Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36105588)

It would be so much easier if people were just nice but the world has massive numbers of horrid nasty (insert word of choice) so the vulnerable have to be protected

Most members here are not in that category and grew up in different times. Millennials however are caught in a Social Media trap where it becomes a very real addiction. They sit on their devices trying to "make an impact" and they thrive on likes in a very real way. Dopamine is released the very same neurotransmitter that causes addiction with gambling and alcohol. So when it all turns negative they literally go cold turkey and this leads to depression and sometimes sadly suicide. So something has to be done

It is very easy to sit in your* ivory towers and think there is not a problem. But you* are very very wrong

*not aimed at any individual

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36105589)

I say it’s a case of too many people thinking that just because they have an opinion about something they also have the right for it to be heard.

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36105591)

In one sense I agree Russ, but then again isn't that what 'free speech' encompasses?

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36105586)

I wonder just how they are going to make that work?

Will ISP's have to employ an army of people who's role and responsibility is to do nothing but trawl the internet looking for breaches of the 'new' rules?

It can't be even more algorithms thrown into computer programs that constantly scan web pages, because they just spot words and phrases, not intent or subtle innuendo.

No, it will still be people 'reporting' posts where they believe something now 'illegal' has been written, therefore a 'crime' has been committed hasn't it.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36105595)

I’m going to assume you actually mean hosting providers rather than ISP’s. I can’t see many T1 providers agreeing to do that. Especially as in many cases it would require SSL decryption.

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36105597)

No idea mate, I just took 'ISP' from the post by Richard.
You probably know more about the difficulties and pitfalls than I do :)

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36105299)

I also don't like the fact that 'free speech' has become the right to say anything offensive to anybody particularly from behind a keyboard.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36105573)

In addition, they believe that ISP's should be made more responsible for online harm prevention too.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36105600)

That's a bit like holding the Post Office accountable for the content of peoples letters.

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36105588)

It would be so much easier if people were just nice but the world has massive numbers of horrid nasty (insert word of choice) so the vulnerable have to be protected

Most members here are not in that category and grew up in different times. Millennials however are caught in a Social Media trap where it becomes a very real addiction. They sit on their devices trying to "make an impact" and they thrive on likes in a very real way. Dopamine is released the very same neurotransmitter that causes addiction with gambling and alcohol. So when it all turns negative they literally go cold turkey and this leads to depression and sometimes sadly suicide. So something has to be done

It is very easy to sit in your* ivory towers and think there is not a problem. But you* are very very wrong

*not aimed at any individual

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36105590)

It also has to be remembered that this is a UK law and applies only to UK firms or firms with UK asssets and/or UK based individuals.

Most are not, nor are based in other regions where the UK has any leverage. Such is the nature of the internet.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36105623)

What an excellent post- thank you. If more people took heed and were kind, understanding, empathetic and helpful, countless lives would become better for people all over the world. Instead, all too often, you get the attitude of 'Your disability is no excuse'! How attitudes would change should they or their loved one's suffer the same fate as others. It's likely to happen too, as the majority of people will become disabled due to attack, disease, accident or old age.

I was disappointed to see that I have again been criticised for the way that I have posted something, despite it being known that I have cognitive issues following a brain injury.

I wonder if a person with dementia would be criticised for repeatedly not remembering something or someone with a stutter mocked for the way that they interact?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36105623)

What an excellent post- thank you. If more people took heed and were kind, understanding, empathetic and helpful, countless lives would become better for people all over the world. Instead, all too often, you get the attitude of 'Your disability is no excuse'! How attitudes would change should they or their loved one's suffer the same fate as others. It's likely to happen too, as the majority of people will become disabled due to attack, disease, accident or old age.

I was disappointed to see that I have again been criticised for the way that I have posted something, despite it being known that I have cognitive issues following a brain injury.

I wonder if a person with dementia would be criticised for repeatedly not remembering something or someone with a stutter mocked for the way that they interact?

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I've no idea how Ofcom will deal with this, but to allow websites to flout the law via this method makes a mockery of the whole thing.

I am part of an advisory group and our submission to Ofcom did include examples of online bullying/harassment of disabled people on a site based outside the UK were included. We were told that details about this would be provided in due course.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36105623)

What an excellent post- thank you. If more people took heed and were kind, understanding, empathetic and helpful, countless lives would become better for people all over the world. Instead, all too often, you get the attitude of 'Your disability is no excuse'! How attitudes would change should they or their loved one's suffer the same fate as others. It's likely to happen too, as the majority of people will become disabled due to attack, disease, accident or old age.

I was disappointed to see that I have again been criticised for the way that I have posted something, despite it being known that I have cognitive issues following a brain injury.

I wonder if a person with dementia would be criticised for repeatedly not remembering something or someone with a stutter mocked for the way that they interact?

---------- Post added at 15:53 ---------- Previous post was at 15:39 ----------



I've no idea how Ofcom will deal with this, but to allow websites to flout the law via this method makes a mockery of the whole thing.

I am part of an advisory group and our submission to Ofcom did include examples of online bullying/harassment of disabled people on a site based outside the UK were included. We were told that details about this would be provided in due course.

Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36105630)

How many times have you had a go at people who work in overseas call centres? You call them all names under the sun on these forums. The reasons you get called out on for what you post is because of the hypocrisy in your posts.