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I am thinking of substituting my Amazon Music subscription for the YouTube Music subscription, which would give me ad-free music on the V6.
However, one question. Would I still be able to add this as an app on my mobile phone so that I could play the music in my car? Has anyone done this and what is your verdict? |
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When Sky started giving out 'free' boxes, OnDigital started doing the same, so I guess that people could then subscribe for the minimum period and then use the box for the FTA channels. ---------- Post added at 19:57 ---------- Previous post was at 19:52 ---------- Quote:
Rightly or wrongly, it's become clear that these features will only last for a fixed number of year. Not too much of a problem as there are virtually free options available eg a Now TV box. ---------- Post added at 19:58 ---------- Previous post was at 19:57 ---------- Quote:
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If so, this seems perfect for me. |
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I assume from the various industry experts, and also others including the BBC, do keep up old chap....;) |
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I got my ONdigital box off the shelf in a local tv store - they managed to get two in the day before launch.
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As far as I remember, an OnDigital box would show all the FTA terrestrial TV channels out of the box with no need to activate a subscription. They just completely failed to mention that in any of their advertising, which meant instead of getting into every home and then trying to persuade some users to pay a little extra for subscription channels, they were just going up against Sky from day one, and their only selling point was that you didn’t need a dish. In other words their marketing strategy was based on a parody of their competitors from early in the previous decade, and aimed at blimpish types who wouldn’t pay anything over and above their tv licence if their lives depended on it.
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A long time ago now - I did have to call them but I think that was to switch on the pay channels.
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The fact that pay tv channels will be a thing of the past in years to come will not impact on Sky or Virgin, who will simply offer packages of streaming services instead. |
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FT is reporting that YouTube is moving to an advertising model, due to the competition in the market. Premium will still continue as an option.
Upcoming original TV shows will be free to watch, but its back catalogue will remain behind a paywall for contractural reasons. https://www.ft.com/content/7ee64494-...4-3669401ba76f |
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*checks notes* the fourth biggest company in the world. |
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Disney + and other big players coming to our shores will show that there certainly is a space in the market for their subscription services, but as I said above, they will make a lot more money by also offering a lesser service with commercials. That gives them and us the best of both worlds. |
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However, the programmes available on YouTube's premium service simply don't appeal in the same way as Netflix and Prime do, and they want more than Netflix are charging for it! Too little content, not very popular material at that. |
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If the fourth biggest company in the world is weary of going all in here why do the same rules not apply to Amazon or $20bn in debt Netflix? Disney aren't protected from market forces the way you seem to believe they are. |
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Disney is a big company with masses of content. They are in a different league altogether with their treasure trove of scripted content. Their offering will be very popular and success is pretty well guaranteed. |
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There is no guarantee of success but their chances are far better then most of the other streaming companies l would say. |
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If they fail to make sufficient from subscribers, they will employ other measures, such an AVOD version of Disney +, or perhaps enabling some of their material to be aired on other platforms. I wouldn't be writing them off just yet, jfman.:p: |
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Anyone had problems with v6 box on Iplayer? Only plays audio, no video when a program is played back. Tried new cables and rebooting etc. Iplayer app on tv works ok. Virgin themselves don't seem to have a solution yet. Netflix and Prime and other streaming services are ok.
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Try rebooting your SuperHub. Also see whether the TV has a factory reset option.
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The hub has been rebooted several times. It can't be the tv if other apps are streaming ok from the v6. And the link to the same problem above by others points to a problem on Virgins end. Just wanted to know if anyone had a definitive answer from Virgin. They haven't resolved it on their own forum as yet.
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Now TV increasing day Sports passes again to £9.99.
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That's only the day passes, Den, nothing there to say that the monthly subs are increasing. |
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My advice to you is to reset your TV. If that doesn't resolve it, I can suggest some more things to try. |
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As a sports lover I subscribe to sports anyway but I would only pay they amount for a days sport if there was something exceptional on - must be cheaper to pay a monthly sub rather than opt into NowTV even on a weekly basis |
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Streaming is getting pretty expensive now. |
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So much from some prominent forum voices who's logic was with more streamers around in a competitive market prices would go down rather then up.
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I doubt very much that the price of Netflix or Amazon will come down, but their ability to raise prices will be constrained by the competition. If they add new services, of course, that will impact on price, and that is what you would expect. If you compare the quality and quantity of watchable content (excluding sport, which has yet to make the transition to streaming that scripted video streaming has), with the scheduled channels, it is not difficult to conclude that the streamers are incredible value for money. I think the issue that some are finding difficult to come to terms with is the sheer number of streamers that will be available, and they opine that they can't afford them all. This ignores the simple fact that no- one is expected to take them all. You choose which ones you want, according to your budget and your viewing preferences. |
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If I want Disney I'll only be able to purchase from Disney so not sure competition will help there.
