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OLD BOY 25-08-2019 17:40

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I am thinking of substituting my Amazon Music subscription for the YouTube Music subscription, which would give me ad-free music on the V6.

However, one question. Would I still be able to add this as an app on my mobile phone so that I could play the music in my car? Has anyone done this and what is your verdict?

Legendkiller2k 25-08-2019 19:22

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007433)
I am thinking of substituting my Amazon Music subscription for the YouTube Music subscription, which would give me ad-free music on the V6.

However, one question. Would I still be able to add this as an app on my mobile phone so that I could play the music in my car? Has anyone done this and what is your verdict?

Here you go OB https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...music&hl=en_GB i use youtube music on the google home it is better than Amazon imo.

RichardCoulter 25-08-2019 20:00

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36007298)
Moreover, digital switchover couldn’t even begin until there existed a free digital terrestrial service that was widely understood to be free. OnDigital and then ITV Digital failed because they looked like just another subscription service and created the impression that it wasn’t possible to get into digital TV if your interests went no further than freely available public service broadcasters.

It wasn’t until the BBC took the lead in rebranding digital terrestrial TV as Freeview that set top box sales began to climb to levels where analogue broadcast switch-off dates could be proposed.

There is a large constituency of TV viewers in the UK who aren’t interested in paying for TV and won’t buy any hardware that’s not essential. They’re never going to buy a fire stick, a Roku, Britbox or Now TV.

From what I remember, when OnDigital started, the only way to get a DTT box was through them, so the impression was actually correct.

When Sky started giving out 'free' boxes, OnDigital started doing the same, so I guess that people could then subscribe for the minimum period and then use the box for the FTA channels.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36007325)
I have a connected TV. It's a 2014 model. When I got it, it supported iPlayer, Netflix and YouTube. None of these work any more. This could get quite costly (if I was bothered about streaming; luckily I'm not)

Whenever I buy a TV, I don't take it's smart capabilities into consideration, I just view it as a medium term bonus.

Rightly or wrongly, it's become clear that these features will only last for a fixed number of year. Not too much of a problem as there are virtually free options available eg a Now TV box.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36007382)
The good thing with Virgin/Sky is with Netflix . Amazon Prime and Youtube on their STB one does not encounter that problem.

True.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36007318)
A law has to be enforceable to ensure compliance. Do people exceed the speed limit? Do people illegally stream television? Of course. Yet these are illegal.

So if a retailer, such as Amazon, is shipping televisions from abroad will we ban them from entering the UK unless there's a guarantee the software will be maintained for ten years?

Add into the mix I'm sure the nations that are major manufacturers of televisions wouldn't particularly like this kind of rule for one small country. It'd never get through trade negotiations.

I wonder if the 'Fit for purpose' legislation would help with this?

OLD BOY 25-08-2019 20:00

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36007445)
Here you go OB https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...music&hl=en_GB i use youtube music on the google home it is better than Amazon imo.

So can I subscribe through the app on the V6 and then listen also on my car radio via my i-phone?

If so, this seems perfect for me.

Mad Max 25-08-2019 20:25

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36007219)
What evidence - OB has selective memory when he recalls his previous posts/predictions

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Having watched a few US sourced programs I'm not at all surprised there are a lot of people who are averse to it.


I assume from the various industry experts, and also others including the BBC, do keep up old chap....;)

denphone 26-08-2019 04:52

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007455)
So can I subscribe through the app on the V6 and then listen also on my car radio via my i-phone?

If so, this seems perfect for me.

Strange that for someone who thinks Virgin and Sky have no future...

ozsat 26-08-2019 07:23

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I got my ONdigital box off the shelf in a local tv store - they managed to get two in the day before launch.

It was limited supply from anywhere - but they were available off-the-shelf from launch.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36007450)
From what I remember, when OnDigital started, the only way to get a DTT box was through them, so the impression was actually correct.


Chris 26-08-2019 07:56

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As far as I remember, an OnDigital box would show all the FTA terrestrial TV channels out of the box with no need to activate a subscription. They just completely failed to mention that in any of their advertising, which meant instead of getting into every home and then trying to persuade some users to pay a little extra for subscription channels, they were just going up against Sky from day one, and their only selling point was that you didn’t need a dish. In other words their marketing strategy was based on a parody of their competitors from early in the previous decade, and aimed at blimpish types who wouldn’t pay anything over and above their tv licence if their lives depended on it.

ozsat 26-08-2019 08:13

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A long time ago now - I did have to call them but I think that was to switch on the pay channels.

They did have a couple of channels which Sky didn't have. Carlton Select had been cable only and was a very good channel.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36007558)
As far as I remember, an OnDigital box would show all the FTA terrestrial TV channels out of the box with no need to activate a subscription. They just completely failed to mention that in any of their advertising, which meant instead of getting into every home and then trying to persuade some users to pay a little extra for subscription channels, they were just going up against Sky from day one, and their only selling point was that you didn’t need a dish. In other words their marketing strategy was based on a parody of their competitors from early in the previous decade, and aimed at blimpish types who wouldn’t pay anything over and above their tv licence if their lives depended on it.


OLD BOY 26-08-2019 09:00

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36007516)
Strange that for someone who thinks Virgin and Sky have no future...

What? Of course they have a future. Mind you, bigger companies may consume them, as Comcast has with Sky.

