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Taf 14-01-2019 15:09
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Fifty-five men arrested in West Yorkshire over child sex abuse
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-46867001

Russ 14-01-2019 15:19
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No doubt the surnames Williams, Jones, Smith and Thomas will be well reperesented in those 55...

nomadking 14-01-2019 15:28
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Not just the UK.

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The President of Finland has expressed his 'shock and disgust' after police identified more suspects in connection with a foreign grooming gang targeting children in a town in the north of the country.
Police suspect 16 foreign-born men of rape or other sexual abuses of girls aged between ten and 15 in Oulu, northern Finland, adding another four men to the investigation today.
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'It is unacceptable that some asylum seekers, and even those who have been granted asylum, have brought evil here and created insecurity.'
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Statistics Finland says around 1,200 cases of sexual abuse of minors are reported to the police each year, and that foreigners were involved in 18 percent of the cases that came to trial last year.

Taf 22-01-2019 09:11
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A gang of three man who groomed and raped a vulnerable schoolgirl in a horrific campaign of child sex abuse have been jailed for life.

Mohammed Karrar, Bassam Karrar and Anjum Dogar befriended the 'lonely, friendless' 14-year-old girl and began grooming their victim by taking her to parties and giving her alcohol and drugs before making demands for sexual acts.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...raped-her.html

RichardCoulter 22-01-2019 13:46
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It's not just under age girls that they take advantage of, but also the incapacitated.

I was recently in an Asian eatery and could hear what the waiters were saying to each other. They described how they would go into town after work and take advantage of girls under the influence of too much alcohol. They then went into intimate details of what they could get away with doing to them sexually, until I called over our waiter and had the situation dealt with.

To say they're supposed to be so against alcohol, they certainly know how to take advantage of its effects for their own ends.

mrmistoffelees 22-01-2019 13:50
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35980359)
It's not just under age girls that they take advantage of, but also the incapacitated.

I was recently in an Asian eatery and could hear what the waiters were saying to each other. They described how they would go into town after work and take advantage of girls under the influence of too much alcohol. They then went into intimate details of what they could get away with doing to them sexually, until I called over our waiter and had the situation dealt with.

To say they're supposed to be so against alcohol, they certainly know how to take advantage of its effects for their own ends.
I do hope you reported this to the police?

Hugh 22-01-2019 14:00
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35980359)
It's not just under age girls that they take advantage of, but also the incapacitated.

I was recently in an Asian eatery and could hear what the waiters were saying to each other. They described how they would go into town after work and take advantage of girls under the influence of too much alcohol. They then went into intimate details of what they could get away with doing to them sexually, until I called over our waiter and had the situation dealt with.

To say they're supposed to be so against alcohol, they certainly know how to take advantage of its effects for their own ends.
Richard, fyi, not all Asians* are Muslim - Hindus and Sikhs can (and do) drink alcohol.

btw, did you report these actions to the authorities?

*by "Asians", I assume you mean from the Indian sub-continent (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, & Bhutan), rather than including Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Brunei, Cambodia, China, Indonesia, Japan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Malaysia, Mongolia, North Korea, Philippines, Singapore, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam

Carth 22-01-2019 14:11
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An 'Asian eatery' could by definition be anything from a Kebab takeaway to a top class Chinese/Indian restaurant . . . or even a fish & chip shop nowadays ;)

RichardCoulter 22-01-2019 14:51
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35980362)
Richard, fyi, not all Asians* are Muslim - Hindus and Sikhs can (and do) drink alcohol.

btw, did you report these actions to the authorities?

*by "Asians", I assume you mean from the Indian sub-continent (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, & Bhutan), rather than including Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Brunei, Cambodia, China, Indonesia, Japan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Malaysia, Mongolia, North Korea, Philippines, Singapore, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam
Indeed. I've fallen into the same trap as calling them 'Asian', when Pakistani (or Muslim if appropriate). Whilst it's highly likely that they will be Muslims, I do know of a Pakistani Christian.

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An 'Asian eatery' could by definition be anything from a Kebab takeaway to a top class Chinese/Indian restaurant . . . or even a fish & chip shop nowadays ;)
True. It describes itself as an eatery, which I think is an American term.

Hugh 22-01-2019 15:34
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35980371)
Indeed. I've fallen into the same trap as calling them 'Asian', when Pakistani (or Muslim if appropriate). Whilst it's highly likely that they will be Muslims, I do know of a Pakistani Christian.

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True. It describes itself as an eatery, which I think is an American term.
Once, when working with one of the big 4 accountancy firms (they were the IT Delivery Partner working with us on a Data Warehouse programme), I employed one of their IT Consultants called Saul Judah, who was a Glaswegian* Catholic of South Indian descent - that often caused confusion after people who had been on a teleconference with him met him face-to-face... :)

*with a very broad Glasgow accent

Taf 22-01-2019 15:55
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35980362)
*by "Asians", I assume you mean from the Indian sub-continent (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, & Bhutan), rather than including Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Brunei, Cambodia, China, Indonesia, Japan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Malaysia, Mongolia, North Korea, Philippines, Singapore, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam
A lot of people from those countries no doubt lump us together as "Westerners".

But I would like reports to be more specific and use the correct country of (ethnic) origin of these foul rapists.

RichardCoulter 22-01-2019 15:58
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35980392)
A lot of people from those countries no doubt lump us together as "Westerners".

But I would like reports to be more specific and use the correct country of (ethnic) origin of these foul rapists.
Pakistanis usually refer to us as the 'Gura' (white).

RichardCoulter 24-01-2019 18:26
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Three more have been caught and accused of rape, attempted rape and sex with a child over 13:

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/...aping-14920214

One was an asylum seeker who tried to disrupt proceedings by claiming he was 17 and not 25 so he wouldn't be treated as an adult, but this was dismissed by the court.

You'd think that more respect would be shown to the people and laws of a country who had the decency to protect him from 'persecution'.

nomadking 24-01-2019 19:37
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35980392)
A lot of people from those countries no doubt lump us together as "Westerners".

But I would like reports to be more specific and use the correct country of (ethnic) origin of these foul rapists.
But only if it was people from a range of countries/religions/cultures. With all these cases the defining link isn't "Asian". The areas covered by continents is arbitrary in nature and just governed by geography. Eg Africans vary across that continent.


The defining link is Islam. That is the "bond" that allows them to operate. Other Muslims are unlikely to report them,


Before anybody tries to bring in the Catholic church yet again, a key difference is that it was the priests etc that were mainly participating. These "Asian" gangs involve just ordinary Muslims, and so it isn't a matter of protecting any religious institution/hierarchy.

Russ 04-02-2019 16:51
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Hmmm, I wonder...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...large-13951555


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