Re: smoking and the pub
 

Please don't - and that goes for the rest of you ;) :D

Anyone got anything new to say?

Re: smoking and the pub
 

I know. :)
I want to say that I am not some complete anti-smoking nazi. I have friends that still smoke, I don't look down on them and I miss smoking myself sometimes. I think the fact that non-smokers have been made out to be 'moaners' 'selfish' and 'ignorant' has got my back up however, and this is why my posts may have come across as harsh in the thread at times.

I think my main point though is and has always been that smoking kills and that the more we bemoan the nanny state and plead our right to free choice, the more the focus becomes dragged away from this very critical foundational point. :soapbox: :D

Re: smoking and the pub
 

What a fantastic web site! :D It was worth having this thread just for that link. :tu: :tu: :tu:

Re: smoking and the pub
 

The first man to wear a tophat was arrested for distubing the peace.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Have you ?

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Nope.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

My challenge that Slackdad failed in also goes out to you: find a non-smoking pub in Swansea or Port Talbot please :)

Re: smoking and the pub
 

They most certainly do have a detrimental affect on my health, they increase my stress levels, which increases my blood pressure, which increases my chance of having a heart attack and dying.
"Aren't harmful to your health" bovine excriment!
Smokers and non-smokers are also catered for, but you don't seem to be able to see that.
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Apparently there is one in Swansea's Wind Street Russ, don't have the name of it though

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Yeah and that's comparable to the dangers of smoke inhalation...:rolleyes:

Re: smoking and the pub
 

The Lounge, and a few pages back I supplied the link which showed it closed earlier this year.

My challenge is still open to bidders from the "there are plenty of non-smoking establishments around" brigade.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Yes, in that I have a choice whether to expose myself to either.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Well, I saw this posted on another site and thought it was amusing.

Drinkers will be next. The damage to society caused by alcohol is great. The bar of the future: smoke free, alcohol free with a crÃÃâ€*’¨che, soft drinks and approved non-threatening music playing in the background. :)

Re: smoking and the pub
 

You know what I meant Xaccers the health risks are not comparable.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Really? They both can lead to increased blood pressure which is detrimental to one's health, or does that not count because one increases your chance of getting cancer?
So you think something that's detremental to my health that you aren't bothered by doesn't warrent a ban, but something which is detrimental to your health but other people aren't bothered by does warrent a ban?

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Oh come off it Xaccers if you are being serious you are clutching at straws to say the least....As well you know smoking leads to a million and one problems besides increased blood pressure...

In fact I am not even going to go there, you know this is a ridiculous comparison to make.