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Lots of things aren't sustainable.

20% (ish) of the population on the dole isn't sustainable

the money spent on disabled (physically and mentally) isn't sustainable

£millions spent consulting on various vanity projects (subsequently cancelled) isn't sustainable

Pushing headlong into technology and products that require RARE earth minerals doesn't sound sustainable to me either :D

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Despite their name, Rare Earth elements are not actually that rare, its just a misname thats stuck over the centuries.

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You wait until price wars start :D

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You are confusing Farage with Tommy Robinson, whom Farage has refused to back.

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Correct, technically they ‘rare; at all, but they all have very similar chemical properties, (check where they are on the periodic table, well other than Scandium), and only exist in nature as similar compounds, which means that separating and isolating each one tended to be a laborious and costly exercise.

Hence the name. Historically.

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To paraphrase Oscar Wilde
*Robert Ford - expelled, now Independent
Bill Barrett - expelled, now Independent, setting up "Independent Reformers"
Oliver Bradshaw - expelled, now Independent
Brian Black - expelled, now Independent
Paul Thomas - expelled, now Independent
Maxine Fothergill - suspended, now Independent
Isabella Kemp - now Independent
James Buchan - defected to Conservatives
Amelia Randall - defected to UKIP
Daniel Taylor - suspended, now Independent

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As Hugh points out those councillors who failed to adhere to party standards were immediately suspended, they probably now realise the reform party isn't right for them and have moved on ,or are planning a return in the future


similarly

How many Labour MPs have been suspended since the election?
The seven Labour MPs suspended for six months were John McDonnell, Richard Burgon, Ian Byrne, Rebecca Long-Bailey, Imran Hussain, Apsana Begum and Zarah Sultana, all of whom subsequently sat as independents.

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The thing is…..it doesn’t matter.


Potential Reform voters won’t know of this, and if they do probably couldn’t care even less.

As I say, Reform will continue to be popular because they aren’t the other two.

It’s weather, they can keep that going for another 3.5 years.

But if Labour carry on this trajectory……it’s possible

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And what does the UK do for 5 years if they do get elected at the GE? It does matter if they are a bunch of incompetent clowns. Then they will become the most unpopular, and theres nothing for years the electorate can do.

I hope they get masses of power before the next GE, so they can be exposed, like they have been in Kent.

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They’ll be no more incompetent than the current bunch of incompetent clowns or previous iterations of incompetent clowns.

If they screw it up, which is entirely possible, even probable, matters not.

What matters is that Labour, and Tory will have to bend towards the wishes of the people if they want to get back into power.

They will have to out Reform, Reform


I don’t expect a reform government, if there is one, to be successful, but I think it is necessary.

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Must be some sort of sadism, righties like that sort of thing....

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Change is required.

Concurrent Labour and Tory governments have got us to where we are, and it's not a good place.

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It certainly is, and when it happens it won't be pretty.

I've already got the pitchfork, but the only 'flaming torches' I can find are solar powered . . . which doesn't quite fit the 'angry mob' scenario ;)

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Mmmmmm - suspicions confirmed….

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1762523665