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devilincarnate 15-12-2011 20:13

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35346118)
Because it was used for X Factor voting

Try to be funny:erm: I will get my coat again.

zekeisaszekedoes 15-12-2011 20:26

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35345860)
YMMV Issue - was referring to Tivo generally not just iplayer, it is definitely NOT the finished product by a long stretch. Just go over the VM Support forum and catch the thread on those returning Tivo's

The thing is, several iterations of TiVo with various aspects of the bugginess/slowness that the VM TiVo has were released as allegedly "finished products" in the States. I guess that's why TiVo has never really taken off there, and why they barely turn a profit if they're lucky. Should have got us moany Brits on board earlier to pick holes in the design so that it might be improved. :)

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35345860)
Express Links - agree a good idea but badly implemented for several reasons one of which you mentioned namely user configurable; back to back padding implications also has to be addressed, it is worse than what the Sky box does on this, see http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...-O/td-p/913291

Yeah I don't like the wasteful two tuner approach with back-to-back shows either which is why I try to avoid padding, but I've noticed BBC Three are about three to five minutes behind schedule almost all the time, like it's being run by interns or something. At least that way the two (or more?) episodes are in their own contiguous files, even if both files have some crossover in terms of content (last five minutes of one is first five minutes of t'other).

The only way I can see to remedy that is to let the first recording over-run by the correct amount of padding, start the second one late by that amount of padding and then take the padding part of the first one and append it to the second one. Expecting the TiVo to remux files while also recording seems a little much at this stage though.

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35345860)
Overall I do like Tivo though so don't get me wrong here when I do criticize it. Just don't want VM to take their focus away from progressively improving it. 15.2 update can only be the start and it is not just about new features but improving what is there already.

Agree wholeheartedly, but Virgin Media have to serve two masters here - those who want refinements and those who want new features. Plus those in the middle of the two camps, like myself.

It's just a shame regular customers can't beta test and feedback directly to the developers... I'd be more than happy to document bugs and suggest features and I know I'm not alone there.

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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35346006)
I'm pretty sure that if you go to any support forum you'll get a skewed view as most of the people posting will be the ones with problems. You can't use a support forum as a basis of the quality of a product.

So true. It's easy to get this insular vision when a bunch of people in the same situation get together, distorting the facts between themselves so it appears that the problem is much more widespread than it actually is. Human psychology, eh?

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Back to the red button issue though, I can't see the TiVo app versions ever working as transparently as they do on the other STBs Virgin Media supports on it's network. To be fair to the American side of the development team, they don't have anything like that over in the States so doing something from scratch is a learning experience for them, plus testing must be a very protracted process.

Obviously being proved wrong on that point would be great, and the red button service will be flawless by this time next year.

Will21st 15-12-2011 20:58

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I love my TIVO.... :)

mhatter67 15-12-2011 22:02

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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35346006)
I'm pretty sure that if you go to any support forum you'll get a skewed view as most of the people posting will be the ones with problems. You can't use a support forum as a basis of the quality of a product.

Whatever the faults some people have with their TiVo box, it is not effecting demand, the engineer who installed my box on Tuesday said tivo install dates are now into February next year in the Luton area alone!

devilincarnate 15-12-2011 22:06

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Originally Posted by Will21st (Post 35346144)
I love my TIVO.... :)

I do as well as it has some good holes at the back of the box:erm:

pythagoras 15-12-2011 22:13

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346133)
It's just a shame regular customers can't beta test and feedback directly to the developers... I'd be more than happy to document bugs and suggest features and I know I'm not alone there.

Regular customers were invited to beta test and feedback directly to the developers. They were asked to volunteer at VM's community forum.

Regards

John

HD Boy 15-12-2011 22:16

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Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35346208)
Regular customers were invited to beta test and feedback directly to the developers. They were asked to volunteer at VM's community forum.

Regards

John

I hope there is a beta test next year and Virgin Media ask people to volunteer.

borrissey 15-12-2011 22:38

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35346123)
Try to be funny:erm: I will get my coat again.

With the the quality of your jokes I'm surprised your allowed back :)

HD Boy 15-12-2011 22:39

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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35346224)
With he the quality of your jokes I'm surprised you allowed back :)

Can you get a picture of Virgin Media TiVo slide remote which you " supposedly " got with your 2nd TiVo or were you lying ?

