prix in big media markets eg New York, Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Miami.
* Promote the rivalries between teams and drivers helping people understand the technology that goes into the sport, and new digital platforms.
Google headline or subscriber link at https://www.ft.com/content/aa35adfc-...f-20dcb35cede2

ozsat 29-12-2016 15:23

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There isn't actually an HD version of Boxnation - Boxnation HD carries one or two fights a week only and is not a fulltime channel.
Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofAvalon (Post 35876104)
If anyone knows this Boxnation will be bundled with BT Sports will get HD version but am afraid not available to Virgin Media Customers.


denphone 31-12-2016 09:00

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Court told that the number of TalkTalk customers paying a regular monthly subscription for TV channels could be as low as 125,000.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/court-told-t...v-subscribers/

muppetman11 31-12-2016 09:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35878541)
Court told that the number of TalkTalk customers paying a regular monthly subscription for TV channels could be as low as 125,000.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/court-told-t...v-subscribers/

So BT's John Petter basically has no idea and is playing a guessing game.

denphone 31-12-2016 10:03

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Indeed MM.

muppetman11 12-01-2017 16:43

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Spidercam to make Premier League debut in Manchester United vs Liverpool match

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...-vs-liverpool/

figgyburn 12-01-2017 20:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35880335)
Spidercam to make Premier League debut in Manchester United vs Liverpool match

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...-vs-liverpool/

First used in 1984 and we are just going to use it now in 2017

muppetman11 12-01-2017 21:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35880387)
First used in 1984 and we are just going to use it now in 2017

It's been used before by Sky for Cricket and by others in finals just not in the Premier League games. The NFL havre used it for a long while.

OLD BOY 17-01-2017 13:50

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Some speculation here that the price paid for sports rights may be reaching its peak.

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...-sports-costs/

denphone 17-01-2017 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35880991)
Some speculation here that the price paid for sports rights may be reaching its peak.

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...-sports-costs/

Well they said that 10 years ago but sadly that did not hold much substance then and l doubt whether it holds any substance now.


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