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qasdfdsaq 17-02-2012 13:07

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The "anomaly" is part of how VM cable works unfortunately, upstream bandwidth requests are basically a CSMA free for all and VM don't use any of the fixed timeslots or QoS or guaranteed latency features that have existed since DOCSIS 1.1

Chrysalis 17-02-2012 13:20

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is there downsides to those features?

qasdfdsaq 17-02-2012 13:23

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Takes money and brains to implement?

thenry 17-02-2012 13:24

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may be because every man and his dog was more interested in free [Mod Edit] thats VM employees included even if they get decent deals. no one gave a toss. and heres a fact.. those in director positions didnt have a clue how bad it was which either meams their thick.. which i doubt.. turnt the other way which i doubt too or fed [Mod Edit]. which i think was the case. this is what i meant by getting rid of clones etc. then VM able to get somewhere positive. anyway with that off my chest... qas can they, VM improve latency etc? capacity is one thing thats obviously going to help but additional technologies.. would it cost them much to put such technology to good use?

also cabinet side.. i know therres the old old csbs that need upgrading but the newish ones? could they be upgraded to a better standard without fibre pulls?

Chrysalis 17-02-2012 13:25

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35383427)
Takes money and brains to implement?

nuff said I guess ;)

qasdfdsaq 17-02-2012 15:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35383432)
qas can they, VM improve latency etc? capacity is one thing thats obviously going to help but additional technologies.. would it cost them much to put such technology to good use?

They certainly can, and they are doing a few things to do so (upstream bonding for example, has been in the works for over a year now). As I say guaranteed QoS has been incorporated in the standard since DOCSIS 1.1 so it's easily possible. But it has implications for what VM sells and how they market their product.

Part of the problem is competition, BT's massive upload ratio has pushed VM to improve their upstreams (remember the 33:1 ratio on 50mb?) and this push is straining the network as VM has historically had pretty crap return paths in some areas. Cable networks were never built to take data, they were initially intended for one-way analogue TV. But if it weren't for competition we'd probably still be languishing on 30:1 download to upload ratios or worse.

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also cabinet side.. i know therres the old old csbs that need upgrading but the newish ones? could they be upgraded to a better standard without fibre pulls?
I couldn't say as I know very little about VM's cabinet infrastructure. For the most part the HFC network is using very little of it's theoretical capacity. It's more stuff in the middle than the cabinets themselves. And optical nodes.

kwikbreaks 23-02-2012 09:46

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What's happened here? Has the torrent freak finally downloaded all of the internet? Filled his hard drives? Suffering from ******s cramp?

Who knows. Whatever it is my TBB graphs are looking a lot better. I may even consider upping to 30Mbps so long as it's free (only a profile change when I downgraded so that's all it will be to upgrade).

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...22-02-2012.png

Chrysalis 23-02-2012 10:31

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that graph still looks dodgy, just isnt as extreme.

kwikbreaks 23-02-2012 13:19

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Well it's a fairly big improvement on this one from 5th...

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...05-02-2012.png

I'll see how things go. Right now I could get faster ADSL though as even with the fault it was doing ~ 15Mbps or so iirc.

qasdfdsaq 23-02-2012 15:20

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Depends on your definition of extreme. My guess would suggest the one from the 5th shows severe upstream congestion and a moderate amount of downstream. The current one just shows lots of downstream with not too bad upstream.

ShadowTD 23-02-2012 15:41

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...19-02-2012.png

Is it any wonder I'm leaving? And Kwikbreaks, muchos LOL at your cramp comment! ;)

qasdfdsaq 23-02-2012 16:25

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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35386731)
What's happened here? Has the torrent freak finally downloaded all of the internet? Filled his hard drives? Suffering from ******s cramp?

When suffering from said cramp I tend to download more, not less. Odd huh?

I'm tempted to keep my VM line running for another couple months just to see how it goes once the upstream and downstream upgrades are done. So far the last 15 months of upgrades have given me a connection that's now 4 times slower than it was a year ago, another month won't hurt my wallet too bad.

hjf288 23-02-2012 18:18

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/02/26.png

Mines looking more legit now

Risco 23-02-2012 22:29

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[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

:mad:

boroboi 24-02-2012 00:49

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I love the smell of jitter in the morning.

Or not!


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