HD Boy 16-12-2011 09:22

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35345844)

There will not be an update as there isn't any planned for the near future.

Really ? because Nick O said there would be feature updates very soon after latest TiVo update
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I just hope to set expectations because it seems that a rumour has been heavily perpetuated on this board that there is one all encompassing update to come. In actuality, there will be a large update, but other feature updates will follow very soon after this update (as their introduction had the update itself as a dependency).
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../708349#M17554

The near future also means very soon .

denphone 16-12-2011 09:52

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346366)
Really ? because Nick O said there would be feature updates very soon after latest TiVo update
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../708349#M17554

The near future also means very soon .

I trust all Virgin Media staff members on this forum apart from one.

Well l trust them all.:tu:

HD Boy 16-12-2011 09:55

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Does anyone else think the HD picture quailty on the BBC iplayer has improved since the BBC iplayer app update.

I think it has.

Stephen 16-12-2011 10:04

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346366)
Really ? because Nick O said there would be feature updates very soon after latest TiVo update
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../708349#M17554

The near future also means very soon.

Feature updates are totally different to actual system updates.

HD Boy 16-12-2011 10:08

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35346375)
Feature updates are totally different to actual system updates.

I know never knew that.

Can you explain to me how they are different ?

Is just Features like MOD search for example ?

So a Feature update will come in january/Q1 2012.

denphone 16-12-2011 10:21

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346372)
Does anyone else think the HD picture quailty on the BBC iplayer has improved since the BBC iplayer app update.

I think it has.

Yes it has improved.

HD Boy 16-12-2011 10:23

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Have a look at this picture
http://cdn.electricpig.com.s3-extern...rs-580x326.jpg

I have noticed that in the picture of the search function results displays there is "Somebody to Love" by Justin Bieber which is a music video.

Stephen 16-12-2011 10:24

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346376)
I know never knew that.

Can you explain to me how they are different ?

Is just Features like MOD search for example ?

So a Feature update will come in january/Q1 2012.

I never said when it/they will come. Small feature updates don't require a full system update. They are smaller And quicker,

HD Boy 16-12-2011 10:28

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35346382)
I never said when it/they will come. Small feature updates don't require a full system update. They are smaller And quicker,

So in other words do not take 30 mins to update.


Well people have told about a update in january and someone else was told Q1 2012.

Well they likely actually mean it's a feature update.

spiderplant 16-12-2011 10:49

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346372)
Does anyone else think the HD picture quailty on the BBC iplayer has improved since the BBC iplayer app update.

There hasn't been an iplayer app update. A network problem was fixed.

HD Boy 16-12-2011 10:55

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35346391)
There hasn't been an iplayer app update. A network problem was fixed.

Thanks for the info.

Well for some reason HD picture quality has improved. Do you why ?

paultrademark 16-12-2011 10:58

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Gerald/HD Boy - I really think you need to step away from your computer now and then.

iPlayer now works fine for me, but HD looks the same IMO

denphone 16-12-2011 11:00

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346394)
Thanks for the info.

Well for some reason HD picture quality has improved. Do you why ?

Look its improved at the end of the day and people are happy with that so why ask another question as you have already asked about 50 this morning and the poor chaps must be exhausted by now and could do with a cup of tea or a nap.:sleep::sleep:

HD Boy 16-12-2011 11:03

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346396)
Look its improved at the end of the day and people are happy with that so why ask another question.

I was just wondering why a network problem fix improved the HD picture quality.

I guess you are right. End of.

borrissey 16-12-2011 12:13

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Child.

HD Boy 16-12-2011 12:17

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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35346409)
Child.

You should give us proof of the Virgin Media TiVo slide remote which you " supposedly " got with your 2nd TiVo or were you lying ?
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35341357

borrissey 16-12-2011 12:24

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I'm not going to post a picture on here I don't care if you believe me or not. But you must see that your very annoying.

HD Boy 16-12-2011 12:27

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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35346415)
I'm not going to post a picture on here I don't care if you believe me or not.

Well i do not believe you and no one else will unless you post a picture.

chrisjones 16-12-2011 12:35

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346418)
Well i do not believe you and no one else will unless you post a picture.

