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muppetman11 20-03-2012 22:30
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Why not let sniper007 make his own mind up , only he knows his requirements , I'm sure if he needs advice he'll ask , be it here or the Sky section.

denphone 20-03-2012 22:35
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35403004)
Why not let sniper007 make his own mind up , only he knows his requirements , I'm sure if he needs advice he'll ask , be it here or the Sky section.
l totally agree MM.

Dave42 20-03-2012 22:59
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35403008)
l totally agree MM.
both VM's and sky's prices getting far to high now

carlwaring 20-03-2012 23:07
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Originally Posted by andrewbrown (Post 35402984)
...till Sky review their prices for September!
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Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35402989)
How does everyone know they will review their prices in september? I read that a lot on here. Is that when they are fixed until?
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Originally Posted by andrewbrown (Post 35402992)
Sky froze their prices last year, advertising it as frozen until August 2012.
Indeed. Just like VM have a price increase every April, Sky's is every September. Except last year (after they had just put their prices up again before September for once, then touted "prices held until August 2012"; ie just before another annual price rise.
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Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35402989)
Why do you have no doubt? Again, I read this a lot. I'm not denying they will just asking why people say this. With what certainty I mean...justify your statement.
Because both VM and Sky have annual price rise. (Last year excepted for Sky; as above.)

thunderlips 21-03-2012 00:14
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I rang up vm got myself a Tivo and accepted the rise and spoke to vm about this so got a small discount ! like my wife said to me :- put up, shut up or move on ! lol so i put up and shut up ! lol

denphone 21-03-2012 07:18
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35403017)
both VM's and sky's prices getting far to high now
Yes they are indeed but l look at it as if there are 4 luxury's in life and they are drink,cigarettes,good food and subscription TV so to our household as we don't drink or smoke the other two are very much our luxury's in our household.:)

sniper007 21-03-2012 08:07
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The thing is it's all or nothing. They make it very bad value for the customer to NOT get a full package with either company, so it's basically all sky or all virgin. I like the Virgin broadband which is important to me, but sky TV is better.
I tried to reduce my cost by looking at Virgin M level and it's so deliberately inferior to TV XL that it's justfunny. For me I only require 2-3 of the XL channels but yet I have to subscribe to the whole thing to get it. The best/fairest way would be for a company to come forward and charge on a per channel basis, but that business model will never happen because there are two main competitors (sky/virgin) that like their current package business models which they gain a lot of money from. Of the 200 odd channels I probably have on XL I genuinely watch and record from perhaps 20 of them. Want Nickjunior for kids? Requires XL. No other method to get one channel from XL you want.

carlwaring 21-03-2012 09:42
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35403128)
Yes they are indeed but l look at it as if there are 4 luxury's in life and they are drink,cigarettes,good food and subscription TV so to our household as we don't drink or smoke the other two are very much our luxury's in our household.:)
Indeed. That's why I can afford it too. I don't drink (alcohol!), smoke or go our socialising (and therefore spending money!) so it all goes on cable.

Itshim 21-03-2012 09:44
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Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35403145)
The thing is it's all or nothing. They make it very bad value for the customer to NOT get a full package with either company, so it's basically all sky or all virgin. I like the Virgin broadband which is important to me, but sky TV is better.
I tried to reduce my cost by looking at Virgin M level and it's so deliberately inferior to TV XL that it's justfunny. For me I only require 2-3 of the XL channels but yet I have to subscribe to the whole thing to get it. The best/fairest way would be for a company to come forward and charge on a per channel basis, but that business model will never happen because there are two main competitors (sky/virgin) that like their current package business models which they gain a lot of money from. Of the 200 odd channels I probably have on XL I genuinely watch and record from perhaps 20 of them. Want Nickjunior for kids? Requires XL. No other method to get one channel from XL you want.
So true we watch on a regular basis perhaps 10 channels only + 3 to 4 when family members are with us. 3 are XL only . Thats life:p:

carlwaring 21-03-2012 09:52
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Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35403145)
I tried to reduce my cost by looking at Virgin M level and it's so deliberately inferior to TV XL that it's just funny.
(I think you meant "not funny", right? :)) Anyway... of course they're so different. That's the idea :rolleyes:
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For me I only require 2-3 of the XL channels but yet I have to subscribe to the whole thing to get it.
Me too. In fact, I would think that that's the same for everyone; even thouse with "Sky World" (or whatever it's called now.) You think anyone has the time to watch 100s of channels? :eek: I have barely enough time to watch the things I record off the half-dozen or so channels I regularly watch.

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The best/fairest way would be for a company to come forward and charge on a per channel basis, but that business model will never happen because there are two main competitors (sky/virgin) that like their current package business models which they gain a lot of money from.
Channel carriage ain't cheap and my guess is that it would probably cost nearly as much as it does now for just half-dozen channels I regularly watch.

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Of the 200 odd channels I probably have on XL I genuinely watch and record from perhaps 20 of them. Want Nickjunior for kids? Requires XL. No other method to get one channel from XL you want.
You're not wrong and it is annoying. Just not sure your way would be cheaper.

gaz2810i 21-03-2012 10:06
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Well, I just gave Virgin one last chance to try and keep me and they just can't match the discounts (well I say match, they won't offer any) offered to me by sky. I really need to save money and unfortunately, in the short term at least, Sky are the cheapest option. :(

sniper007 21-03-2012 11:28
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Yep. It comes down to price. Becoming a new customer with either obviously is going to be cheaper due to new customer deals.

What I want to know, is if I phone up and they offer me TIVO to keep me happy, can I keep my existing 2 x V+ HD boxes so in effect I get a third multiroom for free if I connect up the cable to that room? I'm assuming I would be asked for the box back and/or I can't just hook up another room willy nilly, or atleast not legally. Surely a cable feed is a cable feed though and if I split it and feed to another room...it would work if I have an activated STB?

daggman 21-03-2012 12:22
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It will be good for you to try out sky for a year, then in the future you can always play them of against each other, I have just terminated VM for TV and Phone and gone back to Sky i have got Sky world with HD pack (F1 in glorious HD)for 12 months all for 23.50 a month 75% off plus £50 credit to my account unbelievable deal, after 12 months will see who offers the best deal again. As a side note activated Sky anytime+ yesterday and really impressed lots and lots of content, have to use the +1 channels now again for recording, miss the 3 tuners but thats about it.

Dave42 21-03-2012 12:48
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Originally Posted by gaz2810i (Post 35403180)
Well, I just gave Virgin one last chance to try and keep me and they just can't match the discounts (well I say match, they won't offer any) offered to me by sky. I really need to save money and unfortunately, in the short term at least, Sky are the cheapest option. :(
don't forget sky will be putting up prices in september for certain

gaz2810i 21-03-2012 13:18
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35403260)
don't forget sky will be putting up prices in september for certain
That may be the case but not more than the £40 I will be saving by joining Sky and cutting the Movie channels

TBH I am still questioning my decision as I will be going from fast BB to very slow BB + I have an aweful feeling I will miss TV immensly :(

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Originally Posted by daggman (Post 35403250)
It will be good for you to try out sky for a year, then in the future you can always play them of against each other, I have just terminated VM for TV and Phone and gone back to Sky i have got Sky world with HD pack (F1 in glorious HD)for 12 months all for 23.50 a month 75% off plus £50 credit to my account unbelievable deal, after 12 months will see who offers the best deal again. As a side note activated Sky anytime+ yesterday and really impressed lots and lots of content, have to use the +1 channels now again for recording, miss the 3 tuners but thats about it.
That is kinda where I am at. How did you get that deal, thats a great price.


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