Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I know, so was my response. Just my general disgust at Sky's new proposals etc. (I am with Sky, so it effects me where as Virgin does not).

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Yeah they sneakily tried to avoid sending us info on them billing us for it a while back along with Sky Atlantic / and then the F1 network. When they added box sets in general Hubby told them to shove the lot so they apologized for not sending out the change through T&C etc and gave us a 20% discount for 18 months from the lower tariff so it worked out for us but they did mention that a bunch of those networks may go onto their main package soon enough.

I am not sure if it is to do with low ratings though and may be to do with something about being unable to put it as CPP if it is a standalone network on Sky, at a premium rate. (I.e. like they had to do with half of their Asian package, almost bumping the cost up for the rest of us before they backed down).

Most ratings for networks like that are not very high to begin with (even their major networks are dropping - and not just for Sky, but everywhere generically) but usually that is accounted for in channel placing / availability / platforms / programing / timing / cost (both ends) / advertising etc. So as a whole you are likely correct on the ratings but they probably factored that in.

Making it FTA makes CPP a lot easier, which should bring them much more in the long run (financially).

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I agree that Old Boy's posting may over-optimise the situation as the quote about Sky Atlantic arriving on VM is not as definite as he says it is. But, I still prefer his interpretation!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Well, if BT is one, Virgin Media is a bigger TV platform than that.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

It goes around the same sort of 'CPP' when discussing software (for computers it is Windows to Apple / sometimes Linux etc) and phones is Android / IoS etc etc...so I would say that the BT / VM is an accurate assumption from OLD BOY.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

BT have more bargaining power then Virgin do..

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Nothing to do with it, Den. Sky are monetising their assets so they are looking to get as big an audience share within a pay tv environment as possible. And I remind you that Sky themselves said it would be on all major platforms. The only question is whether Talk Talk is part of that group of platforms.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

BT have premium sport which Virgin don't have....

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Virgin also do also use Sky networks for some of their movie platform, too. Like BT have their premium sports, Sky have their sports, and cinema too - does Virgin have anything comparable on either?

That being said BT have the main advantage which is that every third party supplier of internet / wireless services that is not copper / optic based like VM has to use BT / Openreach's hardware - like Sky, Talk talk etc. Unless VM allows other providers to operate on its network (which I am unaware of) BT has a huge advantage.

Inadvertently (without mean to), you kind of made Denphone's point, by mentioning Talk Talk / third party providers that use BT's hardware.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Not 100% correct both Sky and Talk Talk have some of their own equipment in exchanges.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I think Virgin would come under a major platform.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I thought that it was all just using BT / Open reach's infrastructure?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

It uses Openreach's system but connects in the exchange to Sky's network

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Last time I had Sky install he did mention that he couldn't mess with the (BT) hardware and the hardware at the exchange was simply so that if he did the install it was cheaper for Sky than using BT. He said that invariably some of that cost trickling back down to the customer would mean that if it was engineering work we ourselves had to pay for, the mark up would be more expensive with BT engineers (from the exchange) and the trickle down cost of constantly using Sky engineers free of charge would increase the cost of a sky package in general.

I had no idea why, at the time but I guess it makes sense. I am still unsure as to what an engineer call now is or worth - I never had their insure system and was told that it was mostly useless.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

My TiVo box when I powered it on did a update installing software this morning anybody know what it’s for. I asked virgin surprise the don’t know

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

It is unlikely there was update this morning which is why they would be confused - on a Sunday.

Sounds like you may be switching your box off at the mains and causing it not to do stuff overnight when it should be doing updates and guide calls.