NO ONE believes him, simply put, he's lying.

I'm sorry, it your gonna go showing off how you got something from VM that nobody else seems to be getting, it stands to reason that people will want proof.

Liar liar, pants on fire!

HD Boy 16-12-2011 12:37

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Originally Posted by chrisjones (Post 35346424)
NO ONE believes him, simply put, he's lying.

I'm sorry, it your gonna go showing off how you got something from VM that nobody else seems to be getting, it stands to reason that people will want proof.

Liar liar, pants on fire!

100% agree :clap::clap:

zekeisaszekedoes 16-12-2011 13:06

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Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35346208)
Regular customers were invited to beta test and feedback directly to the developers. They were asked to volunteer at VM's community forum.

Regards

John

I did not know that. I should keep my eye out, because I'd love to get in on the 15.3 tests.


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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346226)
Can you get a picture of Virgin Media TiVo slide remote which you " supposedly " got with your 2nd TiVo or were you lying ?

You could just buy one from the USA, there's been a price drop recently. I added it up with my Amazon UK account, with international shipping it'd be about £39 all in.

My main concern would be buying one, it works well for a while, then with the release of 15.3 the code to use it is suddenly "dummied out". I'm sure the devs wouldn't do that, but who knows?

Stephen 16-12-2011 14:21

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Less of the bickering please.

dwarfofpoison 16-12-2011 14:28

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zekeisaszekedoes I'd hang on to your money, it's very doubtfull the US TiVo slide remote will work with the Virgin TiVo. The US slide remote uses a bluetooth conection a different animal to the Wi-Fi connection used here.

BenMcr 16-12-2011 14:33

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Originally Posted by dwarfofpoison (Post 35346462)
zekeisaszekedoes I'd hang on to your money, it's very doubtfull the US TiVo slide remote will work with the Virgin TiVo. The US slide remote uses a bluetooth conection a different animal to the Wi-Fi connection used here.

*cough*

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...de/td-p/871857

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Hi all, I purchased a Tivo slide remote before i had the tivo installed, and of course havent been able to use it, until this morning when the box upgraded to 15.2! Its working a treat, need to program it for the tv volume control and figure out why the power button turns the tivo on, but not off. No big deal. The keyboard makes using the search and youtube so much more pleasant. About time i say :-)

devilincarnate 16-12-2011 14:46

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35346463)
*cough*

Are you at the doctors Ben:D

zekeisaszekedoes 16-12-2011 14:51

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Cheers Ben, I read that post a little while ago but couldn't be bothered to go find it. It's what tempted me to consider the slide remote in the first place.

The fact it is wider but not as long would make it much more comfortable for those with small hands. Obviously the colour buttons are in the wrong order but AFAIK the red button functions will still be done with the leftmost one in the row. I could do away with the USB keyboard too, which I like as a means to manage links and type search text but is a bit cumbersome for regular use.

We're quite lucky, as since the upgrade the TiVo can be controlled in more than one way. Here's the full list as I know it:
  • Regular VM-branded long remote
  • US TiVo Bluetooth slide remote with keyboard
  • Regular USB keyboard or PS/2 keyboard with USB adapter
  • TiVo Commander Android app
  • Modified version of official US TiVo iPad/iPhone app
  • Simple "Peanut" remote iPhone app
  • Windows "VM TiVo Net Remote" beta, written by Andy Wheeler

Stephen 16-12-2011 14:57

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Originally Posted by dwarfofpoison (Post 35346462)
zekeisaszekedoes I'd hang on to your money, it's very doubtfull the US TiVo slide remote will work with the Virgin TiVo. The US slide remote uses a bluetooth conection a different animal to the Wi-Fi connection used here.

It does work as the remote comes with a small USB Bluetooth reciever that plugs in to the back of the TiVo. Also TiVo on VM doesn't have WiFi either. It connects by ethernet to your router.

HD Boy 16-12-2011 15:01

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346437)
You could just buy one from the USA, there's been a price drop recently. I added it up with my Amazon UK account, with international shipping it'd be about £39 all in.