The fact that pay tv channels will be a thing of the past in years to come will not impact on Sky or Virgin, who will simply offer packages of streaming services instead.

denphone 26-08-2019 09:15

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007563)
What? Of course they have a future. Mind you, bigger companies may consume them, as Comcast has with Sky.

Quelle surprise one company buys another company as that has happened since the year dot...

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007563)
The fact that pay tv channels will be a thing of the past in years to come will not impact on Sky or Virgin, who will simply offer packages of streaming services instead.

Contradictions are your middle name..;)

Chris 26-08-2019 09:16

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007563)
What? Of course they have a future. Mind you, bigger companies may consume them, as Comcast has with Sky.

The fact that pay tv channels will be a thing of the past in years to come will not impact on Sky or Virgin, who will simply offer packages of streaming services instead.

OB, your posts remind me of the sort of futurologist bollards I used to love reading when I was in primary school. All about how inthefuture, we would all be living in the sky and farting hydrogen which would be harvested to fuel silent aeroplanes.

My favourite book at one point was “Exploring the World of Robots.” Disappointingly, 40 years later I still don’t have robots called Maid Without Tears or Quasar to serve me coffee or hoover my lounge. :scratch:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1566807436

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1566807511

OLD BOY 26-08-2019 10:54

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36007566)
OB, your posts remind me of the sort of futurologist bollards I used to love reading when I was in primary school. All about how inthefuture, we would all be living in the sky and farting hydrogen which would be harvested to fuel silent aeroplanes.

My favourite book at one point was “Exploring the World of Robots.” Disappointingly, 40 years later I still don’t have robots called Maid Without Tears or Quasar to serve me coffee or hoover my lounge. :scratch:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1566807436

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1566807511

So glad to find that I have entertained you, Chris. :blush:

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36007564)
Quelle surprise one company buys another company as that has happened since the year dot...

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Contradictions are your middle name..;)

I think you are just a little confused, Den. ;)

1andrew1 29-08-2019 19:32

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FT is reporting that YouTube is moving to an advertising model, due to the competition in the market. Premium will still continue as an option.
Upcoming original TV shows will be free to watch, but its back catalogue will remain behind a paywall for contractural reasons.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ee64494-...4-3669401ba76f

OLD BOY 29-08-2019 19:52

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36007987)
FT is reporting that YouTube is moving to an advertising model, due to the competition in the market. Premium will still continue as an option.
Upcoming original TV shows will be free to watch, but its back catalogue will remain behind a paywall for contractural reasons.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ee64494-...4-3669401ba76f

I imagine a lot of streaming services will offer both options in the end.

denphone 29-08-2019 20:33

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007988)
I imagine a lot of streaming services will offer both options in the end.

Including Netflix.;)

jfman 29-08-2019 20:51

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36007987)
FT is reporting that YouTube is moving to an advertising model, due to the competition in the market. Premium will still continue as an option.
Upcoming original TV shows will be free to watch, but its back catalogue will remain behind a paywall for contractural reasons.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ee64494-...4-3669401ba76f

Interesting. The subscription streaming market alone doesn’t have space for YouTube, parent company Google owned by Alphabet...

*checks notes*

the fourth biggest company in the world.

OLD BOY 29-08-2019 21:18

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36007994)
Interesting. The subscription streaming market alone doesn’t have space for YouTube, parent company Google owned by Alphabet...

*checks notes*

the fourth biggest company in the world.

The amount and quality of the content on YouTube does not attract enough subscribers. They are asking a lot for their premium service and I am not surprised the take-up isn't there.

Disney + and other big players coming to our shores will show that there certainly is a space in the market for their subscription services, but as I said above, they will make a lot more money by also offering a lesser service with commercials. That gives them and us the best of both worlds.

jfman 29-08-2019 21:23

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007995)
The amount and quality of the content on YouTube does not attract enough subscribers. They are asking a lot for their premium service and I am not surprised the take-up isn't there.

Disney + and other big players coming to our shores will show that there certainly is a space in the market for their subscription services, but as I said above, they will make a lot more money by also offering a lesser service with commercials. That gives them and us the best of both worlds.

Big company, deep pockets, could blow Sky away for sports rights, etc etc.

OLD BOY 30-08-2019 08:51

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36007997)
Big company, deep pockets, could blow Sky away for sports rights, etc etc.

Yes, they could. If that was the only place where football fans could get their fix, of course they would get the subscribers that way.

However, the programmes available on YouTube's premium service simply don't appeal in the same way as Netflix and Prime do, and they want more than Netflix are charging for it!

Too little content, not very popular material at that.

jfman 30-08-2019 08:59

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36008016)
Yes, they could. If that was the only place where football fans could get their fix, of course they would get the subscribers that way.

However, the programmes available on YouTube's premium service simply don't appeal in the same way as Netflix and Prime do, and they want more than Netflix are charging for it!

Too little content, not very popular material at that.

The same rules apply to Alphabet as everyone else though. They could acquire content, buy production companies, other content owners/distributors?

If the fourth biggest company in the world is weary of going all in here why do the same rules not apply to Amazon or $20bn in debt Netflix?

Disney aren't protected from market forces the way you seem to believe they are.

OLD BOY 30-08-2019 09:12

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36008018)
The same rules apply to Alphabet as everyone else though. They could acquire content, buy production companies, other content owners/distributors?

If the fourth biggest company in the world is weary of going all in here why do the same rules not apply to Amazon or $20bn in debt Netflix?

Disney aren't protected from market forces the way you seem to believe they are.

