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RichardCoulter 05-07-2020 05:10
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
You can find out if your family or employer etc used to own slaves here:

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs//

heero_yuy 05-07-2020 08:29
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Quote from RichardCoulter: You can find out if your family or employer etc used to own slaves here:

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs//
Maybe we can claim back ownership? :D

Hugh 05-07-2020 10:46
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36042364)
And? So what? Is that anything to apologise for? Were we not building infrastructure, providing water treatment, electricity plant and so on?
Yes, we were, purely for altruistic* reasons, obviously... ;)

(Except in India, where we destroyed the textile industry in the 19th Century, when it provided 25% of the world’s textiles...)

*not so we could produce and export their raw materials, with very little of the profit going locally.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36042385)
Maybe we can claim back ownership? :D
Well, come anywhere near my grand-children, and you’ll be passing teeth next time you go to the loo.

(And before anyone raises the straw man argument of "faux woke outrage", try to imagine how you’d feel if someone joked about putting your grandchildren into chains, whipping them, taking them away from their parents, and then selling them on as if they were animals - because that’s what slavery did).

heero, you stepped over the line with this one.

Sephiroth 05-07-2020 10:53
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36042388)
Yes, we were, purely for altruistic* reasons, obviously... ;)

(Except in India, where we destroyed the textile industry in the 19th Century, when it provided 25% of the world’s textiles...)

*not so we could produce and export their raw materials, with very little of the profit going locally.
There's a more complete picture given in the official link below.

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...e%20government.

This woke-ism of yours is appalling.



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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36042388)
Yes, we were, purely for altruistic* reasons, obviously... ;)

(Except in India, where we destroyed the textile industry in the 19th Century, when it provided 25% of the world’s textiles...)

*not so we could produce and export their raw materials, with very little of the profit going locally.

---------- Post added at 09:46 ---------- Previous post was at 09:41 ----------

Well, come anywhere near my grand-children, and you’ll be passing teeth next time you go to the loo.

(And before anyone raises the straw man argument of "faux woke outrage", try to imagine how you’d feel if someone joked about putting your grandchildren into chains, whipping them, taking them away from their parents, and then selling them on as if they were animals - because that’s what slavery did).

heero, you stepped over the line with this one.
No - you've overcooked this one.

figgyburn 05-07-2020 13:17
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
On a slight tangent,i see the NFL/NBL teams are having their annual rethink about teams names,Redskins,Chiefs,Indians,Braves etc.

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/07/03...lb-teams-next/


https://deadline.com/2020/07/clevela...ns-1202977381/

Next for the "chop" will be Indian Motorcycles,Tomahawk missiles,Apache helicopters,etc and you certainly will not be allowed to shout "Geronimo" when you jump from a plane during a parachute jump.
When will this madness end?.

nomadking 05-07-2020 13:28
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 36042397)
On a slight tangent,i see the NFL/NBL teams are having their annual rethink about teams names,Redskins,Chiefs,Indians,Braves etc.

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/07/03...lb-teams-next/


https://deadline.com/2020/07/clevela...ns-1202977381/

Next for the "chop" will be Indian Motorcycles,Tomahawk missiles,Apache helicopters,etc and you certainly will not be allowed to shout "Geronimo" when you jump from a plane during a parachute jump.
When will this madness end?.
Are you sure you want to know?

Gavin78 05-07-2020 14:18
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
I used to go to a high school that was about 70% black and asian kids. The bullying towards white kids was out of this world this was in the early 90's a few of the harder white kids that used to fight back always got beaten down because word got round that a white kids beat up a black kid so 6 or 7 of them would be waiting for them after school/ This is supposed to be one of the best schools in my area for education as well I hope over the years its got better

Paul 05-07-2020 15:03
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36042388)
Well, come anywhere near my grand-children, and you’ll be passing teeth next time you go to the loo.

(And before anyone raises the straw man argument of "faux woke outrage", try to imagine how you’d feel if someone joked about putting your grandchildren into chains, whipping them, taking them away from their parents, and then selling them on as if they were animals - because that’s what slavery did).

heero, you stepped over the line with this one.
Good grief Hugh, wind your neck in a bit, no one stepped over any lines, maybe you need to take a break.

Sephiroth 05-07-2020 15:31
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 36042397)
On a slight tangent,i see the NFL/NBL teams are having their annual rethink about teams names,Redskins,Chiefs,Indians,Braves etc.

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/07/03...lb-teams-next/


https://deadline.com/2020/07/clevela...ns-1202977381/

Next for the "chop" will be Indian Motorcycles,Tomahawk missiles,Apache helicopters,etc and you certainly will not be allowed to shout "Geronimo" when you jump from a plane during a parachute jump.
When will this madness end?.
When the woke people drop dead.

RichardCoulter 05-07-2020 16:27
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Estate Agents are the latest ones to jump on the bandwaggon/distance themselves from slavery (depending on which way you look at it):

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...link-zhv27mk5j

Apparently, they are to stop using the term 'Master Bedroom' because they believe it could offend their more socially aware clients because it may be thought of as having links to slavery and be viewed as sexist.

During a discussion about in on this mornings 'Sunday Morning Live' show on BBC1, an Asian woman said that there was a lot to be done, but that this was "not the way forward".

Sephiroth 05-07-2020 16:33
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36042423)
Estate Agents are the latest ones to jump on the badwaggon/distance themselves from slavery (depending which way you look at it):

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...link-zhv27mk5j

Apparently, they are to stop using the term 'Master Bedroom' because they believe it could offend their more socially aware clients because it may be thought of as having links to slavery and be viewed as sexist.

A discussion about in on this mornings 'Sunday Morning Live' show on BBC1
Jeez - this country is rapidly losing its way. The woke idiots are hell-bent on destroying the English culture and custom.

Boris - do something.

RichardCoulter 05-07-2020 16:50
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36042385)
Maybe we can claim back ownership? :D
Slaves were effectively bought by the Government and then freed, so no!

The Government had to borrow money to do this and the idea of the state compensating slave owners was opposed by some:

https://www.taxjustice.net/2020/06/0...-uk-questions/

Sephiroth 05-07-2020 17:10
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36042427)
Slaves were effectively bought by the Government and then freed, so no!

The Government had to borrow money to do this and the idea of the state compensating slave owners was opposed by some:

https://www.taxjustice.net/2020/06/0...-uk-questions/
From Richard's link, a small extract:

Quote:
Kris Manjapra‘s article, along with the work of historian David Olusoga inspired this blog, our investigations, and our Freedom of Information requests on this subject.

The named people are (I hope) British citizens fully entitled to their opinion and to publish whatever they wish.

But my point here is that they are not of English heritage or culture and their calls to erase the English culture should be rejected. I won't go much into the merits of compensating the slaves - they are long dead and their ancestors, if they could be found, are obviously not entitled to compensation for slavery they have not had to endure.

The article is frankly poisonous, even if there is underlying historical truth.

downquark1 05-07-2020 17:43
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
"master bedroom" was coined in the early 20th century, so the links to slavery is absolutely tenuous at best.

RichardCoulter 05-07-2020 18:05
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36042435)
"master bedroom" was coined in the early 20th century, so the links to slavery is absolutely tenuous at best.
Yes, someone also said this on the show. It cannot be linked to slavery if the phrase came into being long after slavery was (legally) abolished.


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