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Pierre 04-02-2025 20:17

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Would you have seen this headline in the first couple of weeks under a Harris administration ?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuarta...key-countries/

1andrew1 04-02-2025 20:28

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36190654)
Would you have seen this headline in the first couple of weeks under a Harris administration ?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuarta...key-countries/

It was published under a Biden-Harris administration

The article was published 25 October 2024.

Trump took office three months later on 20 January 2025.

Pierre 04-02-2025 20:30

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36190653)
what Biden had already discussed and agreed with both parties is the point.

Well Biden (or his proxy,whoever that was) discussed lots of things….like the deal in 2022

https://www.reuters.com/world/americ...ns-2022-07-12/

After which illegal crossings increased dramatically.

The “point” is Trump is ensuring action.

Stephen 04-02-2025 20:35

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36190654)
Would you have seen this headline in the first couple of weeks under a Harris administration ?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuarta...key-countries/

Sorry but that article is from 2024. Biden was still president.

Trump is weak, he has no negotiations skills nor can get work out good deals. He just has dummy spitting toy throwing tactics.

Most of what Canada and Mexico 'agreed' to do had already previously been agreed to.

Pierre 04-02-2025 20:42

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36190657)
It was published under a Biden-Harris administration

The article was published 25 October 2024.

Trump took office three months later on 20 January 2025.

Ha, ha, well I look like a dick, that’ll teach me.

I read an article saying 90 something per cent of deportees already had unenforced removal orders and conflated the two

https://9gag.com/gag/aByZ9P2

Saw the 98% headline and copied and pasted without checking.

Hugh 04-02-2025 20:59

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Fairly even-handed WP article on the negotiations

https://wapo.st/4aJ1pUw

Quote:

The particulars of the Canada deal are thus, as relayed by Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Trump, who quoted Trudeau’s version of events on social media:
Canada will implement a $1.3 billion border plan that includes helicopters, technology, personnel and “enhanced coordination with our American partners.”

Trudeau also said 10,000 personnel “are and will be working on protecting the border.”

It will launch a “joint strike force” with the United States to combat organized crime, fentanyl and money laundering.

It will appoint a fentanyl czar.

It will list drug cartels as terrorist organizations.

It will spend $200 million on a new “intelligence directive” on fentanyl and organized crime.

It will “ensure 24/7 eyes on the border.”

The first thing to note is that the first two aren’t really new. Canada had already announced the $1.3 billion border plan in December. Part of that plan was proposing the joint strike force.

Canada also said in December that it already had 8,500 personnel on the border. (Which appears to be why Trudeau said these people “are and will be” on the border — the vast majority are already there.)

It’s clear that both moves were done with potential future tariffs in mind; Trump has been threatening them, and Canada has been fearing them for many months. But these things were clearly already on the table when Trump made his specific threat.

That means the actually new things that came after Trump’s threat, apparently, are the fentanyl czar, labeling cartels terrorists, the $200 million and 24/7 eyes on the border.

Most of these are geared toward fentanyl. But it’s worth emphasizing that the flow of fentanyl from Canada is a tiny percentage of the drug that’s seized at U.S. borders — about 0.2 percent. Border authorities seized about 43 pounds in 2024, compared with more than 21,000 pounds from the Mexican border. And data shows that the vast majority of fentanyl seized from Canada — about 80 percent — was brought by U.S. citizens.

Paul 04-02-2025 22:25

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Trump did his usual, "look at me, Im a big bully do as I say" (or else).

As a result, the stock market took a hit, and his business "friends" no doubt pointed out what a disaster this could turn into (and I expect he realised he's likely losing money as well) so he used a get out of jail free card by agreeing to what was largely already agreed, so he could "postpone" them, and still look good.

Everyone already knows what a complete pratt he is, but somehow he's still managed to look an even bigger fool to the world.

He'll end up upsetting the wrong (powerful) people, ones with the means to remove him.

denphone 05-02-2025 05:07

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36190673)
Trump did his usual, "look at me, Im a big bully do as I say" (or else).

As a result, the stock market took a hit, and his business "friends" no doubt pointed out what a disaster this could turn into (and I expect he realised he's likely losing money as well) so he used a get out of jail free card by agreeing to what was largely already agreed, so he could "postpone" them, and still look good.

Everyone already knows what a complete pratt he is, but somehow he's still managed to look an even bigger fool to the world.

He'll end up upsetting the wrong (powerful) people, ones with the means to remove him.

Very much my sentiments as day by day since his second presidency started he has made himself look even more of a clown then he already is.

Paul 05-02-2025 05:21

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Now he wants to "take over" Gaza.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clyn05y9x2xt

1andrew1 05-02-2025 07:55

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36190686)
Now he wants to "take over" Gaza.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clyn05y9x2xt

Sounds like more attention seeking.

Hugh 05-02-2025 08:48

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cia...ts-2025-02-05/

Quote:

The Central Intelligence Agency offered buyouts to its entire workforce Tuesday, citing an aim to bring the agency in line with U.S. President Donald Trump's priorities, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

A CIA spokesperson said in a statement the moves were meant to align the agency with the goals of new CIA Director John Ratcliffe.

"Director Ratcliffe is moving swiftly to ensure the CIA workforce is responsive to the Administration's national security priorities. These moves are part of a holistic strategy to infuse the Agency with renewed energy," a CIA spokesperson said in a statement.

ianch99 05-02-2025 14:12

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36190703)

What normally happens in these situations is that the best and most able employees take the money (if it is there) and walk into a new job. The remaining, collectively less able, workforce then have to work harder to take up the slack which in turn leads to further attrition and a poorer service overall.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36190686)
Now he wants to "take over" Gaza.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clyn05y9x2xt

He's probably done a deal with Bibi. Remember that the slogan: "From the river to the sea", it applies very much to the Likud Party currently in power plus the religious extremists partners in the coalition.

A number of the Ultra-Zionist Israelis very much want the Arabs gone from Gaza in the same way they view the West Bank.

Hugh 05-02-2025 17:57

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://wapo.st/4aJaKvP

Quote:

A federal judge Tuesday indefinitely blocked President Donald Trump’s effort to curb birthright citizenship for the children of undocumented immigrants and temporary foreign visitors, a decision that is likely to mean the executive order will not take effect as planned later this month.

U.S. District Judge Deborah L. Boardman issued a preliminary injunction after a court hearing in Greenbelt, Maryland, in a lawsuit brought by civil rights groups aiming at stopping Trump’s order on the grounds that it violates the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment.

The injunction applies nationally and will remain in place as the case is adjudicated. The Maryland lawsuit is one of at least six federal cases brought against Trump’s order by a total of 22 Democratic-led states and more than a half-dozen civil rights groups.

Hom3r 05-02-2025 21:21

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
So Trump has become Transphobic?

Chris 05-02-2025 22:12

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36190751)
So Trump has become Transphobic?

There’s nothing transphobic about believing in fair opportunities for women and girls.

‘Transwomen’ are men, and have no place in women’s sports. It’s unfair. Simple as that really.

And ‘-phobic’ isn’t an argument for or against anything, the suffix is bandied about as a means of shutting down debate. Trans activists have been especially keen on there being no debate because their proposition is absurd.


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