I will do that. It is £38.72 to be precise at the moment :D

zekeisaszekedoes 16-12-2011 15:07

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It was £38.85 when I checked, which is why I rounded up to £39. Exchange rates aren't static.

jobbie8 16-12-2011 16:34

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My confindence in Tivo has grown since the update. I let Tivo find other TV shows instead of clipping, its nice and fast and the picture quallity is much better. Its really starting to take off, roll on next years updates.

At the moment I'm watching the full 2hr+ version of It's A Wonderful Life, (colour/hd) version on YouTube. found it via search on the main home page. Picture is superb and the app has'nt stopped or stuttered once.

ozsat 16-12-2011 16:49

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35346475)
It does work as the remote comes with a small USB Bluetooth reciever that plugs in to the back of the TiVo. Also TiVo on VM doesn't have WiFi either. It connects by ethernet to your router.

Best to say that VM does NOT support the slide remote so if doesn't work on your box or it stops working - then VM will not help.

But it currently works just fine - and enables you to use different remotes for two TiVo in the same room.

A couple of buttons are missing from the slide remote - and the R G B Y buttons do not operate to the colours expecxted - but not a serious issue.

And it has a backlight.

BenMcr 16-12-2011 17:03

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35346475)
Also TiVo on VM doesn't have WiFi either. It connects by ethernet to your router.

TiVo in the US doesn't have WiFi either - over there TiVo sell a Ethernet to WiFi bridge adapter which needs to be powered seperately

Kingofthedead4 16-12-2011 17:05

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I know this has been asked before, but do virgin sell a keyboard control for TiVo?

devilincarnate 16-12-2011 17:08

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Originally Posted by Kingofthedead4 (Post 35346566)
I know this has been asked before, but do virgin sell a keyboard control for TiVo?

Plain and simple "NO"

Kingofthedead4 16-12-2011 17:09

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Thank you.

kgollop 16-12-2011 20:52

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346473)
Cheers Ben, I read that post a little while ago but couldn't be bothered to go find it. It's what tempted me to consider the slide remote in the first place.

The fact it is wider but not as long would make it much more comfortable for those with small hands. Obviously the colour buttons are in the wrong order but AFAIK the red button functions will still be done with the leftmost one in the row. I could do away with the USB keyboard too, which I like as a means to manage links and type search text but is a bit cumbersome for regular use.

We're quite lucky, as since the upgrade the TiVo can be controlled in more than one way. Here's the full list as I know it:
  • Regular VM-branded long remote
  • US TiVo Bluetooth slide remote with keyboard
  • Regular USB keyboard or PS/2 keyboard with USB adapter
  • TiVo Commander Android app
  • Modified version of official US TiVo iPad/iPhone app
  • Simple "Peanut" remote iPhone app
  • Windows "VM TiVo Net Remote" beta, written by Andy Wheeler

Worth pointing out, that if you are using Andy Wheeler's app then you can use your PC/laptop keyboard for text entry :tu:

george.bailey 16-12-2011 22:55

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Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 35346681)
Worth pointing out, that if you are using Andy Wheeler's app then you can use your PC/laptop keyboard for text entry :tu:

It's worth me trying it just for that! How do you do text entry on it?

dwarfofpoison 17-12-2011 02:00

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Originally Posted by dwarfofpoison (Post 35346462)
zekeisaszekedoes I'd hang on to your money, it's very doubtfull the US TiVo slide remote will work with the Virgin TiVo. The US slide remote uses a bluetooth conection a different animal to the Wi-Fi connection used here.

Sorry, seems I've gotten myself involved with a subject I clearly knew nothing about.

I'll try not to let my misguided thoughts get out of control!

kgollop 17-12-2011 09:54

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Originally Posted by george.bailey (Post 35346765)
It's worth me trying it just for that! How do you do text entry on it?

Just run the app and connect to your TIVO (make sure you've enabled network remote control on the TIVO), and when you have a text entry box on screen (I've tried it in the main search) then you can just use the laptop keyboard to type. You don't need to do anything special. You can also use up/down, left/right arrows and the enter key to navigate the menus which is a bit quicker for me.

http://www.andypwheeler.pwp.blueyond...uk/tivoremote/

HD Boy 17-12-2011 11:23

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If anyone is interested the 3 new channels now have channel logos in TV Guide and Mini Guide.