Not sure what you are saying here, but surely, this is YouTube's choice.

Disney is a big company with masses of content. They are in a different league altogether with their treasure trove of scripted content. Their offering will be very popular and success is pretty well guaranteed.

denphone 30-08-2019 09:17

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36008022)
Not sure what you are saying here, but surely, this is YouTube's choice.

Disney is a big company with masses of content. They are in a different league altogether with their treasure trove of scripted content. Their offering will be very popular and success is pretty well guaranteed.

Disney does have plenty of very good content especially in their older library of content.

There is no guarantee of success but their chances are far better then most of the other streaming companies l would say.

jfman 30-08-2019 10:16

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36008023)
Disney does have plenty of very good content especially in their older library of content.

There is no guarantee of success but their chances are far better then most of the other streaming companies l would say.

Disney is a big company that makes masses of revenue in existing distribution models. Revenue that will be reduced significantly and put pressure for quick results on the DTH sales figure.

OLD BOY 30-08-2019 12:52

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36008030)
Disney is a big company that makes masses of revenue in existing distribution models. Revenue that will be reduced significantly and put pressure for quick results on the DTH sales figure.

Yes, they will lose revenues from distribution, but you forgot to add what they will gain from subscribers. I am sure they will play it by ear.

If they fail to make sufficient from subscribers, they will employ other measures, such an AVOD version of Disney +, or perhaps enabling some of their material to be aired on other platforms.

I wouldn't be writing them off just yet, jfman.:p:

jfman 30-08-2019 13:17

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36008057)
Yes, they will lose revenues from distribution, but you forgot to add what they will gain from subscribers. I am sure they will play it by ear.

If they fail to make sufficient from subscribers, they will employ other measures, such an AVOD version of Disney +, or perhaps enabling some of their material to be aired on other platforms.

I wouldn't be writing them off just yet, jfman.:p:

I didn't forget what they could gain from subscribers, I specifically mentioned it as the Direct to Home sales figure. As opposed to wholesale revenue.

OLD BOY 30-08-2019 16:20

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36008061)
I didn't forget what they could gain from subscribers, I specifically mentioned it as the Direct to Home sales figure. As opposed to wholesale revenue.

I see you did, apologies.

kandinsky 04-09-2019 11:52

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Anyone had problems with v6 box on Iplayer? Only plays audio, no video when a program is played back. Tried new cables and rebooting etc. Iplayer app on tv works ok. Virgin themselves don't seem to have a solution yet. Netflix and Prime and other streaming services are ok.

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...e/td-p/3340962

spiderplant 04-09-2019 12:34

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Originally Posted by kandinsky (Post 36008725)
Anyone had problems with v6 box on Iplayer? Only plays audio, no video when a program is played back. Tried new cables and rebooting etc. Iplayer app on tv works ok. Virgin themselves don't seem to have a solution yet. Netflix and Prime and other streaming services are ok.

Do you have a fairly old Samsung TV? If so, the only fix I know of is to swap to one of the older TiVos. (Or get a new TV, of course)

kandinsky 04-09-2019 12:45

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36008728)
Do you have a fairly old Samsung TV? If so, the only fix I know of is to swap to one of the older TiVos. (Or get a new TV, of course)

Nope its a fairly new Hisense 50". Has been working ok since I went back to Virgin in June this year. Just started happening in last couple of days.

spiderplant 04-09-2019 13:27

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Try rebooting your SuperHub. Also see whether the TV has a factory reset option.

kandinsky 04-09-2019 15:53

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The hub has been rebooted several times. It can't be the tv if other apps are streaming ok from the v6. And the link to the same problem above by others points to a problem on Virgins end. Just wanted to know if anyone had a definitive answer from Virgin. They haven't resolved it on their own forum as yet.

muppetman11 04-09-2019 16:16

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Now TV increasing day Sports passes again to £9.99.

denphone 04-09-2019 16:19

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36008740)
Now TV increasing day Sports passes again to £9.99.

So much for some saying prices would be getting cheaper.

Mad Max 04-09-2019 16:45

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36008741)
So much for some saying prices would be getting cheaper.


That's only the day passes, Den, nothing there to say that the monthly subs are increasing.

denphone 04-09-2019 16:47

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36008743)
That's only the day passes, Den, nothing there to say that the monthly subs are increasing.

You can bet your bottom dollar they will do in time.

Mad Max 04-09-2019 16:49

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36008744)
You can bet your bottom dollar they will do in time.

Just like most things then, fuel, food, gas, electric, etc etc...

spiderplant 04-09-2019 17:27

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Originally Posted by kandinsky (Post 36008739)
The hub has been rebooted several times. It can't be the tv if other apps are streaming ok from the v6. And the link to the same problem above by others points to a problem on Virgins end. Just wanted to know if anyone had a definitive answer from Virgin. They haven't resolved it on their own forum as yet.

That community forum thread contains various different faults. Each case needs treating separately.

My advice to you is to reset your TV. If that doesn't resolve it, I can suggest some more things to try.

Legendkiller2k 04-09-2019 18:45

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36008740)
Now TV increasing day Sports passes again to £9.99.

I think it's reaching the point where people will just say "no"

DVD Cinema 05-09-2019 07:53

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Originally Posted by kandinsky (Post 36008739)
The hub has been rebooted several times. It can't be the tv if other apps are streaming ok from the v6. And the link to the same problem above by others points to a problem on Virgins end. Just wanted to know if anyone had a definitive answer from Virgin. They haven't resolved it on their own forum as yet.

