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Jonnymeg 09-02-2011 18:30

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http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/ne...l/article.html

Digital Fanatic 09-02-2011 19:21

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Peter_ 09-02-2011 19:26

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im not talking about that..if you read back you stated that it was illegal to view foreign sats in the uk and ofcourse we have that ruling from the Advocate General of the ECJ...i only came into this thread because someone recently posted.

ohh im not worried about starviews or kryptviews..im a dreambox(s) type of guy;)

You can continue to dream it seems.:D

Chris 09-02-2011 19:28

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Originally Posted by pabloo (Post 35170193)
im not talking about that..if you read back you stated that it was illegal to view foreign sats in the uk and ofcourse we have that ruling from the Advocate General of the ECJ...i only came into this thread because someone recently posted.

ohh im not worried about starviews or kryptviews..im a dreambox(s) type of guy;)

As a point of fact, it wasn't a ruling, it was an opinion offered to the judges by a senior lawyer. The judges do often accept these opinions and rule the same way, but it's not over yet.

That aside, you should pay close attention to the progress of the court case Johnnymeg has linked to. It doesn't matter how you steal your cable services, all the boxes are as illegal as each other and when they catch you, you will wind up in front of the beak facing a large fine or up to 5 years in jail.

Sirius 09-02-2011 20:08

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THREE men have been charged with defrauding TV giant Virgin Media of up to £40m.
Excellent news indeed

BenMcr 09-02-2011 20:57

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And another one http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/loc..._25m_1_2391258

Digital Fanatic 09-02-2011 21:45

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We're on a roll !

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pabloo 09-02-2011 23:11

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35170993)
As a point of fact, it wasn't a ruling, it was an opinion offered to the judges by a senior lawyer. The judges do often accept these opinions and rule the same way, but it's not over yet.

That aside, you should pay close attention to the progress of the court case Johnnymeg has linked to. It doesn't matter how you steal your cable services, all the boxes are as illegal as each other and when they catch you, you will wind up in front of the beak facing a large fine or up to 5 years in jail.


I am sure we all want that senior lawyers opinion addopted by the judges in 3 or so months time..more competition prices drop dont we??

as for those guys behind the starview franchise they are big boys and justice will ofcourse take its course no doubt,although for anyone stealing cable or satellite by purchasing one of those boxes will hardly get nearly 5 years in jail infact show me a case were anyone individualy stealing cable or satellite has got time??infact show me a case were anyone has got done for having chipped boxes in their homes!!infact this link posted by Ben http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/loc..._25m_1_2391258

this guy got done for causeing virgin £1.25m got an 18 month sentence SUSPENDED ...maybe it all isnt really serious in the grand scheme of things ehh??

AndyCambs 10-02-2011 05:42

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Originally Posted by pabloo (Post 35171143)
this guy got done for causeing virgin £1.25m got an 18 month sentence SUSPENDED ...maybe it all isnt really serious in the grand scheme of things ehh??

It's not over until the fat lady sings:

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There will be a court hearing in May to decide how much money he has to repay.

Chris 10-02-2011 08:26

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Originally Posted by pabloo (Post 35171143)
I am sure we all want that senior lawyers opinion addopted by the judges in 3 or so months time..more competition prices drop dont we??

Yes, I think most people would. I'd be happy to see Sky's institutionalized monopoly broken up. I'm simply pointing out the difference between legal advice and a court judgement. Here's hoping the judges in this case take that advice.

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as for those guys behind the starview franchise they are big boys and justice will ofcourse take its course no doubt,although for anyone stealing cable or satellite by purchasing one of those boxes will hardly get nearly 5 years in jail infact show me a case were anyone individualy stealing cable or satellite has got time??infact show me a case were anyone has got done for having chipped boxes in their homes!!infact this link posted by Ben http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/loc..._25m_1_2391258

this guy got done for causeing virgin £1.25m got an 18 month sentence SUSPENDED ...maybe it all isnt really serious in the grand scheme of things ehh??
You know what - I can't point to a case involving an individual with a single box. Doesn't mean to say it doesn't happen though. Actually I think it's unlikely that an individual brought to court would go to jail unless they were a repeat offender. More likely they would get a fine. But they would still have a criminal record for fraud, which is unlikely to be helpful for any future job they might apply for.

The police and VM are always more likely to go after the big boys. As with drugs busts, if you take out the dealers you take out more of the problem in one go than you would by taking out the individual junkies on the street corners. But the individuals on the street corners are still law-breaking junkies. And junkies do still get done for possession when the boys in blue find them.

pabloo 10-02-2011 11:01

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35171223)
Yes, I think most people would. I'd be happy to see Sky's institutionalized monopoly broken up. I'm simply pointing out the difference between legal advice and a court judgement. Here's hoping the judges in this case take that advice.

You know what - I can't point to a case involving an individual with a single box. Doesn't mean to say it doesn't happen though. Actually I think it's unlikely that an individual brought to court would go to jail unless they were a repeat offender. More likely they would get a fine. But they would still have a criminal record for fraud, which is unlikely to be helpful for any future job they might apply for.

The police and VM are always more likely to go after the big boys. As with drugs busts, if you take out the dealers you take out more of the problem in one go than you would by taking out the individual junkies on the street corners. But the individuals on the street corners are still law-breaking junkies. And junkies do still get done for possession when the boys in blue find them.

well the boys in blue never arrested 1 single person for having a chipped box in their house(never seen 1 link over the years)...and even if you were to show me a link or 2 i would imagine the customers of virgin media that got done was miniscule..but enough about all that its in the past..as i said i only posted on this thread because someone else bumped it and i was reading back about the Karen Murphy case and a few senior members were acting flippantly and basically calling karen and people like Karen the devil incarnate.

Peter_ 10-02-2011 11:18

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well the boys in blue never arrested 1 single person for having a chipped box in their house(never seen 1 link over the years)...and even if you were to show me a link or 2 i would imagine the customers of virgin media that got done was miniscule..but enough about all that its in the past..as i said i only posted on this thread because someone else bumped it and i was reading back about the Karen Murphy case and a few senior members were acting flippantly and basically calling karen and people like Karen the devil incarnate.

You would just be blacklisted from getting services from any ISP.:D:D:D

pabloo 10-02-2011 11:21

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35171295)
You would just be blacklisted from getting services from any ISP.:D:D:D

well lets hope access to isp's becomes a human right:D:D i love europe:p:

Peter_ 10-02-2011 11:35

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Originally Posted by pabloo (Post 35171297)
well lets hope access to isp's becomes a human right:D:D i love europe:p:

Unlikely to ever happen.:D

beeman 10-02-2011 20:37

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Unlikely to ever happen.:D

funny you say that....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8548190.stm

(old story i know but i thought it was intreasting concidering your comment)


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