Also in the discovery bar it's says " are you having problems with Youtube " if you press on it it goes to the Old Youtube app. It does not appear in the discovery bar that often.

borrissey 17-12-2011 19:04

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Is it possible to connect my TiVO box to my tv and Cinema amp?

philwhite100 17-12-2011 19:38

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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35347121)
Is it possible to connect my TiVO box to my tv and Cinema amp?

Can you be a little bit clearer please. When you say connect it to your TV i assume you mean for separate audio as this will normally be done via the HDMI cable.

I have my V+ box connected to the cinema system via the Optical cable.

borrissey 17-12-2011 19:57

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Originally Posted by philwhite100 (Post 35347151)
Can you be a little bit clearer please. When you say connect it to your TV i assume you mean for separate audio as this will normally be done via the HDMI cable.

I have my V+ box connected to the cinema system via the Optical cable.


Sorry.

At the moment I've got my Tivo box running to my cinema system via HDMI. Can I run an optical lead straight into the back of my TV also from my TiVO?

philwhite100 17-12-2011 20:02

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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35347163)
Sorry.

At the moment I've got my Tivo box running to my cinema system via HDMI. Can I run an optical lead straight into the back of my TV also from my TiVO?

Possibe i suppose assuming your TV supports this connectivity.

passingbat 17-12-2011 20:38

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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35347163)
Sorry.

At the moment I've got my Tivo box running to my cinema system via HDMI. Can I run an optical lead straight into the back of my TV also from my TiVO?

Don't understand why you would want to.

If the tivo is connected via HDMI to your amp, the normal thing to do is connect the amp output to the TV via HDMI

Unless you want to get sound from the TV without using the amp? Some AV amps have HDMI pass through, which wil do that. mine doesn't but I always have the amp on anyway; why not have good quality sound all the time?

borrissey 17-12-2011 23:26

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35347186)
Don't understand why you would want to.

If the tivo is connected via HDMI to your amp, the normal thing to do is connect the amp output to the TV via HDMI

Unless you want to get sound from the TV without using the amp? Some AV amps have HDMI pass through, which wil do that. mine doesn't but I always have the amp on anyway; why not have good quality sound all the time?

Yep sound without using the amp when I'm watching SD normal TV and can turn amp off.

How do I know if my amp has HDMI pass through. It's a Yamaha RX V1900.

pythagoras 17-12-2011 23:36

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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35347246)
Yep sound without using the amp when I'm watching SD normal TV and can turn amp off.

How do I know if my amp has HDMI pass through. It's a Yamaha RX V1900.

Switch the amp into standby and see if you still get picture and sound on the TV.

Regards

John

passingbat 18-12-2011 10:29

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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35347246)
.

How do I know if my amp has HDMI pass through. It's a Yamaha RX V1900.

It doesn't ----- I have the same amp. I think passthrough came in from the model that replaced it (2065), or the next one (2067).

HD Boy 18-12-2011 15:54

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I am hoping this happens sooner rather than later IMO
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Virgin will potentially face the same issues as they go from using the legacy delivery system of VOD (streaming MPEG 2), to using TiVo's broadband connection (streaming MPEG 4) to provide content from other on-demand providers like 4oD, Demand Five and Warner.
http://virgintivo.blogspot.com/2011/...-affected.html

andy_m 18-12-2011 16:13

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347436)
I am hoping this happens sooner rather than later IMO
http://virgintivo.blogspot.com/2011/...-affected.html

Why, if its likely to result in teething problems?

I'd rather Virgin took their time to learn the lessons of the 15.2/I Player issues first.

HD Boy 18-12-2011 16:22

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35347441)
Why,

because on demand will not use a tuner.

andy_m 18-12-2011 16:23

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Fair point.

Jameseh 18-12-2011 17:48

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347445)
because on demand will not use a tuner.

How many times do you need to record three things and watch something on demand at the same time?

denphone 18-12-2011 17:51

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35347460)
How many times do you need to record three things and watch something on demand at the same time?

Not many James from my experience.:)

HD Boy 18-12-2011 17:53

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35347460)
How many times do you need to record three things and watch something on demand at the same time?

Well at least it will give people the option to do it.