Have you tried switching Dolby off from the TiVo, or the tv settings?

Raider999 05-09-2019 16:01

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36008761)
I think it's reaching the point where people will just say "no"


As a sports lover I subscribe to sports anyway but I would only pay they amount for a days sport if there was something exceptional on - must be cheaper to pay a monthly sub rather than opt into NowTV even on a weekly basis

Chad 06-09-2019 08:50

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36008740)
Now TV increasing day Sports passes again to £9.99.

Just got an email from Now TV to confirm the entertainment pass is going up to £8.99 per month. Also just noticed that TV Player is now £6.99 per month.

Streaming is getting pretty expensive now.

denphone 06-09-2019 09:09

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So much from some prominent forum voices who's logic was with more streamers around in a competitive market prices would go down rather then up.

pip08456 06-09-2019 11:21

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009028)
So much from some prominent forum voices who's logic was with more streamers around in a competitive market prices would go down rather then up.

Where are they then? Have they started yet?

jfman 06-09-2019 11:36

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36009048)
Where are they then? Have they started yet?

There’s streamers in the market all raising prices despite “competition”.

denphone 06-09-2019 11:50

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36009048)
Where are they then? Have they started yet?

Its quite clear that the prices of monthly streaming subscriptions are rising and will continue to rise so more competition does not necessarily mean prices will stay competitive in the market especially when some streamers are increasingly up to their eyeballs in debt spending willy nilly on content and with that huge monetary outlay they will want to get much of that money back..

Chad 06-09-2019 12:35

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009053)
Its quite clear that the prices of monthly streaming subscriptions are rising and will continue to rise so more competition does not necessarily mean prices will stay competitive in the market especially when some streamers are increasingly up to their eyeballs in debt spending willy nilly on content and with that huge monetary outlay they will want to get much of that money back..

It's interesting that the streaming services tend to put their prices up by a pound every 2 years. An increase followed by a 24 month freeze. I don't think I've ever seen a streaming service lower it's price.

OLD BOY 06-09-2019 13:05

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009053)
Its quite clear that the prices of monthly streaming subscriptions are rising and will continue to rise so more competition does not necessarily mean prices will stay competitive in the market especially when some streamers are increasingly up to their eyeballs in debt spending willy nilly on content and with that huge monetary outlay they will want to get much of that money back..

Competition will keep a check on prices. If they rise too far, they will lose subscribers to other providers.

I doubt very much that the price of Netflix or Amazon will come down, but their ability to raise prices will be constrained by the competition. If they add new services, of course, that will impact on price, and that is what you would expect.

If you compare the quality and quantity of watchable content (excluding sport, which has yet to make the transition to streaming that scripted video streaming has), with the scheduled channels, it is not difficult to conclude that the streamers are incredible value for money. I think the issue that some are finding difficult to come to terms with is the sheer number of streamers that will be available, and they opine that they can't afford them all. This ignores the simple fact that no- one is expected to take them all. You choose which ones you want, according to your budget and your viewing preferences.

muppetman11 06-09-2019 13:25

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If I want Disney I'll only be able to purchase from Disney so not sure competition will help there.

I remember you always had a bee in your bonnet about exclusivity I fail to see how this is any different.

OLD BOY 06-09-2019 13:48

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36009072)
If I want Disney I'll only be able to purchase from Disney so not sure competition will help there.

I remember you always had a bee in your bonnet about exclusivity I fail to see how this is any different.

It's different because we all have the same freedom to subscribe to Disney + on any platform once launched. I have o doubt it will be on Sky, Virgin Media, BT and on many other platforms too such as Roku, Amazon Prime, Apple +, etc.

The beef I have is that under the current system, you choose whether to subscribe to Sky or Virgin Media or BT, for example, for good reasons. Some people are not allowed satellite dishes, some aren't cabled up, etc. So hogging all the content on one platform is not in the interests of the consumer.

However, with streaming services, these are available no matter who your provider is, via the internet. As long as you ignore Sky, that is, who are still trying to restrict who can watch their streaming service, Now TV. By rights, this should be available on all platforms.

jfman 06-09-2019 14:03

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36009072)
If I want Disney I'll only be able to purchase from Disney so not sure competition will help there.

I remember you always had a bee in your bonnet about exclusivity I fail to see how this is any different.

Well this is the thing. Economics 101 tells you that there's assumptions about supply and demand in the theory that are often ignored or misrepresented. It assumes that products are directly comparable with each other, low barriers to entry for new suppliers, etc.

That's not true in the pay TV market, of which subscription streaming services are merely an extension.

The product offering the Carling Premiership isn't comparable with the product offering the Vauxhall conference because it's the same sport in the same sense Coca Cola, Pepsi and supermarket brand colas are direct substitutes for each other.

Of course an added complexity is that the streaming services are increasing upstream demand for content - more demand pushes prices up - costs that flow down to the end user.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009083)
However, with streaming services, these are available no matter who your provider is, via the internet. As long as you ignore Sky, that is, who are still trying to restrict who can watch their streaming service, Now TV. By rights, this should be available on all platforms.

I really think that's a stretch. It's available on Apple TV, Chromecast, iOS, Android, PlayStation, Xbox, Roku and Now TV branded devices - often sold cheaper than the bundled entertainment pack

Your gripe is that Virgin don't offer it, despite Virgin having a wholesale deal with Sky for the vast majority of content on there.