I remember you always had a bee in your bonnet about exclusivity I fail to see how this is any different. |
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The beef I have is that under the current system, you choose whether to subscribe to Sky or Virgin Media or BT, for example, for good reasons. Some people are not allowed satellite dishes, some aren't cabled up, etc. So hogging all the content on one platform is not in the interests of the consumer. However, with streaming services, these are available no matter who your provider is, via the internet. As long as you ignore Sky, that is, who are still trying to restrict who can watch their streaming service, Now TV. By rights, this should be available on all platforms. |
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That's not true in the pay TV market, of which subscription streaming services are merely an extension. The product offering the Carling Premiership isn't comparable with the product offering the Vauxhall conference because it's the same sport in the same sense Coca Cola, Pepsi and supermarket brand colas are direct substitutes for each other. Of course an added complexity is that the streaming services are increasing upstream demand for content - more demand pushes prices up - costs that flow down to the end user. ---------- Post added at 14:03 ---------- Previous post was at 13:56 ---------- Quote:
Your gripe is that Virgin don't offer it, despite Virgin having a wholesale deal with Sky for the vast majority of content on there. |
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Another thing that might put people off streaming services (especially for live sport): https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/09/amaz...fers-more.html |
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It's hardly teething problems. Amazon have been streaming for years, as have others such as the BBC. The technology is tried and tested.
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What changes between now and 2022 though? |
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Technology does advance but it doesn't do this by itself, or forever. People need to develop and invest in solutions. If the infrastructure doesn't support a significant number of simultaneous accesses to a live stream (or near live, I don't think anyone is genuinely streaming live) then that's going to be an interesting one to watch them solve. |
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That's not what it says. It says there's a plan to deploy a new technology by the end of 2020. It doesn't say whether this technology is proven in the field. Is anyone using it now, for example? Unknown. Who will be first? Unknown. When will we see real world results? Unknown.
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The article you posted claims no such thing. Low latency is already achievable in the lab. There are a couple of solutions available and your article says many media companies will deploy them by the end of next year. What they’re more coy about is precisely how low the latency can go in the wild. Note that while other technical journals say that latencies of 3 or 2 seconds are possible, half of the respondents quoted in the survey aren’t prepared to stake their reputations on achieving anything better than “less than 5 seconds”. Believe me, if you’re trying to watch live football anywhere within earshot of someone listening to commentary on an FM radio, the latency present in even just a digital satellite broadcast can utterly ruin the experience. The only good news about latency is that it will be around long enough that if you’re so minded, you can carry on doing the Pop Master trick in your workplace for the foreseeable future. ;) |
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I often get the bbc alert on my phone around 45 seconds before the event when watching football online via nbcsports/nowtv/btsport sometimes it can be upto 2 minutes before the event.
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The problem is, for live sports, 5 seconds is still 5 seconds too long, especially if, as you’ve outlined, you have simultaneous access to more than one source of information about an event. I used to live next door to an Arsenal fanatic whose cheers through the party wall made it sound like he was sitting in my living room whenever he watched them score. If the two of us were both following the same live game using different technologies then even a 5 second delay would potentially be a major spoiler. |
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There also no evidence that the issues experienced by Amazon had anything to do with latency at all. |
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Amazon will be keen not to annoy football fans with poor reception and delayed real time action. It will be interesting to see how the coverage of those Christmas matches goes. |
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I’ve said there’s plenty of problems with live streaming, not least making a profit on a £5bn investment, so it’ll be interesting to see how it goes. No wonder they raided the bargain bucket rather than stumped up big money. I suspect everyone in this field will want someone else to move first and take the risk. Just a shame La Liga is damaged goods, it’d be a way to test it week in week out with two big events per year. |
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Technical glitches aside, I still think Amazon are very serious about sports.
I received a letter and glossy brochure from them a few weeks ago highlighting their tennis coverage, so it's very much in Amazon's interests to resolve the glitches as they're promoting their live sports so much now. If they can't sort out the problems, then they need to give up on live tv including sports and move their tanks in another direction. |
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Its not just Amazon apparently the NFL had problems with gamepass last night. Last year they ended up refunding some subs because of problems.
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Media Boy Sources has told us that NowTV entertainment pack will be 2 tiers sometime in 2020 one at £8.99p/m which will be as it is now plus two new SKY channels and another at £22p/m this will be £8.99 pack plus UKTV channels, all Discovery, TCM Movies, History, Nat Geo, and 4 more unnamed services.
