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OLD BOY 06-09-2019 13:18

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36009031)
I don't really have a problem with a sitting MP resigning from their party and remaining MP as our system elects the person not the party (even if that's not the way people vote it is the system). But they should then remain an Independent until another election not move to an opposing party.

I guess the "opposing party" wouldn't want someone unless they bought a seat with them.

What is wrong with an MP moving to an opposing party if the MP determines that this would better enable them to pursue the policies on which they were elected? As you correctly state, the electorate votes for the MP, not the party.

Pierre 18-09-2019 21:18

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Seems Labour student body isn’t left wing enough for momentum.

http://news.sky.com/story/move-to-re...rence-11813261

Bolsheviks only, need apply.

pip08456 18-09-2019 21:25

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36010700)
Seems Labour student body isn’t left wing enough for momentum.

http://news.sky.com/story/move-to-re...rence-11813261

Bolsheviks only, need apply.

It would appear so.

Quote:

Labour Students, which is generally seen as having taken a more centrist line since Mr Corbyn became leader, rejected claims it had not paid its affiliation fees on time.

Chris 18-09-2019 21:38

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Looks like a good old fashioned purge ...

Damien 19-09-2019 06:36

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
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Westminster voting intention:

CON: 32% (-)
LDEM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)

BREX: 14% (-)
GRN: 4% (-3)
This can't the right! Twitter has been telling us all just how badly Jo Swinson is doing and how Jeremy 'Jesus' Corbyn is showing her up.

The real question is why Labour aren't stepping aside to avoid splitting the Lib Dem vote.

Mick 20-09-2019 21:46

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
BREAKING: Sources believe NEC will vote to oust Deputy Leader, Tom Watson in morning, plus move will be backed by members and enough votes on conference floor to approve the move tomorrow afternoon ... move has come completely out of the blue for Watson’s team on eve of Labour Election campaign conference.

Pierre 20-09-2019 21:48

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36010962)
BREAKING: Sources believe NEC will vote to oust Deputy Leader, Tom Watson in morning, plus move will be backed by members and enough votes on conference floor to approve the move tomorrow afternoon ... move has come completely out of the blue for Watson’s team on eve of Labour Election campaign conference.

The revolution will be televised, don’t upset the polit bureau.

Hugh 20-09-2019 21:54

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Some more details

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...m-watsons-post
Quote:

Jon Lansman, founder of the pro-Corbyn campaign group Momentum, tabled a last-minute motion at the party’s ruling national executive committee (NEC) on Friday night, calling for Watson’s job to be scrapped.

A Momentum source said: “No one person is more important than beating Boris Johnson, ending austerity and tackling the climate emergency. We just can’t afford to go into an election with a deputy leader set on wrecking Labour’s chances.

“Labour members overwhelmingly want a deputy leadership election, but our outdated rulebook won’t let it happen. You need 20% of Labour MPs to trigger an election, and they just won’t let the members have a fair and open election.”

The chair of the NEC ruled Lansman’s motion out of order, but he then sought to have that decision overturned. He won the subsequent vote 17-10; but that fell just short of the two-thirds majority necessary to challenge the chair’s authority.

However, the Guardian understands NEC members agreed to return to the issue at Saturday’s meeting.

If the policy is agreed, it would be recommended to Labour members as a change to party rules, which would then have to be approved by conference. Neither Watson nor Corbyn were present at the meeting.

Chris 20-09-2019 23:50

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Wot, Labour MPs standing in the way of a fair and open election? Whodathunkit ...

pip08456 21-09-2019 10:13

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36010978)
Wot, Labour MPs standing in the way of a fair and open election? Whodathunkit ...

Especially when it is the founder of Momentum who is complaining!:D

denphone 21-09-2019 10:40

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
So if someone disagrees with your policy or policies within a political party the new political in thing is to get rid of them.:rolleyes:

papa smurf 21-09-2019 10:55

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Jezza has called off the vote.


https://news.sky.com/story/tony-blai...erous-11815538

denphone 21-09-2019 11:00

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36010995)

Yes l just saw that on the Sky News app papa but my sentiments still apply not just to the Labour party but all political parties.

1andrew1 21-09-2019 11:28

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36010996)
Yes l just saw that on the Sky News app papa but my sentiments still apply not just to the Labour party but all political parties.

Indeed, BoJo and Jezza are not too disimilar here.

papa smurf 21-09-2019 11:30

Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36010999)
Indeed, BoJo and Jezza are not too disimilar here.

I don't think jezza knew anything about ousting Watson, it was the momentum mob.


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