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OLD BOY 31-10-2025 16:45

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36205644)
I get quite mad about the number of meerkats, opera singers, drumming gorillas, knitted monkeys, and good looking people in adverts…

Yes, but you always were a bit weird, Hugh.

Hugh 31-10-2025 17:03

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Yes, but you always were a bit weird, Hugh.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1761926566

Carth 31-10-2025 17:34

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:D

thenry 31-10-2025 21:14

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Oh god not SnoopZ. He owes me £6.

Mr K 01-11-2025 17:20

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A Reform UK councillor has defected to the Conservatives, saying he became uncomfortable in Nigel Farage’s party.

James Buchan, who sits in the borough of Dartford in Kent, said he had struggled with the idea of facing his relatives while a member of a party whose anti-immigration policies spread fear.

I stood for election with the sole aim of working for my community and getting things done for local families. Having had the opportunity to see Reform from the inside, I’ve concluded that the party doesn’t really have the experience or ambition to do that,” he said.

Buchan said he wanted to be able to “look my family in the eye and say, ‘that’s not who I am’” after Nigel Farage’s party announced plans to end indefinite leave to remain status.

He said “relying on rhetoric and slogans isn’t going to help real families in communities” such as his and “the more I saw of Reform UK, the more uncomfortable I felt to be part of it”.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-uncomfortable

When people see Reform 'in action' , and what they stand for, they'll be coming to the same conclusion as this councillor.

OLD BOY 01-11-2025 18:03

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36205714)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-uncomfortable

When people see Reform 'in action' , and what they stand for, they'll be coming to the same conclusion as this councillor.

I doubt that, Mr K. Reform UK has made no secret about what it stands for, and for the time being at least, they have massive public backing.

How this particular MP could not have known about Reform’s intentions when he joined, I cannot imagine.

He’s clearly a Conservative ‘wet’ but he’s unlikely to be elected as a Conservative. They, like Labour, are dead in the water, behind even the ludicrous Greens in the polls.

Damien 01-11-2025 20:41

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36205714)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-uncomfortable

When people see Reform 'in action' , and what they stand for, they'll be coming to the same conclusion as this councillor.

What did he think he was joining? :rolleyes:

Sephiroth 01-11-2025 21:53

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Sort of following OB's line of thought (though I'm still a paid up Conservative), the goings on are what is happening to some extent in Europe - albeit in the UK the economy, taxes and immigration are the important issues with the people.

At present, it's "anyone but the Tories and Labour". Now Reform UK need to to become credible so that it doesn't let the blind masses down.

And, Farage is not a Fascist.


Hugh 01-11-2025 22:04

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And, Farage is not a Fascist.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks

Mr K 02-11-2025 10:47

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36205719)
And, Farage is not a Fascist.

https://www.onlondon.co.uk/nigel-far...ours-compared/

A comparison between Farage and Oswald Mosely. Interesting.

Hugh 02-11-2025 13:23

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https://www.eastleighnews.co.uk/2025...lley-ai-image/

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The Reform UK Hamble Valley branch is facing questions after a post describing Reform UK supporters as “real people” turned out to feature AI-generated fakes.

The image, showing a smiling group of twelve people posed beside a marina, appeared on the branch’s About page under the heading “Real People – Not Career Politicians.” It was later highlighted by the verified X (formerly Twitter) account Insane Moments in British Politics, which noted that the people in the picture do not appear to be real.

Another X user replying to the post, which has been viewed more than 25,000 times, also claimed that “the entire website seems to be AI-generated,” referring to other images on the site that appear to have been created synthetically or borrowed from elsewhere.

Analysis by Eastleigh News found that several photographs on the website, including images of lorries on Hamble Lane and scenes purporting to show antisocial behaviour, display visual anomalies characteristic of computer-generated imagery. Other pictures, such as press photographs from Getty Images and the White House, appear to have been used without attribution...

… Eastleigh News reached out to the Hamble Valley branch for comment, but our enquiry was forwarded by the branch to the Reform UK press office and no response had been received by the time of publication.

However, by Tuesday afternoon, the branch website had been taken offline and replaced with a “maintenance mode” holding page.

jem 02-11-2025 20:10

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36205731)
https://www.onlondon.co.uk/nigel-far...ours-compared/

A comparison between Farage and Oswald Mosely. Interesting.

Not really, it’s a set of cherry-picked suggestions. They could equally have added ‘just like Mosely, Farage has two arms and legs but only one head...!!!!’

Look hard enough and you could find equally compelling ‘arguments’ comparing, oh Karl Marx to Hitler!

Look before you all wade in with accusations that I’m deeply in the Reform camp, no. The man is doing the usual technique of the populist, it’s all the fault of <insert group of choice here>, ie offering simple solutions to what are actually complex problems.

And that never works!

Sephiroth 02-11-2025 21:10

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36205731)
https://www.onlondon.co.uk/nigel-far...ours-compared/

A comparison between Farage and Oswald Mosely. Interesting.

That article is a disgrace. It's full of stuff about Moseley's brutal attitude towards Jews and some of the horrific acts perpetrated by his Black-shirts.

Nothing to link Farage to any of this. There has never been any vitriol from Farage. Moseley was the opposite.

Mr K 02-11-2025 21:15

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Originally Posted by jem (Post 36205783)
Not really, it’s a set of cherry-picked suggestions. They could equally have added ‘just like Mosely, Farage has two arms and legs but only one head...!!!!’

Look hard enough and you could find equally compelling ‘arguments’ comparing, oh Karl Marx to Hitler!

Look before you all wade in with accusations that I’m deeply in the Reform camp, no. The man is doing the usual technique of the populist, it’s all the fault of <insert group of choice here>, ie offering simple solutions to what are actually complex problems.

And that never works!

Have a look at Kent CC where Reform have power, and see what's happened. I'm hoping Reform get lot more power before the next general election, so they can be exposed as the frauds and talentless rabble they are. Otherwise, as with Brexit, the electorate will find out the hard irretrievable way.

Damien 04-11-2025 13:02

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I don't think they'll stick with this come election time, but I'll give them some credit for saying it now.

The triple lock isn't sustainable. At some point, a government will have to admit that and remove it, even if it costs them the election. You can't have this massively expensive outlay grow at the highest possible rate each year; it will become an ever-larger part of the budget over time.


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