RichardCoulter 07-09-2019 18:28

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36009061)
It's interesting that the streaming services tend to put their prices up by a pound every 2 years. An increase followed by a 24 month freeze. I don't think I've ever seen a streaming service lower it's price.

It's an old business ploy, start off cheap (or even free) and then when people are used to or like your product, steadily raise the price.

Another thing that might put people off streaming services (especially for live sport):

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/09/amaz...fers-more.html

OLD BOY 07-09-2019 18:35

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36009279)
It's an old business ploy, start off cheap (or even free) and then when people are used to or like your product, steadily raise the price.

Another thing that might put people off streaming services (especially for live sport):

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/09/amaz...fers-more.html

Teething problems, Richard. Just like when we went digital, there was a lot of buffering and picture freeze. A couple of years or so will sort that.

jfman 07-09-2019 18:36

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It's hardly teething problems. Amazon have been streaming for years, as have others such as the BBC. The technology is tried and tested.

denphone 07-09-2019 18:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009286)
Teething problems, Richard. Just like when we went digital, there was a lot of buffering and picture freeze. A couple of years or so will sort that.

Strange teething problems l would say as its been going on for a few years now.

OLD BOY 07-09-2019 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009290)
Strange teething problems l would say as its been going on for a few years now.

It's new technology, Den. You have to be patient.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36009287)
It's hardly teething problems. Amazon have been streaming for years, as have others such as the BBC. The technology is tried and tested.

Probably a good explanation as to why Amazon didn't make a bid for the main football Premiership streaming services last time around, eh?

denphone 07-09-2019 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009291)
It's new technology, Den. You have to be patient.

Just imagine how that new technology would have to cope with 5 million plus people as if it can't cope now with far lesser numbers all l forsee is more problems if there are more users of it.

jfman 07-09-2019 20:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009291)
It's new technology, Den. You have to be patient.

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Probably a good explanation as to why Amazon didn't make a bid for the main football Premiership streaming services last time around, eh?

If they aren't willing to make adequate investment so that the platform suitable for millions of simultaneous accesses, then yes. The reputational risk is huge for them.

What changes between now and 2022 though?

Legendkiller2k 07-09-2019 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009294)
Just imagine how that new technology would have to cope with 5 million plus people as if it can't cope now with far lesser numbers all l forsee is more problems if there are more users of it.

Tbf even sattelite, cable and terrestial channels can have glitches and down time so i wouldn't say "oh streaming won't cope"

jfman 08-09-2019 00:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36009314)
Tbf even sattelite, cable and terrestial channels can have glitches and down time so i wouldn't say "oh streaming won't cope"

They've a demand based risk, as yet unproven.

OLD BOY 09-09-2019 13:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36009298)
If they aren't willing to make adequate investment so that the platform suitable for millions of simultaneous accesses, then yes. The reputational risk is huge for them.

What changes between now and 2022 though?

New technology advances very quickly. For example, it is likely that the latency problem will be resolved by then, which is one of the key issues for the streaming companies.


https://advanced-television.com/2019...vice-provides/

jfman 09-09-2019 13:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009482)
New technology advances very quickly. For example, it is likely that the latency problem will be resolved by then, which is one of the key issues for the streaming companies.


https://advanced-television.com/2019...vice-provides/

There is a lot of technical jargon in there but no solutions.

Technology does advance but it doesn't do this by itself, or forever. People need to develop and invest in solutions. If the infrastructure doesn't support a significant number of simultaneous accesses to a live stream (or near live, I don't think anyone is genuinely streaming live) then that's going to be an interesting one to watch them solve.

OLD BOY 09-09-2019 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36009490)
There is a lot of technical jargon in there but no solutions.

Technology does advance but it doesn't do this by itself, or forever. People need to develop and invest in solutions. If the infrastructure doesn't support a significant number of simultaneous accesses to a live stream (or near live, I don't think anyone is genuinely streaming live) then that's going to be an interesting one to watch them solve.

They reckon it will be resolved next year, jfman.

jfman 09-09-2019 14:14

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That's not what it says. It says there's a plan to deploy a new technology by the end of 2020. It doesn't say whether this technology is proven in the field. Is anyone using it now, for example? Unknown. Who will be first? Unknown. When will we see real world results? Unknown.

Chris 09-09-2019 14:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009495)
They reckon it will be resolved next year, jfman.

If you will insist on trawling the web desperately looking for articles that seem to back up your fantasy predictions then you will make errors lie this.

The article you posted claims no such thing. Low latency is already achievable in the lab. There are a couple of solutions available and your article says many media companies will deploy them by the end of next year.

What they’re more coy about is precisely how low the latency can go in the wild. Note that while other technical journals say that latencies of 3 or 2 seconds are possible, half of the respondents quoted in the survey aren’t prepared to stake their reputations on achieving anything better than “less than 5 seconds”.

Believe me, if you’re trying to watch live football anywhere within earshot of someone listening to commentary on an FM radio, the latency present in even just a digital satellite broadcast can utterly ruin the experience.

The only good news about latency is that it will be around long enough that if you’re so minded, you can carry on doing the Pop Master trick in your workplace for the foreseeable future. ;)

Legendkiller2k 09-09-2019 17:39

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I often get the bbc alert on my phone around 45 seconds before the event when watching football online via nbcsports/nowtv/btsport sometimes it can be upto 2 minutes before the event.