Jameseh 18-12-2011 17:54

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The only time I've seen 3 being used is recording the football in HD and the box recommending the same football in SD.

denphone 18-12-2011 17:55

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35347464)
The only time I've seen 3 being used is recording the football in HD and the box recommending the same football in SD.

exactly.

HD Boy 18-12-2011 17:56

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35347464)
The only time I've seen 3 being used is recording the football in HD and the box recommending the same football in SD.

My box is using all three tuners at the moment and also none of them are suggestions.

Edit: It will go down to 2 tuners in 2 mins.

mhatter67 18-12-2011 18:10

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35347460)
How many times do you need to record three things and watch something on demand at the same time?

I must admit with the size of the hard drive, express series links and searches, I have enough programes to watch until the new year and I only had TiVo install on Tuesday:D

Have to laugh on the banner recommendations on the home page, I have created a series link for Wacky Races you have got to love Penelope Pitstop;):D

denphone 18-12-2011 18:11

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Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35347472)
I must admit with the size of the hard drive, express series links and searches, I have enough programes to watch until the new year and I only had TiVo install on Tuesday:D

Have to laugh on the banner recommendations on the home page, I have created a series link for Wacky Races you have got to love Penelope Pitstop;):D

Yes l have been recording that and wonderful it is too.:D:D

mhatter67 18-12-2011 18:30

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35347473)
Yes l have been recording that and wonderful it is too.:D:D

If Dick Dastardly ever played it straight he would win ever race with his rocket car:D:D

denphone 18-12-2011 18:37

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Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35347481)
If Dick Dastardly ever played it straight he would win ever race with his rocket car:D:D

Most definitely and don't forget his sidekick Muttley.:D:D

HD Boy 18-12-2011 20:16

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I have heard from a good source that it won't be at the north pole for much longer. It is due for launch sooner than you think :)
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../919409#M37345

We will soon know if that turns out to be true.

denphone 18-12-2011 20:19

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347540)
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../919409#M37345

We will soon know if that turns out to be true.

Just be patient and it will arrive before you know it.

devilincarnate 18-12-2011 20:50

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Looking at this thread now we all seem to be regressing back to our childhoods, Something that I'am against.

fixerman 18-12-2011 22:50

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35347555)
Looking at this thread now we all seem to be regressing back to our childhoods, Something that I'am against.

Off topic or what? Still it's that time of year! Good luck to all!:xmas:

Joedm45 18-12-2011 22:55

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I've got a bit of a long query and was wondering if anyone had a workaround for it, here goes...

I was checking the EPG earlier to see what was on TV over Christmas. Saw something I wanted to record on saturday so hit the button and a warning came up. I can't remember the exact wording as it was a full SD page with a paragraph of text but it was along the lines of 'this will not record as you do not have enough disk space' it also mentioned that this could be due to series links being set to 'until I delete' and to change this setting to free up space. The outcome was that the show did not get marked as to be recorded. My TiVo is currently about 60% full (1TB version)

I recently changed all 50 odd series links/wishlists to keep 'until I delete' from 'until space needed' as I was getting annoyed that shows were being auto deleted before I could watch them even though my TiVo has never been more than 75% full.

My only guess why this warning comes up and the show will not record is that TiVo assumes that you will not delete anything in my shows between now and when the show is to be recorded and by the time that day comes along it will be full with all the planned recordings before then. I hope that makes sense.

My first port of call was to go into planned recordings and start deleting shows that I wasn't too fussed about. Tried recording the show again and it worked but with yet another error message pointing out that another show on the following day will not record due to disk space.

Sorry for the long story but has anyone seen this before and know a way around it? I've got a feeling its one of those TiVo quirks but thought I'd ask anyway.

Cheers

zantarous 18-12-2011 23:05

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Well the message is pretty self explanatory, although i am sure when I got the message there is a option that says record anyway.

Joedm45 18-12-2011 23:08

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Pretty sure I didn't get that message otherwise I wouldn't have seen it as a problem.

spiderplant 18-12-2011 23:34

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35347633)
although i am sure when I got the message there is a option that says record anyway.

It can't record anyway if all existing or earlier recordings are marked "keep until I delete". That takes precedence over new recordings.

