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figgyburn 04-07-2020 12:21
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Just watched the Black Bias Corporation news this morning.The first thing i caught was the police retreating from a block party in white city after being bombarded by missiles thrown by a majority Black gathering,and a number of white trash *******s,no social distancing or mask wearing in evidence.Just like previous block parties.No mention of that on the news soundbite.

Next item President Trumps Mt Rushmore speech,virtually all whiteys of course and they emphasised,no social distancing or mask wearing in evidence.
One a "disturbance",the other,a peaceful gathering.

Spot the difference.:banghead:

papa smurf 04-07-2020 12:31
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 36042292)
Just watched the Black Bias Corporation news this morning.The first thing i caught was the police retreating from a block party in white city after being bombarded by missiles thrown by a majority Black gathering,and a number of white trash *******s,no social distancing or mask wearing in evidence.Just like previous block parties.No mention of that on the news soundbite.

Next item President Trumps Mt Rushmore speech,virtually all whiteys of course and they emphasised,no social distancing or mask wearing in evidence.
One a "disturbance",the other,a peaceful gathering.

Spot the difference.:banghead:

The White city bust up was The black louts movement,the police should have used CS gas to break up the mob then gone in with batons and tasers.

nomadking 04-07-2020 12:32
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36042296)
The White city bust up was The black louts movement,the police should have used CS gas to break up the mob then gone in with batons and tasers.
Or water cannon, if they had one.

papa smurf 04-07-2020 12:41
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36042298)
Or water cannon, if they had one.
Thank theresa May for getting rid of those.

Carth 04-07-2020 12:59
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36042298)
Or water cannon, if they had one.
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36042302)
Thank theresa May for getting rid of those.
But we do have some of these

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/07/1.jpg


- using a lovely bright dye in the water would be great to see on the news too :D

ianch99 04-07-2020 15:25
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36042272)
My friend, try understanding the underlying point. The UK has, for years, fed a colonial guilt trip through the wretched Foreign Aid programme.
But black lives matter least in many/most parts of Africa and this isn't the legacy we left them. We exited Africa having provided an administrative foundation, infrastructure, water treatment etc. We left them with industries and agriculture to exploit.

Move then to the USA where the essentially white society is firmly rooted in the gun toting wild west days, of which the police can be seen as an extension (substitute knee for gun or machete for that matter). The descendants of the slavery days are obvious victims on whatever scale of the prejudice within some of the American psyche.

The UK is nothing like that. Not remotely. But suddenly anarchists and woke idiots join forces to make street mayhem here for a cause that has no place here, conveniently forgetting that Africa is the centre of black lives don't matter.

As far as I'm concerned, the UK BLM movement is subversive and must not be taken seriously.
Are you saying that the UK has no need to apologise its for colonial past? You paint a rose tinted picture of our colonial legacy which is at odds with the real world especially when viewed from the perspective of the colonised.

Also, the Foreign Aid programme is not "wretched" as you put it, it's purpose is to support sustainable development and to help in disaster relief. You can debate the details of implementation but the overarching mandate is worthy unless you resort to a pure nationalist approach where no one is worthy of help outside of these shores.

Sephiroth 04-07-2020 15:42
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36042281)
You had my approval until the last comment.
Thing is, Maggy, without the controversial remark at the end I wouldn’t have drawn your comment on the substantive text.

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36042317)
Are you saying that the UK has no need to apologise its for colonial past? You paint a rose tinted picture of our colonial legacy which is at odds with the real world especially when viewed from the perspective of the colonised.

Also, the Foreign Aid programme is not "wretched" as you put it, it's purpose is to support sustainable development and to help in disaster relief. You can debate the details of implementation but the overarching mandate is worthy unless you resort to a pure nationalist approach where no one is worthy of help outside of these shores.
There is no need to apologise at all any more than Italy needs to apologise for Roman pillage etc. Every thing evolves. It’ a stupid woke concept.

As regards how the ex-colonised view matters, they are the subject of corrupt and cruel governments and the demand, if any, for compensation comes from those very same corrupted politicians. I’m generalusing because there are minor exceptions.

As regards foreign aid, it has been mis-spent especially when seen in the context of what needs sorting out in the UK.

nomadking 04-07-2020 17:45
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
The "colonial powers" were last into slavery, and FIRST out. In Africa, slaves were taken by Black people. Slavery existed in Africa long before the White slave traders turned up. If anything it is the FACT that slavery existed before, that gave the White slave traders the idea in the first place. Not really much evidence around that time in White "western" societies of slavery, before visiting Africa.


If anything it the the White Slavs of Eastern Europe that should object to the term "slave".
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The term slave has its origins in the word slav. The slavs, who inhabited a large part of Eastern Europe, were taken as slaves by the Muslims of Spain during the 9th century AD.
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In Africa there were a number of societies and kingdoms which kept slaves, before there was any regular commercial contact with Europeans, including the Asanti, the Kings of Bonny and Dahomey.

OLD BOY 04-07-2020 17:47
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36042317)
Are you saying that the UK has no need to apologise its for colonial past? You paint a rose tinted picture of our colonial legacy which is at odds with the real world especially when viewed from the perspective of the colonised.

Also, the Foreign Aid programme is not "wretched" as you put it, it's purpose is to support sustainable development and to help in disaster relief. You can debate the details of implementation but the overarching mandate is worthy unless you resort to a pure nationalist approach where no one is worthy of help outside of these shores.
I don't think it is for us to apologise for the acts of our forefathers. That's pretty pathetic. Maybe we should tell the Italians to apologise to us for the Roman Invasion and for the atrocities inflicted on British people ordered by Emperor Claudius. The whole idea of apologising for our history is farcical, to say the least.

As for the Foreign Aid programme, there are not many who would begrudge disaster relief, but you must know very well that a huge amount is wasted. That is what we object to.

Paul 04-07-2020 18:04
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36042317)
Are you saying that the UK has no need to apologise its for colonial past?
Absolutely. Why would anyone apologise for something 200+ years ago, over which they had zero control. The whole idea is nonsense..

Hugh 04-07-2020 18:15
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36042346)
Absolutely. Why would anyone apologise for something 200+ years ago, over which they had zero control. The whole idea is nonsense..
We had colonies under British rule for a large part of the 20th Century, up to the 1960s.

Paul 04-07-2020 18:53
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36042347)
We had colonies under British rule for a large part of the 20th Century, up to the 1960s.
We had Hong Kong until the 1997, thats not what he is referring to as you well know. :rolleyes:

Pierre 04-07-2020 18:53
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36042317)
Are you saying that the UK has no need to apologise its for colonial past?
Has Italy apologised for the Roman Empire, has Norway and Denmark apologised for the unprovoked attacks murders rapes anode theft undertaken by the Vikings.

Yes, I’m being facetious. But still.........

Hugh 04-07-2020 19:31
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Well, considering those countries didn’t exist when that happened, but you knew that...

Sephiroth 04-07-2020 21:33
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36042347)
We had colonies under British rule for a large part of the 20th Century, up to the 1960s.
And? So what? Is that anything to apologise for? Were we not building infrastructure, providing water treatment, electricity plant and so on?


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