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WillPS 07-02-2011 18:44
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35169346)
Theft is theft, what ever way you look at it.
Indeed but whilst I didn't agree with cable-TV theft, at least it didn't physically degrade a paying customer's service. Cloned modem users go down in the same category as BNP supporters for me; they were either ignorant or selfish and otherwise abhorrent.

What shocked me was how blasé ntl:, Telewest and VM were about it for ages really. Nagra2 was cracked early on in the last decade, it took until the end of that decade for VM to actually rectify the issue.

Sirius 07-02-2011 18:45
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Originally Posted by WillPS (Post 35169505)
Indeed but whilst I didn't agree with cable-TV theft, at least it didn't physically degrade a paying customer's service. Cloned modem users go down in the same category as BNP supporters for me; they were either ignorant or selfish and otherwise abhorrent.

What shocked me was how blasé ntl:, Telewest and VM were about it for ages really. Nagra2 was cracked early on in the last decade, it took until the end of that decade for VM to actually rectify the issue.
VM never used nagra 2 it was nagra 1

BenMcr 07-02-2011 18:52
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Originally Posted by WillPS (Post 35169505)
What shocked me was how blasé ntl:, Telewest and VM were about it for ages really. Nagra2 was cracked early on in the last decade, it took until the end of that decade for VM to actually rectify the issue.
To be fair I'm guessing part of the issue were the multiple billing and provisioning systems used by all the ex-companies

Trying to manage a whole subscriber swap of of cards would have been a nightmare!

WillPS 07-02-2011 19:16
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Well ntl and Telewest were completely separate until 2006ish, and they remained operationally separate until 2007. I'm sure independently them they could have done it before merging - Sky have changed cards a handful of times without too many problems.

BenMcr 07-02-2011 19:18
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Originally Posted by WillPS (Post 35169541)
Well ntl and Telewest were completely separate until 2006ish, and they remained operationally separate until 2007. I'm sure independently them they could have done it before merging - Sky have changed cards a handful of times without too many problems.
But then ntl still had 3 different billing systems at the time of the merger (not sure how many different provisioning systems were in place) and Telewest had only just finished moving theirs across to one system

WillPS 07-02-2011 19:21
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Ah true, gawd forgot about that - and how ex-C&W had different STBs etc.

NTL were a funny bunch weren't they?

RobboEdin 08-02-2011 09:48
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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35169461)
Virgin IMO wasnt bothered about dodgy boxes. They still got there basic subscription charges (where the money is), folk stole sky movies and sports (which virgin dont make money on anyway)
I have to disgree. Why, oh, why did Virgin Media EVER have a TV M which is FREE and allow these thieves to prosper and also fail to physically disconnect people who had left?

WillPS 08-02-2011 13:41
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It was only free (I prefer the term included) when they took a phone line and broadband...

pabloo 08-02-2011 17:05
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35098489)
I think you will find that it is still illegal to view that in this country and any court case will be in favour of it staying illegal.
what were you saying:D

Peter_ 08-02-2011 17:17
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Originally Posted by pabloo (Post 35170167)
what were you saying:D
About what exactly, I see some of your friends have been found and prosecuted though great news.:D

pabloo 08-02-2011 17:26
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35170185)
About what exactly, I see some of your friends have been found and prosecuted though great news.:D
im not talking about that..if you read back you stated that it was illegal to view foreign sats in the uk and ofcourse we have that ruling from the Advocate General of the ECJ...i only came into this thread because someone recently posted.

ohh im not worried about starviews or kryptviews..im a dreambox(s) type of guy;)

Digital Fanatic 08-02-2011 17:26
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35170185)
About what exactly, I see some of your friends have been found and prosecuted though great news.:D
he he he :D

Peter_ 08-02-2011 17:30
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Originally Posted by pabloo (Post 35170193)
im not talking about that..if you read back you stated that it was illegal to view foreign sats in the uk and ofcourse we have that ruling from the Advocate General of the ECJ...i only came into this thread because someone recently posted.

ohh im not worried about starviews or kryptviews..im a dreambox(s) type of guy;)
Where did I say that.

pabloo 08-02-2011 17:38
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35170198)
Where did I say that.
post 909

Digital Fanatic 08-02-2011 19:01
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Originally Posted by pabloo (Post 35170203)
post 909
that case is far from over though.


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