The solution is to only use KUID on things you really don't want deleting. Otherwise, let TiVo manage the space.

zantarous 19-12-2011 00:37

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But doesn't it say may not record but you can still set it?

batchain 19-12-2011 02:20

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...s-6279150.html

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Virgin Media is promising TV subscribers that they will be able to use new apps from BBC Sport and News to watch interactive programming for the first time next year.

Under the terms of the deal with the BBC, subscribers of Virgin's TiVo interactive TV service will use "red-button" technology on the remote control. It will mean viewers can watch a live event with multiple video streams, as well as accessing other interactive and catch-up content from BBC Online.

The forthcoming BBC Sport app, which has yet to launch, is set to carry extra live programming from the Olympics, Euro 2012, Wimbledon and Formula One.

Unlike Sky, Virgin is an "open" platform, which means the BBC apps will be integrated into the main TiVo menu.


denphone 19-12-2011 07:35

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Sounds very good'

andy_m 19-12-2011 08:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35347629)
I've got a bit of a long query and was wondering if anyone had a workaround for it, here goes...

I was checking the EPG earlier to see what was on TV over Christmas. Saw something I wanted to record on saturday so hit the button and a warning came up. I can't remember the exact wording as it was a full SD page with a paragraph of text but it was along the lines of 'this will not record as you do not have enough disk space' it also mentioned that this could be due to series links being set to 'until I delete' and to change this setting to free up space. The outcome was that the show did not get marked as to be recorded. My TiVo is currently about 60% full (1TB version)

I recently changed all 50 odd series links/wishlists to keep 'until I delete' from 'until space needed' as I was getting annoyed that shows were being auto deleted before I could watch them even though my TiVo has never been more than 75% full.

My only guess why this warning comes up and the show will not record is that TiVo assumes that you will not delete anything in my shows between now and when the show is to be recorded and by the time that day comes along it will be full with all the planned recordings before then. I hope that makes sense.

My first port of call was to go into planned recordings and start deleting shows that I wasn't too fussed about. Tried recording the show again and it worked but with yet another error message pointing out that another show on the following day will not record due to disk space.

Sorry for the long story but has anyone seen this before and know a way around it? I've got a feeling its one of those TiVo quirks but thought I'd ask anyway.

Cheers

There's nothing there to worry about as long as you are actually watching the stuff in my shows and deleting as you go. You're right that the message means "if you delete nothing then by the time this program comes along the disk will be full" I keep everything I record until I delete and I get that message a lot but haven't yet had a problem, but then most of what I watch is from my shows so I'm regularly deleting stuff as well.

I like to keep some series and watch them in big chunks, like box sets, and I've got other things, like the complete Porridge, which is a go to folder when there's not much else on, which is why I want to be in charge of deleting, rather than leaving it to Tivo.

spiderplant 19-12-2011 10:12

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35347675)
But doesn't it say may not record but you can still set it?

I think there are two different cases. One where it lets you record and one where it doesn't.

BenMcr 19-12-2011 10:57

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Originally Posted by batchain (Post 35347684)

Also on The Guardian too http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ia-sports-deal

denphone 19-12-2011 11:09

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35347742)

Its will just make the Tivo better then it already is and the must have STB of 2012 and beyond.

mhatter67 19-12-2011 11:13

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Just a quick point to VM, you need in the new year to remove channel 555 from the EPG as it could potentially confuse people that their live purchased event will start soon on this channel!

Thanks Spiderplant for telling me on this forum that this channel is now redundant after the 15.2 update!

HD Boy 19-12-2011 12:11

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Here is the press release

http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/S...TiVo-2311.aspx

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Originally Posted by VM Press Release
A New Deal will bring BBC’s ‘enhanced Red Button’ TV services to Virgin Media TiVo, and paves way for rich, interactive news and sport coverage in 2012
BBC Sport app and BBC News app to launch on Virgin Media TiVo

Virgin Media and the BBC today announced a new deal that will bring next-generation BBC TV services to the Virgin Media TiVo® Service in 2012, continuing the successful partnership which saw BBC iPlayer launch on its first TV platform.

The BBC and Virgin Media will now begin to develop new applications and user experiences for TiVo homes - paving the way for Virgin Media customers to gain access to the BBC’s interactive coverage of next year’s major sporting events via a brand new Red Button experience, including Formula 1, Wimbledon, Euro 2012 and the London 2012 Olympics.

