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Mick 26-03-2017 17:40
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35891790)
No more pathetic than refusing to admit when he has failed or refusing to admit when he is shown to be a liar .The excuses that you and some others on here come up with to excuse his buffoonery are quite simply staggering and really quite amusing.
More negative trash from you. :rolleyes:

1andrew1 26-03-2017 20:27
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35891787)
I get this but I find it utterly ridiculous that people are making wild accusations of him telling lies during the campaigns.

You know as much as I, the President cannot change such laws on a whim, that is down to congress, congress makes and changes laws, the President is there to approve them or reject them, he has tried to get a replacement for HC but as you have said and I agree, it is very complex but to solely blame Trump because it's Trump, is just wrong, at least in some part you are not appearing to just blame Trump, but others here just are gunning for Trump all the time and it is pathetic.
Trump set himself up for a fall, no one else did. I guess he was correct - no one replaced ObamaCare like he replaced ObamaCare! :D

Here's what Trump said on 9/2/16
"We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!"
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...blican-7650446

martyh 26-03-2017 20:39
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35891820)
Trump set himself up for a fall, no one else did. I guess he was correct - no one replaced ObamaCare like he replaced ObamaCare! :D

Here's what Trump said on 9/2/16
"We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!"
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...blican-7650446
No no no he didn't say that at all it's all fake news and Democrat lies:D

Mick 26-03-2017 21:19
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35891820)
Trump set himself up for a fall, no one else did. I guess he was correct - no one replaced ObamaCare like he replaced ObamaCare! :D

Here's what Trump said on 9/2/16
"We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!"
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...blican-7650446
He set out to immediately repeal it by getting congress to set new laws, he could not do this himself, so no he did not set himself up for a fall at all, by pulling the vote, he has done the opposite. :dozey:

1andrew1 26-03-2017 21:26
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35891821)
No no no he didn't say that at all it's all fake news and Democrat lies:D
Trump's pure comedy gold, he's like a political version of David Brent. :D

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35891823)
He set out to immediately repeal it by getting congress to set new laws, he could not do this himself, so no he did not set himself up for a fall at all, by pulling the vote, he has done the opposite. :dozey:
He says we. "We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare". I assumes this means the Republican Party which dominates Congress.

Mick 26-03-2017 21:50
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35891824)
He says we. "We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare". I assumes this means the Republican Party which dominates Congress.
Again, he immediately set out to get the laws changed by Congress. Congress could not agree to garner enough support to get the bill passed so he pulled it. He has years left to try again, it's not immediate, but the attempt is there!!!! :rolleyes:

1andrew1 26-03-2017 21:57
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35891831)
Again, he immediately set out to get the laws changed by Congress. Congress could not agree to garner enough support to get the bill passed so he pulled it. He has years left to try again, it's not immediate, but the attempt is there!!!! :rolleyes:
I set out to pass my driving test but I failed. It's different from passing which is what his tweet said.

Mick 26-03-2017 22:03
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35891834)
I set out to pass my driving test but I failed. It's different from passing which is what his tweet said.
Poor analogy, try again, actually no, don't bother. I stand by my point. :rolleyes:

1andrew1 26-03-2017 22:21
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35891835)
Poor analogy, try again, actually no, don't bother. I stand by my point. :rolleyes:
ok, stepping away from the metaphors,Trump said "We [the Republican Party] will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare" he didn't say "We will try and set out to immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare if my colleagues will let me" which is what you seem to be implying he said.

martyh 27-03-2017 06:57
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35891831)
Again, he immediately set out to get the laws changed by Congress. Congress could not agree to garner enough support to get the bill passed so he pulled it. He has years left to try again, it's not immediate, but the attempt is there!!!! :rolleyes:
If you can't see the problem in that then there is no hope for you at all.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35891837)
ok, stepping away from the metaphors,Trump said "We [the Republican Party] will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare" he didn't say "We will try and set out to immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare if my colleagues will let me" which is what you seem to be implying he said.
Sky views has an interesting commentary this morning

http://news.sky.com/story/sky-views-...erica-10815339

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The police chief of the country's second-biggest city says women in Latino communities have stopped reporting sexual assault and domestic violence for fear of drawing attention to their immigration status.
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Similarly that uncertainty over the future of healthcare has led to some - among them Mr Trump's backers - cancelling operations because they fear their insurance disappearing overnight and leaving them with a massive bill.

