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jfman 21-10-2020 10:57
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They did offer games at £8 each, but I have no idea how utilised this option was. The £50 - or £25 at Christmas - presented better value.

nialli 21-10-2020 11:51
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It could be the first move towards club-based season tickets, which I'd be interested in if it was reasonably priced. On Sky and BT I tend to watch the Sunday afternoon PL 4.30 kick off whoever's playing as it's normally a weekend's biggest match but otherwise I only watch my team and catch up with other matches on MOTD.

TonyM85 21-10-2020 12:39
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Looking at guides for football games on TV this week I see there is a load of Europa League games under 'BT Sport Digital Exclusive'. I assume it's through their website / app and there will be no option for Virgin viewers to watch?

johnasimmons 21-10-2020 13:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyM85 (Post 36054568)
Looking at guides for football games on TV this week I see there is a load of Europa League games under 'BT Sport Digital Exclusive'. I assume it's through their website / app and there will be no option for Virgin viewers to watch?
I think its another way of saying 'red button'

ozsat 21-10-2020 15:20
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https://www.live-footballontv.com/

All the BT Extra games are on the Red Button on BT, Virgin and Sky.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyM85 (Post 36054568)
Looking at guides for football games on TV this week I see there is a load of Europa League games under 'BT Sport Digital Exclusive'. I assume it's through their website / app and there will be no option for Virgin viewers to watch?

Raider999 21-10-2020 16:38
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36054541)
it was at the time!

"After six seasons on air it closed down at the end of the 2006–07 season, when EU competition laws forced Sky to break its monopoly on the Premier League, having broadcast 270 matches live and exclusive from the Premier League"

I'm fairly sure it was ofcom which did this? So it went from 50 quid a season to an extra 20 quid a month for all the games!
Yes it was £50pa if you paid up front before start of season. I'm not sure where your £20pm comes from unless that was the monthly charge at the time for those who didn't want to commit up front.

jfman 21-10-2020 22:41
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36054584)
Yes it was £50pa if you paid up front before start of season. I'm not sure where your £20pm comes from unless that was the monthly charge at the time for those who didn't want to commit up front.
I think he’s approximating the cost of BT Sport where the non-Sky Sports games ended up. Of course it’s “free” to whatever they call TV XL these days, but for BT, Sky and Virgin customers below this tier there is additional cost.

reddog 22-10-2020 18:58
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Any sign of Boxnation be added to TV GO?

---------- Post added at 18:58 ---------- Previous post was at 18:54 ----------

Being?

Raider999 24-10-2020 13:49
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I see the Sky Liverpool v Sheffield Utd PPV game is being replayed in full overnight, it's a disgrace BT cannot do similar or even put a highlights package on of their PPV games.

OLD BOY 24-10-2020 19:55
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While I understand the concerns people have expressed that PPV may replace subscription TV, I do think this has been over-hyped. The matches that are PPV would not have been accessed at all without it, so there is no problem there. If you don’t want to watch PPV matches, then simply don’t watch them. This is a temporary, not a permanent arrangement.

I can’t see Sky and BT replacing PPV to replace their subscription packages. The increased cost will simply mean that they get fewer participants. PPV only works where individuals want a one-off experience. It does not work for a whole season of football.

jfman 24-10-2020 20:21
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36054786)
While I understand the concerns people have expressed that PPV may replace subscription TV, I do think this has been over-hyped. The matches that are PPV would not have been accessed at all without it, so there is no problem there. If you don’t want to watch PPV matches, then simply don’t watch them. This is a temporary, not a permanent arrangement.

I can’t see Sky and BT replacing PPV to replace their subscription packages. The increased cost will simply mean that they get fewer participants. PPV only works where individuals want a one-off experience. It does not work for a whole season of football.
As a non-football fan by your own admission I'm uncertain if you are the right person to opine on this as someone completely unaffected both in the short and long term of PPV football.

Sky and BT don't need to replace their subscription models with this - the Premier League could do this for them. While nobody expects a 'whole season' to end up being £15 a go, because that's simply ridiculous, but it only takes a handful of key games - the must see games - to make the situation for the end users - the actual football fans.

Boxing PPV started out around one per year then suddenly accelerated as providers realised this was a way to gouge fans of more money for the more attractive bouts. Now we have six in the space of two months totalling £110.

Beware the unanticipated outcomes of 'extra games' being make available in the innocuous manner that you describe.

telegramsam 24-10-2020 20:29
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36054786)
While I understand the concerns people have expressed that PPV may replace subscription TV, I do think this has been over-hyped. The matches that are PPV would not have been accessed at all without it, so there is no problem there. If you don’t want to watch PPV matches, then simply don’t watch them. This is a temporary, not a permanent arrangement.

I can’t see Sky and BT replacing PPV to replace their subscription packages. The increased cost will simply mean that they get fewer participants. PPV only works where individuals want a one-off experience. It does not work for a whole season of football.
I hope you're right because I wouldn't like a situation where you have to pay a single fee for each Premier league games or the best games were on ppv. I like to watch as many games as I can regardless of who's playing. Would of liked to of watched the Liverpool v Sheffield United match but not paying £14.95 Will instead record the re run later on Main Event

Mad Max 24-10-2020 21:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36054794)
As a non-football fan by your own admission I'm uncertain if you are the right person to opine on this as someone completely unaffected both in the short and long term of PPV football.

Sky and BT don't need to replace their subscription models with this - the Premier League could do this for them. While nobody expects a 'whole season' to end up being £15 a go, because that's simply ridiculous, but it only takes a handful of key games - the must see games - to make the situation for the end users - the actual football fans.

Boxing PPV started out around one per year then suddenly accelerated as providers realised this was a way to gouge fans of more money for the more attractive bouts. Now we have six in the space of two months totalling £110.

Beware the unanticipated outcomes of 'extra games' being make available in the innocuous manner that you describe.

Totally agree with the above, it's the thin edge of the wedge imo.

ozsat 25-10-2020 07:22
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The actual football fan is getting a discount - £15 for a match they would have paid £40+ to go and see if the stadium was open.

The only people complaining are those who were never going to see the game in the first place - and now have a chance to at £15.

The real "bad guys" in this are those on the field taking massive wages for little more than three hours work a week - on a busy week.

Maybe it is them that should be giving something back to the fans?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36054794)
While nobody expects a 'whole season' to end up being £15 a go, because that's simply ridiculous, but it only takes a handful of key games - the must see games - to make the situation for the end users - the actual football fans.

jfman 25-10-2020 08:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36054824)
The actual football fan is getting a discount - £15 for a match they would have paid £40+ to go and see if the stadium was open.

The only people complaining are those who were never going to see the game in the first place - and now have a chance to at £15.

The real "bad guys" in this are those on the field taking massive wages for little more than three hours work a week - on a busy week.

Maybe it is them that should be giving something back to the fans?
Ah the old ‘actual fans go to games’ chestnut. I think you’ll find with TV revenue dwarfing ticket revenue (sometimes even including the prawn sandwich brigade up in hospitality) that TV viewers bring more to the table financially.

I’m all for a tax system that makes the super wealthy pay more but I fail to see why footballers get singled out over TV/movie stars, bankers and FTSE 100 CEOs.


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