A forthcoming BBC Sport app will build on these “enhanced Red Button” services to bring next-generation viewing experiences to connected TVs in 2012. The new app will bring together all the live streams from the BBC’s existing Red Button service, video streams on-demand and additional content from BBC Online - providing a next-generation TV experience of Wimbledon, Formula 1, Euro 2012 and London 2012.

The BBC Sport app will sit alongside the BBC’s existing BBC News and BBC iPlayer apps.

The partnership between Virgin Media and the BBC has already delivered full integration of BBC iPlayer into Virgin Media’s TiVo Service. BBC catch-up programmes are now even easier to access through the search, menus, and EPG, made possible by the openness and flexibility of the TiVo platform.

The award-winning BBC News app, which brings together the best of BBC News on TV and online in an on-demand service will launch on Virgin Media TiVo. Accessible via the Red Button and the Virgin Media TiVo ‘Apps and Games’ section, it is expected to launch in the first quarter of next year

Jane Weedon, Controller of Business Development, BBC Future Media said: “With its pioneering BBC iPlayer service now available on more than 300 different internet-connected TV devices, the BBC has successfully taken catch-up TV beyond the PC and into the living room.

“Having partnered with Virgin Media to bring BBC iPlayer to TV back in 2008, we have since brought a vastly-improved, fully-integrated experience of BBC iPlayer to Virgin Media’s TiVo Service. With the addition of the BBC News app and enhanced BBC Sport services – all accessible via the Red Button – we plan to build on this partnership and continue to innovate in connected TV through 2012.”

Cindy Rose, executive director of digital entertainment at Virgin Media, said: “Our innovative new TiVo service offers a whole world of catch-up, on demand, HD, 3D and live TV content and we’re delighted to be adding the BBC’s next generation News and Sport services to the line-up.

“2012 promises to be an unforgettable year for UK viewers and our customers can look forward to every minute of it. We’re pleased to be partnering with the BBC to make even more of their content available on what is the UK’s most advanced TV platform.”

This sounds great :)

denphone 19-12-2011 12:36

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Well 2011 was exciting and it looks like 2012 will bring more excellent additions and user experiences for us Tivo customers.

HD Boy 19-12-2011 13:11

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I have noticed it says BBC Sport app is Forthcoming which means about to appear.

denphone 19-12-2011 13:17

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347804)
I have noticed it says BBC Sport app is Forthcoming which means about to appear.

It will appear in the next few months as Forthcoming entails when it is available and ready meaning it could be 3 months before we get it.

HD Boy 19-12-2011 13:19

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35347805)
It will appear in the next few months as Forthcoming entails when it is available meaning it could be 3 months before we get it.

A good birthday present for me :) ( My birthday is in March)

borrissey 19-12-2011 13:28

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35347333)
It doesn't ----- I have the same amp. I think passthrough came in from the model that replaced it (2065), or the next one (2067).

Yeah it's a shame great amp though.

HD Boy 19-12-2011 14:27

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Originally Posted by batchain (Post 35347684)

I have noticed it says
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Unlike Sky, Virgin is an "open" platform, which means the BBC apps will be integrated into the main TiVo menu.
Does anyone know what the part in bold means ?

denphone 19-12-2011 14:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347862)
I have noticed it says

Does anyone know what the part in bold means ?

As it says its does what it says on the tin.:)

Digital Fanatic 19-12-2011 15:24

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347862)
I have noticed it says

Does anyone know what the part in bold means ?

It means it's not a walled garden as the Apps can use the TiVo 10mb connection to function.

HD Boy 19-12-2011 15:27

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35347897)
It means it's not a walled garden as the Apps can use the TiVo 10mb connection to function.

Thanks DF.

There will be no need for the Weather app on TiVo IMO when the BBC apps come.

Doug P 19-12-2011 15:29

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Keep it!

HD Boy 19-12-2011 15:54

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35347897)
It means it's not a walled garden as the Apps can use the TiVo 10mb connection to function.

Am i right in saying The new BBC apps will be future proofed against the changes the BBC are making to their Red Button services

BenMcr 19-12-2011 16:14

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Well as it's the BBC that are writing them I would assume so


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