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Sephiroth 10-04-2025 21:59
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36194431)
The police can't be everywhere 24/7, so it's not going to make much difference. Even in busy areas with lots of people around, it's only by chance they might be in the right place at the right time to prevent a crime or catch somebody.
They used to be everywhere 24/7 if you know what I mean.
I lived in Willesden when I was young/teen. A police car, a noddy bike, a panda car, a foot patrol - all regularly seen in the residential streets.

nomadking 10-04-2025 22:03
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36194440)
They used to be everywhere 24/7 if you know what I mean.
I lived in Willesden when I was young/teen. A police car, a noddy bike, a panda car, a foot patrol - all regularly seen in the residential streets.
But did that stop any crime?

Russ 10-04-2025 22:04
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36194440)
They used to be everywhere 24/7 if you know what I mean.
I lived in Willesden when I was young/teen. A police car, a noddy bike, a panda car, a foot patrol - all regularly seen in the residential streets.
In fairness as the population increases the number of police has not proportionally gone up, this would apply especially in the bigger cities..

1andrew1 10-04-2025 22:10
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36194442)
In fairness as the population increases the number of police has not proportionally gone up, this would apply especially in the bigger cities..
Some northern cities like Liverpool have declined significantly in population size. It's on its way back up though.

Pierre 10-04-2025 23:06
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36194404)
Jess Phillips’ approach to the investigations in to the child grooming gangs is nothing short of diabolical.
On that, we are in total agreement.

But will she be held to account?

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36194431)
The police can't be everywhere 24/7, so it's not going to make much difference. Even in busy areas with lots of people around, it's only by chance they might be in the right place at the right time to prevent a crime or catch somebody.
The police stopped being a “crime prevention” or “deterrence” a long, long time ago.

They are, in the main, just another NGO, accountable to themselves only.

No longer public servants, or to serve the public.

Paul 10-04-2025 23:12
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36194447)
The police stopped being a “crime prevention” or “deterrence” a long, long time ago.
Perhaps because being caught has little consequence now.

Russ 11-04-2025 11:23
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36194447)
On that, we are in total agreement.

But will she be held to account?
Not in a million years. I have never liked or trusted Jess Phillips. I acknowledge the need for equality, no problems there but her eagerness for push-back against who she considers “privileged” is extremely destructive towards ordinary decent people who have the misfortune of falling in to the categories she enjoys pushing back against.

Pierre 16-04-2025 22:01
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New guidance on what your not allowed to bring into Britain from the EU.

https://news.sky.com/story/the-produ...rules-13350057

Sir Kier will be relieved to know there is no limit on men of fighting age from North Africa and the Middle East..

1andrew1 17-04-2025 14:20
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36194799)
New guidance on what your not allowed to bring into Britain from the EU.

https://news.sky.com/story/the-produ...rules-13350057

Sir Kier will be relieved to know there is no limit on men of fighting age from North Africa and the Middle East..
Why would he be relieved?

papa smurf 17-04-2025 15:34
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36194831)
Why would he be relieved?
He keeps bringing them in

1andrew1 17-04-2025 17:13
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36194833)
He keeps bringing them in
I don't think so, they're quite capable of doing that themselves. But he may have found a way to return people to France, helping deter human traffickers and migrants.
Quote:
The British and French governments are in talks about a migrant returns agreement that would involve one person being deported from the UK in exchange for France sending another individual the other way, amid hopes the arrangement could be expanded into a broader European initiative.

British and French officials are in early discussions about a pilot scheme under which a small number of irregular migrants who come across the English Channel to the UK would be sent back to France.

British officials said the UK would look to accept from France a limited number of migrants who have a right to be in Britain, notably those with a legitimate case for family reunification.

France is willing to test such a scheme, despite its long-standing preference for an EU-wide arrangement, because it believes a returns agreement would deter human traffickers and migrants.
https://www.ft.com/content/f40a6263-...2-25861525b2ab

Pierre 17-04-2025 21:23
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36194834)
I don't think so, they're quite capable of doing that themselves. But he may have found a way to return people to France, helping deter human traffickers and migrants.

https://www.ft.com/content/f40a6263-...2-25861525b2ab
You still aiming for that gig on Live at the Apollo?

Because you’ve never been funnier.

1andrew1 17-04-2025 21:38
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36194847)
You still aiming for that gig on Live at the Apollo?

Because you’ve never been funnier.
I was planning on starting as your warm-up act in Edinburgh first. ;)

OLD BOY 20-04-2025 03:29
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36194834)
I don't think so, they're quite capable of doing that themselves. But he may have found a way to return people to France, helping deter human traffickers and migrants.

https://www.ft.com/content/f40a6263-...2-25861525b2ab
It’s a shame that France provides life jackets for these illegal immigrants to Britain. What the hell are we paying the French for?

TheDaddy 20-04-2025 12:20
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36194956)
It’s a shame that France provides life jackets for these illegal immigrants to Britain. What the hell are we paying the French for?
Yeah far better they die, something else for you to cry about, once they're safely ashore the French ask for the life jackets back, presumably so they can give them to more immigrants


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