Chris 09-09-2019 18:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36009527)
I often get the bbc alert on my phone around 45 seconds before the event when watching football online via nbcsports/nowtv/btsport sometimes it can be upto 2 minutes before the event.

Yes, it’s horrific at the moment, but the new low-latency standards that emerged last year and will be deployed over the next 18 months should make a step-change, from delays of 45 seconds or more to around 5 seconds.

The problem is, for live sports, 5 seconds is still 5 seconds too long, especially if, as you’ve outlined, you have simultaneous access to more than one source of information about an event.

I used to live next door to an Arsenal fanatic whose cheers through the party wall made it sound like he was sitting in my living room whenever he watched them score. If the two of us were both following the same live game using different technologies then even a 5 second delay would potentially be a major spoiler.

OLD BOY 09-09-2019 18:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36009496)
That's not what it says. It says there's a plan to deploy a new technology by the end of 2020. It doesn't say whether this technology is proven in the field. Is anyone using it now, for example? Unknown. Who will be first? Unknown. When will we see real world results? Unknown.

It says 2020, and because you don't know the answers to the questions you have posed doesn't mean this will not happen.

jfman 09-09-2019 18:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009537)
It says 2020, and because you don't know the answers to the questions you have posed doesn't mean this will not happen.

And in 2020 it could very well say 2021. The questions would be useful in ascertaining credibility.

There also no evidence that the issues experienced by Amazon had anything to do with latency at all.

OLD BOY 09-09-2019 19:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36009538)
And in 2020 it could very well say 2021. The questions would be useful in ascertaining credibility.

There also no evidence that the issues experienced by Amazon had anything to do with latency at all.

Latency is a big problem with live streaming and once they have tackled that, the worst of the problems faced by the streamers will be overcome. It would not be at all surprising to learn that this was a big reason why Amazon did not wish to bid for one of the bigger packages this last time around. I've said consistently that latency and broadband coverage/speeds were the main drawbacks for live streaming.

Amazon will be keen not to annoy football fans with poor reception and delayed real time action. It will be interesting to see how the coverage of those Christmas matches goes.

Legendkiller2k 09-09-2019 19:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36009533)
Yes, it’s horrific at the moment, but the new low-latency standards that emerged last year and will be deployed over the next 18 months should make a step-change, from delays of 45 seconds or more to around 5 seconds.

The problem is, for live sports, 5 seconds is still 5 seconds too long, especially if, as you’ve outlined, you have simultaneous access to more than one source of information about an event.

I used to live next door to an Arsenal fanatic whose cheers through the party wall made it sound like he was sitting in my living room whenever he watched them score. If the two of us were both following the same live game using different technologies then even a 5 second delay would potentially be a major spoiler.

Agree completely with this.

jfman 09-09-2019 20:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009542)
Latency is a big problem with live streaming and once they have tackled that, the worst of the problems faced by the streamers will be overcome. It would not be at all surprising to learn that this was a big reason why Amazon did not wish to bid for one of the bigger packages this last time around. I've said consistently that latency and broadband coverage/speeds were the main drawbacks for live streaming.

Amazon will be keen not to annoy football fans with poor reception and delayed real time action. It will be interesting to see how the coverage of those Christmas matches goes.

That’s speculative on your part. There’s no indication that had anything to do with the tennis problems.

I’ve said there’s plenty of problems with live streaming, not least making a profit on a £5bn investment, so it’ll be interesting to see how it goes. No wonder they raided the bargain bucket rather than stumped up big money.

I suspect everyone in this field will want someone else to move first and take the risk. Just a shame La Liga is damaged goods, it’d be a way to test it week in week out with two big events per year.

Horizon 09-09-2019 21:16

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Technical glitches aside, I still think Amazon are very serious about sports.

I received a letter and glossy brochure from them a few weeks ago highlighting their tennis coverage, so it's very much in Amazon's interests to resolve the glitches as they're promoting their live sports so much now. If they can't sort out the problems, then they need to give up on live tv including sports and move their tanks in another direction.

alwaysabear 09-09-2019 23:10

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Its not just Amazon apparently the NFL had problems with gamepass last night. Last year they ended up refunding some subs because of problems.

OLD BOY 10-09-2019 08:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36009503)
If you will insist on trawling the web desperately looking for articles that seem to back up your fantasy predictions then you will make errors lie this.

The article you posted claims no such thing. Low latency is already achievable in the lab. There are a couple of solutions available and your article says many media companies will deploy them by the end of next year.

What they’re more coy about is precisely how low the latency can go in the wild. Note that while other technical journals say that latencies of 3 or 2 seconds are possible, half of the respondents quoted in the survey aren’t prepared to stake their reputations on achieving anything better than “less than 5 seconds”.

Believe me, if you’re trying to watch live football anywhere within earshot of someone listening to commentary on an FM radio, the latency present in even just a digital satellite broadcast can utterly ruin the experience.

The only good news about latency is that it will be around long enough that if you’re so minded, you can carry on doing the Pop Master trick in your workplace for the foreseeable future. ;)

I was not deliberately trawling the web for this information, it popped up on one of the regular digital tv news sites I follow. What you have said isn't a million miles away from what I am saying, which is that the worst of the latency problem should be resolved next year.

Yes, 5 seconds is still too long really, but it is far more acceptable than 45 seconds!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36009548)
That’s speculative on your part. There’s no indication that had anything to do with the tennis problems.

