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nomadking 22-03-2020 15:29
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36028395)
Absolutely, nobody should blame individuals. However as it seems to have been a "cultural" issue people are too scared to address the issue and that is very wrong.

I cannot stand Trump but he's absolutely right to refer to it as the "Chinese virus".
Well there's not a "the corona virus", as there's been more than one. If he'd referred to "Covid-19", would anybody have known what he was talking about? Nobody fusses over referring to "Spanish Flu".

jfman 22-03-2020 16:02
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36028396)
Well there's not a "the corona virus", as there's been more than one. If he'd referred to "Covid-19", would anybody have known what he was talking about? Nobody fusses over referring to "Spanish Flu".
Nobody fusses over the Spanish flu because there’s little point renaming something 100 years later. Trump is actively calling this something that it isn’t to dog whistle it his supporters, and while there is more than one coronavirus unless you are in a specific scientific community there’s a 100% chance you mean the one killing tens of thousands of people right now.

denphone 22-03-2020 16:26
Re: Coronavirus
 
Complete and utter madness IMO.:banghead::banghead:

https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news...ional-17962039

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nor...icter-17961170

jfman 22-03-2020 16:30
Re: Coronavirus
 
I think Chris said it best, Den.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36028124)
We as a nation have disgraced ourselves this week.

denphone 22-03-2020 16:37
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36028399)
I think Chris said it best, Den.
Most definitely as l do despair that many are just not getting the message or have just wilfully chosen to ignore it.

Angua 22-03-2020 16:37
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36028397)
Nobody fusses over the Spanish flu because there’s little point renaming something 100 years later. Trump is actively calling this something that it isn’t to dog whistle it his supporters, and while there is more than one coronavirus unless you are in a specific scientific community there’s a 100% chance you mean the one killing tens of thousands of people right now.
Not a care for those like my Sister in Law & her daughter who are Chinese, but have not set foot in China for a decade or more.

Words matter.

Coronavirus covers things like the common cold, yet Corona Beer sales dropped drastically.

Mr K 22-03-2020 16:43
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36028398)
As I said a few pages ago this us what worries me, there are a lot of stupid 'we know better'people in this country. Street markets in London rammed full of people too. Just because China has managed to control this, we shouldn't assume we will, totally different cultures. They respect authority, we don't.

Boris needs to ditch his libertarian principles and start insisting rather than asking. Lockdown time should have been a week ago, particularly in London.

nomadking 22-03-2020 17:00
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36028403)
As I said a few pages ago this us what worries me, there are a lot of stupid 'we know better'people in this country. Street markets in London rammed full of people too. Just because China has managed to control this, we shouldn't assume we will, totally different cultures. They respect authority, we don't.

Boris needs to ditch his libertarian principles and start insisting rather than asking. Lockdown time should have been a week ago, particularly in London.
At least the argument could go "I asked nicely before, but you all ignored it, so this what is going to happen". Would the British police enforce it the same way as those in France, or armed soldiers in Italy?

denphone 22-03-2020 17:01
Re: Coronavirus
 
As of 9am on Sunday, there were 5,683 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the UK.

And 281 patients in the UK who tested positive for coronavirus have died.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...emand-11961884

jfman 22-03-2020 17:07
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36028404)
At least the argument could go "I asked nicely before, but you all ignored it, so this what is going to happen". Would the British police enforce it the same way as those in France, or armed soldiers in Italy?
The British police lack the manpower. Italy and Spain have almost double the police numbers and lower populations.

We will have the army on the streets.

nomadking 22-03-2020 17:13
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36028406)
The British police lack the manpower. Italy and Spain have almost double the police numbers and lower populations.

We will have the army on the streets.
Not so much lack of manpower, as lack of willingness to take the necessary action.

denphone 22-03-2020 17:15
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36028408)
Not so much lack of manpower, as lack of willingness to take the necessary action.
Exactly.

jfman 22-03-2020 17:16
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36028408)
Not so much lack of manpower, as lack of willingness to take the necessary action.
Didn’t look like they had the manpower in the London 2011 riots - they simply had to stand back and permit civil disobedience and crime for a number of days.

pip08456 22-03-2020 18:01
Re: Coronavirus
 
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1241782171897135105

Mr K 22-03-2020 18:10
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36028413)
People have already demonstrated they aren't going to follow the guidelines, so what's he waiting for ?


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