©copyright 2019 Media Boy 2006 - 2019. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production. |
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Thanks for info MB. This maybe a serious contender in my household to replace cable tv, but we'll see. Still need broadband and by the looks of it, VM will still be the best on price. If I can get all the BBC and other broadcast channels on Freeview and selected pay tv channels on the new Now Tv, this maybe all that's required, especially with the swathe of streaming services that will be available by then. ---------- Post added at 11:59 ---------- Previous post was at 11:56 ---------- Quote:
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VM already have the channels on their tv service with the exception of Atlantic. |
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A new open archive site from the BBC is to launch, which looks interesting. It would be good if this could be added to our apps.
https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...-archive-site/ The BBC is to make thousands of archive clips available to watch on a new website, bbc.co.uk/archive. The broadcaster said it was making 1,700 newly published videos are being made available for viewers to watch The BBC said that the new site will help people navigate an ever-increasing portion of the more than 10 million hours of content that currently sit in the BBC’s archive. It will be curated by the same team that currently looks after the BBC Archive social media accounts, The launch date coincides with the 50th anniversary of Nationwide, the early evening precursor to the One Showthat featured quirky stories from around the UK between 1969 and 1983. Peter Rippon, BBC Archive executive editor, said: “The site is the beginning of a journey into the BBC’s most cherished asset. Social history, and what it reveals about who we are, is proving especially popular, so we’ve created collections of hundreds of items that give a glimpse of what the archive contains. We are planning to open up the archive much more as the BBC prepares to mark its Centenary in 2022. This is an important step on that journey.” |
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Amazon Prime not working. Just a blank screen. Status page says something else isn’t working but not this. Done a restart but still a blank screen. Anyone else having this problem
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Hello everyone hope you are all doing well ;-)
I'm just wondering if I'm the only one with this strange Amazon video app issue on the V6 when launching the app I just get a black screen with a white line nothing else on screen I have to reboot the V6 in order for the app to work and even that isn't doing anything for me at the moment any suggestions |
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Amazon Prime not working blank screen. Status page says there is a problem with some other channels. Tried a reboot still the same. Anyone else having this problem?
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I had that issue last night, but it was fixed earlier today in the Teesside area.
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It’s working now. Problem highlighted on VM forum
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App is still dead for me
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Problem is intermittent. It works it doesn’t work
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Indeed the blank screen has come back.
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Apple+ launches in the UK on 1 November and will be priced at £4.99 per month. It would be good if Virgin could add this new streaming service at launch!
https://advanced-television.com/2019...ember-at-4-99/ EXTRACT Viewers can watch trailers and add Apple TV+ series and movies to Up Next on the Apple TV app, so they can be notified when the first episodes become available. At launch, most Apple TV+ series will premiere with three episodes, with one new episode to roll out each week – much like Disney+ recently announced, while full seasons of some series will be available all at once, i.e., the Netflix method. The following Apple TV+ originals will debut on the Apple TV app at launch: See, an epic drama starring Jason Momoa and Alfre Woodard, is set 600 years in the future after a virus has decimated humankind and rendered the remaining population blind. The Morning Show, a cutthroat drama starring and executive produced by Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston, and starring Steve Carell, explores the world of morning news and the ego, ambition and the misguided search for power behind the people who help America wake up in the morning. Dickinson, a darkly comedic coming-of-age story, explores the constraints of society, gender and family through the lens of rebellious young poet, Emily Dickinson. For All Mankind, a new series from Ronald D. Moore, imagines what would have happened if the global space race never ended and the space program remained the cultural centrepiece of America’s hopes and dreams. Snoopy in Space, a new original from Peanuts Worldwide and DHX Media, takes viewers on a journey with Snoopy as he follows his dreams to become an astronaut. Together, Snoopy, Charlie Brown and the Peanuts crew take command of the International Space Station and explore the moon and beyond. Ghostwriter, a reinvention of the beloved original series, follows four kids who are brought together by a mysterious ghost in a neighbourhood bookstore, and must team up to release fictional characters from works of literature. The Elephant Queen, an acclaimed documentary film and cinematic love letter to a species on the verge of extinction, follows a majestic matriarch elephant and her herd on an epic journey of life, loss and homecoming. Oprah Winfrey joins the world’s most compelling authors in conversation as she builds a vibrant, global book club community and other projects to connect with people around the world and share meaningful ways to create positive change. More Apple TV+ originals will be added to the Apple TV app each month, including: Servant, a new psychological thriller from M. Night Shyamalan, follows a Philadelphia couple in mourning after an unspeakable tragedy creates a rift in their marriage and opens the door for a mysterious force to enter their home. Truth Be Told, a new series starring Academy Award winner Octavia Spencer and Emmy Award winner Aaron Paul, explores America’s obsession with true crime podcasts and navigates urgent concerns about privacy, media and race. Little America, inspired by the true stories featured in Epic Magazine, brings to life the funny, romantic, heartfelt, inspiring and surprising stories of immigrants in America. The Banker, a feature film inspired by a true story, stars Anthony Mackie and Samuel L. Jackson as two African American entrepreneurs who try to circumvent the racial limitations of the 1950s and quietly provide housing loans to the African American community in Jim Crow Texas. Nia Long and Nicholas Hoult also star. Hala, a feature film and official selection of the 2019 Sundance Film Festival and 2019 Toronto International Film Festival, follows a high school senior struggling to balance being a suburban teenager with her traditional Muslim upbringing. |
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