Remember, no insurance plus serious illness often equals bankruptcy in the Land of the Free.
and this little gem

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Mr Trump's response to even that failing was to walk away, blaming others and warning his countrymen of the doom that lies ahead.

He told a reporter this week: "I can't be doing so badly, because I'm president and you're not."

Mick 27-03-2017 08:59
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35891859)
If you can't see the problem in that then there is no hope for you at all.
Nothing whatsoever to do with hope, it's called democracy, something you banged on about in the brexit thread, congress is like our parliament, checks and balances and then a final vote, it could not go to a final vote due to having not enough support, so if all else fails, try again. It would have been more bad if the vote had gone ahead and it failed.

So having hope is irrelevant, end of the day, he was elected President and there is no amount of excessive and constant negative moaning, you or others do, will change anything.

I just refuse to or want to join the, over-the-top negative hysteria, lets bash Trump, because it's Trump, club. Nor do I want to follow the one sided press, who are so obviously against Trump, I mean look at this weekend, there was more Pro Trump rallies in America over weekend, you're not hearing about it on Sky News or BBC news are you?

Infact, there was about 2000 Pro-Trump supporters in Southern California, walking along a beach (And btw California typically leans democrat) and 30 Anti-Trump protesters, masked and dressed in black, sprayed pepper spray at the organizers and tried to block their path, so a mass brawl broke out. The stupid black masked morons and imbeciles, came off worse.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...lash-southern/

So you talk about hope, my hope or expectation was fulfilled on November 9th, 2016 and that was, no surprises... watching Hillary lose.

Mr K 27-03-2017 20:21
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35891864)
Nothing whatsoever to do with hope, it's called democracy, something you banged on about in the brexit thread, congress is like our parliament, checks and balances and then a final vote, it could not go to a final vote due to having not enough support, so if all else fails, try again. It would have been more bad if the vote had gone ahead and it failed.

So having hope is irrelevant, end of the day, he was elected President and there is no amount of excessive and constant negative moaning, you or others do, will change anything.

I just refuse to or want to join the, over-the-top negative hysteria, lets bash Trump, because it's Trump, club. Nor do I want to follow the one sided press, who are so obviously against Trump, I mean look at this weekend, there was more Pro Trump rallies in America over weekend, you're not hearing about it on Sky News or BBC news are you?

Infact, there was about 2000 Pro-Trump supporters in Southern California, walking along a beach (And btw California typically leans democrat) and 30 Anti-Trump protesters, masked and dressed in black, sprayed pepper spray at the organizers and tried to block their path, so a mass brawl broke out. The stupid black masked morons and imbeciles, came off worse.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...lash-southern/

So you talk about hope, my hope or expectation was fulfilled on November 9th, 2016 and that was, no surprises... watching Hillary lose.
Just a a matter of interest Mick, what would Trump have to do to register your disapproval ? **** Hillary ?

1andrew1 27-03-2017 21:00
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When Corbyn's more popular than you then it really is time to start thinking about hanging up the boots! For the record, I rate Trump over Corbyn.
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Corbyn 'almost as unpopular as Trump' in Britain, according to poll
Jeremy Corbyn is almost as unpopular as Donald Trump among the British public, according to pollsters GfK.
The majority of Britons think both men are doing a bad job, with 58% disapproving of the performance of Mr Corbyn as leader of the opposition and 60% disapproving of Mr Trump as US President.
Just 17% approve of Mr Corbyn's performance, while 18% approve of Mr Trump, the poll found.
http://news.sky.com/story/corbyn-alm...-poll-10815951

TheDaddy 28-03-2017 01:59
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35891983)
When Corbyn's more popular than you then it really is time to start thinking about hanging up the boots! For the record, I rate Trump over Corbyn.

http://news.sky.com/story/corbyn-alm...-poll-10815951

YAY

Trump wins the popularity poll again

Oh wait he never won that before, could've if he'd wanted to but decided against it, this one he wanted to win, he approves of the approval vote

Mr K 29-03-2017 20:43
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Trump border wall funding facing delay - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39434413
So the wall isn't happening, Obamacare staying and the arch criminal Hillary still at large. It's almost as if he'd never been elected.


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