I’ve said there’s plenty of problems with live streaming, not least making a profit on a £5bn investment, so it’ll be interesting to see how it goes. No wonder they raided the bargain bucket rather than stumped up big money.

I suspect everyone in this field will want someone else to move first and take the risk. Just a shame La Liga is damaged goods, it’d be a way to test it week in week out with two big events per year.

You asked what would change by 2022. I gave you an example and a link to back it up. Your post proves really that you are just looking for an argument, jfman.

Quelle surprise....

Media Boy UK 10-09-2019 11:19

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Media Boy Sources has told us that NowTV entertainment pack will be 2 tiers sometime in 2020 one at £8.99p/m which will be as it is now plus two new SKY channels and another at £22p/m this will be £8.99 pack plus UKTV channels, all Discovery, TCM Movies, History, Nat Geo, and 4 more unnamed services.

©copyright 2019 Media Boy 2006 - 2019. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

denphone 10-09-2019 11:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36009602)
Media Boy Sources has told us that NowTV entertainment pack will be 2 tiers sometime in 2020 one at £8.99p/m which will be as it is now plus two new SKY channels and another at £22p/m this will be £8.99 pack plus UKTV channels, all Discovery, TCM Movies, History, Nat Geo, and 4 more unnamed services.

©copyright 2019 Media Boy 2006 - 2019. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

And did these sources tell you that Now TV would be coming to Virgin MB?.

Media Boy UK 10-09-2019 11:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009603)
And did these sources tell you that Now TV would be coming to Virgin MB?.

I posted all info I got. We do not run any Do Not Post order anymore.

denphone 10-09-2019 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36009606)
I posted all info I got. We do not run any Do Not Post order anymore.

Well lets hope it does come to Virgin but the proof is in the pudding MB.

Horizon 10-09-2019 11:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36009602)
Media Boy Sources has told us that NowTV entertainment pack will be 2 tiers sometime in 2020 one at £8.99p/m which will be as it is now plus two new SKY channels and another at £22p/m this will be £8.99 pack plus UKTV channels, all Discovery, TCM Movies, History, Nat Geo, and 4 more unnamed services.

©copyright 2019 Media Boy 2006 - 2019. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

So, in effect, this is the Sky IPTV service that's been talked about for ages. I believe this is the start of Comcast changing Sky from being a satellite tv service to one which is IPTV based and a streaming service.

Thanks for info MB. This maybe a serious contender in my household to replace cable tv, but we'll see. Still need broadband and by the looks of it, VM will still be the best on price.

If I can get all the BBC and other broadcast channels on Freeview and selected pay tv channels on the new Now Tv, this maybe all that's required, especially with the swathe of streaming services that will be available by then.

---------- Post added at 11:59 ---------- Previous post was at 11:56 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36009606)
I posted all info I got. We do not run any Do Not Post order anymore.

:)

Legendkiller2k 10-09-2019 12:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009603)
And did these sources tell you that Now TV would be coming to Virgin MB?.

Why would Nowtv be on Virgin media?
VM already have the channels on their tv service with the exception of Atlantic.

denphone 10-09-2019 12:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36009627)
Why would Nowtv be on Virgin media?
VM already have the channels on their tv service with the exception of Atlantic.

l did not say it was coming to Virgin as it was MB who stated that it was coming as l wanted to know how much substantiation there was to it from his source.

Media Boy UK 10-09-2019 12:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009629)
l did not say it was coming to Virgin as it was MB who stated that it was coming as l wanted to know how much substantiation there was to it from his source.

We only post information on here due to NowTV being an Streaming Service.

Legendkiller2k 10-09-2019 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009629)
l did not say it was coming to Virgin as it was MB who stated that it was coming as l wanted to know how much substantiation there was to it from his source.

There is no mention in his post of it coming to VM, the post clearly states there will be 2 nowtv entertainment packages so i don't know where you saw it was coming to vm.

OLD BOY 10-09-2019 17:03

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A new open archive site from the BBC is to launch, which looks interesting. It would be good if this could be added to our apps.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...-archive-site/

The BBC is to make thousands of archive clips available to watch on a new website, bbc.co.uk/archive.

The broadcaster said it was making 1,700 newly published videos are being made available for viewers to watch

The BBC said that the new site will help people navigate an ever-increasing portion of the more than 10 million hours of content that currently sit in the BBC’s archive. It will be curated by the same team that currently looks after the BBC Archive social media accounts,

The launch date coincides with the 50th anniversary of Nationwide, the early evening precursor to the One Showthat featured quirky stories from around the UK between 1969 and 1983.

Peter Rippon, BBC Archive executive editor, said: “The site is the beginning of a journey into the BBC’s most cherished asset. Social history, and what it reveals about who we are, is proving especially popular, so we’ve created collections of hundreds of items that give a glimpse of what the archive contains. We are planning to open up the archive much more as the BBC prepares to mark its Centenary in 2022. This is an important step on that journey.”


cupcakes aka dd 10-09-2019 17:31

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Amazon Prime not working. Just a blank screen. Status page says something else isn’t working but not this. Done a restart but still a blank screen. Anyone else having this problem

KillerCroc1 10-09-2019 17:32

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Hello everyone hope you are all doing well ;-)
I'm just wondering if I'm the only one with this strange Amazon video app issue on the V6 when launching the app I just get a black screen with a white line nothing else on screen I have to reboot the V6 in order for the app to work and even that isn't doing anything for me at the moment any suggestions

cupcakes aka dd 10-09-2019 17:33

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Amazon Prime not working blank screen. Status page says there is a problem with some other channels. Tried a reboot still the same. Anyone else having this problem?

KillerCroc1 10-09-2019 17:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 36009642)
Amazon Prime not working. Just a blank screen. Status page says something else isn’t working but not this. Done a restart but still a blank screen. Anyone else having this problem

Good to know I'm not the only customer with this issue

denphone 10-09-2019 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 36009644)
Amazon Prime not working blank screen. Status page says there is a problem with some other channels. Tried a reboot still the same. Anyone else having this problem?

Just checked ours as ours has a blank sceen as well.

KillerCroc1 10-09-2019 17:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009647)
Just checked ours as ours has a blank sceen as well.

Hopefully it's fixed pretty fast Den thanks for checking

newapollo 10-09-2019 18:15

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I had that issue last night, but it was fixed earlier today in the Teesside area.

The community forums posted this message yesterday.
Quote:

We're aware of the issue impacting Amazon Prime and working to resolve this. The fault is raised with reference F007395655.
so it appears that only certain regions have had a fix applied, or it's intermittent

cupcakes aka dd 10-09-2019 18:46

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It’s working now. Problem highlighted on VM forum

denphone 10-09-2019 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 36009664)
It’s working now. Problem highlighted on VM forum

Fine here now as well.

KillerCroc1 10-09-2019 19:39

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App is still dead for me

cupcakes aka dd 10-09-2019 23:56

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Problem is intermittent. It works it doesn’t work

denphone 11-09-2019 05:24

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Indeed the blank screen has come back.

OLD BOY 11-09-2019 09:37

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Apple+ launches in the UK on 1 November and will be priced at £4.99 per month. It would be good if Virgin could add this new streaming service at launch!

https://advanced-television.com/2019...ember-at-4-99/

EXTRACT

Viewers can watch trailers and add Apple TV+ series and movies to Up Next on the Apple TV app, so they can be notified when the first episodes become available. At launch, most Apple TV+ series will premiere with three episodes, with one new episode to roll out each week – much like Disney+ recently announced, while full seasons of some series will be available all at once, i.e., the Netflix method.

The following Apple TV+ originals will debut on the Apple TV app at launch:

See, an epic drama starring Jason Momoa and Alfre Woodard, is set 600 years in the future after a virus has decimated humankind and rendered the remaining population blind.

The Morning Show, a cutthroat drama starring and executive produced by Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston, and starring Steve Carell, explores the world of morning news and the ego, ambition and the misguided search for power behind the people who help America wake up in the morning.

Dickinson, a darkly comedic coming-of-age story, explores the constraints of society, gender and family through the lens of rebellious young poet, Emily Dickinson.

For All Mankind, a new series from Ronald D. Moore, imagines what would have happened if the global space race never ended and the space program remained the cultural centrepiece of America’s hopes and dreams.

Snoopy in Space, a new original from Peanuts Worldwide and DHX Media, takes viewers on a journey with Snoopy as he follows his dreams to become an astronaut. Together, Snoopy, Charlie Brown and the Peanuts crew take command of the International Space Station and explore the moon and beyond.

Ghostwriter, a reinvention of the beloved original series, follows four kids who are brought together by a mysterious ghost in a neighbourhood bookstore, and must team up to release fictional characters from works of literature.

The Elephant Queen, an acclaimed documentary film and cinematic love letter to a species on the verge of extinction, follows a majestic matriarch elephant and her herd on an epic journey of life, loss and homecoming.

Oprah Winfrey joins the world’s most compelling authors in conversation as she builds a vibrant, global book club community and other projects to connect with people around the world and share meaningful ways to create positive change.

More Apple TV+ originals will be added to the Apple TV app each month, including:

Servant, a new psychological thriller from M. Night Shyamalan, follows a Philadelphia couple in mourning after an unspeakable tragedy creates a rift in their marriage and opens the door for a mysterious force to enter their home.

Truth Be Told, a new series starring Academy Award winner Octavia Spencer and Emmy Award winner Aaron Paul, explores America’s obsession with true crime podcasts and navigates urgent concerns about privacy, media and race.

Little America, inspired by the true stories featured in Epic Magazine, brings to life the funny, romantic, heartfelt, inspiring and surprising stories of immigrants in America.

The Banker, a feature film inspired by a true story, stars Anthony Mackie and Samuel L. Jackson as two African American entrepreneurs who try to circumvent the racial limitations of the 1950s and quietly provide housing loans to the African American community in Jim Crow Texas. Nia Long and Nicholas Hoult also star.

Hala, a feature film and official selection of the 2019 Sundance Film Festival and 2019 Toronto International Film Festival, follows a high school senior struggling to balance being a suburban teenager with her traditional Muslim upbringing.




denphone 11-09-2019 09:42

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36009703)
Apple+ launches in the UK on 1 November and will be priced at £4.99 per month. It would be good if Virgin could add this new streaming service at launch!

https://advanced-television.com/2019...ember-at-4-99/

You do realise that Virgin might not add it at all OB.

OLD BOY 11-09-2019 09:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009704)
You do realise that Virgin might not add it at all OB.

I do, which is why I said I hope Virgin add it. However, if they are to be recognised as a super aggregator of content, which is the aim now, streaming services such as these really must be part of the VM offering.

Apple want to get this on multiple platforms to encourage people to sign up.


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